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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1364
Date: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:39 AM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: DMC Insurance? Help!
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>

2. TOBY TAB alternatives
From: Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com>

3. Re: rich fuel mixture and "clicking" noise
From: "David Teitelbaum <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

4. Re: DMC Insurance? Help!
From: "jtipton" <Jtipton_at_dml_iglou.com>

5. NOS TAB alternative [was: Re: Toby TABS]
From: Farrar Hudkins <fhudkins_at_dml_uno.edu>

6. Re: DMC Insurance? Help!
From: "Admiral Marciniak" <Admiral_mjm_at_dml_hotmail.com>

7. Spokane Parade-Need Participants
From: "nbrommer2k <nickbrom_at_dml_aol.com>" <nickbrom_at_dml_aol.com>

8. Third Brake Light
From: "checksix3 <jetjock11_at_dml_juno.com>" <jetjock11_at_dml_juno.com>

9. battery sparks and no-start
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

10. Re: DeLorean vs Ferrari 308GTS vs Corvette vs 280
From: Tony Pistachio <TheStash_at_dml_optonline.net>

11. Re: DMC Insurance? Help!
From: "Faris Asmar" <faris.asmar_at_dml_verizon.net>

12. Gullwing Magazine
From: "gullwingmagazine <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>" <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>

13. Re: TOBY TAB alternatives
From: "Harold McElraft <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>

14. DeLorean Insurance
From: lhemb_at_dml_aol.com

15. Re: DeLorean in Illinois
From: "schab932000 <schab932000_at_dml_yahoo.com>" <schab932000_at_dml_yahoo.com>

16. Re: Twin turbo alt mounts
From: "Donald Ekhoff" <ekhoff_at_dml_seagullsolutions.net>

17. Re: Re: TOBY TABs
From: "Donald Ekhoff" <ekhoff_at_dml_seagullsolutions.net>

18. Re: battery sparks and no-start
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

19. Re: battery sparks and no-start
From: "content22207 <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

20. RE: battery sparks and no-start
From: "Mike Griese" <mike.griese_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

21. Re: TOBY TABs
From: "Adam <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>

22. Defroster switch and temp gauge
From: "Darkstar" <darkstarmedia_at_dml_attbi.com>

23. re: rich fuel mixture and "clicking" noise
From: klaus.steiner_at_dml_t-online.de

24. Danish DeLorean website
From: Lasse Hi <rudedog_at_dml_get2net.dk>

25. Re: Re: rich fuel mixture and "clicking" noise
From: elvisnocita_at_dml_gmx.de





Message: 1
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:39:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: DMC Insurance? Help!

A suggestion for future posts regarding insurance. 
All such posts must include state of residence.  The
variances by state are too great to respond with
intelligent answers without knowing where the car is
located.

Dick Ryan
--- jtipton <Jtipton_at_dml_iglou.com> wrote:
> Hello all.
> 
> My 1981 DMC is proving to be a buggar to insure.
> 
> Im 29 years old. Female. No wrecks. No tickets.
> 
> My company State Auto Mutual wants $860 every six
> months for full coverage.
> Thats with it being listed as a weekend driver.
> They also want pictures of the car and a written
> appraisal.
> 
> 
> Does ANYONE have any suggestions as to who to call
> that may be less
> expensive?
> 
> Thanks In Advance
> JRT



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:30:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: TOBY TAB alternatives

James & all,
I recently learned of a bracket support for the TABs that Dave Bauerle in Radnor,
OH has made for his own cars & clients of his in the past. Since Dave does not
have a web site of his own I will try and muster up some digital shots and post
them to the photo section for all to see.
To reiterate & quote the DMC news link section regarding Bauerle Automotive . . .
 "Still waiting, Dave. Great reputation, needs a website."

Shannon Y
VIN# almost less than 4 months to go!

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:22:35 -0000
From: "James LaLonde <deloreandmcxii_at_dml_excite.com>" <deloreandmcxii_at_dml_excite.com>
Subject: Re: TOBY TABs

Who can we contact regarding the second batch of Toby Tabs? 
I only want to purchase one set for a reasonable price, but where can 
we list our interest to get a second set a'goin?

Aside from that - they are gone, right? Period. Gone the way of the 
driver-side torsion bar? Is there anyone with a set to spare?

