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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1624
Date: Friday, August 15, 2003 9:18 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. To all GULLWING subscribers...
From: gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com

2. Wanna see your car in the 2004 DeLorean calendar?
From: gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com

3. Stripe Removal
From: Tom Watkins <dmctom_at_dml_earthlink.net>

4. Re: Trailer co-op to Pigeon Forge
From: Paul Salsbury <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>

5. Project Car Available *Update*
From: "media1524" <brentlun_at_dml_netrax.net>

6. Re: AC condensation drain and coolant leak
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>

7. Re: Looking for engine shop in MD
From: Dmc3360_at_dml_aol.com

8. Images of Torsion Bar adjustment
From: "Gary Weaver II" <gw2tulsa_at_dml_cox.net>

9. Re: Images of Torsion Bar adjustment
From: Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman_at_dml_fuse.net>

10. Re: Looking for engine shop in MD
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

11. DML and Lucas, Prince of Darkness
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

12. Fuel Pump
From: "anaheim_21" <anaheim_21_at_dml_yahoo.com>

13. Re: Fuel Pump
From: "Toby Peterson" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>

14. WA Car show in Cle-Elum on Saturday. Any Deloreans going?
From: "hodakaguy" <hodakaguy_at_dml_yahoo.com>

15. Re: Fuel Pump
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

16. New Tires finally on, and some Misc. Maint Items
From: "hodakaguy" <hodakaguy_at_dml_yahoo.com>

17. RE: Images of Torsion Bar adjustment
From: "Gary Hull" <Gary_at_dml_IN2TIME.com>

18. Getting new tires--Special way to lift the DeLorean???
From: "p12c16" <p12c16_at_dml_yahoo.com>

19. Re: Looking for engine shop in MD
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>

20. Delorean as 80's Collectible Carlisle Article
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com

21. RE: Re: Positive Story about the DeLorean
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com

22. RE: Project Car Available
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com

23. Flux capacitor reference photos
From: "supermattthehero" <supermatty_at_dml_psu.edu>

24. Clutch line replacement and cause of backfire?
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>

25. Re: Looking for engine shop in MD
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>





Message: 1
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:11:42 -0500
From: gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com
Subject: To all GULLWING subscribers...

The latest issue of GULLWING Magazine is on the way.

All orders were mailed August 13th or earlier.

Thanks and enjoy!

Ron and Cheryl Wester
GullwingMagazine(at)juno.com

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:13:12 -0500
From: gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com
Subject: Wanna see your car in the 2004 DeLorean calendar?

We're getting ready to start working on the 2004 DeLorean calendar, and
are requesting that photos be submitted as soon as possible.  Many of you
have had a chance to get your cars out to various shows this summer, and
hopefully got the opportunity to take some great pictures as well.

If you'd like to submit your photos for consideration, please e-mail them
to GullwingMagazine(at)juno.com, and include your name, city in which you
live, city or brief explanation where the photo was taken, owner of car
(if not your own), and photographer (if someone other than yourself). 
300 dpi or greater resolution and single car, peopleless photos
preferred.

Our goal is to have the calendar available well before Christmas with a
preview in the fall issue of GULLWING Magazine, so we're accepting photos
now.  Thanks for your prompt attention and participation.

BTW, if your photo is chosen, your calendar is FREE!  Remember... only 12
will make the cut, so send them in as soon as you can!

Thanks again,
Ron and Cheryl Wester
GullwingMagazine_at_dml_juno.com

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 07:28:13 -0400
From: Tom Watkins <dmctom_at_dml_earthlink.net>
Subject: Stripe Removal

Good question.  But not to fear!!  My first car had the stripe on it and 
I didn't like it.  Instructions I got from Don at DeLorean Motor Center 
in CAlifornia were the following:   It is simply glued on, take a hair 
dryer and start slowly by heating it up to loosen the glue.  Start 
peeling....That's it.  If it does leave any residue on the car it is 
easily removed with a blending pad that can be bought from any vendor or 
use a green 3M  scotch brite pad.   I did it and it worked fine, you 
would never tell it had a stripe

Good Luck
Tom
#5732





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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:53:04 +0100 (BST)
From: Paul Salsbury <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Trailer co-op to Pigeon Forge

Would be just Like Belfast 22 years ago. Some
reenactment of history hey?? 

