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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1530
Date: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 10:03 AM

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There are 22 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Re: Hood Struts
From: "The Atkinson Family" <mikeatk_at_dml_cox.net>

2. RE: Re: Hood Struts
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>

3. Aftermarket 138db Horns.
From: Robert Rooney <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

4. Magazines
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

5. Re: Re: Digest Number 1520
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>

6. Delorean Owners Assosiation
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

7. Sprayed interior
From: Paul Salsbury <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>

8. Thank you
From: "phoenix00622002" <phoenix_at_dml_eticomm.net>

9. Final thoughts RE: My water pump failed again...
From: "miltdanfoss" <dan.foss_at_dml_lycos.com>

10. Air Conditioning Lesson's Learned
From: "miltdanfoss" <dan.foss_at_dml_lycos.com>

11. Steering wheel cowl
From: "geek123y" <ken_at_dml_techno-concepts.com>

12. RE: Aftermarket 138db Horns.
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>

13. Fw: DeLorean meet
From: "Marvin" <marv_at_dml_printeddrinkware.com>

14. Delorean Frame
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>

15. Re: Digest Number 1520
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>

16. Re: Delorean Owners Assosiation
From: "luvvw2002" <luvvw2002_at_dml_yahoo.com>

17. Re: Digest Number 1520 (Unhappy about the DOA and DW)
From: "Darryl Tinnerstet" <darryl_at_dml_techline.com>

18. Re: Re: Digest Number 1520 (Unhappy about the DOA and DW)
From: "Brian McCool" <bjmccool_at_dml_attbi.com>

19. Re: Hood Struts
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>

20. Re: Dash Led's
From: "dmc12jp" <hidesuke_at_dml_anet.ne.jp>

21. Arnie Brandon, Pacific Northwest
From: Mark Fearer <mfearer_at_dml_mail.fearernet.com>

22. Alternative wheels
From: "jamesrguk" <James_rg_at_dml_hotmail.com>





Message: 1
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 00:33:43 -0700
From: "The Atkinson Family" <mikeatk_at_dml_cox.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Hood Struts

Good question, I'm looking at repairs myself from there struts.

Mike Atkinson
vin 16232


  Subject: Re: [DML] Re: Hood Struts


  Have the DMCH door struts been fixed so they dont bend
  the mount when the door is closed??

  --- Harold McElraft <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com> wrote:
  > DMCH has all the struts on sale! The best price in
  > years. Why screw 
  > around using something that almost fits when you can
  > get the correct 
  > one at a good price?
  > 
  > Harold McElraft - 3354
  



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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:28:59 -0700
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>
Subject: RE: Re: Hood Struts

Special T Auto.com has new factory original struts for the car as well at
the low price..Check it out on the site.We even give the door struts away
free with a $500.00 order.
John hervey
www.specialTauto.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Harold McElraft [mailto:hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 6:43 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Re: Hood Struts


DMCH has all the struts on sale! The best price in years. Why screw
around using something that almost fits when you can get the correct
one at a good price?

Harold McElraft - 3354



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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 21:40:28 -0700
From: Robert Rooney <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Aftermarket 138db Horns.

It took me a bit of searching for the packages, but I still had them in 
my tool box, and hadn't thrown them away yet. *Whew!* Since I've gotten 
a few requests, here are the part #'s for the horns.

The horns are made by a company called, "Carrand Horns". And these 
particular models are called "Magnum Blaster" _at_dml_ 138 db. I got these at a 
CSK store (Checker/Shcuck's/Krager), and from what I've seen, only CSK 
seems to carry them.

Installation is a snap, and the instructions are very clear. Just pretty 
much unbolt the old horns, bolt the new one's in, connect them, and 
that's it. Easily accomplished in less than 10 minutes!

Here are the part #'s

High Note:
3-0114 (3)
SKU
0 48374 30114 (last digit unknown, but might be a 6)


Low Note:
3-00115
SKU
0 48374 30115 6


-Robert
vin 6585 "X"




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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 07:20:58 EDT
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Magazines

The recent post by Trevor had me respond to him but in light of the fact that 
Arnie has indicated it is not a deliverable address I think I will respond 
here.

