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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1499
Date: Sunday, May 11, 2003 10:14 AM

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There are 12 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: DeLorean Car Show Magazine (Time Machines)
From: "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>

2. Re: door strip adhesive?
From: "peters_pa" <peters_pa_at_dml_yahoo.com>

3. Re: marty's hat from bttf2
From: "Alex Khavich" <prof_khavo_at_dml_hotmail.com>

4. Re: firewalls
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

5. Re: Water Pipe
From: "James LaLonde" <deloreandmcxii_at_dml_excite.com>

6. Re: Epoxy Removal
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

7. Window Sticker
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

8. RE: recovering seats - retry-
From: "Jeff" <webmaster_at_dml_88-mph.com>

9. Dennis Gage
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com

10. DMC part numbers
From: Noah <sitz_at_dml_onastick.net>

11. Re: marty's hat from bttf2
From: "Ryan Hood" <Ryan_at_dml_Hood.de>

12. Re: firewalls
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>





Message: 1
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 15:11:47 +0100
From: "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: DeLorean Car Show Magazine (Time Machines)

I got mine the week before last. I'm in England

Cheers

Paul
#6463
http://www.paul.salsbury.btinternet.co.uk

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From: <ROBLAMROCK_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] DeLorean Car Show Magazine (Time Machines)


> In a message dated 02/05/03 01:34:28 GMT Daylight Time, kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
> writes:
>
>
> > If you had a subscription for the second issue of the magazine and have
not
> > received it yet please e-mail me privately.
> >
> > I don't trust the post office on this one.
>
> Ken,
> Sadly my magazine hasn't arrived (as of Saturday 10th May).
> I'll check with some of the English club members to see if theirs came.
> Might be worthwhile popping my magazine into a plain envelope as the
DeLorean
> still creates a lot of interest here and who knows where my magazine could
> end up.  Although having said that I manage to get all the other DeLorean
> mags that I subscribe to.
> Hope you had a good time in Houston.
> Very best wishes,
> Robert
> Belfast
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 14:12:57 -0000
From: "peters_pa" <peters_pa_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: door strip adhesive?

I've found that working with the 3M Super Weatherstrip Adheasive you 
must apply it thin to both surfaces, let it skin over for a few 
minutes, re-apply to one surface, and then bond.  This method has 
worked well for me.

Peter Shimkus
7195



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_w...> 
wrote:
> Go to an auto body supply and they can recommend the correct 3M
> product. In any case for any adhesive to work everything must be 
CLEAN.
> David Teitelbaum
> vin 10757
> 
> 
> 
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "dandan67" <dandan67_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> > The black stips inline with my door handle have become loose and 
I 
> > want to re-affix them. Anyone have have preferred 3M adhesive 
they can 
> > share?
> > 
> > I did try their "Super Weatherstrip Adhesive" today but it kept 
> > "skinning" within a second of application and didn't bond worth 
a darn 
> > to the rubber strip.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Dan Danknick




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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 16:35:28 +0000
From: "Alex Khavich" <prof_khavo_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: marty's hat from bttf2

>From what I heard, they had the item for sale at the Universal Studios theme 
park, for the Back to the Future ride. I don't know if they still have them 
or not, and I haven't been able to find any on eBay. Good luck finding one!


-Alex

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 12:54:56 EDT
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: firewalls

In a message dated 5/10/03 9:09:16 AM Central Daylight Time, 
funkstuf_at_dml_hotmail.com writes:

> I am replacing the exhaust system in my Delorean in my restoration.
> I have found that the firewall shield surrounding the catalytic 
> converter is not available.  Warren at Delorean Motor Co. tells me 
> this is not necessary anyway.. I am collecting opinions on this as I 
> am investing substantial money here.
> Please offer yours.
> Thanks
> Dale Funk
> Vin 4984


Dale,

you could replace the cat with a cat eliminator pipe 
(http://www.dmc-service.nl/Uk/Index_Uk.htm), then you will help free up the 
exhaust a bit (Ed Uding claims a 10hp increase) and there won't be any extra 
heat generated from a cat so the heatshield is unnecessary.

Andy


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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 16:59:51 -0000
From: "James LaLonde" <deloreandmcxii_at_dml_excite.com>
Subject: Re: Water Pipe

You're not the minority Bill,
While you're ALL THE WAY down in that area of the engine, why not 
remove 4 more bolts. I broke a bolt on the pump.. but the four on the 
internal water pipe weren't even hard to remove for me. 
Granted; you can't just leave on out (like I did the water pump's) if 
it breaks.

But be careful Mark, when putting in those little orings.. it's easy 
to knock one out of place and end up pinching it with the water 
pipe... then when you don't test the pressure cooling system and just 
put everything back together... you'll have twice the fun doing it 
all all over again.
But who the hell would put everything back together with testing the 
pressure?? Surely not me.

Step two is giving up and shipping the car to Grady, and spending 
twice what you had expected. And knowing it was worth every penny.

And if you're not already -- give the car a tune up, and replace the 
spark plugs and etc and fuel injectors while you have the intake 
manifold off. Then pray.

