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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1614
Date: Friday, August 08, 2003 9:04 AM

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There are 9 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Delorean parting out parts available
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

2. JZD's comments about GULLWING Magazine...
From: gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com

3. My New DeLorean (VIN 1063) and Fuel Pump Pickup Repair
From: "hodakaguy" <hodakaguy_at_dml_yahoo.com>

4. What are the Best Tires to Go with for a DeLorean?
From: "hodakaguy" <hodakaguy_at_dml_yahoo.com>

5. GULLWING Magazine cover photo in Downtown Pulse newsmagazine!
From: gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com

6. fuel tank access panel
From: "painintheass7565" <advantics_at_dml_aol.com>

7. damaged fiberglass shell for sale
From: "erikgeerdink" <erikgeerdink_at_dml_yahoo.com>

8. Information about retroserver delorean website
From: jordan rubin <nuttenschleuder_at_dml_yahoo.com>

9. Re: Delorean parting out parts available
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 14:41:48 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: Delorean parting out parts available

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Card" <stephen_at_dml_p...> wrote:
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Vin 5386 <delorean_stainless_at_dml_y...> 
> wrote:
> > Sort of sad actually. Always pains me to see another D
> > go this route :(
> Your looking at it all wrong.  Look at it as an organ donor.  
Through 
> the "transplanting" of these parts many cars can benefit! Painful 
> would be a carcrusher and a useless block of metal at the end.
> Keep looking for the positive,
> Stephen

Problem is, organ donation only happens after a donor is dead! 
Doctors don't look at patients and say, "Well gee, it's going to take 
much more work than I'm willing to put in to save your husband's life 
Mrs. Jones. But don't feel bad, 'cause we're going to part out his 
vital organs, so that other people may live. So don't feel so bad 
about the loss." And that is exactly what was said here, looking at 
this quote from the original post:

Quote directly from Ken K, owner of the doomed car: "Well Vin 5690 
has been with me for about 3 weeks and I have gone through the 
emotions of rebuilding, refurbishing, or parting it out. After 
looking at the options this could be a $5000 car that cost $15K to 
fix and result in a $14K car that still has a way to go. So it is 
going the e-bay route."

>From what has been described, this isn't a car that's had any 
devistating damage to it from a wreck, or a fire. It doesn't appear 
to even have a wasted chassis from rust damage. It is simply a car 
that needs an intense passion to fuel it's restoration. Someone who 
is more concerned with owning/keeping a DeLorean on the road, rather 
than what the monetary value of the car will be once a restoration is 
complete, as quoted above.

To Ken K: I'm not trying to attack you, but I do disagree with you on 
both points: 1. The end value of the car can be much higher than what 
you are anticipating. NADA right now puts fully restored/original 
vehicles at a value of almost $28,000. Yes, it will require an 
immense amount of work, but it can be done. 2. The car is worth 
saving. Even I realize that you can't just store a car until that 
perfect owner comes along wanting to restore it. And classic cars 
needing this much work won't always sell as quickly as road 
operational ones, especially automatics. But this could easily have 
been avoided simply by not purchasing the car. Which is the absolute, 
#1 cardinal rule when looking to buy a DeLorean. And if we learn 
nothing else, always remember it: *ALWAYS* inspect a car that you 
will potentially be buying IN PERSON FIRST BEFORE COMMITING TO 
PURCHASE! Words to live, and drive by.

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 10:41:33 -0500
From: gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com
Subject: JZD's comments about GULLWING Magazine...

Here's what "the man" himself, John Z. DeLorean said about the last issue
of GULLWING Magazine...

"Great cover, it's very well done, very visual, I enjoy it."
-JZD

We were pleased to receive the compliments from Mr. DeLorean, and we will
continue to provide a quality publication for the DeLorean community.

Sincerely,
Ron and Cheryl Wester
GullwingMagazine(at)juno.com



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 15:51:12 -0000
From: "hodakaguy" <hodakaguy_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: My New DeLorean (VIN 1063) and Fuel Pump Pickup Repair

I just picked up my DeLorean. Vin 1063. Looking forward to talking 
with other DeLorean owners. 

Last night I replaced the Fuel Pickup Tube and the Rubber seals 
around the fuel pump. The little metal stud that is attached to the 
bottom of the tank that holds down the Fuel Pump pickup assy. had 
came unattached from the bottom of the tank. I thought about using 
some sort of Glue to reattach it to the bottom of the tank but I was 
worried about the glue breaking down once it was submerged in 
gasoline. I ended up draining the tank completely then running a 
purge of argon gas into the tank to eliminate the chance of a fire. 
Then I heated up the little metal disk with the stud on it and 
pressed it back into the plastic at the bottom of the tank. It formed 
new plastic "rivets" like the originals and attached itself nicely. 
At least I won't have to bother with any glue. Is there another way 
people fix these also? I'll add pics of the process to my Pics. page 
soon. 

