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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1469
Date: Sunday, April 20, 2003 3:33 AM

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There are 18 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Keels 'n Wheels
From: "K. Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>

2. Re: Need a good laugh?
From: "Adam" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>

3. "False Air" = "Vacuum Leak"
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

4. Re: Diamond headlights
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>

5. Re: Delorean at Disney
From: "Jer" <jzierk_at_dml_hotmail.com>

6. Re: Delorean Limo model
From: "John Elgersma" <delorean_at_dml_telus.net>

7. Re: headlight wiring (was: Diamond headlights)
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>

8. Re: DeLorean Car Show Magazine 2nd issue
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

9. RE: Need a good laugh?
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf_at_dml_charter.net>

10. Temperature Guage help
From: "James LaLonde" <deloreandmcxii_at_dml_excite.com>

11. Headgasket job
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>

12. Re: "False Air" = "Vacuum Leak"
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>

13. Re: Need a good laugh?
From: John Gedeon <johne_g_at_dml_yahoo.com>

14. Update#3. Re: Failed Emissions Inspection. AGAIN!!!!!
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

15. Re: Gas Flap.
From: "John Elgersma" <delorean_at_dml_telus.net>

16. Re: Digest Number 1468
From: dqauto_at_dml_aol.com

17. DeLorean for sale in MN
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>

18. Re: Need a good laugh?
From: "Adam" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>





Message: 1
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 22:48:47 -0500
From: "K. Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: Keels 'n Wheels

There probably isn't enough advance notice to do any good...
but for those of you coming into Houston for their Open House, there will be
a remarkable Concours d'Elegance in my backyard, just outside of the Johnson
Space Center. It's the weekend before DMCH's OH (May 3rd).
It's called the Keels and Wheels for the classic boats and cars that will be
shown, including the only surviving Aerocar from the 50's (roads? it don't
need no stinking roads!). Astronaut Buzz Aldrin will be the Grand Marshall.
I don't know if any D's will be entered; unfortunately, I can't I have other
engagements later that day.
Check it out at www.keels-wheels.com

Afterward, y'all can come over to the Space Center for the annual JSC chili
cook-off. I will be there with some officemates (geeks) with our
"Mega-Hurtz" chili (not-quite famous for "Overclocking the Cow"). That has
absolutely nothing to do with our car... it's just fun to burn off those
taste buds.

After that fun weekend is over it's back to work for me. I have to pay by
working the next and missing much of the OH. Sigh. :)

-Kevin




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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 03:53:10 -0000
From: "Adam" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Need a good laugh?

Magnesium wheels... everyone's wheels would be on fire!

Adam P
16683

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Ryan" <boy1der18_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> Hey all, 
> 
> There's a DeLorean for sale on ebay..
> 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dllViewItem&item=24116377
> 50&category=31830
> 
> It's a 1987 model. HMMM....
> 1987 Deleoren Coupe - Volvo V6 engine with fuel injection, five 
> speed standard transmission,power steering and brakes and dual 
> exhaust.  It has removable roof wings.  Vinyl seats.  Magnesium 
> wheels and like new tires.
> 
> DeLorean Motor Company must have come out with some options that we 
> were never told about!
> 
> Personally, I'd like to find out what "removable roof wings" are!  
> Any ideas anyone?!
> 
> Maybe someone should report this one as fraud!
> 
> Ryan
> #2930 & 4547




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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 03:58:24 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: "False Air" = "Vacuum Leak"

Another term for "false air" is "vacuum leak". With the exception of
PCV, *EVERY* ounce of air that enters your engine should pass over
(and activate) the air sensor plate. Is the only way to meter fuel.
Any air entering via injector seals, bad hoses, old O rings or
gaskets, etc will throw fuel/air mixture off. Is often much more than
minor inconvenience: impossible idle, poor acceleration, excessive
fuel consumption, dirty combustion (how many times do problems like
these crop up on list?). Can not stress enough importance of ensuring
entire upper half of engine is air tight. Good news: is easily within
capabilities of every owner to at least isolate a leak. Just don't
take any seals for granted on a 22 year old block...

