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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1375
Date: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:21 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Optima charger
From: Gus Schlachter <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>

2. Re: Optima charger
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>

3. Ski rack adapter on Ebay
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

4. RE: Re: light covers
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>

5. Re: Car Hauling
From: Phil Priestley <phil_at_dml_alessandros120.com>

6. Re: Car hauling
From: Bruce Duncan <bduncan_at_dml_visualmining.com>

7. RE: Pro Stereo System complete! (LONG!)
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_mchsi.com>

8. Re: Need for engine block
From: "content22207 <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

9. RE: engine block
From: darryl_at_dml_techline.com

10. Re: Engines/Odd+Even fire/Distributors
From: wingd2_at_dml_aol.com

11. Re: Engines/Odd+Even fire/Distributors
From: wingd2_at_dml_aol.com

12. New DMC's
From: "Aaron Crocco" <slider_ten_at_dml_hotmail.com>

13. Re: Re: light covers
From: kayoong_at_dml_aol.com

14. Re: BOnded title
From: kaipur_at_dml_aol.com

15. Re: Rear ended and insurance
From: Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>

16. Re: Re: Engine sources
From: DMC12Don_at_dml_aol.com

17. RE: Rear ended and insurance
From: "Darkstar" <darkstarmedia_at_dml_attbi.com>

18. Can I get some advise please -->Re: Rear ended and insurance
From: "therealdmcvegas <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

19. Re: Re: Need for engine block
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com

20. Correction Message #30866
From: "content22207 <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

21. paging Michael S.
From: "Darryl Tinnerstet" <darryl_at_dml_techline.com>

22. NO start update
From: Paul Salsbury <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>

23. Re: New DMC's
From: "therealdmcvegas <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

24. Cruise Control
From: "milo4845 <wayne_at_dml_knothole.net>" <wayne_at_dml_knothole.net>

25. Re: Pro Stereo System complete! (LONG!)
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 09:57:05 -0600
From: Gus Schlachter <gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Optima charger

I don't have an Optima battery but I do have a Battery Tender ("Plus" model).

The reason they are small and cheap is that they don't produce much output current.
They're designed to be attached to the battery all the time and keep it topped off, as
opposed to a charger that tries to charge a batterey as quickly as possible.

A charger left attached to a battery will eventually ruin it.  The Battery Tender senses
the battery charge and will only supply to current lost.  When my battery was drained to
the point of not being able to turn the motor, the Battery Tender took several days to
get it back up to a full charge.  Now I leave the Tender attached all the time when the
car is not being driven regularly, and the battery is always full.

I've been very pleased with this product.


Gus Schlachter
VIN #4695
Austin, TX


ttanaka504_at_dml_aol.com wrote:

> Dear. List:
>
>        Hello, list.
>   I am not driving my D for a long time and beginning  to worry about the
> battery in my D...so now I am looking for my new battery, red hat Optima,
> charger.
> I know that an Optima battery cannot use with any ordinary battery charger to
> recharge. It needs a special way to recharged.  Then, I found a couple of
> products they say they can do it.
>
> one, I am thinking to get, is "Battery Tender Junior".
> http://www.batterytender.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=35&products_id=31


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:01:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Optima charger

I have had two Optima batteries.  Neither of them had
ANY warning about special chargers being needed. 
Further, neither place of purchase has ever heard of
this.

I have used both a regular charger and a "trickle"
charger on an Optima with no adverse effects.

Dick Ryan

--- ttanaka504_at_dml_aol.com wrote:
> Dear. List:
> 
>        Hello, list.
>   I am not driving my D for a long time and
> beginning  to worry about the 
> battery in my D...so now I am looking for my new
> battery, red hat Optima, 
> charger.

<excessive quoted material trimmed -- moderator>


> sometimes...so I look at other one, On Board Power
> Tender, in Battery Tender. 
> 
>    Here come my questions, which one I should get.