The reason for the DeLorean Car Show Magazine and the new Gullwing magazine 
is to give people what they want.  There is also DeLoreans that is more 
directed towards DMC Houston.  I am the editor of DeLorean Car Show magazine and 
believe the DeLorean following want a magazine that is easy to write articles for 
and fun to read.  You will also not guess when you are getting the next issue. 
 We will meet our delivery dates.

The first two issues seem to have done just that and I totally disagree that 
there is nothing to write about.  We have articles coming in all the time and 
the response so far has been very positive.  When any magazine excludes groups 
of people then it is obvious that those people will look elsewhere.  And that 
is what we are seeing.

The DeLorean Car Show Magazine is also open to ANYONE who wants to write on 
the subject of DeLorean and you do not have to belong to a specific group or 
even subscribe to the magazine.  It is an open forum although for the benefits 
of the readers we will edit as necessary to accommodate space and normal 
editing.

As with the DeLorean Car Show this is designed to be your magazine and we 
will follow the direction of the readers.  We offer a money back guarentee if you 
are not satisfied as we do with everything else.  We also will ship anywhere 
for no additional cost so everyone can enjoy the magazine for the same price 
including Europe and Australia.

The main point here is that I for one have tried over the years to bridge the 
gap between all groups and have opened the forum for everyone in the Car Show 
and now the Magazine.  That philosophy will continue.

When you start to target limited areas you make your product more selective.  
And that is what we have seen.  

Its now a matter of marketing and publicity and may the best magazine win.  

If you haven't tried DeLorean Car Show Magazine go to DeLoreancarshow.com and 
click on Magazine.

If you want to submit an article or have any suggestions please feel free to 
do so the addresses are on the web page as well.  If there is any avenue that 
you think we need to fill  tell us and submit an article or idea and we will 
give it a try.  We are probably the most open forum available besides the DML 
so its up to you as to where we go.

Thanks for your support.  There has been a marked increase in membership over 
the past few weeks and we thank you.

Ken
DeLorean Car Show Inc.
DeLorean Car Show Magazine
Deloreancarshow.com

Vin
16684
3720
1880


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 09:34:27 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>
Subject: Re: Re: Digest Number 1520

Ten years ago, when I was first shopping for a DeLorean, a good friend and loyal Porsche
enthusiast tried to talk me out of it.  He showed me a copy of Porsche Panorama, the
Porsche Club of America's magazine.  "Just look at Porsche's loyal following," he said,
"Do you think someone publishes a magazine for DeLoreans?  I doubt it."

It sure seemed like he had a point.  Who would make a magazine devoted to just 8,500
cars?  (a figure I believed at the time)

When I discovered DeLorean World I was greatly encouraged.  In fact, if the DOA and
DeLorean World didn't exist I would not have bought a DeLorean, nor would I have gotten
involved in the DeLorean community.

Fast forward to 2003.  By some strange twist, today I can subscribe to FOUR different
DeLorean magazines at the same time!  All of them have color pictures and look just as
impressive on my coffee table as Porsche Panorama.  In fact, DW's evolution into a
lifestyle magazine makes it seem less redundant.

I plan to subscribe to all four, just because I can!

Frankly, I don't expect all four magazines to last.  One year of all four would cost  $72
+ $36 + 27.50 + $48 = 183.50.  That includes DOA membership and half of a two year
subscription to DeLorean Car Show magazine.  That's almost enough to pay for a new water
pump, or an original copy of Stainless Steel Illusion, or three nights at the Smoky
Shadows Motel in Pigeon Forge.

I doubt that there are enough DeLorean enthusiasts who share my view to support so many
magazines.  But as long as this wild orgy of DeLorean publishing keeps going, I'll hang
on and enjoy the ride.