-James L 004009




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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 17:59:48 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Epoxy Removal

You can't remove epoxy with chemicals. It has to be removed
mechanically. If the frame is off the car the most effiecint method is
sandblasting. If the body is still on the only way is with an angle
grinder with a wire wheel. If it is an area you can use a lot of heat
(not near fiberglass or anything flammable) then use a torch to soften
the epoxy and scrape it off. This is a potentially dangerous procedure
so be careful with the flame. An industrial heat gun may get it hot
enough but I know it can be done with an acetalyne torch just watch
where you point the flame! If you are only doing spots then this is a
good way. Feather sand the edges of the paint, wire brush the metal,
prime and then spray with Krylon Smoke Grey. You can get it in Home
Depots and it is a very close match. Working in the crumple tube area
I would suggest you remove the gas tank or at least drain it of all
fuel and vapors.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757




--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_j...>
wrote:
> How about an angle grinder?
> 
> You need to make sure you take off enough if you are arc welding; it
> (obviously) really gets hot, and the epoxy will catch fire.  And it
> smells bad.  
> 
> Jim
> 
> On Fri, 9 May 2003 20:28:18 EDT Delorean17_at_dml_a... writes:
> > HI List,
> >        I am going to have my crumple tube section welded and 
> > reinforced 
> > within the next week or so.  I can't seem to find a good way to 
> > remove the 
> > old epoxy from the frame.  I have tried heat with a propane torch 
> > and 
> > aircraft paint stripper.  Neither one really did the job.  Is there 
> > anything 
> > out there that works on epoxy?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Dave,
> > 6286
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 18:24:56 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Window Sticker

I just aquired a window sticker for 16933. If it is someone on the
list e-mail me and I will send it to you for postage. If no one
responds I will sell it cheap but I thought I should offer it to the
correct owner first. This is for one of the last 83's built with a
Total Suggested Retail Price of $34,632.90!!!!!!
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757




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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 15:34:52 -0400
From: "Jeff" <webmaster_at_dml_88-mph.com>
Subject: RE: recovering seats - retry-


Ok, so this seemed rare to me, but I got 0 replies!! So I'm resending
this one.. maybe few words might have filtered it out to those who know.
Anybody?

Ok, now here's a baffler.
 
Got a pair of seats that I'm going to recover. First off, I'll never say
that the D seats were ever half-heartedly built, because of two words.
Hog
rings. Darn there are a lot of them there!! Ok, so, got main back of the
seats pulled and the foam exposed. Problem is when you get to the
headrest. (I'm sure some of you already know where I am going with
this.) ok, so that little notch of leather between the main seat and the
headrest is a nice addition, but is a pain to work around. Two sets of
hog rings holding that together. Ok, so I dealt with that and now here
is the problem. How do I get the covers off the headrest without
damaging the foam? And worse yet, how do I get new covers back on and
the hog rings into spaces to re-establish that "notch" ?
 
Am I in for any other surprises? It makes me wonder how they covered
these things in the first place.
 
 
-Jeff Chabotte
Norwich, CT
Webmaster, http://www.88-mph.com




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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 19:05:09 EDT
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Dennis Gage

Howdy-
I was catching the last of "My Classic Car" just now, and at the end I saw a 
line of DeLoreans and such. It was good times. Then I saw Dennis Gage get 
into the D-Rex and start 'er up. That was awesome. I was simply amazed, 
though, since I had met him at an auto show in Minnesota less than a month 
ago, the World of Wheels. I had asked him what he thought of DeLoreans, and 
he said that they were "cool cars, but underpowered." He liked the gullwing 
doors and stainless especially (as many do.) 

My heart stopped on this one, so I had to let you all know.
John
4275 


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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 20:37:33 -0400
From: Noah <sitz_at_dml_onastick.net>
Subject: DMC part numbers

Does anyone happen to have a text file containing all the DMC 
part numbers and descriptions? If so, if you could contact me 
off-list; I'm putting together a web-based project which needs
that info, and I'd like to avoid entering them all by hand of at 
all possible. =)

Noah Robin
#2867
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to failure.
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 04:12:37 +0200
From: "Ryan Hood" <Ryan_at_dml_Hood.de>
Subject: Re: marty's hat from bttf2


> From what I heard, they had the item for sale at the Universal Studios
theme
> park, for the Back to the Future ride. I don't know if they still have
them
> or not, and I haven't been able to find any on eBay. Good luck finding
one!

I bought one of these hats at the Universal Studios Hollywood about 10 years
ago.
Paid around $25.
It's a hard to find collectors Item now and I saw one on ebay about a year
ago selling for $270.

Ryan & #16216




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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 23:04:54 -0400
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Re: firewalls

This is also very illegal.

You can probably "get away" with it in many states, especially the ones
that don't have safety/emissions testing.  

The cat will slow exhaust flow, and probably steal some horsepower, but
it's in there for a reason- better for the environment.

If the heat shield is metal, you can probably get one custom made and
welded onto your cat for cheap....

Jim


> Dale,
> 
> you could replace the cat with a cat eliminator pipe 
> (http://www.dmc-service.nl/Uk/Index_Uk.htm), then you will help free 
> up the 
> exhaust a bit (Ed Uding claims a 10hp increase) and there won't be 
> any extra 
> heat generated from a cat so the heatshield is unnecessary.
> 
> Andy


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