And lastly - what are the alternatives? Replacing with a NOS TA Bolt 
every few years? Is there a lesser reproduction? Sally TABs, or 
Jeffery TABs?

-James LaLonde 004009

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:41:34 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: rich fuel mixture and "clicking" noise

If the car drives alright when warm DO NOT touch the mixture 
adjustment. It sounds like you have a problem in 1 of the control 
circuits involved in the warm-up of the car. You have to make sure the 
idle circuit is functioning and also the lambda is buzzing happily. 
Next you might have a problem with the control pressure regulater AKA 
warm-up regulater. It is on the left valve cover. Check that the vent 
hose isn't kinked or plugged up. It is the short "U" shaped hose that 
goes nowhere.
 Your car is not a "preproduction" car but it IS a very early car. The 
first production car was 500 so yours is the 114th car to be produced 
which doesn't make it any more valuable, it is just a very early 
production 81. In that regard you should check that it has had the 
recalls and updates that the early cars required.
 The clicking could be anything from a stone in a tire (or maybe even 
a nail) to a problem with the speedometer cable to a problem with a 
brake pad in one of the calipers.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Larry <lkoden_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> Hopefull Someone can help.
> 
> I have two issues.  First it would be appreciated if
> someone could tell me how to adjust the fuel mixture. 
> The car runs very rich and when you first start the
> car you can't touch the gas pedal until the car warms
> up or it will die.
> 
> Second, when I drive the car, the car makes a
> "clicking" noise that I can't locate. (click, click,
> click) The odd thing is that when I press the brake
> pedal half way down the clicking stops when I release
> the pedal it starts again.  I have had the brakes
> checked and the problem doesn't seem to be there. 
> Someone told me that it is a cable that runs from the
> front to the back of the car, in some sort of a
> channal, I have no idea.  Any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
> 
> Also, my car is vin 00614, a pre-production car with
> 5,000 miles that I am thinking of selling if anyone
> has an interest.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Larry  #614 



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:58:23 -0500
From: "jtipton" <Jtipton_at_dml_iglou.com>
Subject: Re: DMC Insurance? Help!

Im In Louisville Kentucky, for those who care. I posted that earlier in a
thread and didnt think to mention it as Im not insurance savvy and assumed
that there is a general ratecard that agents use across the board.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Ryan" <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] DMC Insurance? Help!


> A suggestion for future posts regarding insurance.
> All such posts must include state of residence.  The
> variances by state are too great to respond with
> intelligent answers without knowing where the car is
> located.
>
> Dick Ryan
> --- jtipton <Jtipton_at_dml_iglou.com> wrote:
> > Hello all.
> >
> > My 1981 DMC is proving to be a buggar to insure.
> >
> > Im 29 years old. Female. No wrecks. No tickets.
> >
> > My company State Auto Mutual wants $860 every six
> > months for full coverage.
> > Thats with it being listed as a weekend driver.
> > They also want pictures of the car and a written
> > appraisal.
> >



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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:11:17 -0600
From: Farrar Hudkins <fhudkins_at_dml_uno.edu>
Subject: NOS TAB alternative [was: Re: Toby TABS]

James,

I have seen a set of TABs on specialtauto.com which are supposed to be
better than the NOS ones. (They are certainly newer!) I can't recall at
the moment what their construction is, but they're more available than
the Toby TABs.

Enjoy your James TABs. :)

Farrar (no TABs) in New Orleans

> And lastly - what are the alternatives? Replacing with a NOS TA Bolt
> every few years? Is there a lesser reproduction? Sally TABs, or
> Jeffery TABs?
> 
> -James LaLonde 004009

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:14:32 -0500
From: "Admiral Marciniak" <Admiral_mjm_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: DMC Insurance? Help!

i have 4 points and my full coverage costs me under 500 for the full year. i 
have haggerty classic, they are in traverse city Michigan.



>--- jtipton <Jtipton_at_dml_iglou.com> wrote:
> > Hello all.
> >
> > My 1981 DMC is proving to be a buggar to insure.



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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:20:06 -0000
From: "nbrommer2k <nickbrom_at_dml_aol.com>" <nickbrom_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Spokane Parade-Need Participants

Hello Group,

This year's Spokane Lilac Parade will be on May 17th, and I need some 
folks to join myself and other members of the Pacific Northwest 
Delorean Club to show off our cars!