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 10:50:11 -0600
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Ski rack adapter on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2402499301

Seeing this rare dealer option on Ebay this morning reminded me to mention
that a recent change to the Concours Judging Handbook now awards bonus
points to cars that have any of the following dealer option items:

Wide black stripe
Narrow Gray Stripe
Luggage Rack
Ski Rack Adapter
Sheepskin Seat Covers
Plush Floormats

Until a better method of determining what is an 'original' and what is a
'reproduction' comes to light, bras and car covers are not included.

This was one of the suggestions brought up by David Teitlebaum, as the
previously the presence of such items could only harm the competitor if the
items were in less than perfect condition. By offering these as 'bonus
points', competitors will be encouraged to keep and display these items.

The updated Concours Judging Manual can be downloaded here:

http://www.delorean.com/files/handbook.pdf

There are already people registered for the concours to be held at our 2003
DMC Open House Event, and new Head Judge Marty Maier has already begun the
process of seeking judges for the event, you can contact him if you are
interested in either competing or judging at "concours (at) delorean.com".

Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

James Espey
NOTE OUR NEW ADDRESS/PHONE NUMBERS
DeLorean Motor Company
15023 Eddie Drive
Humble, Texas 77396

281/441-2537 Voice
281/441-2813 Fax
800/USA-DMC1
http://www.delorean.com 




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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:10:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Re: light covers

Here's how to find the headlight covers.

After following the link that Alex posted, insert
DeLorean (from list provided) in the "vehicle" box. 
When the DeLorean page comes up you will see that
there are four mfgs. with "DeLorean specific"
products.  One of the mfgs. is Lund and they offer
headlight covers for the DeLorean in clear and smoked.

Dick Ryan


--- jwit6_at_dml_cs.com wrote:
> These are not headlight covers. They are a universal
> stencil kit to paint covers or headlights
> 
> "Alex  <af_rocks_at_dml_hotmail.com>"
> <af_rocks_at_dml_hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >While cruzin the net I found these headlight
> covers. There is no 
> >picture but they are supposed to be for a Delorean.
> Check it out. 
>
>http://www.autoworldaccessories.com/ViewPartinfo.cfm?parttype=200183
> 

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:07:27 -0800
From: Phil Priestley <phil_at_dml_alessandros120.com>
Subject: Re: Car Hauling

I bought my car off Ebay and had it shipped from southern CA to Oregon. 
I used DAS autoshipping that ebay recommended and was very pleased with 
the service. The car arrived 2 days before the ETA they had given me 
and I was able to check on its status during transit over the internet. 
It cost about $900 since they shipped the car enclosed rather than on 
an open carrier.
Phil Priestley
vin #2105
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 09:55 AM, James LaLonde 
<deloreandmcxii_at_dml_excite.com> wrote:

> I'm considering some DeLorean repairs out of state, and would like to
> know if anyone has any recommendation on a car hauler. Trustworthy
> and reasonably prices; doesn't have to be covered - but would prefer
> it.
>
> Anyone had any good experiences? Anyone to stay away from?
>
> thanks!
> James LaLonde 4009
>
>
>
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>
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 12:20:03 -0500
From: Bruce Duncan <bduncan_at_dml_visualmining.com>
Subject: Re: Car hauling

If you are on the east coast i would *highly* recommend
Positive Auto Express.  I have used them twice for
shipping my car from PJ Grady in NY to me in western MD.
http://www.positiveauto.com  You can see my D in the Job
Gallery section.




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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:00:46 -0600
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_mchsi.com>
Subject: RE: Pro Stereo System complete! (LONG!)

Nice install Andy.

I would be concerned about the EQ above the battery.

The gasses off of the battery may damage your EQ.

Perhaps one of those Gel Cell Optima Batteries would be appropriate.

Can you give us a price breakdown for the components and system total.

Where did you buy the various components.

Scott Mueller
002981
RNDOLA


-----Original Message-----
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com [mailto:Soma576_at_dml_aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:26 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Pro Stereo System complete! (LONG!)