Now think of this 
> In an uncovered transport imagine the sight on the
> road with a car hauler 
> full of 10 DeLoreans.   
> 
> What a thought
> 
> 
> Thanks Dick
> 
> 
> Ken


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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:30:07 -0000
From: "media1524" <brentlun_at_dml_netrax.net>
Subject: Project Car Available *Update*

Thanks to those who responded, I will keep your emails and keep you 
posted on the status of VIN #3954.

The bad news:  The service station where the car is located is 
changing companies and the entire lot is going to be repaved so the 
car must be out by next Friday.

The good news:  I have found a place to move the car to where it 
won't be vandalized.  I spoke with PENNDOT and was told that they 
will accept a notarized court order awarding ownership of an 
abandoned car in a title transfer.  

There's hope yet, now on to the court order.

Brent Lundgren
York, PA




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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:09:06 -0000
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>
Subject: Re: AC condensation drain and coolant leak

I have pointed out the water drain tube in a photo I have in the 
FILES section of YahooGroups.  It is called AC_Accumulator.jpg.  
You'll note that mine is pointed down.  I did that.  When I first got 
the car it was resting horizontally on the frame, and was also 
plugged.

As for your coolant leak, you may want to check the heater hoses 
coming out of the back of the engine, or the aluminum coolant pipe 
where the ribbed heat stove pipe passes by it.  Its possible 
vibration could have filed a pinhole leak into the coolant pipe.  It 
did with my car.

Jim Reeve
MNDMC - Minnesota DeLorean Club
DMC-6960

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "a230sl" <a230sl_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> I have noticed that after a drive with the AC on in our very humid 
> weather, the car "drips" a lot of clear condensation.  Mine is 
coming 
> off the lower gas tank plate in several locations.  I am assuming 
> there is a drain hose for this, but what is the routing of this 
> hose?  Mainly, where does it exit the frame?  Does it protrude 
below 
> the frame somewhere?  Or just fall onto the lower gas tank plate?





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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:10:05 EDT
From: Dmc3360_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Looking for engine shop in MD

I was contacted by a gentleman named Jamie we had met at The British Car Day 
Show in Bowie, MD a couple years ago.  He has a Lotus and import car repair 
shop.  What area were you looking in?  In any event email me directly if you are 
in that area and would like the info.  I don't know how the shop is but he 
said he worked on DeLoreans.  If you are having that type of engine trouble you 
may want to make the trip to PJ Grady if it is deemed to be serious.

Gary Gore
Vice President
DeLorean Mid Atlantic
www.deloreanmidatlantic.com

> My engine has been tapping recently at idle...and I have a sinking 
> suspicion its a rocker arm.  I want to know if anyone on the list has 
> had any experience with shops in MD with this kind of work.  I am 
> located in the Frederick area and work in Rockville (near DC).
> 
> Thanks,
> Bruce Duncan



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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 14:13:34 -0000
From: "Gary Weaver II" <gw2tulsa_at_dml_cox.net>
Subject: Images of Torsion Bar adjustment

Alrighty, I know HOW to do it, but I was wondering if anyone had an 
image of the Torsion Bar jig in place being used.

Many thanks,
Gary Weaver II




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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:45:42 -0400
From: Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman_at_dml_fuse.net>
Subject: Re: Images of Torsion Bar adjustment

Look on the deloreancarshow.com page...I believe there were pictures in 
there from Memphis.

