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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1466
Date: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:53 AM

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There are 22 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. RE: Wheel Repair.
From: "K. Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>

2. Re: gas flap hood
From: "James LaLonde" <deloreandmcxii_at_dml_excite.com>

3. Re: Gas Flap.
From: Samuel <samuel_yahoo_at_dml_lightspeed.cx>

4. Re: Need Tire Recommendations
From: "Darin Wolf" <son_darin_at_dml_hotmail.com>

5. Re: gas flap hood
From: "John Elgersma" <delorean_at_dml_telus.net>

6. Re: Wheel Repair.
From: elvisnocita_at_dml_gmx.de

7. Gas flap to Be or not to Be
From: "John Elgersma" <delorean_at_dml_telus.net>

8. RE: Re: Need Tire Recommendations
From: "K. Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>

9. Re: Gas flap to Be or not to Be
From: <gw2tulsa_at_dml_cox.net>

10. Passing emissions without Lamda
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

11. Re: Need Tire Recommendations
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>

12. Re: Passing emissions without Lamda
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

13. Re: Re: gas flap hood
From: Steve Stankiewicz <protodelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com>

14. Re: Re: Re: gas flap hood
From: <gw2tulsa_at_dml_cox.net>

15. Parts on e-Bay - Rear Light Lenses - (with reflector)
From: "jamesrguk" <James_rg_at_dml_hotmail.com>

16. Re: Re: Need Tire Recommendations
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com

17. Re: Re: gas flap hood
From: "Brent W. Lundgren" <brentlun_at_dml_netrax.net>

18. A few brake questions
From: "L. Sandel" <ls_at_dml_chickencow.csv.cmich.edu>

19. Re: Re: Need Tire Recommendations
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>

20. Re: Re: gas flap hood
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>

21. Wanted: Exhaust manifolds
From: Richard Acuti <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>

22. Re: Need Tire Recommendations
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 22:29:11 -0500
From: "K. Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: RE: Wheel Repair.

Huh, I just noticed John at specialtauto has wheel refinishing much cheaper.

-----Original Message-----
From: Donald Ekhoff [mailto:ekhoff_at_dml_seagullsolutions.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:00 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] Wheel Repair.


Yes, they are cast aluminum.  They do vary with regards to finish and
porosity.  I have had DeLorean rims both polished and chromed.  I prefer the
chrome for it's ease in keeping them looking great.  In all cases I had the
rim, hub and spokes polished and the inner surfaced painted black for
contrast and accent.  The best deal I found was an outfit in Los Angeles,
Calif. that did the strip/polish/chrome and paint for $460.00 complete.  If
you are interested I can dig out the information or if you would like I will
sell you my rims, complete with tires.  Contact me off-line if interested.
The polished rims are in Idaho and the chrome rims are in Calif.

Don Ekhoff
#6543


----- Original Message -----
From: "funkstuf" <funkstuf_at_dml_hotmail.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:17 PM
Subject: [DML] Wheel Repair.


> I am hoping to restore the wheels on my Delorean.
> Are they Aluminum?  It seems like something I should be able to do
> myself. I spoke with a guy and he said it would cost about $600.00
> for him to do whatever to refinish them.
> Any knowledge or ideas on this subject?
> Thanks
> Dale Funk
> #4984
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 03:34:45 -0000
From: "James LaLonde" <deloreandmcxii_at_dml_excite.com>
Subject: Re: gas flap hood

Vandalism wasn't a concern with the gas flapped hood, all the ones 
that had gas flaps had a locking gas cap (used the ignition key). The 
stamping process used in making the flap cut out broke too many 
hoods... it was cheaper to do away with the flaps in order to make 
the simpler hood... this was the same reason they eventually nixxed 
the styling lines too.

In my opinion the lines and flap were both better than without. But 
actually I'm starting to like having to open the hood to fuel up... 
garner even more attention :P (I used to have a gas flapped car... I 
no longer do)

james 04009




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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 00:35:50 -0400
From: Samuel <samuel_yahoo_at_dml_lightspeed.cx>
Subject: Re: Gas Flap.

I dug this up about the gas flap.

http://www.delorean-owners.org/legend/diff.html

Basically, the gas flap was removed to cut cost. There was another page 
I had come across (cant find it) saying that part of the issue was alot 
of rejects on the hood, it was thought to be the gas flap but found out 
later it was the lines in the hood. Of course I can not confirm this.