List,

i have promised and now i deliver!
Introducing a high performance stereo system in my car that leaves the
smallest footprint possible! Pics are now up in the photo section under 'pro
stereo system'.

features:
- Alpine CD receiver
- Monitor-1 4 channel 70x4 watts RMS full range amp
- JL Audio 250/1 monoblock subwoofer amp; 250 watts RMS
- MTX 3.5" coaxial dash speakers
- Ample Audio 5.25" floor pods from Don Steger
- Boston Acoustic RM6 stacked component hybrid coaxial 6.5" speakers in the
rear
- Monitor-1 4 band shelving paragraphic equalizer with 7 volt output
- Kicker Solo-Baric S8L7 ultra high excursion 8" titanium square dual voice
coil subwoofer
Andy






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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 18:39:58 -0000
From: "content22207 <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Re: Need for engine block

See message #30811. R30 differs slightly from stock DMC, but
apparently bolted up OK to what I assume is original transmission.
Martin G's PRV man pegged at 2.65 liters. Still scoots pretty well
(once you tune correctly!)

Are R30's available from domestic source? Given rest of my car, hard
to believe original owner shipped one transatlantic.

Have had good luck cross referencing 1985 Volvo 260 -- perhaps you
could find one of those.

Re: AMC Eagles -- only mentioned in much responded post because during
quest to ID my block was suggested by 2 DML'ers as possible source.
Renault did own controlling interest in AMC at this time, but two
product lines never cross engineered (don't go popping hoods of AMC
Eagles hoping to find a suitable doner).

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Latt <stefan_latt_at_dml_y...>"
<stefan_latt_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Dooes anyone know where I can get an engine block that fits the 
> Delorean? Is it 100% identical to Renault 30? A complete engine could 
> be considered as well. 
> 
> Shipment from Europe is possible. 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Stefan




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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:18:01 -0800
From: darryl_at_dml_techline.com
Subject: RE: engine block

Stefan - I have several good DMC engine blocks and a complete engine or two.  
Contact me directly if interested.
darryl(at)techline.com



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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 20:55:04 EST
From: wingd2_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Engines/Odd+Even fire/Distributors

In a message dated 2/6/03 10:40:31 AM Central Standard Time, 
webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk writes:
> 
> To convert from Odd to even you'd need to re-fit the crank and cams before
> the dizzy. As my guy has pointed out, the crank in the even fire engies
> cannot be dropped into the DMC's block - the bearings are different (If I
> 


   Martin,
              The main bearing sizes in the Even fire 3.0 Eagle and the Odd 
fire 2.8 Delorean PRV engines are exactly the same size and spacing. Either 
crankshaft will fit either block. The problem you run into is not with the 
crankshaft bearings, but with the connecting rod bearings. Both the large end 
rod bearing and small end piston pin are different between the 2.8 and 3.0 
engines and cannot be swapped. So if you have a 2.8 crank, the 3.0 rods and 
pistons will not fit and vis-versa.

    Marty


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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 21:10:12 EST
From: wingd2_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Engines/Odd+Even fire/Distributors

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Farrar Hudkins fhudkins_at_dml_uno.edu

Contact Pacific Rim Automotive - they used to have a kit which would
convert the DeLorean's odd-firing distributor to an even-firing one.



  

    Reply from :

    Martin
      #1458
      #4426 (engine being built without lambda system, but otherwise 
identical)

    I doubt that very much. Odd or even firing is related to the crank, and
where each piston is in relation to the others - ie in an even fire, each
one will be 60 or maybe 120 degrees out from the next. This in turn affects
the valve timing and therefore the cams. To convert from Odd to even you'd 
need to re-fit the crank and cams before the dizzy. 

    Martin,

         Farrar is correct on this one. John Lane from Pacific Rim does make 
a kit to fit the Delorean distributor which converts it from an odd fire unit 
to an even fire unit. I'm using this kit right now on an engine I'm doing for 
a D owner up in Chicago. 