Right now, our only obstacle is that they only want entries 
from "Classic and Antique" cars, their classification of Classic is 
1976 and earlier. However, I will be appealing to the Parade Board to 
lift that regulation for our unique cars. Here's the catch: We need 
at LEAST 6 cars for them to even consider our entry!

If you live in the region and would like to come up for the weekend 
for the parade and other fun events (to be named later), please e-
mail me ASAP. I will be appealing to the Lilac Parade Board on the 
6th of February.

E-mail me at nickbromm(at)aol.com

One more thing: If anybody has photos of numerous Deloreans in a 
parade, e-mail them to me so they can see how cool they look in a 
parade!!

Nick

VIN 3092





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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:51:26 -0000
From: "checksix3 <jetjock11_at_dml_juno.com>" <jetjock11_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Third Brake Light

..FYI, there are some nice LED light sticks on Ebay for use as a high 
mounted brake light. With the addition of a spacer this could go 
under a louver and clear the rib. It's lightweight, adheasive 
mountable and adjustable for directing the brightest light to the 
rear. This adjsutability means it could also be mounted many other 
places like on the grill behind the louver or even inside the rear 
window. I just put one on mine at it looks great. Cheaper than the 
corvette or SUV GM ones also. Search on "36 LED Light Stick" to find 
it.




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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:17:23 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: battery sparks and no-start

hey all,

two questions.  

1.  i put my battery back in my car yesterday and as i tried to put the 
cables on it, the terminals sparked quite a bit.  the ignition was off and i 
have a courtesy light override, so i don't think there should be any draw to 
cause sparking.  any ideas?  what does this mean?

2.  after doing that, i tried to start my car and it wouldn't start.  first i 
suspected a low battery.    so i put a charger on it and let it charge 
overnight. i came back this morning and the charger was still going at about 
1/2 an amp which should be fully charged, right?  well i tried starting it 
again - same thing. 

both times i tried starting it, the starter sounded kind of sluggish, like 
the engine wasn't turning as fast as it should be, even with a confirmed 
fully charged battery.  i have been running lots of stereo wires since i 
started it last, mostly in the battery compartment and running wires thru the 
relay compartment (but not doing any splicing or anything, just fishing them 
thru).  anyway i have checked all my fuses and they are all good, and the car 
ran 100% perfect when i started it last - i haven't even been in the engine 
bay since then.  

i have 10w40 oil in the engine right now.  it has been between -5degF and 
15degF for the last two weeks - it was about 2degF last night when i tried to 
start it.  my dad says that it's probably that the oil is so cold and thick 
that it's keeping the engine from turning fast enough.  is that really 
possible?   

obviously i know my way around the car but i'm not going to do any 
diagnostics if this is a reasonable cause.  i would assume that is 
appropriate since both times i tried starting it, even with a fully charged 
battery, the car turned about 80% as fast as it usually does.  probable 
cause? i find it hard to believe but i am not an expert!

Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:45:43 -0500
From: Tony Pistachio <TheStash_at_dml_optonline.net>
Subject: Re: DeLorean vs Ferrari 308GTS vs Corvette vs 280

Thanks all for clearing that up.
I wouldn't trade my D for ANY of them!
I really love all the looks, thumbs-ups and waves I get while cruising down
the highway.
The D certainly comes in first place in that respect...
Tony Pistachio
#10781 STSSTEEL
Wappingers Falls, NY



----- Original Message -----
From: <Soma576_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [DML] DeLorean vs Ferrari 308GTS vs Corvette vs 280


> In a message dated 1/29/03 10:11:31 AM Central Standard Time,
> TheStash_at_dml_optonline.net writes:
>
>
> >
> > Seen this article for sale on ebay. Is this for real?
> > My DeLorean is pretty fast but a Ferrari?
> >
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2400968900&
> > category=10368
> >
>
> Tony,
>
> this article can be found reproduced in the DeLorean Gold Portfolio book.
>
> here are the results:
> cars: Corvette (V8, carb), Datsun 280zx turbo, DeLorean, Ferrari 308GTSi,
> Porsche 911SC.
://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>




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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:57:00 -0500
From: "Faris Asmar" <faris.asmar_at_dml_verizon.net>
Subject: Re: DMC Insurance? Help!

