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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1449
Date: Friday, April 04, 2003 3:48 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Wiring gremlins
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>

2. DeLorean Lawyer News Story
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>

3. Re: Spring Cleaning
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>

4. Re: AC Decal Question
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com

5. Thoughts on BTTF Conversions???
From: "Gary Weaver II" <gw2tulsa_at_dml_cox.net>

6. Re: Gary's fine new ride (#10680)
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

7. AW: Re: 1 BAR = 14.7 PSI
From: "Elvis Nocita" <elvisnocita_at_dml_gmx.de>

8. Re: Spring Cleaning
From: François Laplante <laplanca_at_dml_videotron.ca>

9. Re: Wiring gremlins
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>

10. DeLorean/LMC Snow Groomer for sale
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com

11. Original Collins Prototype Found
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

12. "Eurofest" Nashville
From: Travis Graham <tgraham_at_dml_noroads.com>

13. The archives are back now
From: "media1524" <brentlun_at_dml_netrax.net>

14. Delorean
From: "Mike Miller" <msmiller9732_at_dml_adelphia.net>

15. Door Lock Problem
From: lhemb_at_dml_aol.com

16. Fire in the engineroom or- 20 knots and no smoke
From: Richard Acuti <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>

17. Re: DeLorean/LMC Snow Groomer for sale
From: "Henry" <henry_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>

18. Re: Thoughts on BTTF Conversions???
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>

19. RE: Re: 1 BAR = 14.7 PSI
From: "IN2TIME" <Gary_at_dml_IN2TIME.com>

20. Re: Thoughts on BTTF Conversions???
From: "d_rex_2002" <rich_at_dml_outernet-tech.net>

21. Re: Delorean
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

22. Re: Door Lock Problem
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

23. Delorean Midatlantic Spring Social
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

24. Re: DeLorean Lawyer News Story
From: tonilfhs98_at_dml_aol.com

25. Re: Delorean
From: "dmcmike2002" <billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com>





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 22:29:15 -0000
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Re: Wiring gremlins

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Phil Priestley <phil_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> The horns which are new sound like someone stepping on a duck.  > 


I have never believed the OEM horns had a strong sound. Even 
connecting them directly to the battery, the sound seems weak. The 
wiring to the horns is OK but the switch itself is suspect. In order 
to get full power to the horns I had to install a new supply wire 
activated by a relay that was in-turn activated by the horn switch. 
I was easy to do but the sound was still not strong. I had to step 
up to some Bosch air-horns. That did it.

Harold McElraft - 3354




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 18:53:26 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>
Subject: DeLorean Lawyer News Story

Thanks to Dan McGauley for this input..

Dave Swingle

A lawyer who shot and killed a close friend and then killed himself 
Wednesday night in Redondo Beach was identified as Gerald V. Scotti, 
a Los Angeles criminal defense attorney and former federal drug agent 
who, two decades ago, helped win acquittal of millionaire John 
DeLorean of drug charges. 

The complete article can be viewed at: 
http://www.latimes.com/la-me-redondo28mar28,0,1230989.story 

 





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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 19:27:58 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>
Subject: Re: Spring Cleaning

Go for it --- no "rules" needed, Just a few suggestions:

Post what you have, your location, and conditions of sale. (Price? 
Will ship/must pick up? Shipping $$ included?)

Please try and reply to posts off-line.

BIG HINT - put your email address in the form you(AT)somewhere.com so 
that the people who read it on the web can see your address. 

Dave Swingle

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> 
> Although the DMCNews web site has a place to list
> parts for sale, I think the idea of a Spring sale is a
> great one.  Like justa bout everyone out there, I
> ,too, have a few parts that are taking up space in the
> garage and would love to see them used by a fellow
> DeLorean owner.  
> 
> An annual "garage sale" event would be great (my wife
> dictated this last line!).





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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:15:04 EST
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Re: AC Decal Question

In a message dated 04/03/2003 1:26:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
gw2tulsa_at_dml_cox.net writes:

<< Are there two styles of AC Decal? >>

The early 1981 DeLorean's have a different decal. The decal was switched 
sometime after VIN 2000.

Best Wishes,
Mike 



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 19:46:17 -0000
From: "Gary Weaver II" <gw2tulsa_at_dml_cox.net>
Subject: Thoughts on BTTF Conversions???