- Mike Substelny




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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 14:18:29 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Delorean Owners Assosiation

I have been trying to reach the DOA as per Trevor's suggestion. There
is NO contact info except for John Truscott whose phone doesn't answer
and there is no message. The DOA website has no contact info and when
I tried to leave an e-mail on their mail page it was refused by the
server. The e-mail address for Trevor won't work either. The only time
I got any attention from them was a post on the DML which they won't
publicly acknowledge exists (except here in Trevor's post for the
first time!) It seems strange that such a public appearing
organization makes itself so hard to contact yet they put themselves
foward as the premier owner's organization. It would seem to me that
it is really a California club that is trying to make itself look
larger and more important than it really is. I was only trying to
contact them to let them know that I have received a lot of e-mails
privately agreeing with me and telling me how they don't like what is
happening but they won't come out publicly. The DOA should know what
is going on and ignoring it won't make it go away like they hoped the
DML would just go away. Between the direction the magazine is going
and the change in the membership rules IMHO they are not doing things
to improve the DOA. I would hate to see it disappear, it was the glue
that held the Delorean owners togther for a long time in the early
years when it wasn't clear what was going to happen and there is an
extensive archive of technical info accumulated over the years.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757




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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:19:24 +0100 (BST)
From: Paul Salsbury <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>
Subject: Sprayed interior

Could someone send me the link to the site with the
pictures of the sprayed / re dyed grey interior.

Thanks

Paul

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 08:35:21 -0000
From: "phoenix00622002" <phoenix_at_dml_eticomm.net>
Subject: Thank you

Thank you everyone for your posts. I never met such a friendly group 
of people! We look forward to meeting all of you at the next 
gathering!




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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 16:58:44 -0000
From: "miltdanfoss" <dan.foss_at_dml_lycos.com>
Subject: Final thoughts RE: My water pump failed again...

In response to an earlier request to post a final email on these 
email topics, here is my (hopefully) final post on my water pump 
troubles.

New pump from Special-T-Auto worked great, and my D is back in 
service. I will note that the pump from Special-T-Auto, rotated by 
hand much more smoothly than did the pump from Volvo. It is also 
threaded at the end, and the shaft protrudes more, but these are of 
no concern to me. 

Make sure if you do move your own pulley from stock pump to a Volvo 
type replacement, that you look on Special-T-Auto's site for the 
pulley reference picture. You can press the pulley on using a press 
or vice and a socket on the shaft at the impeller side to save the 
impeller. 

Also, I was able to R&R pump without removing the intake manifold, 
and etc., though I did have to loosen the four bolts common to it and 
the heads to reattach the rear hoses. This may be of value to someone 
who has a situation like mine where the o-rings and hoses under the 
intake do not need attention (replaced recently). 



Dan in Cocoa, FL (3932)






Subject:  My water pump failed again, revisited.

 
  

Thought I'd share my experience this weekend.

After rebuilding the engine because of a bad water pump, the darn 
thing failed again on the first day I actually drove it anywhere 
after the rebuild.

When I took the failed water pump out this weekend, the pulley would 
not rotate (and by the way, I only removed the belt, the throttle 
barrel assembly and the intake plenum 'w pipe'). 

I saw on www.specialtauto.com a picture showing how to tell if the 
pulley was pushed on far enough and sure enough it was out 3/4 of an 
inch.

When I took the back of the pump off, I found that the impeller wheel 
had indeed been rubbing the back of the water pump case, and in fact 
there was quite a bit of damage to both the back and the impeller 
wheel too.

This rubbing must have transferred the heat to the seal, and caused a 
failure. I figure I sped up the process by having the belt very 
tight, which caused the pulley and impeller to try to align, causing 
it to push into the backing.

I think I'll let SpecialTAuto put on the pulley this time. Would have 
saved me this fun experience!!


Dan in Cocoa (3932) 

Dan Foss 
(321) 476-3701 








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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 19:45:32 -0000
From: "miltdanfoss" <dan.foss_at_dml_lycos.com>
Subject: Air Conditioning Lesson's Learned

In the Space business, after a launch we hold what we call 
a "Lesson's Learned Meeting," so everyone can apply our lesson's 
learned to future launches, which helps make things flow smoother in 
the future.

I want to share my A/C refit lesson's, for those needing or 
considering tackling it in the future.

I took my car in for a estimate to charge the A/C, and found that 
having the compressor out of car for 8 months, had caused it to begin 
to freeze up - when turning the compressor clutch (center nut, common 
to pulley), with a socket/ratchet - it turned, but was obviously 
bound.  If the prior owner, who is the one who removed it, had stored 
it with oil and closed the rear ports, it may have made it to being 
reinstalled. I could have rebuilt it, but opted for a new unit.

