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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1539
Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:30 AM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: A few probs: shifting stiff, wont go(sometimes) dot 4 leak? , gas, temp sens
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

2. Re: A few probs: shifting stiff, wont go(sometimes) dot 4 leak? , gas, temp sensors
From: Louie G <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>

3. RE: Delorean Owners Assosiation
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

4. Summer get together anyone!?
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

5. DMC Or LMC that is the question!
From: Vin 5386 <delorean_stainless_at_dml_yahoo.com>

6. Re: Contents of Oil Pan (Engine Failure)
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

7. Delorean Turbos, Twin Turbos? What, where, how much?
From: "steve" <steve_at_dml_redsquall.net>

8. Any Owners in the Northern Indiana Area?
From: "steve" <steve_at_dml_redsquall.net>

9. Delorean Raffle
From: "Ace Underhill" <aceu_at_dml_brilliantscreen.com>

10. Hard Rock Cafe Pin
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com

11. Re: DMC Or LMC that is the question!
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

12. Re: Woes
From: Jeff Angwin <jeff_at_dml_coware.com>

13. Strange noise in enginebay
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>

14. Harada Power Antennae
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

15. Oil drain plug
From: "vin2105" <phil_at_dml_alessandros120.com>

16. Re: Hard Rock Cafe Pin
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

17. Re: Hard Rock Cafe Pin
From: ROBLAMROCK_at_dml_aol.com

18. Re: Re: Online pictiorial procedures for regular maint.
From: jordan rubin <nuttenschleuder_at_dml_yahoo.com>

19. Re: Strange noise in enginebay
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

20. Florida get together
From: "geek123y" <ken_at_dml_techno-concepts.com>

21. Need headlight switch
From: "nbrommer2k" <nickbrom_at_dml_aol.com>

22. Canadian meet
From: "Marvin" <marv_at_dml_printeddrinkware.com>

23. Low end hesitation
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>

24. Re: Need headlight switch
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>

25. Re: Re: Online pictiorial procedures for regular maint.
From: Peter Lucas <lucas_at_dml_Maya.com>





Message: 1
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 22:23:43 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: A few probs: shifting stiff, wont go(sometimes) dot 4 leak? , gas, temp sens

Adjust the shifter linkage as per the Workshop Manual (You do have ine
right?). Replace the clutch master AND slave cyliners AND the plastic
hydraulic line connecting them.
 Check to see if the wire is attached to the temp sensor which is
located on the front of the engine on the right side.
 Get a Tankzilla if having an accurate fuel guage is important to you.
 The wobbly steering could be any or all of the following:
Bad tires (how old are they?)
Low tire pressures (the tire pressures on on the glove box door)
worn or bent steering and suspension parts
needs an alignment
bent rim
out of balance tire
 You should also check that the car has had the recalls done, upgrade
the relays and circuit breakers, get a Fanzilla or something to
replace the fan fail relay or the bypass, change ALL of the fluids,
belts, and hoses, and pressure test the cooling system.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "steve" <steve_at_dml_r...> wrote:
> MY DELOREAN's HISTORY
> ------------------------------
> Bought April 2003
> Previous Owner only drove it 600 miles in his 15 years of owning it. 
> He took good care of it.  It only had 16k miles when i got it.  
> 
> Current Problems Known-----------
> 
> 
> -5th gear is not easy to shift into. you have to slam it in after 55+ 
> speeds it seems.
> 
> -Sometimes I cannot get it into 1st gear or reverse.  I can feel it 
> rubbing against the spinning gear inside. Warren at DMC Texas said 
> the hydraulic fluid is leaking and there's a 154$ peice to fix that. 
> First of all, how full it the resuvior suppost to be? I got some more 
> dot 4 - the resuvior was already almost full, i only put in maybe a 
> table-spoon. it still does it sometimes, i filled it to right up 
> before the bottle neck.   remeber it only has 16k miles.
> 
> 
> -Engine Temp does not register
> (sensor? or thermometer itself)
> Where is the temp sensor? can i clean it?
> 
> -Gas tank meter only shows up to half tank at all times. ???
> 
> -Wobbly steering at 55+ speeds
> (probly just alignment?)
> 
> 
> Thanks email me at steve_at_dml_r...