       Marty


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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 19:39:31 -0500
From: "Aaron Crocco" <slider_ten_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: New DMC's

Robert, vin 6585, when did they announce this???  I missed it.  Any info
online?

Aaron Crocco
NY Plate: OUTATYM

***********
You wrote:

Since DMCH has publicly announced that they
will soon be manufacturing new DMC-12's that will hit the road
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 14:18:47 EST
From: kayoong_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: light covers

There were headlight covers made in clear and dark plastic (Lexan) by the 
Lund Industries.  Do understand, that headlight covers are illegal, 
especially the dark or colored ones.

Kayo Ong
#5508
Lic 9D NY


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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:27:01 EST
From: kaipur_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: BOnded title

I recently acquired some information by going to this website,  <A HREF="www.kitcar.com/titles.html">
www.kitcar.com/titles.html</A>,  and inquired about if one were to build their 
own vehicle or even rebuild and here is the reply I got:

"Hello:

Please visit our website to read about how our service works, once 
you replicar is completed.

Since replicars do not have manufacturer assigned VINs, there are 
three locations from which the stamped number can be legally used 
for the VIN and the number must always be visible after 
completion:  

The frame, the chassis or the engine block, in this order of 
preference

Once you have received our DMV issued documents of ownership, 
you would treat the vehicle as any other purchased vehicle when 
registering it with your home state.

To obtain our free information packet to get started with our 
service, we would need your mailing address, as well as the year, 
make and model of what your car looks like so we can denote the 
accurate processing fee.  It is also a critical poiint because the 
ownership documents MUST be processed and match what anyone 
looking at the car sees <for instance, a police officer or inspection 
station>.

Sheila

US Title Service
http://www.futuretech-enterprises.com/us-auto"

On 5 Feb 2003 at 21:03, KaiPur_at_dml_aol.com wrote:

> 
> If a person were to build a car from acquired parts-like say a
> Delorean-but all those parts came from different sources, how would a
> person acquire a title for such a project to make it legal to drive?
> 




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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:55:53 -0600
From: Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>
Subject: Re: Rear ended and insurance

MIke,

I have had trouble with insurance companies before.  They responsed to 
the sweaky wheel rule.  I no longer waste time with an unresponsive 
adjuster.  After I have called them 3 or 4 times, I document the times 
and lack of response and then call the corporate office.

I ask to speak to the president of the company about a claim problem. 
 That gets their attention and they refer you on to a customer service 
agent who will look into your claim  

I had to do this last fall when some kid literally drove into may sons 
car.  This kid was on the phone not paying attention to the road and 
instead of turning left just drove into my kids car, never hitting the 
brakes.  

After the parents and adjuster started to give me a hard time,  I told 
them you kid was clearly at fault and the officer gave him a ticket to 
that extent.  I will now call your corporate office and get this handled 
expediously.  And I did.


Adjusters at insurance companies (and I do consulting work for a lot of 
them) are paid and rated on how cheap they settle claims not on whether 
they do the right thing.  

If you want your what you are do, you generally have to fight for it.

BOB




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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 22:27:58 EST
From: DMC12Don_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Engine sources

        OK. I've tried to guess and have worked in the auto repair business 
over 20 years, but I have yet to figure out what you mean by "odd fired" 
engine.  Could you explain that one for me?
       Don VIN 6860


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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:01:25 -0800
From: "Darkstar" <darkstarmedia_at_dml_attbi.com>
Subject: RE: Rear ended and insurance

my family has state farm insurance and although we have not ever had to make
a claim on the delorean, we have on other cars on the policy and they have
always handled things well.  last time there was an accident, we just had
the car towed to our normal body shop (not the cheapest guy in town but one
of the best) and state farm approved it right away and we always request use
of new factory parts, not rebuilt or used parts.
if any one has a problem getting insurance in the San Fran. bay area I'll
hook you up w/ our insurance agent.  I don't know about prices but if you
have a good driving record the rates are low.