My estimate to have the compressor repaired, system updated and 
converted to R134A was $910. Being cash poor due to buying a 
DeLorean, I decided to try the conversion myself.

First thing I downloaded the two guides on the DMCNEWS tech site. 
Thank you!

I bought a new compressor, drained the mineral oil (per Dave's 
section on the DMCNEWS tech site), bought a new accumulator (actually 
two - DMC-H couldn't tell me what desiccant was inside theirs, so I 
opted to return it and get one that wasn't a mystery), a refill kit, 
gauge and a GM orifice tube.

I took out the accumulator and since the system had already been 
converted to R134A before I bought it I wasn't so concerned with 
flushing it, so I just blew out the lines with oil free compressed 
air. 

The low side was easy to blow out and a lot of ester oil came out. 

The high side was blocked, so I disassembled the other line to the 
evaporator (it goes through the fire wall). It is the line that is in-
between the accumulator and the right wheel. 

This is important because I couldn't find anywhere else that told me 
where I could find the "white GM Orifice Tube" to replace.  It is in 
this line. It actually was what was blocked. It is the system filter 
(according to the back of the new orifice tube package). It took me 
an hour nibbling away at it with a pair of long nose pliers until I 
could get the brass tubule out. After that I ground down one of my 
wife's crocheting hooks (with permission), to the right size to fit 
in the tubule hole, then I extracted it. Of course I also used a pipe 
cleaner first (the kind for copper water pipe), and then blew in 
compressed air the back way to keep from getting contaminants in the 
system.

Finally, I reassembled, and vacuumed down the system and left it over 
night. I then checked to see if it held the vacuum by depressing the 
needle at the low side port. It held and so I reapplied vacuum for a 
half hour and then charged the system. 

Yes I did use the cans WITH oil, (call me the rebel) of course I made 
sure all the oil was out of the system first, and put in two cans 
before I started the car, to make sure I had enough oil in the new 
compressor. 

It now blows ice cold. All pressures are within specs and I used the 
amounts in the workshop manual, compensated for R134A (5% less).

Morale of the story - replace the orifice tube every time!!

Dan in Cocoa, FL (3932)




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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 20:06:22 -0000
From: "geek123y" <ken_at_dml_techno-concepts.com>
Subject: Steering wheel cowl

Would anyone be interested in purchasing a steering wheel cowl cover 
if I make a mold to produce it?  The original ones are made of 
styrene.  I am proposing to make new ones out of ABS type plastic. 
The cost will be about $175.00 each set.

Ken





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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:33:29 -0700
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>
Subject: RE: Aftermarket 138db Horns.

If i'm not mistaken, In this part of thge country they can be bought at
HarBor Freight, I bought a Blaster set to tell people to get out of my wifes
way.Shen has a Northstar.
John Hervey



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Rooney [mailto:DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 9:40 PM
To: Dom Diaz; Dave Stragand
Cc: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Aftermarket 138db Horns.


It took me a bit of searching for the packages, but I still had them in
my tool box, and hadn't thrown them away yet. *Whew!* Since I've gotten
a few requests, here are the part #'s for the horns.

The horns are made by a company called, "Carrand Horns". And these
particular models are called "Magnum Blaster" _at_dml_ 138 db. I got these at a
CSK store (Checker/Shcuck's/Krager), and from what I've seen, only CSK
seems to carry them.

Installation is a snap, and the instructions are very clear. Just pretty
much unbolt the old horns, bolt the new one's in, connect them, and
that's it. Easily accomplished in less than 10 minutes!

Here are the part #'s

High Note:
3-0114 (3)
SKU
0 48374 30114 (last digit unknown, but might be a 6)


Low Note:
3-00115
SKU
0 48374 30115 6


-Robert
vin 6585 "X"



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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:30:23 -0400
From: "Marvin" <marv_at_dml_printeddrinkware.com>
Subject: Fw: DeLorean meet



I did a preview trip last Saturday, for the upcoming DeLorean meet in London, Ontario, Canada, on Saturday, June 14, 2003.

The indoor marina / pool at the motel looked inviting. I was told we will have a designated parking place at the front of the motel, and a private room for Sunday breakfast (order off the menu) before our photo op at my home. 