Samuel

Donald Ekhoff wrote:

>I heard, back when, that there was a concern about vandalism (sugar in the
>gas tank?).  I suspect it could have been a cost savings/ production
>efficiency issue.  Maybe it was justified as making the styling sleeker.
>Maybe all three were brought up when the decision was made.
>
>Don Ekhoff
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark Fearer" <mfearer_at_dml_mail.fearernet.com>
>To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:14 AM
>Subject: Re: [DML] Gas Flap.
>
>
>  
>
>>So, what *was* the reasoning behind the gas flap being discontinued? Was
>>it materials & production costs? Were there defects & problems? It seemed
>>like the original idea was better than the post gas flap design....
>>
>>Mark Fearer
>>Manchester, New Hampshire
>>3072
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 06:19:05 -0000
From: "Darin Wolf" <son_darin_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Need Tire Recommendations

Are there a set of BF Goodrich that fits DeLorean? I'd like to find 
a couple.




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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 06:20:28 -0000
From: "John Elgersma" <delorean_at_dml_telus.net>
Subject: Re: gas flap hood

Scott,

Don't get obsessed about it! It is minor cosmetic alteration and with 
or without, the Delorean looks great no matter what! Those that have 
the gas access door in the trunk cover also have the creased hood. 
The access door was discontinued and the 81s continued having the 
creased hood until the 82 and 83s came with a solid, smooth trunk 
cover all together. There are no Delorean in existence that have the 
gas access door and a smooth hood. The hood frame was never altered 
as you will notice on all Deloreans that the frame allows for the 
older style 81 hood with gas access door. For that reason, both 
styles of 81 trunk lids will fit on the 82 and 83 models. With some 
interior cosmetic changes, the 82 and 83 can not be told apart. The 
81s had two varieties of trunk covers and an 81 model can be made to 
look like an 82 or 83 model exterior-wise.
Many body panels sometimes will have the VIN number scribbled on the 
inside with chalk. If you want to go that far to find out if you have 
an original hood, that's up to you!
Bye and hope I helped out!
John E.


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "khyron_21502" <khyron_21502_at_dml_y...> 
wrote:
> Hmmmm,my car 3180 has no flap.
>  Did I get gipped?
> 
>   Scott Evans
>   Vin3180
> 
> 
> 
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "John Elgersma" <delorean_at_dml_t...> 
> wrote:
> > According to my documents, it looks like the #3200 was the last 
> one 
> > with the gas access door in the hood.
> > John
> > 
> > 
> > --- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "dmcstyle1983" <sky250r_at_dml_a...> 
> wrote:
> > > What was the last VIN# for the gas flap hood?
> > > Was the trunk any differant to accommodate for this hood?




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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 09:30:05 +0200 (MEST)
From: elvisnocita_at_dml_gmx.de
Subject: Re: Wheel Repair.

Good morning from Germany.
I paid 50 Euro per wheel for having them chemically encoated, lightly sand
blasted
and poweder coated afterwards with a very originally looking silver and an
extra clear
coating afterwards. Mail me privately if you wanna see pictures.
They didn't have to machine them, that would cost some extra bucks if
necessarry.


Regards,

Elvis


> Good morning from El Paso, Tx.
> I have had my car in Houston with D.M.C. for a while having it
> refurbished.
> They offer a wheel exchange and refinish service that is cheaper than the
> price you quoted.  If memory serves they are 150.00 apiece. Like the other
> fellows have said in the past these are great guys to deal with
> Marcel 81 dmc
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "funkstuf" <funkstuf_at_dml_hotmail.com>
> To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:17 PM
> Subject: [DML] Wheel Repair.
> 
> 
> > I am hoping to restore the wheels on my Delorean.
> > Are they Aluminum?  It seems like something I should be able to do
> > myself. I spoke with a guy and he said it would cost about $600.00
> > for him to do whatever to refinish them.
> > Any knowledge or ideas on this subject?
> > Thanks
> > Dale Funk
> > #4984
> >
> >
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 06:31:40 -0000
From: "John Elgersma" <delorean_at_dml_telus.net>
Subject: Gas flap to Be or not to Be

For all intentional purposes the gas flap conversation was excellent, 
now that we all know the place where the gasoline does go after all.
My personal experience with my 82 is that without the flap, you get 
not funny looks at all but quite the opposite, mysterious and cool. 
You must only try this once, 82 and 83 owners. When you tell an 
innocent by-stander that you have just picked up the car with no 
operator's manual. It is new and needs gas desperately. You ask them 
to help you find the gas filler cap. Good luck if they find it 
without you finally lifting the trunk to expose the gas cap. Great 
prank but wait for their reaction. Have fun!
John E.