I picked the car up in LA California from the original owner on 
Monday. I drove it home the 1200 miles to WA state without incident. 
The only problem that I had was it quit me once becouse of the fuel 
pump pickup tube collapsing. I was at 1/4 tank and it was 110 Deg F. 
when it happened. I re-filled the tank and the problem went away. 
We'll see how long the new pickup tube lasts. If I have to take it 
apart again I will install a spring inside the tube to keep it from 
collapsing, I read about that mod on another site and it looks like 
it would work great. 

UPDATE: Well, I drove the car a few hundred miles accross the state 
the next morning after doing the fuel pump pickup tube replacement 
and right as I was arriving I started smelling gas again. I removed 
the access cover to the fuel pump again and found that the pump 
itself had failed and was spraying a small stream of gas into the 
upper part of the boot where the electrical connections are for the 
pump. It was spraying out of the top of the pump where the pump is 
crimped. I located another pump and changed my old long neck pump 
over to the newer style short neck pump. Now everything seems to be 
happy with the fuel system for the time being. Now just the drive 
back home :-) Tom C.




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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 15:59:11 -0000
From: "hodakaguy" <hodakaguy_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: What are the Best Tires to Go with for a DeLorean?

Hello.  I'm looking at new tires for the DeLorean and was wondering 
what would be the best to go with.  I currently have Yokohama AV1 
tires on it but I've been told they are no longer available in our 
sizes.  Would the Michelin Pilot XGT H4 be a good tire to go with? 
They are available in a matched set.  What are you running and how do 
you like them?  Thanks in Advance.  Tom C.




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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 11:40:42 -0500
From: gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com
Subject: GULLWING Magazine cover photo in Downtown Pulse newsmagazine!

The folks at River City Autofest in Evansville, Indiana loved GULLWING
Magazine's photo (from last fall's event) of "a dozen DeLoreans" on the
front cover of Issue 1.

They're using the photo in their September/October issue of the Downtown
Pulse newsmagazine, which has a distribution rate of 98,000, to help
promote the event this year.

For more information regarding the 7th Annual River City Autofest -
Downtown Evansville (September 26-28), please visit
www.DowntownEvansville.org or call (821) 424-2986.

It's three days of Family Fun... hope to see you there!

Your friends at GULLWING Magazine,

Ron and Cheryl Wester
GullwingMagazine(at)juno.com

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 16:45:48 -0000
From: "painintheass7565" <advantics_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: fuel tank access panel

My access panel under my "D" looks like a piece of swiss cheese. Does 
anyone know if they are available new and how much would one cost?

John 5386 & 1383




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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 18:21:45 -0000
From: "erikgeerdink" <erikgeerdink_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: damaged fiberglass shell for sale

I have a damaged fiberglass shell for sale.  It was hit in the front 
passenger side.  If anyone is seriously interested in it please let 
me know.  Buy needs to pick the item up or I can possibley trailer 
it to you for a fee.  Please email me privately if interested. 

Thanks,
Erik





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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 13:38:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: jordan rubin <nuttenschleuder_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Information about retroserver delorean website

hello all,


Ive heard that some check the page and there is no
response.  The server is always running 24-7.  The
problem is deutsche telekom likes to change the IP
address several times a day.  I have a script that
will update the domain to the correct IP but only once
every 10 minutes.

If the telekom changes the IP 1 minute after the
interval of the script, the site will be down for 9
minutes.  Just try back about 10 minutes later and all
should work fine.

thanx

Jordan 11613

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 17:31:52 EDT
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Delorean parting out parts available

In a message dated 8/7/2003 6:53:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
stephen_at_dml_procomroofing.com writes:

> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Vin 5386 <delorean_stainless_at_dml_y...> 
> wrote:
> >Sort of sad actually. Always pains me to see another D
> >go this route :(
> Your looking at it all wrong.  Look at it as an organ donor.  Through 
> the "transplanting" of these parts many cars can benefit! Painful 
> would be a carcrusher and a useless block of metal at the end.
> Keep looking for the positive,
> Stephen
> 
I have been getting a lot of comments on this but for people that know me 
they understand that this car is just too far gone to make it feasable to 
refurbish.  There are a few well know long term project cars on this list that we all 
know of and I am sure it is rewarding for those involved but time and money 
are the issue and while I can fix it I do not have the time.  Others that have 
looked at it as a refurb  also have stated the cost is too high so this car 
will allow others to live.

The panels are perfect

Ken


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