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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 17:14:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Louie G <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Re: A few probs: shifting stiff, wont go(sometimes) dot 4 leak? , gas, temp sensors

Your shifter problem could be the roller pin, or something in the clutch hydraulics. My reservoir bottle has been as low as 3/4 full, and the car still shifts fine. It's still very possible that your car doesn't want to shift into the gears because there isn't enough pressure to release the clutch. If this is the case, you will have to replace your original plastic clutch line with a braided stainless one, and get new master and slave cylinders. The original plastic lines will expand under pressure in their old age, not allowing the clutch to disengage fully. Look closely behind your clutch pedal where the clutch linkage meets the master cylinder. If you see signs of leakage... you'll need a master cylinder as well. Again... leaking means you're not getting full pressure in your system. An adjustable clutch link is also a necessity in a DeLorean, IMO. This is a little gadget that attaches the clutch pedal to the master cylinder, and is adjustable for length... thus adjusting the amount of travel the master cylinder makes. I think John Hervey sells them www.specialtauto.com .

Your wobbly steering is possibly tires with flat spots... if the car was only driven 500 miles in 16 years, and the car still only has 16k on it, it's very possible you're still running on the original Goodyear NCTs... and they have flat spots from sitting for long periods of time.

You probably need a new tank sending unit... pick a Tankzilla up from PJ Grady if you want a bulletproof product www.pjgrady.com . I think that covers everything but your temperature gague.... I'll let someone else help you there.

Louie Golden
VIN 10115 Sanford, NC

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 21:19:33 -0400
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: RE: Delorean Owners Assosiation

Wow!  This has been an interesting thread to read!

I just have to add:
I never joined the DOA. (not cuase of anything that people told me
etc... Just cause I never really saw the need)

However..  I think the DML is an incredable resource!  You cant deny it!
Hundreds of members swapping stories, and information from ALL OVER THE
WORLD in almost real time... Its great!

True, some things are wrong, some things are stupid, some conversations
are silly, but you know what...  Sometimes I like to read things like
that.  It helps keep the forum from going stale.

DML is a great resource (and I am sure the the DOA is also) but me being
in Generation X instantly gravitate twords the high tech solution.  The
DML can be searched in just a few seconds, and typically yields the
information you need!

BTW: *Generation X includes birthyear 1960-1979 (Many people don’t
realize this fact, so I thought I would pop it in here.)  So all those
14-18 year olds out there who think they are GenX are wrong.  ;)


-----Original Message-----
From: rbrogren_at_dml_aol.com [mailto:rbrogren_at_dml_aol.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 1:03 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] Delorean Owners Assosiation


Regarding the DOA response to David Teitelbaum: 
Since Mr. Breer list himself as a Director of DOA one has to assume that
his 
response is indicative of the corporate culture and philosophy. The
first word 
that came to my mind was ARROGANT.

His statement says it all!
> We are not an altruistic group.   We exist to serve our members, not
> the DeLorean community at large.   We are always happy to receive 
> feedback from our members.   However, we pay no attention to those who

> are not Association members.
----How snobbish! But nice to know.

In his following statement it is abundantly clear that he does not know
much 
about DML and what makes it so valuable:
> This is my personal opinion:  There is a lot of bad advice given on 
> the DML by people who want to be a big fish in a small pond. There are

> incomplete answers to incomplete questions.   On the whole, I think
the 
> DML has done more harm than good for the DeLorean Community. It's only

> redeeming feature is that it is a forum for owners to communicate with

> each other. I just wish they had something useful to talk about.
----- Sour grapes!

- Yes, there may occasionally be some bad advice in DML, but it is
usually 
caught PDQ! And that is nothing compared to advice from some non-D
shops!
- Yes, there are incomplete questions! (A dumb statement to start out
with, 
after all; if the questioner was knowledgeable he/she wouldn't need to
ask in 
the first place!)
- Yes, there are some incomplete answers, HOWEVER, a thread has been 
established and others can, and generally do, chime in! On line or off
line and it is 
the final result that counts.
- Yes, I have to agree that at times there is some useless chatter here,
but 
there is an immense amount of experience behind many of the answers and
that 
certainly swings the scale in the right direction!

