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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1485
Date: Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:48 AM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Varney DeLorean
From: Louie G <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>

2. RE: Re: Celebrities with Deloreans_McCormick?No!
From: "Scott Gardner" <gardners14_at_dml_cox.net>

3. speaker pods
From: "Jonas P" <Delorean3543_at_dml_yahoo.com>

4. Re: AC fan 3 and 4 positions
From: "dmcorlando2003" <SundeQuick_at_dml_aol.com>

5. recovering seats
From: "Jeff" <webmaster_at_dml_88-mph.com>

6. Re: Varney DeLorean
From: abatt10347_at_dml_aol.com

7. Cooling Fan Brushes
From: doctorDHD_at_dml_aol.com

8. Re: Celebrities with Deloreans?
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com

9. Re: more - Delorean Midatlantic Spring Social - thanks
From: Dmc3360_at_dml_aol.com

10. Re: Johnny Carson DeLorean true location
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

11. Re: Celebrities with Deloreans?
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

12. Re: AC fan 3 and 4 positions
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

13. RE: AC fan 3 and 4 positions
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>

14. Re: Varney DeLorean
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

15. RE: RPM Relay Repair
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>

16. RE: Rear Main Seal Replacement
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>

17. RE: Cooling Fan Brushes
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>

18. Re: Varney DeLorean
From: Swoyerzone_at_dml_aol.com

19. Re: Celebrities with Deloreans_McCormick?No!
From: "captain_hydrogen" <captainhydrogen_at_dml_cox.net>

20. Engine Swaps and tranny questions
From: Louie G <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>

21. Re: Cooling Fan Brushes
From: webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk

22. Re: speaker pods
From: "gullwingmagazine" <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>

23. Re: speaker pods (kick panels) at DCFS
From: "d_rex_2002" <rich_at_dml_outernet-tech.net>

24. Re: D Rex event and free lunch *
From: "d_rex_2002" <rich_at_dml_outernet-tech.net>

25. Re: Engine Swaps and tranny questions
From: Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>





Message: 1
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 17:14:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Louie G <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Varney DeLorean

I'm trying to remember the details of Jim Varney's DeLorean. Wasn't it an automatic twin turbo (and painted red?). It seems I also remember it's being used as a parts car now... am I wrong?

Louie Golden
VIN 10115



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 17:34:12 -0400
From: "Scott Gardner" <gardners14_at_dml_cox.net>
Subject: RE: Re: Celebrities with Deloreans_McCormick?No!

There were actually two "Coyotes", one from the first season, and one
from the second and third seasons.  The original Coyote was a modified
Manta Mirage kit car, with a Volkswagen chassis and a Porsche 914
engine.  The second version was a similar body on a Delorean frame.
Don't know whether t used the fiberglas Delorean chassis as well.

Scott



-----Original Message-----
From: John Elgersma [mailto:delorean_at_dml_telus.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 2:50 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Re: Celebrities with Deloreans_McCormick?No!

Mark,
Got to disagree with you on the Coyote car from Hardcastle and 
McCormick. Had a look at the website for that car and it is 
definitely not a Delorean, frame maybe? Appears to be some kit car 
from looking at it! Nothing really special from the looks of it!
Bye
John E.







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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 00:45:46 -0000
From: "Jonas P" <Delorean3543_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: speaker pods

I have heard of people on the list talk about speaker pods (or Q-
forms as we called them when I was in the car stereo business) that 
fit in the lower kick panels of the DeLorean. Can anyone tell me what 
vender has these and where I could see pics?
Jonas 3543




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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 01:31:13 -0000
From: "dmcorlando2003" <SundeQuick_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Re: AC fan 3 and 4 positions

I forgot to mention that if I turn the Fan switch to 1 or 2 or simply 
turn the AC off for a minute it all works fine again...

