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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1641
Date: Friday, August 29, 2003 8:40 AM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Re: Tuning Idle Speed Circuit. (was: Re: idle problem)
From: "Rustproof" <Rustproof_at_dml_prodigy.net>

2. DeLorean spare tire
From: <fenris_at_dml_gamebox.net>

3. Re: Idle speed
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

4. Re: Replacement Battery
From: Andrew <aos+yahoo_at_dml_boom.net>

5. Re: Replacement Battery
From: MPolzin_at_dml_sen.com

6. First Series Cars
From: Pete Berveiler <zamphyr2000_at_dml_yahoo.com>

7. Tuning Idle Speed Circuit. (was: Re: idle problem)
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

8. Re: aftermarket gaskets
From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>

9. cat red hot
From: John Podlewski <john_podlewski_at_dml_yahoo.com>

10. Walkthrough for Replacing Slave Cylinder? Need one bad
From: "steve" <steve_at_dml_redsquall.net>

11. driver door locks
From: John Podlewski <john_podlewski_at_dml_yahoo.com>

12. Where to purchase driver-side armrest extension cap?
From: "supermattthehero" <supermatty_at_dml_psu.edu>

13. RE: Lambda system troubleshooting
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com

14. Monster Garage re-run
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>

15. RE: Re: Idle speed
From: "Gary Hull" <Gary_at_dml_IN2TIME.com>

16. Back Up Lights
From: steve trimble <stevetrimble52_at_dml_yahoo.com>

17. Re: cat red hot
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

18. door locks
From: John Podlewski <john_podlewski_at_dml_yahoo.com>

19. Re: Valve cover vacuum leaks
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

20. Re: Idle speed
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

21. Re: DeLorean spare tire
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

22. Who's going to SEDOC?
From: "geek123y" <ken_at_dml_techno-concepts.com>

23. Re: Walkthrough for Replacing Slave Cylinder? Need one bad
From: "Michael Paine" <mpaine_at_dml_tycomsystems.com>

24. Question everyone.
From: Enid <hispanicangeleyes_at_dml_yahoo.com>

25. Re: Back Up Lights
From: "Richard" <dmc_driver_at_dml_yahoo.ca>





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:36:19 -0400
From: "Rustproof" <Rustproof_at_dml_prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Tuning Idle Speed Circuit. (was: Re: idle problem)

Having taken all the advice I could get from the list and the archives, I
have attempted to set up both the CO mixture as well as the CIS idle. This
was fiddled with by the previous owner and never properly reset. I set the
(CO Mixture Screw) air/fuel mixture using an exhaust gas analyzer at 14.1:1
with CO emmission at less than 1%. Idle set was 750 and varied about 50rpms
high and low. The frequency valve could be heard at idle at a relatively
constant and stable pitch. The engine appeared to run very smoothly.
However, upon shutting it off, it would not restart! I then advanced the
mixture screw by 1/8th turn intervals clockwise until the engine was able to
start. The idle was erratic and fluctuated several hundred RPMs hunting
wildly. The frequency valve buzzed on the lean upswings and was silent on
the downswings. I then adjusted the CO screw (by ear) until the engine ran
smooth again but I could see by the analyzer that it was running on the rich
side to get it to settle down. I then set the idle again to 750. This time
the idle remained on 750 exactly with no fluctuation at all but the
frequency valve remained silent. I assume that this is due to the very rich
mixture. The engine seems to run fine set like this but I realize that I am
essentially nullifying the lambda system with the over-rich mixture.The
engine has been checked methodically and no vacuum leaks can be found. All
o-rings, tubing and fuel system parts including pump, accumulator and hot
start kits are new. The engine has only 8,000 miles on it.
 I was hoping that someone on the list with a pefectly operationg system
might answer the following questions:

1. At idle, should the frequency valve buzz constantly and steadily?
2. With the O2 sensor unplugged, I am able to set up everything exactly to
spec. and the engine runs smooth and perfect. As soon as I reconnect it,  it
hunts wildly again and I am forced to adjust the CO mix again to get it to
settle down! Why is this happening?
3. At 750 idle, should the CIS adjust to compensate for the A/C load or does
the idle normally drop 100 RPMs?

Your input will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Rustproof
Vin #1559





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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 20:22:59 +0300
From: <fenris_at_dml_gamebox.net>
Subject: DeLorean spare tire

A question popped up to my mind, all the way since I read from one DeLorean website that the trunk ( do you really call it trunk when it's in front of the car? A Finnish word for it 'tavaratila' does not specify where in the car it is, does the word 'trunk'?) Anyway, that's off the subject...

I read that the spare tire is located, where is most cars, under the trunk. And as in most cars, it is a compact, smaller than the normal wheels. One thing that caught my interest was that it said that the trunk won't fit the regular wheel. So if a blowout does  occur, where would you put the blown tire? In the lap of the passenger? Or is there an empty space in the rear on the engine lid, could you put the wheel there or is the lid strong enough to carry some weight? Or do you clog some exhaust-intake vents by doing so?