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_w...> wrote:
> If the injectors are that loose you should consider replacing the
> injector seals. I see on most cars they are rock hard and loose
> fitting into the sleeve. Even when you finally get the injector back
> in and clipped the seal will leak. The term is "false air" which is a
> fancy term for air that is getting into the engine and not being
> measured by the air sensor. As for the clips they can be bent a little
> to keep from poping off but if any are missing or broken they should
> be replaced.
>  I would go easy on the Armor-all around the motor. Armor-all contains
> silicones and if they find their way into the engine by way of the air
> intake you will contaminate the O2 sensor. Use something like windex
> which is safer or find another cleaner that doesn't contain silicones.
> David Teitelbaum
> vin 10757
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "B Benson" <delornut_at_dml_p...> wrote:
> > This might sound too simple and maybe it is but, have you verified
> all the
> > injectors are securely in their seals with the hold down clips
> snapped in
> > place? I wipe down my engine every time I wash the car. I polish
several
> > areas with armorall to keep it looking good. In the process hoses
> get pushed
> > around a bit and I have a couple of injector clips that are a bit
> weak. When
> > I notice the engine idling a bit rough I push the injectors down and
> > invariably feel one of the weaker clipped ones go back into place.
> The idle
> > smooths right out. The other area that occasionaly gets disrupted
> while I'm
> > dusting things off is the electrical plug at the vacuum advance
> solenoid.
> > With that unplugged the idle is noticbly rougher and I'd think
either of
> > these things could effect the emission testing.
> > 
> > Bruce Benson




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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 23:59:17 -0400
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Re: Diamond headlights

I think the H4 bulbs have the same 3-way connector as the Delorean has
(for the low beam at least).  As far as I know, H4 bulbs are not street
legal.

Jim


On Fri, 18 Apr 2003 23:04:44 -0000 "M. P. Olans" <mpolans_at_dml_creeper.com>
writes:
> Greetings all,
>      Did anyone see the auction on ebay that just ended for the
> DeLorean diamond H4 headlight conversion?  This user had wire 
> pigtails
> that would allow the low/high beams to work correctly.  I emailed 
> the
> user "trendracing" but the user would not respond and banned me from
> bidding on the item.  Does anyone have access to these pigtails or
> know where i could ge a set for my car?
> 
> Thanks,
> Matthew
> VINs 10365 annd 16816
>


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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 04:35:36 -0000
From: "Jer" <jzierk_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Delorean at Disney

Daniel,

Thanks for the info!   Why is the DMC on display at PI (any specific 
reason)? WDW Management has been really cutting back on costs and 
stuff...  But, I am really glad to hear they will display your car. I 
go down there (WDW) often for business and such, I might catch ya 
there this summer.

Stop by the Adventurers Club and have a cold one for me... and tell 
the crew I said Hi!  ;)

Jerry
-Still saving up for my D & sitting in my comfy chair in the 
Adventurers Club.



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, mroboto_at_dml_a... wrote:
> I just wanted to let everyone know that from now until the end of 
the Summer, 
> one of my Deloreans are booked to be on display each weekend at 
Walt Disney 
> World. If you happen to be in Orlando, either email me or stop by 
Pleasure 
> Island's main entrance Friday and Saturday nights from 8P-Midnight. 
There are 
> a few isolated weekends that it won't be there; Apr 25 & May 5th.
> 
> It's been good exposure for DeLoreans, several thousand people get 
to see it 
> and ask questions.
> Does anybody have a sign that says "NO, he's not in jail!" that I 
can borrow?
> 
> If your gonna be in the 'hood, drop me a line!
> 
> Daniel Deutsch (Orlando)
> mroboto_at_dml_a...
> VIN's 3356 & 15779
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 05:38:06 -0000
From: "John Elgersma" <delorean_at_dml_telus.net>
Subject: Re: Delorean Limo model

Can't tell if this has any Delorean styling from looking at a side-
view of this boxed limo. For who is selling this, calling it a 
Delorean, we owners need to see a more up close look at this thing 
before any Delorean toy collector is going to bid on it! For who ever 
is thinking of buying it, please get more information on this before 
buying something that might no even resemble a Delorean "limo".

John E.


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "erikgeerdink" <erikgeerdink_at_dml_y...> 
wrote:
> check out this picture
> 
> http://www.roarinrod.com/Pic_6.html
> 
> 
> scroll down a bit and you will see a better picture of this car.  
> Kind of looks like a delorean, but its not.
> 
> Erik
> 4512




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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 13:38:04 +0200
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>
Subject: Re: headlight wiring (was: Diamond headlights)

> Did anyone see the auction on ebay that just ended for the
> DeLorean diamond H4 headlight conversion?  This user had wire
> pigtails that would allow the low/high beams to work correctly.
 
