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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1582
Date: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:41 PM

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There are 12 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: #$_at_dml_! amatuer mechanics and matuer
From: Swoyerzone_at_dml_aol.com

2. Re: fuel filter and seal?
From: elvisnocita_at_dml_gmx.de

3. odd noise!!
From: Paul Salsbury <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>

4. ETDOC August in Gatlinburg, Tennessee
From: deloreanss_at_dml_aol.com

5. Re: odd noise!!
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>

6. Re: odd noise!!
From: Paul Salsbury <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>

7. fuel gage pegged straight up
From: "painintheass7565" <advantics_at_dml_aol.com>

8. Re: fuel filter and seal?
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

9. RE: Forgot the picture...
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_mchsi.com>

10. Re: odd noise!!
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

11. Diagnosis - Re: odd noise!!
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

12. Re: TV sighting
From: "dandan67" <dandan67_at_dml_yahoo.com>





Message: 1
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 02:18:49 EDT
From: Swoyerzone_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: #$_at_dml_! amatuer mechanics and matuer

I'm going to go feel them out hopefully on Monday, and see where they stand. 
I don't have much of an aggressive personality, but I'm going to see what they 
have to say, I did document the car with photos and notes of the condition 
compared to the original condition. So we'll see what happens, I did learn my 
lesson to wait I did it for almost a year, so we'll see what happens,

Darryl


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:10:41 +0200 (MEST)
From: elvisnocita_at_dml_gmx.de
Subject: Re: fuel filter and seal?

I had the same problem and used a teflon tape and it works perfect.
Don't ask me for a particular type, it's what I fond in my basement...

Elvis

> there since it wasn't a good day, but I went ahead and started on the fuel
> filter.
> It's back in, but I will have to pull it out again because the inlet angle
> adapter leaks. I thought I tightened it in enough, but no....
> So my question is: mega-tighten it down some more? or is there a plumber's
> tape (and particular type is fuel resistant?) I should be using on these
> threads? There is very little to seal this connection.



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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:25:27 +0100 (BST)
From: Paul Salsbury <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>
Subject: odd noise!!

I've acquired an odd noise!!

Best described as the sound of someone in a distant
room sucking the last dregs of a glass coke (ie
muffled) or the sound of water moving very fast under
pressure through a hose pipe.

Have you got the picture?

Now where's it coming from? Sounds like behind the AC
panel.

Any Ideas? I know its not the Air con as I don't have
any fitted.

I thought it it might be the fuel pick up..

Thanks

Paul
#6463

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:03:03 EDT
From: deloreanss_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: ETDOC August in Gatlinburg, Tennessee

Hey everybody, this is my last post before I go ahead and book the hotel 
rooms. I just want to make sure, now that we are closer to the date, that everyone 
is still interested in coming to Gatlinburg, August 9th for the get together. 
We are planning on driving the dragon, but getting there is going to be the 
adventure this time. The road to the dragon was washed out last month, so there 
will be a small detour. Good news is that I was out on the dragon last week 
and it seems to have been repaved since last time. If you are planning on 
attending the national Delorean Car Show next year, this will be a great 
oppurtunity to get a heads up on the area (and Ken Koncelik says he's gonna be there 
most likely). Just email me directly if you want to book a room. I will send 
rates and information when I hear from you. Hope to see you at the party.

John Weaver
DeLoreanSS_at_dml_Aol.com
ETDOC
RED DMC #10527


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 08:38:44 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>
Subject: Re: odd noise!!

Paul Salsbury wrote:

> I've acquired an odd noise!!
>
> Best described as the sound of someone in a distant
> room sucking the last dregs of a glass coke (ie
> muffled) or the sound of water moving very fast under
> pressure through a hose pipe.
>
> Now where's it coming from? Sounds like behind the AC
> panel.

This sounds like a vacuum leak from the AC selector switch.  Remember, that switch
selects both electrical connections and vacuum routes, regardless of whether you have air
conditioning or not.  Change positions of the switch and jiggle it.  If the sound changes
you've found your culprit.  But even if the sound doesn't change the problem could be the
vacuum inlet (actually air outlet) line.

The DML backissues feature many discussions of repairs to this system.

- Mike Substelny
VIN 01280  9 years




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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:51:53 +0100 (BST)
From: Paul Salsbury <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: odd noise!!