-Josh


Gary Weaver II wrote:

>Alrighty, I know HOW to do it, but I was wondering if anyone had an 
>image of the Torsion Bar jig in place being used.
>
>Many thanks,
>Gary Weaver II
>
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:23:55 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Looking for engine shop in MD

Before you go jumping to conclusions you might want to pull the valve
covers and try a valve adjustment. It isn't that difficult to do.
Unless the engine was overheated or the oil wasn't changed regularly
you shouldn't have anything too serious. In any case you will know as
soon as you pull the valve covers by the amount of gunk you find!
Ideally you should not see much but if you do then you might have a
lot of work. Depending on the mileage that the car has you might need
to replace the O2 sensor but in any case before you start get a set of
gaskets for the valve covers. If it's really gunked up then after you
reassemble buy a can of engine flush, run the motor for a while
(according the the instructions on the engine flush) and then change
the oil and filter.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Dmc3360_at_dml_a... wrote:
> I was contacted by a gentleman named Jamie we had met at The British
Car Day 
> Show in Bowie, MD a couple years ago.  He has a Lotus and import car
repair 
> shop.  What area were you looking in?  In any event email me
directly if you are 
> in that area and would like the info.  I don't know how the shop is
but he 
> said he worked on DeLoreans.  If you are having that type of engine
trouble you 

> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:31:08 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: DML and Lucas, Prince of Darkness

It hasn't been too good a week for me on the DML. Earier this week I
got hit with the Blaster worm and then the Blackout! My ISP didn't get
up right away so my mail was stuck. I guess those of us with Lucas
electrical systems should be more accustomed to this kind of treatment
by electrical devices! 
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757




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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:40:21 -0000
From: "anaheim_21" <anaheim_21_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Fuel Pump

Hello all - 

I have a question about the fuel pump, what symptoms would the car 
show if the fuel pump was inoperable?  Would you still be able to 
drive the car?  Does the relay / fuse update alleviate any of these 
symptons?




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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 20:10:24 -0000
From: "Toby Peterson" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pump

In general terms, if the fuel pump is inoperable, the car is 
temporarily a paperweight.  There are many reasons for fuel pump or 
fuel delivery challenges, but one thing is certain ... the DeLorean is 
very sensitive to adequate fuel flow.  The reasons for a 
non-functioning fuel pump include a blown fuse (#7 I believe), RPM 
relay, tripped inertia switch, pump power relay, corroded wires at the 
top of the pump (my personal favorite), etc.  Fuel delivery is also 
affected by the frequency valve, fuel pressure accumulator, fuel 
filter, and any number of things in the fuel distributor.  If the car 
will start using starting fluid, but will not continue to run on it's 
own, the fuel system is suspect.  As you can see, it is then a matter 
of tracking down the source of the trouble, starting with the specific 
symptoms that you are experiencing.  Give the List some specifics, and 
I'm sure somebody has "been there ... done that".  Good luck.

Toby Peterson  VIN 2248
Winged1 - with new pump and new power wires to the pump


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "anaheim_21" <anaheim_21_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> Hello all - 
> 
> I have a question about the fuel pump, what symptoms would the car 
> show if the fuel pump was inoperable?  Would you still be able to 
> drive the car?  Does the relay / fuse update alleviate any of these 
> symptons?




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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:00:23 -0000
From: "hodakaguy" <hodakaguy_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: WA Car show in Cle-Elum on Saturday. Any Deloreans going?

I'm driving up to Cle-Elum for the car show this weekend on 
Saturday.  Just wondering if any other DeLoreans are going to be 
there.  If so I'll see you then.  Tom C.

Vin# 01063




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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:03:37 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pump

If the fuel pump doesn't run the motor won't run. The fuel pump is the
only source of pressure for the fuel injection system and the fuel
injection system needs pressure. The relay and circuit breaker updates
are not for the fuel pump. The main problem in the fuse box area for
the fuel pump is the melting of the contacts for fuse # 7. If the pump
doesn't run check the grounding through the inertia switch. If that's
OK check for power at the pump. A bad relay is usually the problem.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "anaheim_21" <anaheim_21_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> Hello all - 
> 
> I have a question about the fuel pump, what symptoms would the car 
> show if the fuel pump was inoperable?  Would you still be able to 
> drive the car?  Does the relay / fuse update alleviate any of these 
> symptons?