John Hervey might have them or dan make them up for you.

You can also just rewire the plugs that are on the car now...
All you need is a smaal screwdriver and a bit of patience once
you have the lights off the car...
It involves swapping over two wires per plug.

Using a small screwdriver you can remove the actual terminal from
the plug by pushing in on the tab that holds it in place.

Then bend the tab back into shape CAREFULY and insert the wires
so that you get (when looked upon from the "open" side) Black on
the left, Blue-Red on top and Blue-White on the left.

Did it on my car and it works like a charm.
Good luck,

JAN van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

DMC-12 "Dagger" since Sep. 2000
100NX "Saphire" since Nov. 2002

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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 07:54:16 EDT
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: DeLorean Car Show Magazine 2nd issue

In a message dated 4/17/03 4:36:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
delorean_at_dml_abato.net writes:

> Ken,
> 
> I have been so lazy to get my copy.   If I subscribe, can I still get a
> copy of issue #1?
> 

You are not the only one.
Yes we still have plenty of issues left and since we are also the printer we 
can make as many as we need.  The second issue went into the mail Friday if 
you had a subscription.  

If you ordered just the first issue and not the 2nd thru 4th you still can.

Thanks 

Ken


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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 04:22:15 -0700
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf_at_dml_charter.net>
Subject: RE: Need a good laugh?

Gee Ryan,
	I would think a guy as old as YOU would have long ago seen the removable
roof wings.    You probably haven't even found the switch that makes them
flap so you can take off and fly over traffic!!!
	Murray  OG#2







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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 13:52:14 -0000
From: "James LaLonde" <deloreandmcxii_at_dml_excite.com>
Subject: Temperature Guage help

I just got done checking my fuel pump circuit and ended up replacing 
the fuel pump... I was stuck on the side of the road, so I had 
checked both the inertia switch and the pump relay. both of which 
eneded up being fine... as once I got home I found that I had power 
at the pump.

But I get everything in the rat's nest behind my passenger seat, and 
everything under the dash and at the pump put back together... but 
now my Temperature guage is pegged straigtt down. Apparently my 
coolant is -80 degrees... perhaps that's too cold :P

My thought is that's it's either come unplugged at the sender or at 
some point in between. Looking at my miniscule wiring diagram it 
looks likes it's gounnded right after the guage... am I reading that 
right? Where is it grounded? And where is the sender? Is it the one 
on the block on the passeger side near the hot water valve?

Any suggestions on where to check? what to do?
thanks!!!
James L 004009




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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 16:47:34 -0000
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Headgasket job

Since my "critical engine failure", I've been forced to accept the 
realities of my budget, and replace the head gaskets in place. I have 
a few questions before I get started:

1.  The workshop manual shows a special tool to hold up the timing 
sprocket. Do I have to have this tool or is there another safer way?
2.  My exhaust manifolds are not in great shape and I don't want to 
damage them anymore. Can I just disconnect them from the muffler and 
the "U" pipe and leave them attached to the heads?
3.  I have been told that removing the manifolds is "easy" by some 
folks on list. #5335 has been in a very damp environment for years 
and the nuts and studs are fused together by rust. I don't even see 
how I can get at them all without removing the engine even if they 
weren't rusted. Is there something I don't know?
4.  In short, can this job be done with the engine in place or should 
I be removing it?

Thanks,
Rich
#5335




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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 12:37:49 -0400
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Re: "False Air" = "Vacuum Leak"

What about the idle speed regulator?  Doesn't it add air that isn't
measured by the air sensor plate?

Jim


On Sat, 19 Apr 2003 03:58:24 -0000 "content22207"
<brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net> writes:
> Another term for "false air" is "vacuum leak". With the exception of
> PCV, *EVERY* ounce of air that enters your engine should pass over
> (and activate) the air sensor plate. Is the only way to meter fuel.
> Any air entering via injector seals, bad hoses, old O rings or
> gaskets, etc will throw fuel/air mixture off. Is often much more 
> than
> minor inconvenience: impossible idle, poor acceleration, excessive
> fuel consumption, dirty combustion (how many times do problems like
> these crop up on list?). Can not stress enough importance of 
> ensuring
> entire upper half of engine is air tight. Good news: is easily 
> within
> capabilities of every owner to at least isolate a leak. Just don't
> take any seals for granted on a 22 year old block...
> 
> Bill Robertson
> #5939


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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 09:55:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Gedeon <johne_g_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Need a good laugh?

