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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1474
Date: Thursday, April 24, 2003 3:39 AM

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There are 10 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. "Cheap DeLorean" spotted . . .
From: Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com>

2. Re: STILL running a little rich...??
From: "dmcmike2002" <billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com>

3. Castrol GT LMA
From: <ken_at_dml_odoc.ca>

4. where do I buy either single or twin turbo kits?
From: "C. C. Cameron Putsch" <putsch.1_at_dml_osu.edu>

5. Re: "Cheap DeLorean" spotted . . .
From: "d_rex_2002" <rich_at_dml_outernet-tech.net>

6. DCS #2
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>

7. electical problem
From: "Marvin" <marv_at_dml_printeddrinkware.com>

8. Re: Re: Front Rotor Replacement
From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>

9. Brake fluid flavors
From: id <ionicdesign_at_dml_execpc.com>

10. Ash Tray
From: "Kramer" <jettaman95_at_dml_yahoo.com>





Message: 1
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:29:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: "Cheap DeLorean" spotted . . .

I saw this ad in the Ohio Auto & RV week of April 14-20.
Here is the info. if any are interested. 
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'81 Automatic, 41K miles
stored 15yrs, needs work, sheet metal, exc. cond., project car
$5,500 Grover Hill, OH
813-787-8696  or  813-494-6078
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Grover Hill is near Indiana, just NW of Lima,OH.


déjà vu?
it seems to me that I saw a car in the same area about the same price last summer
. . . same car?

Shannon Y
VIN 16506

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 18:29:53 -0000
From: "dmcmike2002" <billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Re: STILL running a little rich...??

andy,
i am cutting and pasting from an old message on the DML. It is also 
in the Technical manual with a picture but not a real detailed 
explanation. if you are standing behind the car use your left hand 
and reach the front of the engine about half way down. the 
diagnostice plug is about an inch and a half wide and has a black 
plastic cover. It is seated in a black metal bracket. you can unclip 
it from there and lift it up to use it. you will see the male plugs.

here is a a cut and paste on setting your mixture:
   If you have a dwell meter ($35.00) you can get the air fuel (AF) 
ratio
pretty close.
1. Find the diagnostic plug. On the left rear fire wall.  Attach the 
ground
from the dwell meter to  pin # 2 on the plug. Attach the other wire 
from the dwell meter to pin # 3 on the diagnostic plug. Set the meter 
on Dwell. 

2. Crank the engine. Let it get warm. This is so that the oxygen 
sensor is sending a good signal to the Lambda Control unit. (When the 
engine is cold the computer sends a fixed signal to the frequency
valve). You can see this "fixed" signal on the dwell meter. The read 
out on the dwell meter will be 60% duty cycle or about 54 on the four 
cylinder scale. When the engine gets hot the computer starts looking 
at the oxygen sensor and adjusting the frequency valve to adjust the 
exhanst level. If the dwell meter needle swings high (60% to 70% or 
54 to 63 on the four cylinder scale)on the scale when the engine is 
warm the mixture is set to lean. Turn the AF screw on the distrubter 
clockwise just a little with a 3mm allen wrench. Remove the allen
wrench from the AF screw, cover hole and let the system settle and 
look at the dwell meter reading. If the needle swings low (29% to 37% 
or 26 to 33 on the four cylinder scale)the mixture is set too rich , 
turn the screw counterclockwise
to lean the mixture.

again, go easy as an 1/8th or 1/4 turn does alot. Your ears will also 
tell you if you are getting closer to a smooth idle.

hope this helps
Mike C
2109
> 
> since i don't have access to an exhaust analyzer for CIS, can you 
explain 
> exactly how to infer the CO ratio from the dwell reading?  > Andy





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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 14:58:26 -0400
From: <ken_at_dml_odoc.ca>
Subject: Castrol GT LMA

I have a supplier here in Toronto Ontario that gets Castrol GT LMA
 
Its $50 cdn for a case of 12 cannisters of 12 FL OZ (354mL) 
 
If anybody needs some let me know and I can ship it out 
 
-Ken
5541
 


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 16:07:59 -0400
From: "C. C. Cameron Putsch" <putsch.1_at_dml_osu.edu>
Subject: where do I buy either single or twin turbo kits?

Hello all. I am sure most of you know about the single and twin turbo kits for our cars and how much they cost, but where do they come from? I hear the single kit is no longer available, but you can still get the twins new. How do I contact these people? Any info is very apreciated.

Sincerely, Casey at putsch.1_at_dml_osu.edu 


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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 19:58:30 -0000
From: "d_rex_2002" <rich_at_dml_outernet-tech.net>
Subject: Re: "Cheap DeLorean" spotted . . .

Shannon and List,

That car was sold a few weeks ago to someone in Indianapolis, IN
and, unfortunately, is currently being parted out on ebay.

I say "unfortunately" because the car appeared to be complete and
appeared to be a fairly easy restore.

The good news is that the new owner, Ryan, is using most of the
front end parts to restore his '83 Delorean (previously damaged).

Later,
Rich W.


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> I saw this ad in the Ohio Auto & RV week of April 14-20.
> Here is the info. if any are interested. 
> -----
> '81 Automatic, 41K miles
> stored 15yrs, needs work, sheet metal, exc. cond., project car
> $5,500 Grover Hill, OH
> 813-787-8696  or  813-494-6078
> -----
> Grover Hill is near Indiana, just NW of Lima,OH.
> 
> 
> déjà vu?
> it seems to me that I saw a car in the same area about the same 
price last summer
> . . . same car?
> 
> Shannon Y
> VIN 16506
> 
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> The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:06:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: DCS #2

Just received and devoured DeLorean Car Show magazine
#2.  Great job, Ken.

Dick Ryan

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 17:22:27 -0400
From: "Marvin" <marv_at_dml_printeddrinkware.com>
Subject: electical problem

When I turn off the radio, I can very faintly hear the radio still playing. Everything else on the car works great - no electrical problems. If I switch a relay for the accessory relay in an attempt to see if that solves the problem, which one should I switch? I don't have a spare relay.


Marv
# 17707
marv_at_dml_printeddrinkware.com  



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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 19:10:30 -0400
From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Front Rotor Replacement

You need to replace the old rubber brake lines with the new stainless brake
lines. I was surprised how much the braking improved once I did that. I
could even do a four wheel brake lockup, which wasn't even possible before.

Dave Sontos
vin 02573
----- Original Message -----
From: <Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] Re: Front Rotor Replacement


> Hi List,
>        Ever since I have owned this car the brakes have have taken
excessive
> foot presure to slow the car down.
Thanks
>
> Dave
> 6286-MI




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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 21:47:49 -0500
From: id <ionicdesign_at_dml_execpc.com>
Subject: Brake fluid flavors

Does anybody know who makes NAPA Dot 4 brake fluid?

Is this Dot 4 as good as the GT-LMA fluid?

Mark
6683




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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 03:19:24 -0000
From: "Kramer" <jettaman95_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Ash Tray

I would like to remove the ash tray and then re-paint it. The 
previous owner used grey spray paint all over the interior and I must 
try and undo the damage. Thanks for the help.




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