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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:14:51 -0000
From: "hodakaguy" <hodakaguy_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: New Tires finally on, and some Misc. Maint Items

I finally got my new Michelin Pilot's on today, WOW what a 
difference.  They replaced my worn out Yokohama tires.  The Pilots 
are a lot smoother and quieter than the Yokahama's were and the car 
turns easier, although to be fair the Yokohama's were worn out when I 
bought the car so I never got a chance to try them with good tread.  
Do you rotate your tires side to side or just leave them where they 
are for good?  Yesterday I got to put the car up on a friends new 
lift.  Everything looked pretty clean under the car, I have a couple 
tears in the tie-rod boots so they will have to be replaced, I think 
I will pull the steering rack out and clean/re-grease it while I'm at 
it.  I tightened all the body bolts that hold the body to the frame, 
I was also hearing a Thunk when turning sharp once in a while.  All 
but a couple were loose, I was able to access the passenger side rear 
bolt through the air intake with the help of a swivel head spark plug 
rachet.  When I removed the charcol canister to access the rear bolt 
on the drivers side I found a vacume cap had come off on the canister 
so I replaced it while I was there.  My front brakes have been 
squeeking when you turn corners so I removed the front pads and 
applied some Stop Squeek to the back of them, so far the squeek seems 
to be gone now.  Today I'm going to replace all the fuses in the fuse 
box and clean up the fuse terminals as preventive maint.  so 
hopefully it won't melt down in the future.  How is the trunk carpet 
suppose to be attached to the car?  Mine is just setting in the 
bottom of the trunk but looks like it was once atached some how.  
Just thought I would post what I've been doing for anyone who's 
interested.  Tom C.

Vin# 01063




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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:39:24 -0700
From: "Gary Hull" <Gary_at_dml_IN2TIME.com>
Subject: RE: Images of Torsion Bar adjustment

See http://www.deloreancarshow.com/dcs-2002/index.html for a shot of the
torsion bar adjustment jig in use.

Gary
IN2TIME




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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:32:54 -0000
From: "p12c16" <p12c16_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Getting new tires--Special way to lift the DeLorean???

When I go to get new tires on Tuesday I assume that they are going to 
put the DeLorean on a lift to remove the old NCTs. Is there a special 
way I am supposed to tell them to lift the car?  I would hate for 
them to crack the fiberglass underbody or damage anything else.  

Thanks in advance!
Patrick
VIN 1880




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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:56:00 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for engine shop in MD

Before you even do that, have someone familar with DeLoreans take a 
look at it - I've seen MANY people mistake leaky exhaust manifold 
gaskets for valve noise. I'd bet money that's what you are hearing. 
For some reason the sound of the DMC with a leaky exhaust sounds a 
lot like an old Chevy with a broken rocker arm.......

Dave Swingle

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_w...> 
wrote:
> Before you go jumping to conclusions you might want to pull the 
valve
> covers and try a valve adjustment. 

> 
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Dmc3360_at_dml_a... wrote:
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:08:10 -0400
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Delorean as 80's Collectible Carlisle Article

Intersting Artical mentions DMC-12 in Carlisle article on 1980's collectibles.
Jim 
6147

http://www.carsatcarlisle.com/mediasite/content.asp?ArticleID=170 

Another great import, the DeLorean DMC-12, with its stainless steel body and gull-wing doors was a limited production car brought to life by former GM guru John DeLorean. His company, with production facilities in Northern Ireland went bankrupt while the car experienced purported workmanship problems. This was all amid an infamous drug-buying scandal surrounding DeLorean and his attempts to save his company. A true ‘80s star car (remember the “Back to the Future” movies) produced between 1981 and 1983, it featured a rear engine and rear-wheel drive. The striking body design by Giugiaro of Turin, Italy, still looks modern some 20-plus years later. There are about 6,000 thought to still exist. Five years ago you could still buy a DeLorean for $12,000. Today you’re more likely to pay $18,000-$22,000. The DMC-12 is gaining in value annually.