I have nevver seen a DeLorean, although I will go test drive one and the only DeLorean in this country next week, but by looking at the pictures it seems that there's an empty space on the engine.

What would you do if you'd have a tire blow out and you'd have to put on the spare tire, leave the blown out tire and wheel on the road ?

/JD

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:24:34 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Idle speed

If you are having a lot of trouble getting the motor to idle down and
you have to hit the pedal to do it one thing to check is the "quadrant
link". It is the piece that connects the throttle spool to the
throttle plates. It is a short link with a ball fitting on each end (a
miniature version of the type on the struts) with a left and right
hand thread (1 on each end) for a very precise fit. I have seen a lot
of cars that have a lot of play in the ball sockets and on 1 high
mileage car the ball on the throttle spool was rocking back and forth!
With that much play in the throttle linkage you aren't always getting
the engine back to idle. The whole linkage must move freely with as
little play as possible. I also see were the throttle cable needs to
be lubricated and on some cars the wire was fraying by the throttle
spool. The moral here is before you go condeming the idle system you
need to have all the simple stuff working right. BTW do not try to
remove the quadrant link without first removing the locking pins (just
like the struts)! It would be a good idea to lubricate these points
once in a while. Lubricate the throttle cable as per the throttle
cable recall with anti-freeze. I try not to get into control theory
but for those that do understand it they would leave the idle system
stock and fix the "real" problem and not blame the idle system for
something it cannot do. As for vacuum leaks if the valve covers or
timing covers are affecting you idle quality check the fittng inside
the neck by the breather. It is supposed to limit the vacuum intoduced
into the crankcase sort of like a pcv valve. If it is missing or has
been enlarged then you are loosing too much vacuum into the crankcase.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "checksix3" <jetjock11_at_dml_j...> wrote:
> >>The Idle Speed Motor does a fine job of setting the idle speed, and 
> of maintaing it. But as I found on my car, only when you drive 
> gently.<<
> 
> Thenn something is wrong with your car and you've compensated for it 
> by using the manual idle.
> 
> >>If the engine is at a high rev (usually about 4K or more RPMs), then
> when you push the clutch in to drop (or let off the gas on an auto





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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:10:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: Andrew <aos+yahoo_at_dml_boom.net>
Subject: Re: Replacement Battery

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Kevin Abato wrote:

> So here I am... asking what should I get?

You'll pay for it, but I'm a big fan of the Optima Yellow Top batteries.
They make only one model with the side terminals, and that's the one
you'll need.

Pay for it once and you'll never ever have a problem with it.

-andrew
 #4115
 Houston TX



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:49:04 -0500
From: MPolzin_at_dml_sen.com
Subject: Re: Replacement Battery

I will second this, Optima's are by far the best battery you can buy. They
do cost about $50 more than your average, but they will not leak acid like a
convential battery and thus damage the interior of your car. There is also
no "battery odor" because they are totally sealed.

I will mention that their newest version has top AND side mounts, there are
plugs that cover the mounts you aren't using. You can generally get them at
any Sears Auto Center...

Mike Polzin


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew" <aos+yahoo_at_dml_boom.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] Replacement Battery


> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Kevin Abato wrote:
>
> > So here I am... asking what should I get?
>
> You'll pay for it, but I'm a big fan of the Optima Yellow Top batteries.
> They make only one model with the side terminals, and that's the one
> you'll need.
>
> Pay for it once and you'll never ever have a problem with it.
>
> -andrew
>  #4115
>  Houston TX
>
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:53:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Pete Berveiler <zamphyr2000_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: First Series Cars

Hey group,

I heard a pretty substantiated rumor last night from a
DMC investor that some of the investor cars (like 4981
that sits in my contact's garage) were delayed from
earlier models (he was sheduled 2051, so he claims)
due to "Overseas Shipments".  This was communicated
via telephone from JDZ representatives to those
investors (like my contact).

The grapevine (unsunbstantiated) is that a LOT of the
low VIN cars were delivered to Saudi Arabia and other
middle Eastern states.  A friend of mine in US Army
Intel confimred that he saw no less than 2 dozen
ruined ones in a sand pit in Kuwait when he was there
10 years ago, and even more in Saudi.

Has anyone heard of this before?