Michael

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "dmcorlando2003" <SundeQuick_at_dml_a...> 
wrote:
> After my AC runs for awhile (30-45 min or so) Wen the Fan is on 3 
or 
> 4 it cuts off.  I kow the are on two seperate relays, one for 3 and 
> one for 4.  Whatis causing this...is it that they are over heating? 
> Do they need to be replaced?  (Should I swap them with one of the 
> other relays like the high or low beam and try that first?)
> 
> Unfortunately I am never in a position to check them out when the 
fan 
> stops.
> 
> Michael
> Vin# 2944





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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 21:45:12 -0400
From: "Jeff" <webmaster_at_dml_88-mph.com>
Subject: recovering seats

Ok, now here's a baffler.
 
Got a pair of seats that I'm going to recover. First off, I'll never say
that the D seats were ever half-assed built, because of two words. Hog
rings. Damn there are a lot of them there!! Ok, so, got main back of the
seats pulled and the foam exposed. Problem is when you get to the
headrest. (I'm sure some of you already know where I am going with
this.) ok, so that little notch of leather between the main seat and the
headrest is a nice addition, but is a pain to work around. Two sets of
hog rings holding that together. Ok, so I dealt with that and now here
is the problem. How do I get the covers off the headrest without
damaging the foam? And worse yet, how do I get new covers back on and
the hog rings into spaces to re-establish that "notch" ?
 
Am I in for any other surprises? It makes me wonder how they covered
these things in the first place.
 
 
-Jeff Chabotte
Norwich, CT
Webmaster, http://www.88-mph.com
 
 


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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 21:47:51 EDT
From: abatt10347_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Varney DeLorean

Jim Varneys car was dismantled (inter only) but was not used as a parts car. 
It was sold to the KY owner and has been put back on the raod. I'll let the 
KY owner pick up the story from there. By the way it was never painted and 
did have the 81 hood, lines no flap.
To add one more "star delorean" Lou Gossett Jr. bought one a few years ago 
and had Delorean One fix it up. The car came from TN. I know because I helped 
the broker find it for him.
Bruce Battles
MTARNDO
Vin 06569



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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 21:56:03 EDT
From: doctorDHD_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Cooling Fan Brushes

Can anyone tell me how to fix the brushes on the radiator cooling fans?  Do 
the fans need to be removed from the car and if so how is that done.

Thank you,

Dave
6530


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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:01:35 EDT
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Re: Celebrities with Deloreans?


Jack Tripper (John Ritter) & Ralph Ferley (Don Knotts) from Three's Company 
both owned a DMC back then in the early 80's.



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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:34:50 EDT
From: Dmc3360_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: more - Delorean Midatlantic Spring Social - thanks

I am glad to see everyone enjoyed our Spring Event.  With the bad weather we 
still had about 16 cars.  I am sure the number would be closer to 25 or 30 if 
the sun was shining.  However it is more about everyone getting together to 
enjoy themselves.  Thanks especially to Dave Teitelbaum, Rob and Debbie 
Grady, and all those who helped make it a great weekend.

Gary Gore
Vice President
DeLorean Mid Atlantic



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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 03:11:47 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Johnny Carson DeLorean true location

The Johnny Carson car was next to me in Cincinatti at Ken's show in
1998. The owner had a lot of documentation on the car. J C really
never owned it, it was taken back as I recall by DMC when the company
was in bankrupcy. This was the car that died on Johnny on the drive
home from the dealer the day he picked it up. The ducey alternator
just couldn't keep up. That car was entered in the councours and it
didn't even place. Although it was nice it wasn't cleaned up so it
didn't present very well. J C was a large invester in DMC and I guess
they though that lending him a car was going to generate a lot of
publicity and they were right, just not the kind they were looking for!
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_l...> wrote:
> Ken Koncelik wrote:
> 
> >  The Johnny Carson DeLorean [snip] is in the Akron Museum . . .
> 
> Actually, the Johnny Carson DeLorean came to Ken's show from the
Canton Classic Car
> Museum in Canton, Ohio:
> 
> http://www.cantonclassiccar.org/
> 
> The same city hosts the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
> 
> - Mike Substelny




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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 03:17:13 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Celebrities with Deloreans?