Goodday from the middle of Tornado Alley :)

As I mentioned earlier, I bought a Delorean last week and am 
enjoying the heck out of it. 

Amidst all my technical questions, I thought I would throw this one 
out to you. I'd greatly value your thoughts/comments...

I purchased this car to convert to a Back to the Future Time 
Machine. Funnily enough when I tell someone about it - they look at 
me like I'm insane and say "you're gonna tear that up?" or "you'll 
kil the value of it"...

Does anyone agree with that assesment?

For what its worth, here is a little more about me and just WHY I'm 
taking on this project...

By day I'm an Architectural Graphics Coordinator for and 
Architectural and Engineering firm here in downtown Tulsa. Away from 
work I'm a movie prop builder and conceptual designer. My most 
current project can be seen here:

http://www.astromech.net/gallery/builders/GaryWeaverII/

This was a full scale Radio Controlled R2-D2 replica from Star Wars. 
These units were completely aluminum and custom fabricated with Full 
Radio Control capabilities. I loved doing it, but once I was 
finished I needed a bigger challenge. 

Since I've always loved the Delorean and Back to the Future, I felt 
this would be a perfect next project. This is not going to be a case 
of some poorly built, cheaply made, inaccurate replica. So far I've 
talked with people involved in the production and have had contact 
with some of the formost collectors in the BTTF genre. This will be 
one of the best "fan-built" replicars out there.

I think my question is - is it the right thing to do with a mid-
level quality Delorean? 

-Gary Weaver II






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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 20:45:26 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Gary's fine new ride (#10680)

IMHO the majority of the problems we are having with the Delorean come 
from 2 causes. One is "old age". Many of the parts are just old and 
should be replaced. A perfect example is the cooling system. These 
parts on many of the cars are still origional! The other major problem 
is that in many cases the cars have been worked on by mechanics who 
either "cheaped out" and didn't use the proper parts or just didn't 
know what they were doing and didn't set the car up right. The first 
problem leads to the second. Only a dedicated owner who takes the car 
to a COMPETANT" mechanic will eventually get things right. Of course 
that means spending some money and undoing all of the previous bad 
work. The owner that is handy can do much of it himself with help from 
this list. If you want a nice running, RELIABLE, car that is over 20 
years old it takes either a lot of work or a lot of money, sometimes 
both, there are no shortcuts. For the "newbies" there is a whole 
archive of information to pick through, most of your questions will be 
answered if you just look. Start on DMCNEWS.COM, there is a 
treasure trove of info in the technical section. The other great 
source of info is a Workshop Manual, every owner should have it. Even 
if you can't decipher it your mechanic can. Yes, a car is usually 
heathier if exercised occasionaly but if it is unrealible and always 
strands you then you will drive it less and less because you don't 
trust it so it gets even worse.

David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 23:06:42 +0200
From: "Elvis Nocita" <elvisnocita_at_dml_gmx.de>
Subject: AW: Re: 1 BAR = 14.7 PSI

Guys,
I was offline a few days, therefore this late response.

The refillable struts have almost the same size as the original ones.
They can not be recharged with an ordinary air compressor like most
people have in their garage. It needs something with a little more
kick. A pump for air pressurized guns ! (I know, you american guys only
play with real guns, but in some countries this is not allowed...)

A regular compressor only makes about 8-12 Bar, we are talking about 170Bar
!
The piston has an area of about one square centimeter

p=f/a -> f=p*a = 170bar * 10E-4 m² = 170 * 10E5 N/m² * 10E-4 m²
= 170 * 10N = 1700N
(f=p*a -> force = pressure * area -> simple, isn't it ?)
Now this is 1700N instead of 1200N of the original Struts. Why ?
Because I only assumed that the effective area is 1 square cm. I haven't
measured it ! If it's a little bit less you will have your 1200N.

A temperature compensation would be a great idea but hard to realize.

This link shows how the struts look inside. Sorry, in german !
http://www.stabilus.de/frameset.asp?sprache=deutsch&headline=Gasfedern&berei
ch=produkte&subsite=lom.asp&mfxmenustart=0

Elvis



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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 16:02:29 -0500
From: François Laplante <laplanca_at_dml_videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: Spring Cleaning

Excellent suggestion that "once a year" spring cleaning!!!