Hi all,

   I sent this email to the seller of that car to see
if I could get more info. Just thought I would let you
guys know and when and if he responds I will update
you guys... ps here is the vin of the car

SCEDT26T1BD003626   

is it a valid one? I don't know anything about the
vins.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2411637750&category=31830

John

--- johne_g_at_dml_yahoo.com wrote:
> To: johne_g_at_dml_yahoo.com
> From: johne_g_at_dml_yahoo.com
> Subject: Question for seller -- Item #2411637750
> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 09:51:28 PDT
> 
> I thought that Deloreans were discontinued in 1983?
> Also what are Removable Roof Wings and Magnesium
> Wheels?? And could you give me more information as
> to what the condition of the car is, ie does it run,
> has it been sitting and not driven for a long time,
> etc.
> 
> Thanks for the info
> John
> --------------------
> 
> 
> Question from:           johneg42
> Title of item:           DeLorean : All Models
> Seller:                  sbhllc
> Starts:                  Apr-18-03 10:00:00 PDT
> Ends:                    Apr-28-03 10:00:00 PDT
> Price:                   Starts at $15,000.00
> To view the item, go to:
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2411637750
> 
> 
> 
> 	Visit eBay, The World's Online Marketplace TM at
http://www.ebay.com



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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 19:57:15 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Update#3. Re: Failed Emissions Inspection. AGAIN!!!!!

I realize that "Mechanic in a Bottle" doesn't exist. What I was looking for was 
"Bribe in a Bottle" to pass the emissions testing! ;-p Of course I am admittedly 
kicking my self twice over now. 1: I wasted money, and 2. The disclaimer for 
the "Will allow your car to pass, or double your money back!*" *Only 
guaranted on vehicles with properly funtioning emissions, and fuel systems. 
Doh!

Anywho. I pulled the sparkplugs, and have discovered that plugs 1-3 show 
normal characteristics, although 4&5 had much less carbon on them. This 
could be due to the detergents and solvents that were run thru, I don't know. 
And then we come to plug #6, which was dry fowled. Unlike the others plugs, 
on this one the only place where carbon deposits had not covered anything 
was on the tips of the electrodes where the spark was arcing. Although on a 
side note, the ceramic insulater on the OUTSIDE of plug #5 is severly 
yellowed on the bottom. This is the crooked plug as well, if that makes a 
difference.

So now I know for certain that this is a problem with the fuel delivery system. 
The gap ranges were varied on the plugs (between .27-.35), but this plug was 
literally middle of the road _at_dml_ .32, compared to the others, which were clean. I 
still need to test the spray patterns & output volumes (need one more jar). But 
based upon the CIS theory, I would assume that injector #6 is clogged, which 
not just fowled the plug, but caused a rich condition in the remaining 5 
cylinders due to the lack of it's own proper fuel displacement. So now I'd like 
to clean the injectors. But as it turns out, my local official BOSCH service 
center can't do, since their machine is broken. So I'm off to find someone who 
can...




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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 21:23:58 -0000
From: "John Elgersma" <delorean_at_dml_telus.net>
Subject: Re: Gas Flap.

Hi,
I looked for the originating message on this metal-bending experience 
you are into. May I ask what this all about? You replace the hood on 
a Delorean and you pretty well take what you can get out there. Is 
there any reason for this extreme modification to have a gas flap on 
your car?? If you purchase a hood these days, does it come without 
the fiberglass frame?
Like to know how this all got started!
John"E".


