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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1619
Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 8:59 AM

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There are 9 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: DELOREAN FRONT SHOCKS ON EBAY (Monroe & KYB)
From: "davvet2" <davvet2_at_dml_yahoo.com>

2. Re: ground to what?
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

3. Re: DELOREAN FRONT SHOCKS ON EBAY (Monroe & KYB)
From: "davvet2" <davvet2_at_dml_yahoo.com>

4. looking for a dmc in boston
From: "dsstriker" <dsstriker_at_dml_yahoo.com>

5. Re: Digest Number 1618
From: grex37_at_dml_aol.com

6. RE: Any DeLorean owners in Eastern WA State, I live in Zillah
From: "D F" <funkstuf_at_dml_hotmail.com>

7. Re: Delorean raffle
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

8. Living the Dream,,and making it possible for others
From: "fivetwofive" <CBL302_at_dml_msn.com>

9. Upper ball joints
From: "Stephen Jaeger" <sjaeger_at_dml_comcast.net>





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 02:04:18 -0000
From: "davvet2" <davvet2_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: DELOREAN FRONT SHOCKS ON EBAY (Monroe & KYB)

I've been away for awhile, so I didn't see your post.
Did anyone have part numbers so I can look at them and measure them 
before buying?

Thanks,

Jim



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "K. Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_m...> wrote:
> wow, there's an echo on this list...
> I asked that question about three weeks ago. Where were you?
> 
> The answers, all three of them, were 1) ok, or 2) trash.
> Very helpful wasn't it? Opinions, people. We want your honest 
opinions on
> the shocks you are running on your car. Please respond. Now. Or we 
will be
> forced to come and drive your car and decide for ourselves!!
> 
> Thanks...
> -K
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: davvet2 [mailto:davvet2_at_dml_y...]
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 3:06 PM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DML] DELOREAN FRONT SHOCKS ON EBAY (Monroe & KYB)
> 
> 
> Has anyone on the list bought and installed the Monroe or KYB shocks
> that have been sold on Ebay? They are said to be a direct
> replacement, and easy install. I need to replace mine, and don't 
want
> to have to use washers, etc. and want something less expensive than
> the Girling OE shocks.
> 
> If anyone has the part numbers for these shocks it would be greatly
> appreciated, so I can look at them before buying.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 02:19:48 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: ground to what?

Every panel is electrically connected together. Without getting to
technical it is to optimize the performance of the radio. For
practical purposes it doesn't seem to matter all that much. I do
recomend that you do try to reconnect it though. There are also little
wires under the outer door seals on the front left and right door
posts up near the top. More important is to make sure that the
restraining brackets line up with the bumper bolts on the bonnet. They
are supposed to catch on the bolt in the event of a head-on crash
keeping the bonnet cover (hood) from intruding into the passenger
compartment through the front windscreen.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> The ground at the base of the hood (bonnet) on the drivers side that
comes up
> from the quarter panel . . . what does this ground? 
> 
> I've just discovered mine is detached, don't know for how long and I
want to
> check what ever it goes to that it is all OK.
> 
> Shannon Y
> 16506
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 02:46:36 -0000
From: "davvet2" <davvet2_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: DELOREAN FRONT SHOCKS ON EBAY (Monroe & KYB)

Thanks, Robert

That was good information, especially the Vixen info on the shocks.

I'm not absolutely sure that I have a shock problem; when I had the 
front tires replaced the tech said the old ones had "strut wear".
I have a vibration/shimmy that starts at about 45 MPH, and the new 
front tires didn't fix it. I'm going to try the newest computer 
balancing machine and see what happens.