The cruise portion includes a small sample of something similar to the "Dragon's Back" road with twists and turns. The pit stops include, a  winery, pioneer town, view of a classic original dragstrip (where I won trophies in the old days), lunch on the beach at Lake Erie, ice cream at an ice cream factory, see famous historical sites, a peanut store that has samples, and stuff to die for, then to the show and shine portion Saturday afternoon, at a family park with waterslides, mini golf, go karts, driving ranges, wall climbing, bumpercars, etc. The evening will be a continuation of fun at a mini Dave and Busters type restaurant with cosmic bowling lanes, pool tables, video games, virtual Pebble Beach golf, etc. The management has provided us with a front door reserved parking area. 

Sunday afternoon offers a huge free car show at a local auto parts parking lot - perhaps as many as 300 cars. Ours qualify for display since they are over 20 years old.

The cost, you ask? Registration is zero, nil, nadda, free, rein, zip! Pay for what you eat / drink!

It appears we may have over 12 cars coming from Ohio, Michigan, New York, Ontario, and points beyond. I heard from Ron at Gullwing magazine today and he is coming up with the yellow customized DeLorean, and a camera for his next issue. I think Ken will be here from the 2004 Pigeon Forge Show and the DeLorean Car Show Magazine, with one of his 3 Deloreans.

.............and lots of freebies, too!
Sounds like a party!!!!
We will have a great time!!!! Bring a camera!!!!!

Marv.
# 17077
marv_at_dml_printeddrinkware.com


       





       
     
     

 



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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 23:06:00 -0000
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>
Subject: Delorean Frame

Group, If anyone is intrested, I have a good frame not perfect but 
good for sale or trade. Email or call off line if intrested before I 
put it on ebay.
John Hervey
www.specialTauto.com





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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 00:42:59 -0000
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1520

Well said Mike - I like comparing all of them too. Friends do have a 
hard time believing there are 4 different publications.

Harold McElraft -3354 and DOA member 105


> I doubt that there are enough DeLorean enthusiasts who share my 
view to support so many magazines.  But as long as this wild orgy of 
DeLorean publishing keeps going, I'll hang on and enjoy the ride.
> 
> - Mike Substelny




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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 05:01:16 -0000
From: "luvvw2002" <luvvw2002_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Delorean Owners Assosiation

Its there, http://www.delorean-owners.org/doa/direct.html its listed 
on the directors listing, it has an e-mail link to each, oh, and did 
you leave a message for the truscotts? They are really sweet, but do 
get out of the house sometimes, John is helping me look for a car at 
the moment, really helpful. You should try to leave a message.

Peter James

VIN # Not yet! :(




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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 21:52:50 -0700
From: "Darryl Tinnerstet" <darryl_at_dml_techline.com>
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1520 (Unhappy about the DOA and DW)

<SNIP>
>  If any of you are interested,
> then why not send a letter, or e-mail to a Board member? I am sure most
> would gladly inform the board at the next meeting. Along those lines, If you
> have a concern, why not write to the president? why sit here and piss and
> moan, no one here can do anything about it, you all say, "if things would
> change..." then send your concerns to the President! 
<SNIP>

I've tried real hard to stay out of the DOA/DW fray, but that statement has to be addressed.  Some years ago while still a loyal DOA member and long time DW advertiser, I did just that.  I challenged the DOA leadership with various concerns, including violation of California's laws regulating non-profit corporations, their preferential treatment in DW of one particular advertiser, his being allowed to pass judgment in advance on my ads before they were published, misuse of association funds, etc.  Instead of a reasonable response or inquiry on their part, I got a nasty letter from HIS attorney warning me to back off.  I told his attorney where he could put his threat, but ultimately had to decide that DOA was no longer worthy of my support as either a member or an advertiser.  Also,  I presumed that as more and more members got fed up with DOA it would just implode, and like most of us who are aware of the goings-on there, I really don't care any more what happens to them - they and their little travel magazine are irrelevant.  I think Gary "IN2TIME" summed it up very well.
Darryl Tinnerstet
Specialty Automotive
McCleary, WA
www.delorean-parts.com



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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 07:22:50 -0500
From: "Brian McCool" <bjmccool_at_dml_attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Digest Number 1520 (Unhappy about the DOA and DW)