Many celebrities have owned Deloreans at one time or another. You have
to keep in mind many of them change cars like us ordinary people
change shoes. Mnay celebrities don't keep cars very long. Just look at
the auctions, if a celebrity ever owned the car right away they think
it is worth more than just any other car!
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "B Benson" <delornut_at_dml_p...> wrote:
> Celebrities who own or have owned DeLoreans include actor Patrick Swazy,
> Indy winner Ari Lyindyke, country singers George Jones, and Larry
Gatlin,
> and boxer Tommy Herms. Can't say who still owns them. I know that Larry
> Gatlin's car was sold as was Ari Lyendyke's. I know that Tommy Herms
had a
> friend who did convertible conversions when the big three weren't
building
> them some years back and his friend was trying to talk him into making a
> convertible. George Jones was given his by a friend who got himself
locked
> in the car one too many times and just said "take it!" Picked that
up from
> George's dog groomer who owned a Bricklin at the time. One of my
daughters
> ran into Ari Lyendyke through a mutual friend in Phoenix some time
back and
> somehow the subject came up. He was trying to sell it at that time.
> 
> Bruce Benson




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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 03:19:27 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: AC fan 3 and 4 positions

You need to order a relay upgrade kit. Included in the kit are 2 new
circuit breakers, one for the heater fan and one for the radiator fans.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, id <ionicdesign_at_dml_e...> wrote:
> Sounds like the circuit breaker needs replacing.
> 
> Mark
> 6683
> 
> dmcorlando2003 wrote:
> 
> > After my AC runs for awhile (30-45 min or so) Wen the Fan is on 3 or
> > 4 it cuts off.  I kow the are on two seperate relays, one for 3 and
> > one for 4.  Whatis causing this...is it that they are over heating?
> > Do they need to be replaced?  (Should I swap them with one of the
> > other relays like the high or low beam and try that first?)
> >
> > Unfortunately I am never in a position to check them out when the fan
> > stops.
> >
> > Michael
> > Vin# 2944




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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:12:22 -0700
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>
Subject: RE: AC fan 3 and 4 positions

Michael, This a sign of the blower motor going out and it's drawing more
current. If you up the circuit breaker amperage to 40+ amps you will adding
to the problem of over heating. Replace the blower motor and use the proper
circuit breaker, I wouldn't go to a higher amperage. Over heating will melt
wires and turn them brittle.
John Hervey
www.specialtauto.com


-----Original Message-----
From: dmcorlando2003 [mailto:SundeQuick_at_dml_aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 2:30 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] AC fan 3 and 4 positions


After my AC runs for awhile (30-45 min or so) Wen the Fan is on 3 or
4 it cuts off.  I kow the are on two seperate relays, one for 3 and
one for 4.  Whatis causing this...is it that they are over heating?
Do they need to be replaced?  (Should I swap them with one of the
other relays like the high or low beam and try that first?)

Unfortunately I am never in a position to check them out when the fan
stops.

Michael



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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 23:44:58 EDT
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Varney DeLorean

I went out to buy it and went with Bruce Battles
 
The car was in bad shape but I was a little late in making up my mind 
I know who got it so as stated before I'll let him respond

The car was really bad interior wise but steel and frame was ok

Ken


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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:37:14 -0700
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>
Subject: RE: RPM Relay Repair

Scott, I have repaired several RPM relay's and most of the time the relay
just comes loose from the PC board or the relay coil burns out because it's
own as long as the car is running. I have yet had to replace the 555 chip.
The other problem is the contacts burn and need cleaning and re adjusting.
Now that I have new ones in stock at a low price I haven't fixed many in the
last year.
John Hervey
www.specialTauto.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Mueller [mailto:scott.a.mueller_at_dml_mchsi.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 4:10 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] RPM Relay Repair


I am always interested in learning how a device works or how to repair it.
I am looking forward to the repair procedure.