Jim




-- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_l...> 
wrote:
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "davvet2" <davvet2_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> > Has anyone on the list bought and installed the Monroe or KYB 
shocks 
> > that have been sold on Ebay? They are said to be a direct 
> > replacement, and easy install. I need to replace mine, and don't 
want 
> > to have to use washers, etc. and want something less expensive 
than 
> > the Girling OE shocks.
> > 
> > If anyone has the part numbers for these shocks it would be 
greatly 
> > appreciated, so I can look at them before buying.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Jim
> 
> I don't know that these are the same exact shocks, but after reading
> this, I wouldn't waste my time buying them.
> 
> http://projectvixen.com/week09.htm
> 
> For literaly the same price, PJ Grady, and Marty Maier over _at_dml_ Mid
> State DeLorean club offer their own performance shock kits. And for
> not much more either, price wise. Plus, it comes with adjustable, 
rear
> shock collars so you can also lower the rear end as well.
> http://www.midstatedmc.com/parts/shocks.html
> 
> Stick with buying you DeLorean parts like this from people who've
> taken the time to research the compatability, and are not some
> fly-by-night eBay'er who is getting their information from an old,
> outdated cross-over list.
> 
> Also, take note that this same seller "szyszek", is one who has been
> seen selling non-DeLorean parts in the past on eBay, and trying to
> pass them off as compatabile (see the previous discussion about the
> "air valve").
> 
> -Robert
> vin 6585 "X"




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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 03:13:30 -0000
From: "dsstriker" <dsstriker_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: looking for a dmc in boston

(Moderator's note: there are a number of DeLoreans listed for sale at the DMC News web site. )

hi everyone, just posting to see if there are any automatic dmcs for 
sale at the moment. Looking for one in the boston area, high miles 
ok, not heavily motified is preferred. Want to use for daily driving. 
Let me know, thanks




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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 23:43:46 EDT
From: grex37_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1618

In a message dated 8/11/2003 9:55:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com writes:


With all the debate about cars being scrapped (parted out) for various parts, 
I have been wondering: are all replacement parts for deloreans on the market 
original? I thought the texas facility was actually producing some parts, 
because after all, they do completely refurbish DeLoreans. Which parts are not 
being manufactured currently at all besides the main chassis/frame; I know they 
don't make these anymore. Because I, like many, just shudder at some DeLoreans 
being parted out. After all, only like 6000 are out there, and we can't "Live 
the Dream" forever, but we can for as long as we have the parts to keep 'em 
running. Maybe over time, the texas facility will make all the parts involved 
for the DeLorean and some may do a "hot rod" project to build them from scratch! 
But hey, let's be honest: we have no right to tell other owners what they can 
do to their cars. We can persuade, and hopefully an owner will think long and 
hard before doing such a thing. At the same time though, it isn't such a 
horrible thing because at least that particular DeLorean being parted out is going 
to keep other ones running. Now, if a De is going to a junk yard, THEN its 
time to hollar! lol take care guys.

John C.


  Subject: RE: Re: Parts Available
> 
> 
> I understand Robert's passion, but I still disagree with it. This is a free 
> country, and a person is allowed to do what they want, and when they want in 
> this situation, without receiving harassment or extended debates from others. 
> If a person wants to buy a car and part it out to make a few bucks, 
> regardless if this is the case or not in this situation, then they are allowed to do 
> this; even if it against your morality to do so. I think the ambition here to 
> save every DeLorean would be better placed in another cause like save the 
> children, save the Siberian Tigers, or save the kitty cats and puppies in the 
> ASPCA from being put to sleep. Again, although the DeLorean is a unique and 
> wonderful car, it's still just that at the end of the day; a car. (I've already 
> defined what a car is so I don't have to go into that again.) And at this 
> time, there are still thousands of them out there to be owned, and I would 
> guess that the majority of them need to be restored. There are PEANTY of them to 
> choose from for whoever wants one. There probably aren't even enough new 
> replacement parts available to resore all of the basket cases out there. If you 
> disagree with me, fine. Let's just agree to disagree and move on. 
> 
> Thank you!
> 



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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 04:47:21 +0000
From: "D F" <funkstuf_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Any DeLorean owners in Eastern WA State, I live in Zillah

To all of you Eastern, WA owners,
I would like to collect your all names and numbers.
I live in Zillah, WA
email funkstuf_at_dml_hotmail.com
Dale Funk cell phone 509 728-0409
'81 delorean
4984