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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:26:17 -0400
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: RE: Re: Positive Story about the DeLorean

I regularly travel the 220 mile trip between Akron Ohio and Niagara Falls. The car is well suited to the highway. This is  along legged car that's geared on the tall side. I find myself shifting into 5th in the neighborhood of 70mph at the end of the entrance ramps, and set the cruise to what ever the traffic will bear. You have to get used to the stares and the the gawkers pulling up along side and sliding back to get a better look. Every trip is different.
Jim
6147


"content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net> wrote:

>I own 5 Lincoln Mark V's -- 5,000 pounds of opulent excess. Last time
>one of them made 900 mile trip to/from DC was 4th July 2002 (drove
>latest purchase home from New York this spring, but that doesn't
>really count).
>
>In same time frame my little silver car has been up there four times,
>plus initial drive home from Pennsylvania. Never makes the trip
>without SOMETHING breaking, but has yet to put me walking (fuel pump
>ground was lost here in town, about a mile from house). Did almost
>burn the car up in Fayetteville last November... Otherwise I've found
>my DeLo to be very reliable and comfortable on I-95. Am looking
>forward to eventually getting cruise control installed for future trips.
>
>Wasn't supposed to turn out like this of course. Sole purpose of
>driveway full of Lincolns is variety choice for road trips. Need to
>discipline myself so they too will someday get a good road burn.
>
>DeLoreans are far from perfect, are certainly not Gods (heads up
>everyone giving Ken K a hard time recently), but are not design basket
>cases either.
>
>Bill Robertson
>#5939
>
>>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_h...> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> With all the stories about things breaking down on this list
>> I'd thought to share some positive experience with you all...
>>
>> The past weekend I've been upto The UK and back from my
>> home in The Netherlands to have fun with the DOC-UK as
>> guests at the Renault Club UK at Gaydon, near Birmingham.
>>
>> I made it out there and back home without any real troubles,
>> my clutch is definately starting to show signs of wear,
>> the blower motor bearings ar definately busted and a
>> couple of lights on my LED-panel decided to go on strike.
>> Other than that my trip wasn't really eventfull.
>>
>> The most exiting time I had was getting off of the ferry
>> and seeing my fuel light coming on and staying on...
>> I thought there was a gas station just outside of Calais,
>> but instead there was a sign saying that the next services
>> were past Dunkerque.
>>
>> It turned out to be 15 kilometers into Belgium, over 70km
>> from Calais. To preserve fuel I shut off all unneccesary
>> stuff like the A/C, blower and radio. At the end of the off
>> ramp when braking to queue up to the pumps the car stalled...
>>
>> Got it running again and could finally fill it up again.
>> It took 50,96 liters of fuel! Meaning I had only 0,7 left!
>> After re fuelling it was smooth cruising home, with an
>> occasional traffic jam, but not to bad.
>> I arrived home at 02h15 CET (01h15 GMT).
>>
>> Some stats for my trip (thanks to my nifty bike computer):
>> Total Distance traveled out and back: 1511,5 km (± 940 mi)
>> Total actual driving time: 15h48m (time from home: 42h15)
>> Average Speed driven: 95,55 kmh (± 59 mph)
>> Maximum speed attained: 182 kmh (± 113 mph)
>> My car now has 41288 miles on it, over 12000 more
>> than when I bought it allmost 3 years ago!
>>
>> Best mileage I got, with the A/C on constantly, lights on
>> and stereo playing quite loud: 9 km to the liter (±21 mpg?)
>> Not bad I would say!
>>
>> The lights on my LED-panel should be easily fixed,
>> I'll have to examine the blower motor a bit more before
>> I decide what to do with it and the clutch is only STARTING
>> to show wear, so I'm "saving" it now, so I can make a 120mi
>> trip in three weeks and then doe the work it needs...
>>
>> All in all I think my DeLorean held out quite well and
>> I really enjoyed my stay in Brittain. For those of you
>> that think a DeLorean is not relieable;
>> I think I've just proven you wrong!
>>
>> If it weren't for the clutch (probably 20 years old)
>> I would do it right again in a heartbeat!
>>
>> JAN van de Wouw
>>
>> Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
>> Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...
>> Shifting Expectations...   Driving a Nissan...
>>
>> DMC-12 "Dagger" since Sep. 2000
>> 100NX "Saphire" since Nov. 2002
>> -------------------------------
>
>
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:30:52 -0400
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: RE: Project Car Available

Shouldn't the station owner have a mechanics lein on the car? If so it's just a matter of paper work and the title should be his.
Jim
6147