Speaking as someone who has been a member of the DOA since about 1987, I
agree that the new format doesn't interest me as much as the old. On the
other hand, I agree with Trevor that there aren't that many topics left to
delve into that deeply concerning the technical part of the car. Between the
past issues of Delorean World and this list, just about every part of the
car has been discussed and dissected in extreme detail.
I'm still in a wait and see position concerning Delorean World and its new
direction, but lets be honest, could any magazine possibly hold up to the
amount of tech talk on this list and the immediate responses that are given
to virtually any question. Maybe its time for DW to go in a different
direction. Whenever something changes there will always be someone that's
not happy with it.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "trevor Johson" <dmcboy1der_at_dml_hotpop.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] Re: Digest Number 1520 (Unhappy about the DOA and DW)


>     I really have no interest in getting into a debate with any one, but I
> just want to shed some TRUTH onto all the misinformation going around
here.
> First, Linda Porter is president, has been for the last 4 years. Ed only
> recently took on the editors position when our current editor resigned, as
a
> TEMPORARY replacement, the board is still looking for someone with
suitable
> qualifications to take over for the next term. If any of you are
interested,
> then why not send a letter, or e-mail to a Board member? I am sure most
> would gladly inform the board at the next meeting. Along those lines, If
you
> have a concern, why not write to the president? why sit here and piss and
> moan, no one here can do anything about it, you all say, "if things would
> change..." then send your concerns to the President! This is how you can
> bring change, by voicing your opinions, contrary to belief, only 2 Board
> members even look at the list, so in order for your opinions to get
through,
> send them directly to Linda. I won't pretend to know what Ed is trying to
do
> with dw, all I know is that if you look back, DW has over 72 issues, which
> have covered just about everything there is to with DeLoreans and tech,
the
> new magazine still has tech, but again, in 20 years, its all been said...
>     You say its not interesting any more, which is why the format has been
> changed, there are a lot of owners who have read everything there is on
> DeLoreans, and reading about how to add an emergency release to the hood,
> just isn't interesting after being published 5 times. DW has always had
the
> option to send in your articles and have them published, but this has just
> never been taken advantage of like it was hoped. (From: "frenkieboy"
>     If you have concerns, please direct them to the appropriate board
> member, www.delorean-owners.org has a listing of all of them, and their
> contact info.
>
> P.S. I will not respond to people looking for a fight, or rude little
people
> with something against someone, constructive criticism is welcome, but to
> those of you who just want to argue, grow up, please.
>
> Trevor Johnson
>
>
>
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 01:54:13 -0000
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Re: Hood Struts

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Marc Levy <malevy_nj_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> Have the DMCH door struts been fixed so they dont bend
> the mount when the door is closed??

Marc

A severely bent strut mount is one bit of damage that I have seldom 
seen. The only strut mounts that I have seen severely bent were the 
ones where the owners put a brace or clamp on the strut to hold the 
door open in a parade. The brace on the body never broke but the 
bouncing of the car did bend some back to a major angle. For a long 
time I used Paul Pitman's struts but since he got out of the 
business I have always used the DMCH struts. Everything seems fine.

The reason I preferred Paul's and now DMCH, is because the amount of 
back pressure used to slow the door down at close to fully open is 
in my opinion just right. Grady's struts don't seem to have any back 
pressure. On hot days the DMCH struts allow the door to open smooth 
while it is also slowed down by back pressure when near fully open. 
That way the door does not open at full speed and stress the mounts 
at the stop position. Grady's struts just seem to allow the door to 
fly open. Often in Houston, especially on a hot summer afternoon, I 
was more worried about the mounts breaking off when I opened the 
door. I have always used the DMCH struts with confidence.

Harold McElraft - 3354





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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 06:15:28 -0000
From: "dmc12jp" <hidesuke_at_dml_anet.ne.jp>
Subject: Re: Dash Led's

Hello list,

First post to DML and probably the first post from Japan also.

I would like to share my experience of LED conversion. I replaced the incandescent 
bulbs on the A/C panel and in some of the switches on the panel to LEDs. The LEDs I 
used are not the ones from Jamstrait. They were not available when I did the 
conversion two year ago. It would have been much easier with those.