I changed the subject line to reflect the project being taken on by Elvis.

Scott Mueller
002981
RNDOLA




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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:42:57 -0700
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>
Subject: RE: Rear Main Seal Replacement

Rich, If you have dropped a tranny before then it can be done in 3 to 4
hours. Then it has to go back and hope nothing happens while doing it. You
make want to have a set of engine mounts on hand if they break. I noticed
you saying oil/coolant. Hope there isn't any coolant coming out of the rear
main seal. If there was or is you have more problems. It's also a good time
to look at the clutch while you have it down.
John Hervey
www.specialTauto.com

-----Original Message-----
From: cruznmd [mailto:racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 5:54 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Rear Main Seal Replacement


I'm still struggling to make a plan of attack for my blown head
gasket and oil/coolant leak. I had decided on a total engine rebuild,
but I have been advised that it's just un-necessary by the good folks
in Houston.

After crawling under my car, I've pretty much confirmed that the
crank seal is the source of a large oil/coolant leak (I know, you're
saying that if that was the problem, there  wouldn't be coolant in
it). I believe I have a combination of problems.

Warren has advised me to just drop the tranny in my driveway and
replace the seal.



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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:49:10 -0700
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>
Subject: RE: Cooling Fan Brushes

Dave, First you can't fix the brushes, they have to be replaced. The inside
has to cleaned out and the bearings have to be replaced and re greased. I
charge $75.00 + freight to recondition them.
John Hervey
www.specialTauto.com


-----Original Message-----
From: doctorDHD_at_dml_aol.com [mailto:doctorDHD_at_dml_aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 6:56 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Cooling Fan Brushes


Can anyone tell me how to fix the brushes on the radiator cooling fans?  Do
the fans need to be removed from the car and if so how is that done.

Thank you,

Dave
6530



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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 00:39:20 EDT
From: Swoyerzone_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Varney DeLorean

I saw Varney on an E! True Hollywood story,  after his death, it was still 
the original Stainless steal and I remember part of the documentary where one 
of his friends claimed they were pulled over for doing something like 130mph 
on the freeway,

Darryl
VIN 5898


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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 04:46:26 -0000
From: "captain_hydrogen" <captainhydrogen_at_dml_cox.net>
Subject: Re: Celebrities with Deloreans_McCormick?No!

More info at http://www.codeoneauto.com/inventory/coyote.html

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Scott Gardner" <gardners14_at_dml_c...> 
wrote:
> There were actually two "Coyotes", one from the first season, and 
one
> from the second and third seasons.  The original Coyote was a 
modified
> Manta Mirage kit car, with a Volkswagen chassis and a Porsche 914
> engine.  The second version was a similar body on a Delorean frame.
> Don't know whether t used the fiberglas Delorean chassis as well.
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Elgersma [mailto:delorean_at_dml_t...] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 2:50 AM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: Celebrities with Deloreans_McCormick?No!
> 
> Mark,
> Got to disagree with you on the Coyote car from Hardcastle and 
> McCormick. Had a look at the website for that car and it is 
> definitely not a Delorean, frame maybe? Appears to be some kit car 
> from looking at it! Nothing really special from the looks of it!
> Bye
> John E.




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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 00:03:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Louie G <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Engine Swaps and tranny questions

I've been cruising around DeLorean sites the last few days checking out various engine swaps people have done. What I'm looking at specifically is what transmissions people use when they do these large swaps. I've seen where both Bob Brandys Land Rover v8 D, and Jim Strickland's Mazda 3 rotor D both use porsche transmissions. On the other hand Rich W.'s Turbo Buick uses a stock D tranny with a custom bellhousing. There's a couple of swaps I saw on Tamir's site that I'm curious as to what trannies they used- the Chevy 350 powered D which was at the Memphis show, and the Ford v8 powered D at the Cleveland show. If there's anyone else out there on the list, or knows of someone who's done an engine swap, I'd really like to hear how you got around the limitations of the stock D transmission.