JRT,
Try giving on of these a shot:

http://www.lelandwest.com
http://www.condonskelly.com/
http://www.hagerty.com/
https://www.americancollectorsins.com/
http://www.grundy.com/

They provide collector/show car insurance given that the vehicle is used as
a collector or show car (also must be garage kept). There are yearly mileage
limitations though (like 2K mi. p/yr). The last time I was quoted, rates
were anywhere from $300 - $500 annually. I do not own a D yet but I began
shopping for insurance prior to getting my hands on one. Cost is of concern
to me because this would be my third car and I'm already paying some of the
highest insurance rates in the country because I live in New Jersey.

Hope this helps.

Faris



----- Original Message -----
From: "jtipton" <Jtipton_at_dml_iglou.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:31 PM
Subject: [DML] DMC Insurance? Help!


> Hello all.
>
> My 1981 DMC is proving to be a buggar to insure.
>
> Im 29 years old. Female. No wrecks. No tickets.
>



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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 02:05:54 -0000
From: "gullwingmagazine <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>" <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Gullwing Magazine

Dear Owners and Enthusiast:

Many of you have been asking when the first issue of Gullwing 
Magazine would be ready, and what the cost is.  Well, it's a 
reality!  Our first issue will start to print tomorrow and after the 
binding process is finished, shipping should be within a week.

As we have told many of you, the magazine is what we'll call a cross 
between Car & Driver and Hot Rod, providing a broad spectrum of 
information and articles.  Coverage includes everything from Concours 
to Custom and the daily driver.  Included are "how to"s for regular 
maintenance, trouble shooting, and "how to"s for the custom minded 
DeLorean owner.  As the magazine name implies, we will also take the 
occasional look at other gullwing creations.

Our own project car is used to illustrate many customizing ideas and 
will be used extensively in future issues to present other up-and-
coming products and custom creations.  The list is long so stay tuned.

We have also brought some exciting new advertisers to the DeLorean 
community.  These newbies have brought some really neat new products 
to the table that you will be interested in seeing.  Also getting in 
on the premier issue of the magazine are K&N Engineering (filters) 
and Centerforce (clutches).  

Subscriptions are available NOW!  The cost is $48 for 4 issues per 
year. ($53 Canada, $66 Foreign)

Please send check or money order to:

Gullwing Magazine
P.O. Box 991
St. Peters, MO  63376

For your convenience, PayPal is also available.  Just go to 
www.PayPal.com and direct your funds to gullwingmagazine(at)juno.com.

We are committed to delivering a product the DeLorean community will 
look forward to receiving and enjoy on a regular basis.  If you have 
any questions about subscribing or submitting articles/ads please 
contact us at gullwingmagazine(at)juno.com.

Sincerely,

Ron & Cheryl Wester
Gullwing Magazine








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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 02:10:22 -0000
From: "Harold McElraft <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Re: TOBY TAB alternatives

I purchased one of Dave's TAB Kits years ago. It is one of those 
things I always thought the original design should have included. It 
does require some drilling (no big deal) If a TAB should ever come 
lose or break it is caught by a bracket support. No major 
destruction or loss of control. It is good insurance TOBY TAB or 
regular TAB.

Harold McElraft - 3354

-- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> James & all,
> I recently learned of a bracket support for the TABs that Dave 
Bauerle in Radnor,
> OH has made for his own cars & clients of his in the past. Since 
Dave does not
> have a web site of his own I will try and muster up some digital 
shots and post
> them to the photo section for all to see.



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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:29:37 EST
From: lhemb_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: DeLorean Insurance

Harvey (5830) is insured with Hagerty Collector Car Insurance, and has been 
for the last eleven (11) years. His total premium is $338.00 per year, which 
is complete coverage ($300,000/$300,000, med-$5,000, PIP-10,000; 
comprehensive and collision with zero deductible at an agreed value of 
$19,300). You can contact them at 800-922-4050 or <A HREF="www.hagerty.com">www.hagerty.com</A>.