François Laplante
#17145





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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 22:11:05 -0000
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Re: Wiring gremlins

Phil
Electrical stuff is always had to diagnose without being able to 
touch it, see it, etc. However, I think your problem is the fan fail 
bypass. Since the bypass does nothing more than route the power from 
a single wire to each fan wire, it should be straight forward to 
test the circuits and determine if it is the bypass apparatus or the 
circuit itself. If it is the apparatus, make a new one, if it is the 
circuit, you will have to find the weak connection. I believe the 
only connection from the relay to the fan motor plug is in the 
washer bottle compartment. From you note it sounds like you are on 
the right track to isolating the problem. Let us know what you find.

Harold McElraft - 3354






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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 19:51:33 EST
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: DeLorean/LMC Snow Groomer for sale

Hi,
   For those of you that have not seen what the LMC snow groomer looks like. 
Follow the link below(it is a small model LMC).  I'm not sure if LMC is still 
around but I see at least one older model at almost every ski resort I go to. 
 I guess they are built DMC tough...

<A HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2409257780&category=6726">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2409257780&
category=6726</A>


Peace,
Dave


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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 19:36:11 -0600
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Original Collins Prototype Found

Sascha Skucek passed through Houston today with his pilot car (#20) and
allowed us to get a look at the many differences between his car and the
production car. Quite interesting and similar in many resepcts to the
pre-production car offered at Barrett-Jackson in 1998:

http://www.dmcnews.com/Resource/Prototype/Prototype.html

While he was here, we rummaged through documents that were passed on to us
by Leif Montin, stuff we acquired from Kapac and my own personal collection
of documents. We think we've put together the pieces of the puzzle on the
prototypes now.

(NOTE: The text below refers only to the prototypes built under the
direction of Bill Collins and NOT the pre-production or "pilot" cars like
the ones from the auction above and Sascha's car. He's compiling as much
data as he can on those cars and will publish his findings separately at a
later date.)

According to Bill Collins, there were two prototypes made under his
direction (along with the wooden styling mockup prepared by Giugiaro) before
the project moved to Lotus.

It looks like all of these are now accounted for...the wooden mockup is in
the Transport Museum in near Belfast, and Bill Collins says the second of
the two prototypes he made was shipped off to Lotus in 1978 after hot
weather testing in Phoenix. This car was still at Lotus as recently as 1996,
but all reports now indicate that this car was destroyed by Lotus shortly
thereafter. I personally took a trip to Lotus (at their invitation) last
November and spoke with several who were involved in the original DMC
project (now senior Lotus staffers), and all agreed that the car was
destroyed years ago.

Which leaves just the original Collins prototype, identifiable by the
Citroen 4 cylinder engine. This car was sold at an auction by trustee in
1984 and has remained with the same owner all this time. The car has never
been driven since that time, and remains in storage today. I'm already
working with the owner to secure a time to photograph the car and write an
article on what is now believed to be the first running prototype built and
the only one to now exist. Stay tuned...

James Espey
DMC (Texas)




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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 23:29:15 -0600
From: Travis Graham <tgraham_at_dml_noroads.com>
Subject: "Eurofest" Nashville

Hello everyone,

If you're looking for something to do in May and are going to be near 
Nashville, TN, there is a car event in the area catering to European 
cars scheduled for May 23-25, 2003.  The event is located in Franklin, 
TN (about 15 miles south of Nashville).  I haven't made a final 
decision on going or not, but if there are other De Lorean owners 
interested in going, I think that would sway me towards going.

You can learn more about it here: http://www.eurofestnashville.com/

I did a brief search of my emails and I don't think this has been 
mentioned on the DML, but unfortunately I've become one of those 
infamous "DML lurkers" and have fallen terribly behind in my list mail. 
  My apologies if this has already been discussed!

Happy motoring,
Travis Graham
#6344




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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 14:58:32 -0000
From: "media1524" <brentlun_at_dml_netrax.net>
Subject: The archives are back now

Hey Group,

That was really strange.  The archives are back.  I have no idea what 
just happened.  Moderator, do you have any ideas what happened?

Brent Lundgren
83 VIN #17006
81 VIN #03049




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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 07:08:30 -0500
From: "Mike Miller" <msmiller9732_at_dml_adelphia.net>
Subject: Delorean

here is my problem, when my fuel is about at 1/2 a tank the cars starts to sputter a little bit. when I go the gas station and fuel up, and top it off, it runs great, and does not stall out. The fuel pump has recently been replaced, and now my next minor trouble shooting problem will be to change the fuel filter. I was looking through the Delorean service manual from Delorean One, and I learned how complex the fuel system is with constantly being under pressure. so I figured on checking all the hoses and making sure they are tight and secure. Do you have any suggestions, or referrals for me?