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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 08:01:37 -0500
From: "K. Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: RE: Re: Need Tire Recommendations

Yes, the BFG Radial T/A's will fit.
I run them (2 years now), and they are fine... and a bit cheaper than the
Michelin Pilots, Yokos, etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Darin Wolf [mailto:son_darin_at_dml_hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 1:19 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Re: Need Tire Recommendations


Are there a set of BF Goodrich that fits DeLorean? I'd like to find
a couple.



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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 9:38:14 -0400
From: <gw2tulsa_at_dml_cox.net>
Subject: Re: Gas flap to Be or not to Be

I pulled that stunt on a friend with a 56 Chevy... They Gas Cap is in the rear tail light. He looked around for nearly 15 minutes TRYING to find it...

-Gary

> 
> From: "John Elgersma" <delorean_at_dml_telus.net>
> Date: 2003/04/16 Wed AM 02:31:40 EDT
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Gas flap to Be or not to Be
> 
> For all intentional purposes the gas flap conversation was excellent, 
> now that we all know the place where the gasoline does go after all.
> My personal experience with my 82 is that without the flap, you get 
> not funny looks at all but quite the opposite, mysterious and cool. 
> You must only try this once, 82 and 83 owners. When you tell an 
> innocent by-stander that you have just picked up the car with no 
> operator's manual. It is new and needs gas desperately. You ask them 
> to help you find the gas filler cap. Good luck if they find it 
> without you finally lifting the trunk to expose the gas cap. Great 
> prank but wait for their reaction. Have fun!
> John E.
> 
> 
> 
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 14:39:25 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Passing emissions without Lamda

Car had current PA emission sticker when I bought it...

But is moot point without catalytic converter. I'm sure Lamda worked
OK when cars left factory 22 years ago. My concern would be how well
system ages. If my idle speed system was indicative, answer is "not
well" (and apparently I'm not the only one with schizophrenic idle
speed motor/ECU). Last thing I want back there is a fuel metering
device that can't make up its mind. Warm up regulator is complicated
enough WITHOUT any electronics.

No one is amazed when factory radio dies. Problems with door lock
electronics are legendary. Yet people expect Lamda system to remain
flawless. Go figure.

Bill Robertson
#5939 (simple but reliable)

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> If the fuel system has no Lambda then it is not K-jetronic. I doubt 
> if the engine could pass an emissions test in the US.
> 
> Harold McElraft - 3354
> 
> 
> 
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_c...> 
> wrote:
> > Hate to throw sand in the gears, but my PRV runs excellent with
> > absolutely no Lamda system whatsoever. As soon as I get out of this
> > sling & wrap will drive the vehicle (fast and smooth) to a fellow 
> w/
> > digital camera to document (if you look closely at pics in #5939's
> > photo album you can see what I'll zoom in on -- no frequency 
> valve, no
> > line to lower chambers, capped O2 sensor bung). True, my fuel
> > distributor may be different internally (Martin G, could you get
> > Darren to look into that?). But even if I have no lower chambers,
> > wouldn't simply removing fuel pressure from lower chambers in a DMC
> > unit yield the same result? My fuel distributor has a Bosch ID tag 
> BTW
> > (will quote model number when I get home). Is aluminum.
> > 
> > Bill Robertson
> > #5939
> > 
> > <snip>
> > 
> > A properly
> > set-up and operating PRV won't run right without the lambda 
> system, it
> > adds a little fuel to make the air-fuel ratio correct. With a dead 
> O2
> > sensor the Lambda will revert (fallback) to a fixed value. The big
> > symptom would be a loss of power and terrible acceleration. It is 
> even
> > worse if the Lambda system is dead completely.
> > David Teitelbaum
> > vin 10757
> > 
> > <snip>
> > 
> > You cannot remove the
> > lambda and successfully get an accurate air-fuel ratio across the
> > RPM band without going to another injection setup. Bosch K-Jetronic
> > has to have the lambda to work.
> > Harold McElraft - 3354




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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 12:25:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Need Tire Recommendations

I, too, just installed Cooper Cobra GT's.  Not many
miles on them yet, but they ride nicely and are
quieter than the Yoko's.  TRUE, the speed rating is a
notch lower, but, honestly folks, how many of you out
there go over 100+ miles per hour for a minimum of 1.5
hours at a time?  