Brian & Harvey (5830)
Florida Panhandle


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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 03:40:52 -0000
From: "schab932000 <schab932000_at_dml_yahoo.com>" <schab932000_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: DeLorean in Illinois

Funny you should mention this car. I went to see it about 3 years 
ago when my freind, who passes by it as he walks to the train 
station, realized I was interested in Deloreans. 

It was a real shame. Nothing about it was worth the effort of 
restoring it. The owner had bought it when the Back to the Future 
movies came out. Infact this guy bought 2 Deloreans figuring he 
would see a good return on his penny when they became more 
in demand. He sold one, and let this one sit and sit...

When I saw it, he was still thinking about 13k. This guy lived in a 
real dream world! I spoke with the mechanic of the shop and he 
pointed out all the mechanical stuff wrong with it... the entire fuel 
system. Of course the interior was a mess. There was even a 
birds nest  in the engine bay. 

The epoxy on the frame was flaking off along with rust. When the 
owner came to meet me, I told him he killed this car by letting it 
sit out. I gave him some numbers which tallied up over 7 grand 
on parts alone.

It was realy sad.... I told him to sell it for parts. A week or 2 later is 
was gone, so I'm not sure if he junked it or what, but be glad you 
didn't get involved with it!

Pat
vin 5552


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, AJL521_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Does anyone in the Chicagoland area know what ever 
happened to the 82 
> DeLorean that was at a repair shop in Geneva a few years 
back.  All this talk 
> about DeLoreans that had been sitting for years reminded me 
of that one.  
> 
> In fact seeing that DeLorean back in 1995 reminded me of how 
much I wanted 
> one.  This car had sad story to tell.  The plates expired in 1988, 
and the 
> car had been towed to the shop in Oct of 94



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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:00:40 -0800
From: "Donald Ekhoff" <ekhoff_at_dml_seagullsolutions.net>
Subject: Re: Twin turbo alt mounts

Darkstar,

I have a twin turbo apart in Morgan Hill, Calif..  The alternator was
mounted where the A/C compressor was and the Compressor is relocated to
drive off the front of the right hand camshaft via an added pulley.  When I
took it off I remember the alternator install being relatively basic.  I
have not really addressed these issues yet in my  rebuild process so don't
really know much.  I do have the original installation instructions for the
conversion however.

Don   Ekhoff


----- Original Message -----
From: "Darkstar" <darkstarmedia_at_dml_attbi.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 11:38 PM
Subject: [DML] Twin turbo alt mounts


> hi,
>  does anyone have detailed pictures for the mounting of the alternator on
> twin turbo cars.  it is mounted higher up.
>
> Darkstar



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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:54:57 -0800
From: "Donald Ekhoff" <ekhoff_at_dml_seagullsolutions.net>
Subject: Re: Re: TOBY TABs

You can count on my purchasing four sets.  Contact me direct to firm this up
as required.

Don Ekhoff
ekhoff(AT)seagullsolutions.net

----- Original Message -----
From: <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 5:05 PM
Subject: [DML] Re: TOBY TABs


> James, and List - I'll use this message as a opening to let you know
> that, based on several messages and emails lamenting the end of the
> TOBY-TAB supply, 



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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 00:02:12 EST
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: battery sparks and no-start

Andy, If the starter solenoid is engaged or stuck in a position that there is 
a short you will get the spark and the current draw. But if it loosens and 
the starter drags when trying to start, even in cold weather, then it's 
replacement time. Brushes are worn and sludge has built up inside to make it 
do that.
John Hervey
http://www.specialtauto.com/



In a message dated 1/29/03 7:58:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, Soma576_at_dml_aol.com 
writes:

<< 1.  i put my battery back in my car yesterday and as i tried to put the 
 cables on it, the terminals sparked quite a bit.  the ignition was off and i 
 have a courtesy light override, so i don't think there should be any draw to 
 cause sparking.  any ideas?  what does this mean?
  >>



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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 04:54:13 -0000
From: "content22207 <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Re: battery sparks and no-start

What is age of the battery? Cold weather is EXTREMELY hard on them.
Doesn't take much to kill a marginal one. Did you try jump starting?
Remember -- if battery is DEAD dead, even 4 GA jumper cables may not
be enough.

Check that you didn't dislodge starter relay while routing through
relay compartment (rear row, second from outside).