When I bought my D it came with an almost complete set of more than 12
years 
of the DOA magazine from the original owner. Yes, there was a lot of 
information in there for a neophyte owner and it took many hours of page
turning before 
I had a rudimentary index completed. I liked what I saw and became a DOA

member. I also tried to collect the missing issues in the magazine
collection, for 
a while. 
I found out about the DML fraternity early on and have obtained
immensely 
much more information here than in all other sources combined.

The unsung heroes are the DML Moderators. Who are the heroes at DOA?

Am I still a DOA member?
No, I did not think it was worth the cost and I didn't need another
glitzy 
magazine that was far different and lacking items of interest, compared
to the 
old ones that I have.

No, DOA is certainly not an altruistic group, but DML most assuredly is!

The animosity between the two is really a shame, because a positive
synergism 
  could be of mutual benefit to everybody involved. That will never
happen as 
long as arrogance rules on one side.

Carpe dium!
Roger


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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 19:11:05 -0400
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: Summer get together anyone!?

hi everyone....
 
I am having the dents in my door fixed soon, and all this bad weather
combined with the fact that my car was injured has made me miss driving
it.
 
Also, the Delorean Mid-Atlantic club has recently gained some new
members who have contacted me with many questions, and a desire to meet
other owners.
 
Putting all this together, I was wondering if anyone would like to do a
Summer "Fun Run" in Mid-late July.  Perhaps meeting somewhere in Central
NJ, and then going on a short road trip.  I would like our destination
to be some kind of a BBQ or nice outdoor resteraunt for a lunch or early
dinner.   This would give new members/owners a chance to 
 
Anyone who is interested respond to me directly!
 
Let me know soon, and I will start to work on something.  (Suggestions
are also welcomed)
 
Kevin Abato
Vin# 16680


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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 13:47:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vin 5386 <delorean_stainless_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: DMC Or LMC that is the question!

Somoene want to explin to this simpleton what the
difference was between these 2 companys. Oviously they
were connected. The font for DMC and LMC are the same
so I'm assuming a connection here. LOGAN MANUFACTURING
COMPANY? say who, what, where? Please don't tell me I
have to add an LMC to my DMC collection I DONT HAVE
ANY ROOM FOR A SNOW GRADER! but probally could use one
here in PA hmmmm.... Ponder this....

Todd
Vin 5386

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 02:14:37 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Re: Contents of Oil Pan (Engine Failure)

Usually antifreeze in oil gets whipped into milky white foam, but you
may not have run long enough for that to happen.

Fuel smell is probably from misfires. Cylinder full of water isn't
going to burn. Will dilute oil.

Of course watery oil may just be these light weight oils everybody
seem intent on running. Didn't object last time topic was raised, but
multi viscosity oil isn't worth 2 cents. Is nothing more than 5 or 10
weight oil (can you say "3 in 1") with wonder additives and elixers.
Ever notice guys at the track run straight oil, usually 40 or 50
weight? I'm not suggesting anything that thick, but you could do worse
than 30 weight. Wonder additives don't last, especially in a harsh
environment. Rear engine PRV qualifies as harsh. Is hotter than a
baker's oven back there.

Have you pulled any spark plugs yet? One indication of leaking head
gasket is rust on electrode. Of course you may not have run engine
long enough for that to happen.

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> I drained my oil pan to examine the contents before I started the 
> head gasket replacement.
> 
> There was around 2 gallons of fluid in the sump. It was the 
> consistency of water (or thinner) and just -rushed- out of the pan. 
> It smelled like fuel and had a greenish tint like anti freeze. I'm 
> glad I didn't run the engine long when all this happened. This stuff 
> had almost no viscosity, or lubricating properties.
> 
> Does this jive with anyone's symptoms of blown headgaskets?
> 
> 
> Rich
> #5335 -MD




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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 02:11:24 -0000
From: "steve" <steve_at_dml_redsquall.net>
Subject: Delorean Turbos, Twin Turbos? What, where, how much?

anyone know where one can get turbos/twin turbos that are either made 
for deloreans, or fit them? What, where, how much?




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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 02:46:45 -0000
From: "steve" <steve_at_dml_redsquall.net>
Subject: Any Owners in the Northern Indiana Area?

It'd be great to get together and work on our cars. I really want to 
get into the mechanical work.  Is their any kind of group around here 
that does that?  I finally got my D a month ago and it needs some 
attention with a few things. it's very drivable (only 16k miles). 
Anyway just wondering if the Owners around here did that sort of 
thing.