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_s...> wrote:
> I used sheet metal pliers (a vise grip type tool) to start the 
bends, 
> after I cut out the center area.  Don't forget to cut the corners 
at a 
> 45 degree angle to the edge of the openning.  
> 
> Once you get the bend near 90 degrees around each edge, you need to 
> square up the edges.  I good strong hand with sheet metal pliers 
can get 
> real close. Squaring the edges is also necessary to make the fit 
look 
> good to the new door.
> 
> Before final squaring, place the door in the hole to make sure your 
> edges are square. It won't fit until you are almost done but it 
should 
> be close.
> 
>  I used a 4 inch brick cutting chisel and heavy hammer as a weight 
to 
> tap the metal against for a square edge.  A small ball peen hammer 
works 
> best.  Just don't hurry the process.  
> 
> All you are trying to do is get the radius on the bend to a little 
less 
> than 1/8 in. not a perfectly  sharp square edge.  
> 
> BOB




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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 17:39:32 -0400
From: dqauto_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1468

In a message dated 4/19/2003 3:40:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com writes:

> 
>Sorry, but I am not a big fan of the brake pad shims. They are only spot glued on and have a habit of coming free.  Recently, I replaced caliper, pads, rotors on a 91 Trooper for that very reason.  The shim came free causing a binding and ended up scrubbing the piston, ripping the boots, severe uneven wear on the pads to bare metal and then some, and on the vented rotors-->ate the back half of the rotor to expose holes through to the vents!  

Now, this is an extreme example and I will most likely never see that again but I am definately going to use the painted on antisqueak stuff. :)

I see why the lady traded it in to the auction.  I am very happy though about the whole affair.  I bought it with 100k for $1000 and added 500 in repairs. I put it on my used car lot yesterday for 3500.  And I sold it today.

:) Anna
Future D owner 
Impulse, Conquest, Z,SVX owner           



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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 16:23:40 -0500
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>
Subject: DeLorean for sale in MN

Hey list, long time no post.  Just wanted to give any prospective new owners
a heads up on a DeLorean I found for sale in the Minneapolis area.  Deatails
as follow....

1982 DeLorean, Vin #10690
18,000 miles
ASI Radio
Very clean inside and out
Leather in good condition
Frame is in very good condition
Appears to be 100% original, right down to the original Goodyears.

Here is what I found wrong with it....

Broken upper muffler mount ($35 part)
No wipers (probably still with original owner)
Engine cover latch broke as I opened it (the actual loop on the cover
itself)
The door headliners show signs of age, and in a small spot appear to have
been re-glued
Still has the blue fan-fail module (I didn't even know the factory put these
on the 82s)
Driver's door sags

The owner is asking $18,000 which I believe is a very fair price for a car
in this condition.  I have not driven this car or even seen it run, but that
can be arranged if there is an interstate buyer interested in this car.  It
is currently on consignment at a small used car lot in the Twin Cities.  If
anyone has serious interests in this car, please email me at
ultra"at"isd.net . I'll give you the contact information for the dealer and
can arrange a further inspection and test drive if requested.

One more thing.....  The dealer told me the owner has a stash of over $4000
in parts he bought with the car from the original MN dealer when the last
one was sold.  Said he would include it with the purchase of the car for
$2000.  I have yet to find out more infomation on this.

I'll be at the DeLorean Midatlantic Spring Social next weekend,
I'll be at the DeLorean Midwest Connection spring tech session in May,
and I'll be at Pigeon Forge in 2004!!!

Jim Reeve:  aka - TIMMAY!!!
MNDMC - Minnesota DeLorean Club
DMC-6960





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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 15:37:00 -0000
From: "Adam" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Need a good laugh?

Nevermind, I'm dumb. I was thinking pure magnesium >8^) I guess its 
magnesium-aluminum alloy.

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Adam" <acprice1_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> Magnesium wheels... everyone's wheels would be on fire!
> 
> Adam P
> 16683
> 
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Ryan" <boy1der18_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> > Hey all, 
> > 
> > There's a DeLorean for sale on ebay..
> > 
> 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dllViewItem&item=24116377
> > 50&category=31830
> > 
> > It's a 1987 model. HMMM....
> > 1987 Deleoren Coupe - Volvo V6 engine with fuel injection, five 
> > speed standard transmission,power steering and brakes and dual 
> > exhaust.  It has removable roof wings.  Vinyl seats.  Magnesium 
> > wheels and like new tires.
> > 
> > DeLorean Motor Company must have come out with some options that 
we 
> > were never told about!
> > 
> > Personally, I'd like to find out what "removable roof wings" 
are!  
> > Any ideas anyone?!
> > 
> > Maybe someone should report this one as fraud!
> > 
> > Ryan
> > #2930 & 4547




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