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Soma576_at_dml_a... wrote:
> hey all,
> 
> two questions.  
> 
> 1.  i put my battery back in my car yesterday and as i tried to put the 
> cables on it, the terminals sparked quite a bit.  the ignition was
off and i 
> have a courtesy light override, so i don't think there should be any
draw to 
> cause sparking.  any ideas?  what does this mean?
> 



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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:41:12 -0600
From: "Mike Griese" <mike.griese_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: battery sparks and no-start

Have you tried a different battery or trying to jump the
car?

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com [mailto:Soma576_at_dml_aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:17 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] battery sparks and no-start


hey all,

two questions.

1.  i put my battery back in my car yesterday and as i tried to put the
cables on it, the terminals sparked quite a bit.  the ignition was off and i
have a courtesy light override, so i don't think there should be any draw to
cause sparking.  any ideas?  what does this mean?

2.  after doing that, i tried to start my car and it wouldn't start.  first
i
suspected a low battery.    so i put a charger on it and let it charge
overnight. i came back this morning and the charger was still going at about
1/2 an amp which should be fully charged, right?  well i tried starting it
again - same thing.





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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 06:28:43 -0000
From: "Adam <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: TOBY TABs

I am also willing to prepay for a set of toby tabs. I said I was 
going to buy a set last time, but didn't because I heard that you had 
to move the transmission to install them on an automatic. But it 
seems there is an easier way so I will try it. 

I also think a paypal account for this would be a good idea.

Adam Price




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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:52:15 -0800
From: "Darkstar" <darkstarmedia_at_dml_attbi.com>
Subject: Defroster switch and temp gauge



does any one have a picture of a defroster switch taken apart?  I thought i
saw somewhere instructions to rebuild it but can't find it now. anyone know
of this site?

Also, after i re installed my dash i noticed that my temp gauge doesn't
work.  it just points straight down... any ideas??

Darkstar




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Message: 23
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:10:13 +0100 (CET)
From: klaus.steiner_at_dml_t-online.de
Subject: re: rich fuel mixture and "clicking" noise

Larry, 

your first question: its a problem with the warm up regulator, probably
you need a new one.

second: check your brake pads. re-install them with copper-based
anti-seize compound 

>The car runs very rich and when you first start the
>car you can't touch the gas pedal until the car warms
>up or it will die.

>Second, when I drive the car, the car makes a
>"clicking" noise that I can't locate. (click, click,
>click) The odd thing is that when I press the brake
>pedal half way down the clicking stops when I release
>the pedal it starts again.



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Message: 24
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:51:09 +0100
From: Lasse Hi <rudedog_at_dml_get2net.dk>
Subject: Danish DeLorean website

Hi group, my name is Lasse and I'm a DeLorean addict.
Since I can't afford a DeLorean quite yet, I thought I might as well spend the waiting time on something usefull, so I'm currently planning on making a Danish DeLorean website. I know we have a couple of D's here, I even saw one for reel once, but for some reason there has newer existed a Danish fanclub or fanwebsite (or perhaps they hid it really well), and thats a shame. People usually know the car from BTTF, but often they also know too many of them darn incorrect rumors, that is spread through TV and such. I wan't to enlight my people! But I could use a bit of help from the groups - I was wondering if anyone have some photomateriel I could borrow? (I didn't want to take it from your webpages without asking first!)

Thanks in advance, Lasse Hi Denmark 


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Message: 25
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:56:07 +0100 (MET)
From: elvisnocita_at_dml_gmx.de
Subject: Re: Re: rich fuel mixture and "clicking" noise

Check the rear brake pads. We have seen/heared that on several cars,
especially
on the right side. My one isn't that bad, but my friends car does it really
bad clic click click click.....

For your cold start problem I guess the mixture is not rich enough ?!?

Elvis


> > Second, when I drive the car, the car makes a
> > "clicking" noise that I can't locate. (click, click,
> > click) The odd thing is that when I press the brake
> > pedal half way down the clicking stops when I release
> > the pedal it starts again.  I have had the brakes
> > checked and the problem doesn't seem to be there. 
> > Someone told me that it is a cable that runs from the
> > front to the back of the car, in some sort of a
> > channal, I have no idea.  Any help would be greatly
> > appreciated.

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