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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 20:02:07 -0700
From: "Ace Underhill" <aceu_at_dml_brilliantscreen.com>
Subject: Delorean Raffle

Hi everyone,
A non-denominational community church has contacted me about promoting a
fundraiser they are
having in which a refurbished Delorean will be raffled off to one lucky
person.  If you are one of
those on this list that signs their messages with: "VIN: Hopefully someday"
then you may be interested.
I believe the tickets are free with each $50 donation and there will only be
a limited number available,
so the odds of having a nice, shiny, DMC-12 in your garage this summer are
not astronomical.

If you are interested, please email me privately (don't reply to the DML)
at:
AceU_at_dml_BrilliantScreen.com  AceU(AT)BrilliantScreen.com with a subject of "Delorean Raffle".
I will then forward you the details on the drawing, as well as the car as
soon as they become
available to me.  I will double check with the administrator to see if you
can get more than one
ticket if you make multiple donations, so if you are interested in more than
one chance in the drawing,
please put the # you would like in your email as well.
Cheers,

          -Ace Underhill-
Brilliant Screen Entertainment




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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 01:49:46 EDT
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Hard Rock Cafe Pin

Has anyone seen the Hard Rock Cafe pin from Belfast with the DeLorean on it? 
I saw it on eBay and thought it was cool.
Oh yes.

John
4275


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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 15:26:13 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: DMC Or LMC that is the question!

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Vin 5386 <delorean_stainless_at_dml_y...> 
wrote:
> Somoene want to explin to this simpleton what the
> difference was between these 2 companys. Oviously they
> were connected. The font for DMC and LMC are the same
> so I'm assuming a connection here. LOGAN MANUFACTURING
> COMPANY? say who, what, where? Please don't tell me I
> have to add an LMC to my DMC collection I DONT HAVE
> ANY ROOM FOR A SNOW GRADER! but probally could use one
> here in PA hmmmm.... Ponder this....
> 
> Todd
> Vin 5386

LMC is an interesting topic. Since it's post trial, no much has been 
written about it. So here is the condensed, "in-a-nutshell" rundown.

Both DMC (DeLorean Motor Company), and LMC (Logan Manufacturing 
Company) are seperate companies, with no relation whatsoever, except 
for the fact that they're owned by John Z. De Lorean. I've gotten 
seperate reports, but I do believe that the company was acquired 
around the same time that DMC had it's beginings in the late 70's.

I'm not into industrial snow grooming equipment, so I don't know all 
of the specifics on the tractors. But from what I've read, the LMC 
groomers were quite popular in their time due to their ease of 
maintenance, and use of common, interchangable parts. Unfortunetly, 
the company ultimately went under, as a casualty of JZD's financial 
woes from his own laywers (and lack of proper reinvestment to make it 
salable).

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"




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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 10:46:51 -0700
From: Jeff Angwin <jeff_at_dml_coware.com>
Subject: Re: Woes

Since you are in Northern California, you might consider attending a 
meeting of the NCDMC. we meet monthly or so. There is a ton of Delorean 
expertise represented among the members, and I'm sure you can get some 
worthwhile advice on how to pick the right Delorean for you. At any one 
meeting we will have from 5 to 10 Deloreans in attendance, so if you 
have not had a chance to see a collection of D's in various states of 
restoration, it would be a great opportunity to do so. I see that you 
have looked into acquiring a painted D... One of the members has just 
finished stripping and regraining his once painted Delorean, so you 
could get some insight from him too.

Check out www.ncdmc.org for details and info about the next get 
together. We would be really happy to see you!

Jeff Angwin
VIN 3034



peteh269_at_dml_aol.com wrote:

>I called 2 places in town (No. Cal.) to take a look at a DMC that I might buy.  The first guy (volvo specialist) refused - saying they are way too hard to work on.  The 2nd guy (european\Volvo specialist) refused.  He said they are very difficult to put back and gave me an example of the HEAD from the head gasket fame.  Both advised me never to buy it.  What gives????  Now they spooked me into possibly not buying the car
>Pete
>
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 17:54:51 +0200
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>
Subject: Strange noise in enginebay

Hi,

While driving this afternoon all of a sudden I heard a strange
noise from the back, it sounded like a sort of "shrieky whistle"
and increased with giving more throttle.

