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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1596
Date: Friday, July 25, 2003 10:00 AM

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There are 5 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Show in Pasadena Maryland
From: Jeremy Delaney <thesmokingman_at_dml_comcast.net>

2. Re: Copyright laws
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>

3. Re: Stainless Steel Illusion (Second Edition)$$$
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

4. Re: Stainless Steel Illusion (Second Edition)$$$
From: Sonny V <sonnyvr2000_at_dml_yahoo.com>

5. Re: Idle / Ignition system
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>





Message: 1
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 02:41:19 -0400
From: Jeremy Delaney <thesmokingman_at_dml_comcast.net>
Subject: Show in Pasadena Maryland

This is just a reminder about the British car show this Saturday,
July 26 at Downs Park in Pasadena Maryland (Just north of Annapolis).
There are two DeLoreans that are currently planning to attend.
As far as I know, this will be the first appearance of a DeLorean
at this show. It will be right on the water, so it should make
for an enjoyable day. Hope to see you there! -Jeremy Delaney

http://www.tracltd.org/

http://www.tracltd.org/show/Brits_By_The_Bay.html





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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:21:46 -0000
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Re: Copyright laws

All good points. 

I made some phone calls and was informed that when DMC Houston bought 
everything from KAPAC, that also included the copyright to the 
manuals.

The original DMC had never paid the publisher, so the manuals weren't 
released until -after- the company folded! When KAPAC bought 
everything from DMC, they paid the publisher and the manuals were 
released to them.

I have obtained permission from Houston to use sketches and quotes in 
a not-for-profit article. I've written the rough draft, but haven't 
inserted any visual aids yet. I'm having some people "in the know" 
proof read it for me.

Rich
--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Vin 5386 <delorean_stainless_at_dml_y...> 
wrote:
> Usually a credit is fine, though some publishers use a
> gag clause to limit this and one has to write for
> permission. I never use gag clauses in my publishing
> contaracts but others infact do. Do not assume that
> just because a company is no longer in business that
> the meterial falls under public domain. some contracts
> have a predetermined length of time. A document with
> writen permission is your best protection. If I cannot
> personaly aquire a writen and signed release from the
> said copywrite holder I will not use the quote. Just
> my .02 from a publisher :D
> 
> Todd
> Vin 5386
> --- cruznmd <racuti1_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> > What are the rules regarding material taken from the
> > DeLorean Workshop
> > Manual?
> > 
> > Do you just have to credit where the info came from?
> > Do you have to
> > get permission? Who from since the company is out of
> > business?
> > 
> > I want to incorporate a few quotes and sketches from
> > the manual into
> > an article I'm writing.
> > 
> > 
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:34:51 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: Stainless Steel Illusion (Second Edition)$$$

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Charlie g" <charlie_az_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> Im sorry but why mess with a allready good read..


Good book? Yes it is. Highly priced? You bet! So from my standpoint 
as a casual collector, that makes me quite happy. I've always wanted 
to own a copy myself, but the price has always been too high for me 
to justify. And of course, I'm looking forward to seeing the 
aforementioned "new" chapter the tells more of the man, the company, 
and of course the car.

Now then, there is also another added bonus to all of this. 
Hopefully, the book starts turning up in stores, and that'll really 
help put our cars into a positive light. Currently, there are not 
really any books with positive info about the DMC-12 available for 
sale, if any info at all last time I checked. So if suddenly, a brand-
new book appears on the shelf that contains more than a footnote 
about the DeLorean appears, and shows engineering, and "action shots" 
inside when people start to thub thru it, I'd most definately say 
that's going to grab their attention, if not inspire them to learn 
more about the car/want one.

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"




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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:10:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sonny V <sonnyvr2000_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Stainless Steel Illusion (Second Edition)$$$

Mess with a good read? What??!

The book ends with John DeLorean in jail and the
factory closed! Anyone reading it today may think
that's where the story ends. And that's if 
they can find one to read! My library doesn't even
have a copy, and every one I have seen on Ebay the
last couple months has been $100 or more.

As long as this one is using the original films, and
the addition looks good, I don't think they're messing
with anything.

And with DMCH selling the updated ones for just $40,
I'll probably buy one to GIVE to my local library. Hey
James, how about a discount if I buy two - one for my
public library and one for me?

Sonny

 
> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 21:12:18 -0000
> From: "Charlie g" <charlie_az_at_dml_hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Stainless Steel Illusion (Second
Edition)
> 
> Im sorry but why mess with a allready good read..
> 
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:10:13 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Re: Idle / Ignition system

Actually what you're seeing is the ignition at work. Whenever the coil
loses its ground (controlled by ignition module), high tension current
builds up lightning fast, then is discharged to a spark plug as rotor
passes its terminal. If the coil were grounded all the time, no
current would ever build up.

Ignition module and tachometer take their signal from small wire
(blue? I'm at work and can't remember color) that passes from
distributor to compartment behind driver seat.

Take it easy grabbing ignition wires. While coil ground is only 12
volts, HT wires can be as much as 100,000 on newer cars. Even stock
DeLo is 18,000 or so (which I highly recommend bumping up at least to
40,000).

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, doctorDHD_at_dml_a... wrote:
> OK, while playing around with the ignition / idle system of 6530 I
noted 
> something very interesting.  As I previous stated, the tachometer
makes small 
> jumps upward, intermittently.  I accidentally touched the wire that
goes to the 
> negative side of the ignition coil primary circuit (color WS) and
noted that I 
> was getting intermittent shocks.  These shocks were at the same time
that the 
> tach jumped!  When I connected a small neon bulb (i.e., an NE-2 for you 
> engineering types), the bulb would blink intermittently along with
the jumping of the 
> tach. (Hey I got fed up with getting jolted so I substituted the bulb 
> instead.) Remember that the engine RPM is NOT jumping only the tach
is.  I suppose 
> the tach is getting these voltage spikes and that is why it is
jumping and maybe 
> these spikes are affecting the idle ECU controller.  The spike occur
only at 
> low RPM up to about 1400 rpm.
> 
> Does anyone have a clue as to what to do next?
> 
> Dave & 6530 thank you...
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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