 --- Mike Substelny wrote: 

> This sounds like a vacuum leak from the AC selector
switch.  


Mike it's definately not a vacume leak, I've been
there and done that, and am quite confident I have no
leaks.

Paul
#6463

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:57:31 -0000
From: "painintheass7565" <advantics_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: fuel gage pegged straight up

My fuel gage is pegged full all the time. I changed the fuel sender 
but got the same results. The new sending unit is metal doesn't 
appear to have an opening to let fuel in the way the old plastic one 
did. Does anyone know how it works?

John Salva
Vin 1383 & 5326




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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:05:45 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: fuel filter and seal?

Be careful in the use of the teflon tape. Do not allow it to cover the
end of the fitting, it could block the flow of fuel. Stay back from
the end at least 1 thread. Do not get any pieces (shards) of the tape
into the fuel system. Do not overtighten the fittings, you could strip
the threads and in a rare case smash the end so that fuel cannot pass
through. There are cases in the past that were posted to the list that
said overtightening caused the fittings to cave in blocking the flow
of fuel. That may have been from the use of an incorrect filter or
maybe overtightening did cause it. In any case be very certain there
are NO leaks. The fuel is under a lot of pressure at that point and
even a minor leak will be dangerous. As fuel leaks get smaller
(especially when the fuel is under a lot of pressure) you won't even
see them, the fuel vaporizes as it escapes. The only hint will be the
smell. If it should ignite then it will become a miniature blow torch.
Without trying to scare you the fuel system can be a dangerous system
to work on if you do not take the proper precautions.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757  


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, elvisnocita_at_dml_g... wrote:
> I had the same problem and used a teflon tape and it works perfect.
> Don't ask me for a particular type, it's what I fond in my basement...
> 
> Elvis
> 
> > there since it wasn't a good day, but I went ahead and started on
the fuel
> > filter.
> > It's back in, but I will have to pull it out again because the
inlet angle
> > adapter leaks. 



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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 08:59:55 -0500
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_mchsi.com>
Subject: RE: Forgot the picture...

Gary,

Looks good.

Do you have any more pictures, perhaps some close-ups.

Scott Mueller
002981
RNDOLA


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Weaver II [mailto:gw2tulsa_at_dml_cox.net] 
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 7:19 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Forgot the picture...


Sorry about that... :)

Here is my Converted D... Nearly 100% movie accurate...

http://members.cox.net/bk2dftr/web_pictures/bigproject.jpg

-Gary Weaver II
Tulsa, OK



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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:54:14 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: odd noise!!

Noises are probably the hardest thing to help diagnose without
actually hearing them and being with the car. It could be a vacuum
leak, a leaking mode switch (again vacuum leak) or maybe you have air
in the cooling system and what you hear is the air going through the
heater core. Make sure that you have all the air bled out of the
cooling system and check all the vacuum hoses to see if any have been
knocked loose. 
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757 


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_l...> wrote:

> This sounds like a vacuum leak from the AC selector switch. 
Remember, that switch



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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:52:50 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Diagnosis - Re: odd noise!!

Disconnect and cap 3/8" vacuum line from passenger intake rail and see
if noise stops. That is vacuum line to front of car, which includes
power brake assist (be aware before driving car). If noise is vacuum
leak, will need to isolate further between HVAC mode switch or brake
booster. Is also a hard plastic line running from mode switch back to
heater core shut off valve that could be leaking.

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_l...> wrote:
> Paul Salsbury wrote:
> 
> > I've acquired an odd noise!!
> >



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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:12:00 -0000
From: "dandan67" <dandan67_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: TV sighting

Sorry I intended to post this before it aired but I forgot. They were 
pretty excited to include the D after the segment in my machine shop 
and I *hoped* it wouldn't get cut from the final edit. And yes, Gary 
really is that nuts (well mostly.)

Note that I declined to let the producers put him on my Segway. (And 
I did take the keys out of my D before they got in!)

Dan Danknick
Anaheim, CA



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, illyana delorean <illyana_at_dml_m...> wrote:
> Did any one else see the Delorean on last night's episode of "I'm 
With 
> Busey"? It didn't have too much air time (less than a minute), and 
it 
> was at the very end of the show - Gary and Adam got into it after 
> fighting the robots.
> 
> That's all!
> 
> illyana




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