>From: "Arnie Brandon" <arnie_at_dml_pndc.org>
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [DML] Any DeLorean owners in Eastern WA State
>Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 11:35:44 -0700
>
>Tom, The Pacific Northwest DeLorean Club (PNDC) lists twelve (12) current
>member/owners plus other non-members within 150 miles of your town.  Check
>the PNDC web-site at www.pndc.org for additional info.
>Arnie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hodakaguy [mailto:hodakaguy_at_dml_yahoo.com]
>Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:00 AM
>To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [DML] Any DeLorean owners in Eastern WA State
>
>
>Hello.  I live in Kennewick WA, just wondering if there are any other
>owners in the eastern WA area?  Tom C.
>
>Vin# 01063
>WA
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:54:36 EDT
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Delorean raffle

OK 

Yes I am raffling off a DeLorean if I can get a few things worked out 

I have purchased a DeLorean but have not picked it up yet so I haven't seen 
it.

The pictures looked great,

It has under 4000 miles and I believe it is a 5 speed (picture not clear)

Good frame good panels and looks nice.

I have however bought three other cars that looked good (not the parts car) 
and while the cleaned up great they were too costly to raffle.  I think this 
one will work.

Price for each ticket is not determined yet but it will be given away at 
Pigeon Forge as long as I reach a realistic minimum ticket sales.  

The winner does not need to be present to win.
Winner pays taxes and shipping but does not have to take possession at the 
show due to travel etc.  

The car will be gone over and anything that needs fixing will be dealt with.

I will know more in a month when I go pick it up
I don't have room now.

So yes it is true this is a full sized real working DeLorean for raffle and 
someone will win it at Pigeon Forge next year.
If John is there maybe he can sign it.  As of last week in talking to Kathryn 
he is still planning to so keep fingers crossed.

Tickets will be available on the registration form starting in DEC.

Hope this answers you questions.

Ken





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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 05:03:36 -0000
From: "fivetwofive" <CBL302_at_dml_msn.com>
Subject: Living the Dream,,and making it possible for others





<--------Eventually, the right person will come along. A
person who wants to take on the challenge. Maybe it'll be because of
an intense passion for the car. Maybe it's someone who's looking for
this major of a car restoration, and they happen to spot this car, and
want it. Who knows. The point is that the best thing for the car is to
let it be. Give it time, things will click together-------------------
---->


I was one of those guys that TOOK on the Challenge,and saved what 
would have become a parts Delorean(as the most expensive parts on the 
car were damaged)but I restored it(this was back in 1987)and because 
of MY CHALLENGE,and determanation,not to see another Delorean Bite 
the dust,This Delorean has SEEN another SIXTEEN YEARS of service and 
given at LEAST FIVE (that I Know of) other owners the Joy of owning a 
Delorean,which now resides in(the UK) Great Britian,(and the latest 
owner is on this list),Because of my sole act,of not parting out this 
car(1983 Delorean)at least 5 people,besides myself,have had the 
chance and the oppertunity to "Live the Dream" And this car will 
generate future "new" owners,(when the latest owner sells)that will 
also Live the Dream,in the UK,which again would not have 
happened/been possible,if back in 1987,I had decided to part it 
out.My whole POINT HERE is what you do NOW,may change someone's 
history on owning a Delorean.As I have stated,those Five owners after 
me,and EXPECALLY the two U.K. owners would not have had the 
oppertunity,to own Vin#1668_)
And missed out on the joyes of Delorean ownership.

Claude
00570 

P.S.
Vin 00570 would positively not existed today,If I had Not "saved it" 
also Saved Three other Deloreans.But,had owned TWO others that were 
100% parts only.

Claude  





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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:01:58 -0700
From: "Stephen Jaeger" <sjaeger_at_dml_comcast.net>
Subject: Upper ball joints

I will be replacing my upper ball joints shortly and I know I will have to cut off the four pins/studs holding the old ones in place. Can someone recommend the type (grade) and size of bolts to use on the new ball joints? Also, the torque to tighten them to?

Thanks for your help.
Steve


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