Thank you

Michael Miller


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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 08:47:01 EST
From: lhemb_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Door Lock Problem

I am having a door lock problem that I need some help with. When I unlock the 
door with the key about half the time the drivers door does not unlock. The 
rocker switch only moves about half way. The passenger door unlocks fine and 
I have to reach through the car and jiggle the driver side rocker switch and 
can eventually get it unlocked. When I lock and unlock the car with the 
rocker switches from the inside, both work smoothly every time (I've done it 
hundreds of times trying to figure it out). I am using a Lock Zilla. Thanks 
for any help.

Brian McCabe & Harvey (5830)
Florida Panhandle


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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 18:33:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Richard Acuti <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Fire in the engineroom or- 20 knots and no smoke

During my DeLorean educational process I have noticed an alarming number of pictures of torched D's on various websites on the Internet.

I'm so creeped out by this, that I've mounted an extinguisher behind my seat. What was the most common cause of engine fires? Of Delorean fires in general?

Uh...I feel that I must admit that one reason I'm asking this is because I was idling mine after some repairs tonight. It was dark, and I noticed a tiny, tiny glow on the distributor cap. I tweaked out and shut it down right away. When I shined a light in there, I noticed one of the towers (the main feed from the coil I think) was half-slagged, nearly on fire. Now I get to rip off the intake and replace it. It IS the original piece...21 years old...is that why it burned up, or is there another reason?

Help.

Rich A.
#5335

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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 11:12:45 -0500
From: "Henry" <henry_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: DeLorean/LMC Snow Groomer for sale


This statement in the auction really got me curious:

 "Originally Thiokol Chemical Corporation, it changed to DMC (DeLorean Motor Company) around 1983 or so. When DeLorean had troubles, it changed to LMC around 1984 (Logan Manufacturing Company). Here's the details on this one..... "

Then I found this article explaining it all.  Very interesting - I did not know this!

http://www.snowjournal.com/article268.html

-Hank  #1619




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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 08:28:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Thoughts on BTTF Conversions???



What a can of worms this request has/will open. 
Although I am not a big fan of BTTF cars, it is YOUR
car you are talking about.  Do with it what you
want!!!  

Please do a truly competent job and post pictures to
keep all of us informed as to your progress.

Dick Ryan
VIN16867



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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 08:40:57 -0800
From: "IN2TIME" <Gary_at_dml_IN2TIME.com>
Subject: RE: Re: 1 BAR = 14.7 PSI

   > This link shows how the struts look inside. 
   > Sorry, in german !

Here is the same page in English.

http://www.stabilus.de/frameset.asp?sprache=englisch&headline=Gasfedern&bere
ich=produkte&subsite=lom.asp&mfxmenustart=0

Gary
www.PNDC.Org
www.IN2TIME.com 




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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 16:41:55 -0000
From: "d_rex_2002" <rich_at_dml_outernet-tech.net>
Subject: Re: Thoughts on BTTF Conversions???

Gary,

Since you have purchased the car, you can do with it whatever you
wish, but since you are asking for opinions and/or assessments to
determine if it is the right thing to do with a mid-level Delorean
I will offer my perspective.  NO, I would recommend against it, if
it is a permanent install.  If you make the install non-evasive
(removable and not screwed into the SS panels), then GO FOR IT.

I have seen many BTTF conversions and from my perspective, one of
the best "fan built" examples has to be Bob Brandy's resurrection
of a salvage yard Delorean into the 97 Delorean Time Machine.
More details at: http://www.entermyworld.com/wdmorg/97pics.html
If you want a BTTF conversion that nearly the entire Delorean will
ralley behind, start with a salvage car for your BTTF conversion.
Even die-hard purists who scold anyone for modifying a Delorean
appreciate what Bob has done with a much less than perfect car.

Nearly all of my custom Delorean projects have been built from
far less than perfect cars and made into unique, custom Deloreans.
The one exception is my High HP Canadian D which is in great shape
but had already had the engine swap done prior to my purchase.
I even considered building a BTTF conversion from a salvage car,
but decided against it when I had the opportunity to buy a full
size fiberglass BTTF prop car (that was in near salvage condition)
This is what I am starting with for my BTTF conversion vehicle.