First thing that came to mind was the blowoff from the cooling,
caused by a blown head gasket, so I stopped immediately...
My coolant was still in the system, under pressure and the
blowoff hose was dry. My oillevel was still right and there
was no foam evident on the oil...
I guess I can rule out the headgasket...
The temp on the Gauge was on the "7:30"position, where it's been
all day (runnning the A/C and driving no faster than 50mph...

When I listen in the engine bay and give throttle at the spool
the sound seems to come from the left front, with the covers
down it sounds like it's coming from the right rear :-S

My belts are both intact and under the right tension, the fins
on my Alternator are all straight and don't hit anything...

Could this "whislte" come from an exhaust gasket?
I have a leaky gastket between the right hand manifold and block
nearest the X-over pipe (will be fixed after next weekend),
could a gasket be "whistling"?

I really don't feel comfortable with my car right now; I drove it
home as it was only 20 miles, so a tow would be easy if neccesary.
The sound went away after a couple of miles, but returned when
I drove into my neighbourhood...

Next weekend there's an event I'm supposed to go to, but that's
125 miles from here, so I'd like to know what this could have been
before I drive off, running the risk of something REALLY going kaput.

I'm under my car anyway next wednesday, as I'm installing an extra speed
sensor on the driveshaft then, so I'd like to know where I should look.

It'd be a real shame if I had to get into my '92 Nissan next week,
to drive around next to cars that are 10 to 15 years older :-(

Thanks up front,

JAN van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

DMC-12 "Dagger" since Sep. 2000
100NX "Saphire" since Nov. 2002

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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 16:51:42 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Harada Power Antennae

I was searching for a replacement mast for a Harada antennae (the kind
used on the Deloreans). I contacted Harada directly and have been told
they are no longer providing aftermarket services. If you have a major
brand they will still provide the parts to the dealers and their parts
networks (like car dealers). What this means to us is that once the
parts inventory is used up Harada will no longer supply. They told me
PEP BOYS has a large inventory right now. I think we have to find a
replacement for Harada for the long term. In the meantime I am looking
for a black replacement mast, I think it is an RX-20. The other  # is
have is PRXMB-5. It is supposed to be the replacement mast for the
Harada MQB-2 power antennae? Also there must be someone else's mast
that would be a direct replacement? Does any other list member have
info on the power antennae?
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757




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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 17:12:39 -0000
From: "vin2105" <phil_at_dml_alessandros120.com>
Subject: Oil drain plug

When I pulled the oil drain plug out it turned out to not be a drain 
plug at all. It was a standard thread sparkplug thread saver 
plugged with a blot that had FIAT stamped on the head. 
someone had tried to JB Weld this mess in place so there was 
a huge blob of stuff where the oil plug should tighten up against 
the oil pan. 

Got it all cleaned up and a new drain plug of the proper size in 
place and all is good.

Also, a few months ago I posted in reference to only one cooling 
fan working. I finally tracked it down to one the wires that goes 
into the fan fail socket. It was installed in the slot that should be 
the ground tab.  I relocated one leg of the fan fail bypass and 
solved the issue. 




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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 13:55:47 EDT
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Hard Rock Cafe Pin

I have one that I got bought 
its a good size pin and looks nice

Ken


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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:30:00 EDT
From: ROBLAMROCK_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Hard Rock Cafe Pin

In a message dated 09/06/03 18:55:16 GMT Daylight Time, BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com 
writes:


> Has anyone seen the Hard Rock Cafe pin from Belfast with the DeLorean on 
> it? 
> I saw it on eBay and thought it was cool.
> Oh yes.

Anyone that's interested and I can mail one direct from Belfast for $20.

Robert Lamrock
Belfast


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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 06:55:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: jordan rubin <nuttenschleuder_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Online pictiorial procedures for regular maint.

I have anticipated those concerns as problem.  It is  quite a large task just maintaining te car, let alone document it.
 
As for the server space and picture resolution for dial up folks ill take a look at what could be possible to do.
 
Obviously there would have to be volunteers to do this  one peron alone could not.  A standard could however be set as to picture resolution and content.  Or even better, the person can just submit the large resolution pictures and an unformatted instructional.  where a volunteer could bring it to the web site standard and submit it to an official list.
 