"media1524" <brentlun_at_dml_netrax.net> wrote:

>Hello List,
>
>I had been playing tag with the owner of a local service station for 
>the past several months.  Back in May a spectator at a car show asked 
>if my car was the one that was parked behind his station.  I checked 
>it out and sure enough it was there.  I finally got to talk to the 
>station owner on Monday.
>
>Here is what he told me:  The car has been sitting for 12 years.  A 
>customer who had a dispute over a bill abandoned it.  For 9 years it 
>was kept inside but was moved outside about 3 years ago and covered.  
>The cover disintegrated and it has been totally exposed to the 
>elements since last winter.  The station owner does not have the 
>title and told me that to title it, it would have to be declared 
>salvage and given a reconstructed title.  Since he does not a have a 
>salvage license he does not want the hassle and may sell the car for 
>parts.
>
>I stopped to look at the car on Tuesday, here is what I saw:
>
>September 1981 
>#SCEDT26T7BD003954
>Not running
>No title (abandoned)
>Last registered in 1991
>Hood groves, No flap
>5 Speed
>34,180 miles
>Black interior, Dark grey carpet
>Seats fair with minor scuffs & cracking
>Dash cracked
>Binnacle cracked
>No upgrades
>Small ding in hood, Dent in LF fender
>Other stainless is good
>All glass is good
>Fascias need refinishing, Eyebrows
>Minor surface rust on frame
>
>I am currently looking into what I have to do to get a title for this 
>car so that it can be sold.
>
>This car is not on Knut's register.
>
>With the recent thread about not parting out cars I thought someone 
>might be intrested in this project car.  Contact me off line if 
>intrested.
>
>Thanks,
>Brent lundgren
>1983 #17006
>1981 #3049
>
>
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Message: 23
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 01:38:34 -0000
From: "supermattthehero" <supermatty_at_dml_psu.edu>
Subject: Flux capacitor reference photos

I'm not sure if the mods will let this through, so I'll try to be as
"legal" as possible.  For the past 2 weeks I've been collecting flux
capacitor photos in preparation to build the most accurate model
possible.  If anyone has or knows where to find ANY and all pictures
of them, even if they are not from the movie/movie cars, please feel
free to e-mail me: supermatty(at)psu.edu.  I will be putting up a
photo album with all of them in addition to in-progress photos when I
begin constructing it.  Thanks!

Matt Spittle
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Message: 24
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 01:40:59 -0000
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Clutch line replacement and cause of backfire?

I had my car running pretty well today considering I still have 6
injector seal leaks.

Just when I was taking it around the lot for a test drive, the clutch
went soft. I still have the old plastic line. I already intend to
replace it with the braided stainless one.

My question: Is this one of those "seperate the body from the frame"
projects?, or can you run it without doing that?

Mike C is bringing my seals and O-ring by tomorrow which is good. The
car is still back-firing or doing these tiny but sharp "sneezes" out
the exhaust pipe and/or back through the fuel/air mixture control
unit. It happens less as the engine gets hotter.

Is this a product of vacuum leaks, or should I be looking elsewhere?

Rich
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Message: 25
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 01:52:35 -0000
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for engine shop in MD

Mike Cohee and I live in MD also. He's near Columbia and I'm in Crofton. 

I've searched high and low and can't find anyone even willing to
discuss our cars. Mike had a gentleman who was capable but now refuses
to work on them. He says it's too time consuming and he's too backed up.

If this Lotus mechanic is still around I'd love to hear about it. I
think we're on our own though.

Like Dave T. says though, don't panic. Just pull the suspect valve
cover and check it out.

If you're really desperate, I might be persuaded to take a peek. I
just did a tear-down and head gasket job on my engine so it's still
fresh in my mind what's happening in there.

Rich
#5335


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "brucedduncan" <bduncan_at_dml_v...> wrote:
> My engine has been tapping recently at idle...and I have a sinking 
> suspicion its a rocker arm.  I want to know if anyone on the list has 
> had any experience with shops in MD with this kind of work.  I am 
> located in the Frederick area and work in Rockville (near DC).
> 
> Thanks,
> Bruce Duncan




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