Darkstar

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike [mailto:mquinto_at_dml_attbi.com]
Sent: February 5, 2003 8:06 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Rear ended and insurance


Hello List,
I know I promised to give my rear ended update, I was putting it off waiting
for a conclusion.
But since this Insurance topic came up again I decided to post.

After 31 days, I now have my DeLorean back from DeLorean Motor Center in
Garden Grove. And of course they did an excellent job. The previous owner
had painted the fascias some peach silver color. So DMCGG painted both
fascias back to the original gray. Everything fits better than before the
accident. Deck lid cover even pops up when you pull the handle.
Also, Dan Botkin who has been with DMCGG for 2 years now is a pleasure to
deal with. The nicest guy you ever wanted to meet. He was very helpful.
There was a DeLorean down there that just had it's motor and frame powder
coated red. And it also had Don's Stainless Steel fuel injectors hoses
installed. Who ever owns that car, Beautiful Job!

Anyway, now for the bad news. Never heard a word from AAA. I could never
reach that damn lady, or get her to call me back.

Now Superior is ducking my calls too.
DMCGG had quoted Superior to paint the front fascia in order to match the
rear. They understood this and gave the
okay.
DMCGG called me and said, the painters can't spray over the original paint
in the front. There were too many coats of paint and chips, it would have to
be stripped. The cost of stripping would be $250.00 extra. I said, fine go
ahead.
So, I called the original adjuster, his phone is also his fax #. Every time
I call him it just beeped. So I sent him a fax but he never called me back.
Then I called the Superior agent and told him what's going on. He said,
$250. isn't a big deal they'll approve it and he would have someone call the
shop.
Of course when I picked up my car Dan told me that they wouldn't cover
stripping.
 So, they won't return my calls, and they haven't sent a second check for
rent a car fees like the agent promised.
Maybe small claims and reporting them to Consumer Affairs is my only option.
I've now been rear ended twice!!

Matthew Stits, I don't know what to tell you or how this could help your
situation, but I hope it does.
Anyone had any luck with 21st Century?

Good Luck
Mike
Vin1113
OUDATYM






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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:58:07 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Can I get some advise please -->Re: Rear ended and insurance

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, kaipur_at_dml_a... wrote:
<SNIP>
> In the end, you'd be better off looking for a specialized insurance 
> company that deals with classics, historic cars, and exotics.  You 
may pay 
> more but you will more likely get the coverage you need.
<SNIP>

Just to clear everything up, insurance can easily be had for the 
DeLorean. Of course it's in the form of classic car insurance, and 
has milage restrictions. So if you only see the road on occasional 
weekends, then you've got no worries. But myself, I haven't spent the 
past 3 years bringing my car back onto the road just to have an 
insurance company tell me "No, you can't drive your car." because my 
policy has a milage restriction. Pretty much the only drawback to 
owning a daily driver...

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"




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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:26:41 EST
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Re: Re: Need for engine block

In a message dated 02/06/2003 10:18:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net writes:

<< > Dooes anyone know where I can get an engine block that fits the 
 > Delorean? Is it 100% identical to Renault 30? A complete engine could 
 > be considered as well. 
 > 
 > Shipment from Europe is possible. 
 > 
 > Regards
 > 
 > Stefan
  >>

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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 05:25:23 -0000
From: "content22207 <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Correction Message #30866

Brain skipped a groove. 1985 cross reference is a Volvo 760. 1982 is
260. I use both depending on parts house (different computer systems).

FWIW: just priced fuel injector seals around town. Cheapest source is
DMC vendors (with shipping may be equal, but better place to spend money).

Bill Robertson
#5939





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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:19:00 -0800
From: "Darryl Tinnerstet" <darryl_at_dml_techline.com>
Subject: paging Michael S.