More details and photos at: www.DeloreanMotorCars.com

If you do decide to build a BTTF conversion from a "good" Delorean,
make sure to "do it right".  There are some "good" reasons to use
a "good" Delorean for BTTF conversion, but I think the best reason
is if you plan to drive it on a regular basis or on long trips.
But if you must use a "good" Delorean for BTTF conversion, please
consider replacing good body panels with less than perfect ones.
Most people that will admire the car could care less if you have
repaired SS panels vs. perfect SS panels, with a perfect fit.

Either way, good luck with your BTTF conversion quest.

Later,
Rich W.


> snip <
>
> Funnily enough when I tell someone about it - they look at 
> me like I'm insane and say "you're gonna tear that up?" or "you'll 
> kil the value of it"...
> 
> Does anyone agree with that assesment?
> 
> -Gary Weaver II




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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 16:38:03 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Delorean

Changing the fuel filter is not a bad idea but I don't think it will 
correct the problem. I think the problem is in the fuel tank. Either 
the pickup hose is collapsing, has a split in it, or is kinked. You 
might also not have the baffle positioned correctly or parts might be 
missing or broken. Remove the fuel pump and drain the tank. Wipe it 
out and remove the baffle (hint, you have to disassemble it inside so 
you can fold it to remove). Inspect all the parts, clean and replace. 
If the pickup hose (the formed, bent one) is soft or has any splits or 
holes it needs to be replaced. You should get the correct formed one 
and only the "D" venders sell it (don't get shocked at the price, you 
were warned!). You might also need new boots for the fuel pump, don't 
cheap out here this is an area of concern, you don't want any fuel 
leaks or vapors escaping. When reinstalling the fuel pump great care 
must be taken so as not to turn the pump when installing into the 
boot, kinking the pickup hose. If you have to, place a mark with a 
magic marker, on the pump so after you put it in you can see at a 
glance if it is correctly oriented. Make sure to get the wires from 
the pump into the 2 grooves on the boot so the top boot fits 
correctly.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Mike Miller" <msmiller9732_at_dml_a...> 
wrote:
> here is my problem, when my fuel is about at 1/2 a tank the cars 
starts to sputter a little bit. when I go the gas station and fuel up, 
and top it off, it runs great,

> Michael Miller



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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 16:44:51 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Door Lock Problem

You need to adjust and lubricate the linkage in the door. In many 
cases this happens because the lock was forced when the door wasn't 
properly closed. You might have to start by making sure that both 
front and rear latches are engaging into the second locking position. 
If 1 of the latches is in the first and the other is in the second the 
door isn't supposed to lock. Adjust the anchor pins to get both 
latches in the 2nd position simultaniously and see if that solves the 
problem. You shouldn't have to slam the door to get it closed right. 
Lockzilla can't fix this, in fact if you have a door out of adjustment 
 it is doing exactly what it should!
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, lhemb_at_dml_a... wrote:
> I am having a door lock problem that I need some help with.
> Brian McCabe & Harvey (5830)
> Florida Panhandle



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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 16:54:15 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Delorean Midatlantic Spring Social

Just a reminder that tomorrow is the last day that the hotel will hold 
rooms aside for our group. After 4/5/03 the bank of rooms held aside 
will go back to the general inventory and may not be available and the 
group rate will not be given. As of now there are plenty of rooms. For 
those of you not staying over this event looks like it will have a 
large turnout for both days, so if you will be coming for only 1 day 
you might reconsider. Saturday will be mainly a "tech" day and Sunday 
will be a touring and shopping day. Friday evening will also be a 
small gathering for the "early birds" from out if the area and some 
nearby local owners for an informal dinner. For further info go to 
deloreanmidatlantic.com Rob Grady will be coming so if you need any 
small parts, if you order them now they could bring them to the show 
for you and save you shipping and sales tax.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757




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Message: 24
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 12:12:39 EST
From: tonilfhs98_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: DeLorean Lawyer News Story

Is he the same attorney that drove DeLorean into bankruptcy recently a year 
or two ago?
Bill K


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Message: 25
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 17:18:19 -0000
From: "dmcmike2002" <billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Re: Delorean

I would start with the fuel pick up hose inside your tank. chances 
are it is torn or has a hole in and when your gas level reache sit 
your problem begins...About $50 from houston if this is your problem.

Mike C
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