Yes i imagine digital cameras would be most effective here.  I have a new sony one.  Ill make some sort of QUICK example and post it.  Ill send the link out to the DMCNEWS site
 
 
thanx
 
Jordan


David Teitelbaum <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net> wrote:
This is a great idea, who is going to do it? It is a lot of work just
fixing the car, even more to document it like you suggest. I think it
would take a collaberative effort of a mechanic doing the work and
someone whose job is just to take the pictures and do the web work. On
some of the simpler tasks it is already being done, just look at
Dave's tech tip on the door solenoids. It was a lot of work for a
relatively simple job. It also depends on the level of detail. Many
procedures assume some basic knowledge. It also will tax the web
server's resources, pictures take up a lot of room and with dial-up
connections it takes a long time to download.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "content22207" 
wrote:
> Remove upper air assembly. Have removed mine so many times I can have
> off car in 10-15 minutes. Of course I don't have air supply line to
> idle speed motor to contend with, which I imagine would slow process
> down. My fuel lines are hard steel, so I just remove banjo bolts in
> fuel distributor and leave them hanging in mid air. Press the air




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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 18:35:00 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Strange noise in enginebay

Check the two idler pulley bearings on the "vee" belt going to the A/C
compressor. You can actually remove the belt and run the motor. If the
noise goes away turn the pulleys by hand. They should turn smoothly
with no noise. The bearings in the pulleys can be replaced. Another
more expensive possability is the water pump. The bearings in it can
go bad and that will require replacement of the water pump. Exhaust
noises usually don't come and go, they just get worse slowly.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> While driving this afternoon all of a sudden I heard a strange
> noise from the back, it sounded like a sort of "shrieky whistle"
> and increased with giving more throttle.
> 
> First thing that came to mind was the blowoff from the cooling,
> caused by a blown head gasket, so I stopped immediately...
> My coolant was still in the system, under pressure and the
> blowoff hose was dry. My oillevel was still right and there
> was no foam evident on the oil...
> I guess I can rule out the headgasket...
> The temp on the Gauge was on the "7:30"position, where it's been
> all day (runnning the A/C and driving no faster than 50mph...
> 
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 18:42:29 -0000
From: "geek123y" <ken_at_dml_techno-concepts.com>
Subject: Florida get together

Just a reminder!!!
Sunday, June 15that 10:00 a.m. DeLorean owners are getting together 
in Florida from as far as England and California to meet and discuss 
their favorite subject…Deloreans.

So far we have a good response, if you are interested in attending,  
please email me for directions:  ken_at_dml_techno-concepts.com 

All are welcome! Thanks and see you there!!!





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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 19:19:01 -0000
From: "nbrommer2k" <nickbrom_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Need headlight switch

Anyone out there have a spare headlight switch? Mine won't stay 
engaged in the "on" position. Decent condition is fine enough, as 
long as it works!

Nick




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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:46:52 -0400
From: "Marvin" <marv_at_dml_printeddrinkware.com>
Subject: Canadian meet

Last call!

This is the weekend for fun, freebies, and meeting people with similar interests in sharing a dream and driving one! Come visit us in Canada for a DeLorean cruise, show and shine. We are a short 2 hour drive from Detroit.( or shorter, if you disregard the speed limit)

I have, on good information from a person on high, that the weather will be perfect in Canada this coming weekend. The snow has been gone for many hours ---- just joking ---- today is about 72 degrees, sunny and a little breezy. The trees are full with green fullness, the flowers are spectacular, and yesterday I went for a swim in the pool.

It appears we will double the get together we had 2 years ago, if everyone shows up. Cars will be here from Ohio, Michigan, N.Y., Ontario, St. Louis, Mo., 2 magazines will be represented, and who knows .....! We will have both stainless and painted cars here.

The cruise will be interesting and fun, lunch on the beach, fun dinner location, and lots of freebies, including a free custom printed beer stein, only for participants. 

Your cost to join us is zero. Just pay your own way.

Drive carefully......see you Friday night or early Saturday at the Best Western Lamplighter Inn on Wellington Road, London, Ontario. The cruise starts Saturday at 10 AM sharp!!