Oh, and the Coopers are made in the good ol USofA!

Dick Ryan
VIN 16867

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 I  LOVE THEM! and didn't cost a fortune either..

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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 19:35:53 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Passing emissions without Lamda

The problem is not so much reliablity (nothing lasts forever) but the
expertise of the people that try to set-up and or fix things when they
aren't working right. The Lambda system is pretty foolproof. The
common things that go wrong are the O2 sensor (from age or
contamination) and the relay that powers the Lambda ECU. The first
thing most mechanics do is to turn the 3 brass screws which messes up
the idle system and doesn't do anything for the Lambda. Next if they
are "good" or lucky they find the mixture screw and turn that. When I
see a Delorean that isn't running good more often than not I have to
first correct all of the previous work before I can do anything. It
isn't that hard to work on a Delorean and make everything work
correctly but you have to know how it is all supposed to work before
you can get it to work the way it should. Unless you are into
experimenting and have a lot of time and money to spend my advice is
to try to keep the engine systems as stock as you can. This way anyone
skilled in Deloreans can help you. Once you start modifying things
only the person doing the changes can help you. Someday the car may
get sold and the next owner won't have a clue as to what you did or
how to keep it running.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_c...> wrote:
> Car had current PA emission sticker when I bought it...
> 
> But is moot point without catalytic converter. I'm sure Lamda worked
> OK when cars left factory 22 years ago. My concern would be how well
> system ages. If my idle speed system was indicative, answer is "not
> well" (and apparently I'm not the only one with schizophrenic idle
> speed motor/ECU). Last thing I want back there is a fuel metering
> device that can't make up its mind. Warm up regulator is complicated
> enough WITHOUT any electronics.
> 
> No one is amazed when factory radio dies. Problems with door lock
> electronics are legendary. Yet people expect Lamda system to remain
> flawless. Go figure.
> 
> Bill Robertson
> #5939 (simple but reliable)
> 





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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 13:05:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Stankiewicz <protodelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: gas flap hood


--- John Elgersma <delorean_at_dml_telus.net> wrote:
> Scott,
> 
> ... There are no Delorean in
> existence that have the 
> gas access door and a smooth hood... > John E.
> 

Now there's a recipe for a one-of-a-kind hood.  Take
Bob's instructions for adding a gas flap to a non-flap
hood and do it to an '82 or '83 flat hood.  If anyone
does this, send me some pics!



=====
Steve

VIN 2650 ("Project Delorean")
www.projectdelorean.com

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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 16:45:20 -0400
From: <gw2tulsa_at_dml_cox.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: gas flap hood

The thought has crossed my mind. I think that would look cool as heck with an 82/83 hood. Very distinctive...

-Gary

> 
> From: Steve Stankiewicz <protodelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com>
> Date: 2003/04/16 Wed PM 04:05:44 EDT
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [DML] Re: gas flap hood
> 
> 
> --- John Elgersma <delorean_at_dml_telus.net> wrote:
> > Scott,
> > 
> > ... There are no Delorean in
> > existence that have the 
> > gas access door and a smooth hood... > John E.
> > 
> 
> Now there's a recipe for a one-of-a-kind hood.  Take
> Bob's instructions for adding a gas flap to a non-flap
> hood and do it to an '82 or '83 flat hood.  If anyone
> does this, send me some pics!
> 
> 
> 
> =====
> Steve
> 
> VIN 2650 ("Project Delorean")
> www.projectdelorean.com
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 20:46:24 -0000
From: "jamesrguk" <James_rg_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Parts on e-Bay - Rear Light Lenses - (with reflector)


Hi all,

I know it is a bit cheeky trying to push items you are selling on 
eBay, but along with other bits'n'bobs I have put a set of rear light 
lenses up for sale.

The indicator/signalling part of the lenses are faded but they have 
the reflector, which I have been told is no longer availible with new 
rear tail light lenses.

So even if you just want them for the reflector please take a look.

eBay item # 2411667739

Regards


James RG




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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 17:30:48 EDT
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Need Tire Recommendations

I have a contact that has the correct size AVS Intermediate tires for the 
fronts for our cars.  I tried getting an order together a few months back, 
but no one was interested.  I've been trying to find a source for the rears, 
but to no avail so far.