Louie Golden
VIN 10115 



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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 08:51:55 +0000
From: webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk
Subject: Re: Cooling Fan Brushes

I can't answer the first question because the answer to the second question is yes. You have to remove the radiator cowling from the radiator, and that's a lot easier by taking the rad itself out, though on my project car I wasn't worried about taking the condenser off... I haven't disassembled my fan motors because they work fine.

Why do you want to take th emotors apart? Are they not working?

Martin
#1458
#4426


> Can anyone tell me how to fix the brushes on the radiator cooling fans?  Do
> the fans need to be removed from the car and if so how is that done.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Dave
> 6530
>




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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 12:19:53 -0000
From: "gullwingmagazine" <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Re: speaker pods

Jonas

We have pics of the speaker pods you are talking about in our current 
issue of Gullwing Magazine.  They are included in an article on 
installing a high-power stereo system in the DeLorean.  These 
particular pods came from Don Steger at DeLorean Motor Center.

You can check out the current issue cover and contents at 
http://entermyworld.com/dshop/index.html
In the site shop under Gullwing Mag you can scroll down to "current" 
issue to see the cover.  You might also take a look a comments we 
received on the first issue.

Ron


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Jonas P" <Delorean3543_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> I have heard of people on the list talk about speaker pods (or Q-
> forms as we called them when I was in the car stereo business) that 
> fit in the lower kick panels of the DeLorean. Can anyone tell me 
what 
> vender has these and where I could see pics?
> Jonas 3543




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Message: 23
Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 12:27:55 -0000
From: "d_rex_2002" <rich_at_dml_outernet-tech.net>
Subject: Re: speaker pods (kick panels) at DCFS

Jonas and List,

The best looking Delorean kick panels can be purchased from
Eric Weber, through Delorean Custom Fabrication Services and
can be viewed at:  www.ExoticDMC.com   If you can dream it,
chances are DCFS has built it or can build it to your specs.

Best way to reach Eric and Marni is via email, so if you need
more information or photos, send them a quick email request.

ExoticDMC (at) aol.com

Later,
Rich W.


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Jonas P" <Delorean3543_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> I have heard of people on the list talk about speaker pods (or Q-
> forms as we called them when I was in the car stereo business) that 
> fit in the lower kick panels of the DeLorean. Can anyone tell me 
what 
> vender has these and where I could see pics?
> Jonas 3543




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Message: 24
Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 12:42:47 -0000
From: "d_rex_2002" <rich_at_dml_outernet-tech.net>
Subject: Re: D Rex event and free lunch *

Delorean Enthusiasts,

The D Rex will be at a grand opening anniversary celebration
this Saturday, May 3 at the Quiznos Sub Sandwich Shop located
in Algonquin, IL.  The D Rex did a promotional event for the
shop last fall, and business increased 60% for the day.  For
those of you who have not seen D Rex in person or would enjoy
seeing it again, feel free to stop by and say HI.

And for Delorean owners, besides the forecast of 65 degress
and sunny, I have made arrangements with the Quiznos shop to
offer a free lunch to any Delorean owner who brings their D
and stays for a few hours, with free parking by the D Rex.
So if you are in the Chicagoland area and have not dusted off
your Delorean yet this year, get it out for some exercise this
weekend and stop by to enjoy the weather and free food at the
Quiznos in Algonquin.  More details on my D Projects forum.

Later,
Rich W.

www.DeloreanMotorCars.com




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Message: 25
Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 08:42:06 -0500
From: Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>
Subject: Re: Engine Swaps and tranny questions

Louie,

It is fairly easy to mate a stock Delorean 5 speed to any engine.  that 
is what is done in most cases.

THe stock 5  speed is good to about 300 HP.  As for different 
automatics, the Porsche trans is the  only one I know of that is RWD and 
Rear engine.

Get a ZF4HP22HL from a 84.  It is the easiest to install, because of no 
computer.

BOB




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