Marv.
# 17077
marv_at_dml_printeddrinkware.com 

Marvin Stein
Printed Drinkware Company
924 Dundas Street
London, Ontario, Canada, N5W 3A1
tel:         519-434-1666
fax:        519-434-7071
toll free: 1-866-725-4665
cell:       519-852-1667
email: marv_at_dml_printeddrinkware.com
website: printeddrinkware.com



     
     

 



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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 19:52:30 -0000
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>
Subject: Low end hesitation

Since last fall, my car has been having some low-end hesitation 
issues.  Those continued into this year, and resulted in mid-driving 
misses that convinced me I could not make it back to MN from Chicago 
4 weeks ago (but I did).

I figured the reason was a worn out ignition system, as the car has 
gone over 35,000 since the tuneup I gave it in spring of 2001.  This 
past weekend, I gave the car its wanted tuneup.  I replaced the fuel 
filter, Oxygen sensor, distributor cap/rotor, wires, plugs, and coil.

The car seemed to be running just fine this weekend when I was 
driving it around.  But last night it felt as if the low end 
hesitations were continuing.  Its most noticeable when I let the 
clutch out at low RPMs (approx idle).  It seems like it will be a 
smooth start, but twords the end of the clutch pedal travel, the car 
lurches, and misses severely.  It normally doesn't stall, but at WOT 
the engine will stay at about idle speed with no sign that it wants 
to speed up.  I need to disengage the clutch again to get the engine 
revving once again before I can get going.

Another problem I noted yesterday, is that upon rapid deceleration, 
in gear, with a closed throttle, if I disengage the clutch at low 
RPMs, the engine almost stalls, and if I disengage it around 1000 RPM 
or so the engine will stall.


A few other things to note about my car...

Valves were adjusted in September 2002.

There has been a fluxuating idle issue since fall 2001 that I've 
never been able to pinpoint.  (doesn't do it all the time, but is 
more of a fluxuation than the LAMBDA system should allow, A/C always 
smoothes it out, and never did it while cold)

There are ABSOLUTELY no vacumme leaks that I have been able to 
identify. (I've gone up and down every point of the engine more times 
than I can count)

Solenoid Valve is working as it should.

So with that said, suggestions?

Jim Reeve
MNDMC - Minnesota DeLorean Club
DMC-6960




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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 21:10:03 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>
Subject: Re: Need headlight switch

You probably won't find one this way. This is a unique-to-the-
Delorean part and has a pretty high failure rate. About $45 from the 
DMC places last time I bought one. . . 

Dave <--on my third one including the original

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "nbrommer2k" <nickbrom_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> Anyone out there have a spare headlight switch? Mine won't stay 
> engaged in the "on" position. Decent condition is fine enough, as 
> long as it works!
> 
> Nick




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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 19:35:19 -0400
From: Peter Lucas <lucas_at_dml_Maya.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Online pictiorial procedures for regular maint.

I would love to see more people spend the extra time to document their 
work for the benefit of the group. But, why reinvent the wheel? The 
DMCNews Techsection  (http://www.dmcnews.com/techmain.htm) is a 
well-established venue for this kind of thing. Dave Swingle does a 
great job of organizing and maintaining this resource and he is very 
responsive in helping contributors to get their works up promptly.  It 
is a fair amount of work to do a good job at this (what with cleaning 
the grease stains from your keyboard and all :-)), but knowing you've 
contributed your little bit to DeLorean posterity is pretty rewarding.

--Pete Lucas
   VIN #06703


On Monday, June 9, 2003, at 09:55  AM, jordan rubin wrote:

> I have anticipated those concerns as problem.  It is  quite a large 
> task just maintaining te car, let alone document it.
>
> As for the server space and picture resolution for dial up folks ill 
> take a look at what could be possible to do.
>
> Obviously there would have to be volunteers to do this  one peron 
> alone could not.  A standard could however be set as to picture 
> resolution and content.  Or even better, the person can just submit 
> the large resolution pictures and an unformatted instructional.  where 
> a volunteer could bring it to the web site standard and submit it to 
> an official list.
>
> Yes i imagine digital cameras would be most effective here.  I have a 
> new sony one.  Ill make some sort of QUICK example and post it.  Ill 
> send the link out to the DMCNEWS site


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