I did this conversion because I was worried about the significant heat that is produced 
by those bulbs. I thought it might even distort the panel in a long run. LEDs draw less 
current so it is good for the car. I estimated the current consumed in the A/C panel to 
be about 1.5A. By replacing them to LEDs it is reduced by a factor of 20.  Another 
advantage is that once you replace the bulbs to LEDs you won't need to open it again 
for replacing the bulbs. LEDs will last almost forever. 

I am pleased with the results. It gives much crisper and clearer impression to the 
panel than the original. It is literally cool.

One thing that might be unique to my modification is the use of current limiting 
diodes. They regulate the current to 15mA regardless of the supplied voltage. This 
gives a constant brightness regardless of the condition of the electrical system in the 
car. The drawback is that the rheostat does not have much effect. It does not bother 
me, though since I do not need to worry about the heat any more.

I used  6 hyper-intensity LEDs (2 White, One Blue, One red, Two green) and 2 diodes 
for the A/C panel, One red and one diode for the Hazard switch.  In some part, I used 
two or three LED in series with this diode. The voltage drop is different for different 
color of LED, so you need to take it into account when planning the combination. 

I had to cut off the tops of each LEDs a bit for the A/C panel, but I did not need to 
modify the panel at all. Replacing the bulb in a switch is a little tricky. First, you take 
out the switch and open it carefully. You then solder a LED and a diode together, and 
tailor its legs to fit the contacts where the original incandescent bulbs have been. 

I posted the pictures on the web.
http://homepage.mac.com/hokam/PhotoAlbum1.html 

I am sorry for the poor quality of the pictures. They are out of focus. At that time I 
had a very old digital camera which had a fixed focus and it was extremely difficult to 
take such kind of pictures.

Regarding the choice of the color of LED, Mike is right. I should have used a white 
LED for the temperature control part of the A/C panel instead of blue. Experiments 
showed white LEDs give much pleasing color to our eyes. I think this can be explained 
by the fact that the wavelength of color LED is almost monochromatic, whereas the 
coloring of the panel is not. By using a monochromatic light source only a small part 
of the light can transmit. Also the intended color cannot be reproduced. 

Specs of the LEDs I used. The cost of each LED is about 500 yen (= $4) here in Japan. 

White LED --- NSPW500BS
4000 mcd (TYP) 20mA, VF = 4V

Blue LED --- E1L51-3BC02
1800 mcd (TYP) 30mA, Wavelength - 465-475 nm, VF = 5V

Bluish Green --- E1L51-KC0A2-1
3200 mcd (TYP) 10mA, Wavelength - 493-498 mn, VF = 3.2V
(This LED is used for green traffic lights)

Current limiting diode - CRD-153 (15mA)

I hope this will be of some use to you.

Best regards,
Hideki Okamura
Tokyo, Japan


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <mquinto_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> The reason why I'm going with white for the greens and blue is, it
seems to show 
up the lens color better than using blue, amber or red led behind it.
I have these 
individual colored led's to play with, but I didn't have green so I
could tell you how it 
might look.




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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 21:00:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mark Fearer <mfearer_at_dml_mail.fearernet.com>
Subject: Arnie Brandon, Pacific Northwest

 All,

 I found a kit to help eliminate air in the cooling system at
http://dmcnews.com/Techsection/cooling.htm
 Does anyone know if Arnie Brandon is still selling these kits? It looks
the page has not been updated since 1999.

Mark Fearer
vin 3072
Manchester, New Hampshire




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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 07:37:54 -0000
From: "jamesrguk" <James_rg_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Alternative wheels

list,

I had the option of changing my alloy wheels on the DMC for a set my 
friend had sitting in his garage of anouther car.
They were the universal fit type with loads of mounting holes, sure 
enough they fitted fine and looked pretty sharp.

They were 15" rims with low profile tyres, slightly wider than the 
stock front wheels, I can't remember the exact measurement.

The only problem is that obviously the stock wheels are considerably 
wider at the rear than at the front, when people have upgraded their 
wheels have they kept the same configuration or have they 
compromised and used a set that is wider than the original front and 
slimmer than the original rear wheels.

Just interested from a saftey/handling point of view.

Rgds

James RGUK




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