Someone named Michael S. left me a voice mail message Thursday 2/6 about the car I have for sale, but I couldn't understand what your e-mail address was.  Please try again, or better yet send me an e-mail so I get it right this time.
Darryl T.
darryl_at_dml_techline.com


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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:13:22 +0000 (GMT)
From: Paul Salsbury <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>
Subject: NO start update

Well, I've taken everyone's advice and ideas and tried
them all, and thie is where I'm at.

No issues with the battery
all electrics are working
all earths are good
Power and switched power to the starter/solenoid

Last night I removed the starter from the car, and
tried to fire it on the workbench, and found the
problem, The solenoid will fire, and engages on the
starter, however the starter does not turn, I think
it's dead.

Now I know alot of you have said that it is rare for a
starter to fail, however it's also rare for a torsion
bar to break. I've had one so maybe I can have the
other.

Starter is now in for repair/Recon should get it back
monday.

Thanks for all your help
Paul

#6463  

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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 14:27:56 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: New DMC's

Back when DMCH was inteviewed on TV by a local CBS affiliate. Someone 
had posted the link to view it online, and Wynn did say that they 
plan on building and selling new cars. Unfortunetly, the link no 
longer works. Maybe someone here might have a copy.

But here is a link to a previous post here on the DML that backs the 
story.
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/29344

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Crocco" <slider_ten_at_dml_h...> 
wrote:
> Robert, vin 6585, when did they announce this???  I missed it.  Any 
info
> online?
> 
> Aaron Crocco
> NY Plate: OUTATYM
> 
> ***********
> You wrote:
> 
> Since DMCH has publicly announced that they
> will soon be manufacturing new DMC-12's that will hit the road
> **************




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Message: 24
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 04:16:59 -0000
From: "milo4845 <wayne_at_dml_knothole.net>" <wayne_at_dml_knothole.net>
Subject: Cruise Control

I have a 1983 5 Speed. I want to install a Cruise Control. Any 
suggestions? 




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Message: 25
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:56:34 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Pro Stereo System complete! (LONG!)

In a message dated 2/6/03 9:16:50 PM Central Standard Time, 
scott.a.mueller_at_dml_mchsi.com writes:


> Nice install Andy.
> 
> I would be concerned about the EQ above the battery.
> 
> The gasses off of the battery may damage your EQ.
> 
> Perhaps one of those Gel Cell Optima Batteries would be appropriate.
> 
> Can you give us a price breakdown for the components and system total.
> 
> Where did you buy the various components.
> 
> Scott Mueller
> 002981
> RNDOLA

Scott,

i am planning on getting an optima battery eventually, but no one had ever 
mentioned anything about the battery damaging the EQ?  probably because most 
cars that they install on have the battery up front!  i will do some legwork 
and determine if it will be a problem down the road. 

Price/location breakdown:
Alpine CD Deck - purchased locally about 2 years ago, i think it was about 
$300.
Ample Audio 5.25"'s in custom pods - purchased from DeLorean Motor Center, 
$200/pair.
Front Dash speakers - previous owner installed. <$80
Boston Acoustic RM6 6.5" - http://www.tmselectronics.com $185/pair.
Monitor-1 4.1 4x70watt RMS full range power amp - http://www.ampman.com $259
Monitor-1 MEQ-1 4 band paragraphic EQ - ampman.com $99
JL Audio 250/1 monoblock sub amp - http://www.woofersetc.com $210
Kicker S8L7 solo-baric DVC 4ohm sub - Site-on-Sound, Fargo, ND $220 special 
price.
Distribution Blocks by phoenix gold and fuse blocks - Northwest Audio, Fargo, 
ND, approx. $60
All power wiring, RCA's, speaker wire, etc was replaced by myself at a cost 
of about $250 total. mostly monster cable (those RCA's are pricey) or 
Stinger.
Total Labor on the install including carpet, wood, etc was $525 (Site On 
Sound, 14 hours of labor)
Real-Time Analysis and system setup - $125

grand total:
Labor $650
Parts ~$1863
Misc (shipping, grommets, etc) ~$100
Grand Total (Approx) = $2600

i think i need to install an alarm system next.

Andy

Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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