Later,
Nick Pitello
1852
15914
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 17:47:53 -0400
From: "Brent W. Lundgren" <brentlun_at_dml_netrax.net>
Subject: Re: Re: gas flap hood

VIN #3049 does not have a gas door, but it does have a locking gas cap.

Brent Lundgren
83 #17006
81 #3049

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "khyron_21502" <khyron_21502_at_dml_yahoo.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:02 PM
Subject: [DML] Re: gas flap hood


> Hmmmm,my car 3180 has no flap.
>  Did I get gipped?
> 
>   Scott Evans
>   Vin3180





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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 20:43:46 -0400
From: "L. Sandel" <ls_at_dml_chickencow.csv.cmich.edu>
Subject: A few brake questions

Hello all,

I'm currently changing out the front brakes, and had a few issues crop up
during the procedure.

I was planning on fixing up the calipers with new seals.  One of the pistons
had almost seized, and the others weren't moving too freely.  This made
stopping an awkward & noisy process.

First issue: I separated the calipers to facilitate the rebuilding process.
Then I noticed the note in the shop manual that says something like "do not
ever even think about separating the calipers".  It this a genuine concern?
If not, are there recommended torque values for the bolts?

Second issue: I'm not sure what constitutes a bad caliper piston/bore from a
good one... So I took a few pictures:

http://labwww.csv.cmich.edu/luke/auto/Delorean/brakes/caliper.jpg (72k)
http://labwww.csv.cmich.edu/luke/auto/Delorean/brakes/caliperpiston.jpg
(44k)

All of the calipers look like the one pictured, but the piston shown is the
worst of the bunch (which doesn't seem too bad).  The caliper bores are
smooth to the touch.

So, are these salvageable, or should I order in some new ones?

Anybody actually used the 76 Capri calipers?  They're only $70 at Murrays...
Much easier on the wallet than most sources.

Thanks for any help,
Luke/10270





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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 19:14:35 -0600
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>
Subject: Re: Re: Need Tire Recommendations

Hi Nick,

I'm in need of a pair of front tires in the AVS Intermediates. Can you
still get them? How much?

I'd appreciate any info!

Mark N
VIN 6820

At 05:30 PM 4/16/2003 EDT, you wrote:
>I have a contact that has the correct size AVS Intermediate tires for the 
>fronts for our cars.  I tried getting an order together a few months back, 
>but no one was interested.  I've been trying to find a source for the rears, 
>but to no avail so far.
>
>Later,
>Nick Pitello
>1852
>15914




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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 19:49:48 -0600
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>
Subject: Re: Re: gas flap hood

The story I heard was that when hoods were damaged and had to be replaced
at the QAC (Quality Assurance Centers near the ports on both coasts of the
US) that they used whatever hood was available at the time. So if your 3180
got a dent in the hood during shipping it likely would have gotten the
later hood without the gas flap.

Mark N
VIN 6820

At 02:02 AM 4/16/2003 -0000, you wrote:
>Hmmmm,my car 3180 has no flap.
> Did I get gipped?
>
>  Scott Evans
>  Vin3180
>




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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 19:46:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Richard Acuti <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Wanted: Exhaust manifolds

All right....I'm getting good advice and making connections to fix my (likely) blown head gasket(s).

I noticed that my exhaust manifolds have several "ears" broken off, which is prolly why is sounds like an International Harvest "Farmall".

If anyone has an extra set they don't need, tag me offlist and let's make a deal!

Thanks,

Rich
#5335

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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 11:50:54 -0400
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Re: Need Tire Recommendations

1.5 hours?  I am not sure what that is important.  When I took my car up
to 110mph on my S and T rated tires (112, 118mph), there was an issue of
trying to keep the car on the road.  I think I will aim for a higher
grade next time...

Jim
1537

On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 12:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Dick Ryan
<deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com> writes:
> I, too, just installed Cooper Cobra GT's.  Not many
> miles on them yet, but they ride nicely and are
> quieter than the Yoko's.  TRUE, the speed rating is a
> notch lower, but, honestly folks, how many of you out
> there go over 100+ miles per hour for a minimum of 1.5
> hours at a time?  
> 
> Oh, and the Coopers are made in the good ol USofA!
> 
> Dick Ryan
> VIN 16867
> 
>


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