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:37:22 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Tuning Idle Speed Circuit. (was: Re: idle problem)

It sounds to me like your Lambda system just died. Troubleshoot to
find the reason (very common for the relay to die). Since the Lambda
wasn't adding fuel you compensated by going overly rich with the
mixture screw. You should hear the frequency valve buzz whenever the
engine is running. You are almost there, get the Lambda running again
and it sounds to me like you have it just about right! (Of course
readjust the mixture screw with the Lambda running).
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757 


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Rustproof" <Rustproof_at_dml_p...> wrote:
> Having taken all the advice I could get from the list and the
archives, I
> have attempted to set up both the CO mixture as well as the CIS
idle. This
> was fiddled with by the previous owner and never properly reset. I 




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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:41:34 -0400
From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos_at_dml_sybercom.net>
Subject: Re: aftermarket gaskets

I'm sure all of the DeLorean vendors have what you are looking for but I
make my own automatic pan gasket from a sheet of cork gasket material from
the auto parts store. Valve covers use RTV and the exhaust gaskets can be
gotten at the Volvo dealer for the 2.8 engine.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jordan rubin" <nuttenschleuder_at_dml_yahoo.com>
To: "dmcnewsgroup" <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 9:50 AM
Subject: [DML] aftermarket gaskets


> Hello all,
>
>     Does anyone know if there are aftermarket gaskets
> available for the delorean.   i.e. felpro, for the
> auto transmission pan, the valve covers and the
> exhaust manifold.
>
>
> thanx
> jordan 11613
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:21:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Podlewski <john_podlewski_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: cat red hot

Cat converter cherry hot,  ran O.K but took it in for a tune up after 25,000 mi. The delorean has just under 50k on the engine now runs smooth but hot cat. Suspect to much fuel.  How do I direct the mechanic  to fix a problem that he probably caused, becasuse it was fine before.  Don't know what parts he used but will find out tomorrow.  What specifically would cause this, any help.




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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:31:22 -0000
From: "steve" <steve_at_dml_redsquall.net>
Subject: Walkthrough for Replacing Slave Cylinder? Need one bad

is it easy? doesn't seem ilke i can even get to the thing.  anyone 
done that before themselves?

thanks
steve
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:10:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Podlewski <john_podlewski_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: driver door locks

Where can I find service bulletin st 10-8/81 or can some send it over?  Thanx.         
                                        




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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:32:30 -0000
From: "supermattthehero" <supermatty_at_dml_psu.edu>
Subject: Where to purchase driver-side armrest extension cap?

Hi,

I'm looking to purchase a driver-side armrest extension cap for a
black interior car.  It seems many of the vendors only sell the entire
armrest assembly.  I'm looking for only the cap.  Anyone know where I
can purchase one?

thanks,

Matt #1604




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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:34:46 -0400
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: RE: Lambda system troubleshooting

>Can someone please post or email me the O2 sensor voltage outputs?

Once warmed up, your O/2 sensor should put out .1 volts at full lean and .9 to 1.0 volts at full rich.
Jim
6147





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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:40:21 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>
Subject: Monster Garage re-run

Reminder - if you missed it the first time, next run of the Backyard 
Monster/Monster Garage episode with DeLoreans in it (not as the 
project!) is tomorrow Friday Night 8/29. Air time is 8 and 11 (7 and 
10 central). Also on Saturday at 3 pm (2 central). Discovery Channel. 

Dave S




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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 18:49:51 -0700
From: "Gary Hull" <Gary_at_dml_IN2TIME.com>
Subject: RE: Re: Idle speed

David said:
   >If you are having a lot of trouble getting the motor to idle 
   >down and you have to hit the pedal to do it one thing to check 
   >is the "quadrant link".

That's true, but the throttle plate shaft has its own spring.  If the
throttle plate mechanism is aligned, clean, and lubricated, that spring
should close the throttle plates, (as long as the "quadrant link" isn't
stopping it). If you use the throttle spool spring via the quadrant link to
force the throttle plates closed, you can end up with excessive slack in the
throttle cable.

Gary
www.PNDC.org
www.IN2TIME.com
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:04:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: steve trimble <stevetrimble52_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Back Up Lights

Can anyone enlighten me on were the switch is located
that activates the back up lights? I just purchased
this 81 Delorean and have all kinds of electrical
problems, no fuel reading, door lights that work when
they want to, parking lights don't work, passenger
side toll window doesn't work. Is this normal stuff
for a car this age?

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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:57:34 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: cat red hot

To get the Catalytic Converter to glow red you have to overload it
with unburned hydrocarbons. Some common causes are:
missfiring cylinder due to broken ignition wire or knocked off
broken or shorted spark plug
mixture adjustment WAY off
leaking fuel injector
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, John Podlewski <john_podlewski_at_dml_y...>
wrote:
> Cat converter cherry hot,  ran O.K but took it in for a tune up
after 25,000 mi. The delorean has just under 50k on the engine now
runs smooth but hot cat. Suspect to much fuel.  How do I direct the
mechanic  to fix a problem that he probably caused, becasuse it was
fine before.  Don't know what parts he used but will find out
tomorrow.  What specifically would cause this, any help.
> 
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 18:37:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Podlewski <john_podlewski_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: door locks

Thanks aaron apperciate it $


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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 03:38:51 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Re: Valve cover vacuum leaks

Beg to differ. Had terrible vacuum leak where passenger valve cover
overlapped timing chain cover (mating surfaces not quite flush).
Steady pin point stream of solvent would kill engine. If that isn't a
vacuum leak don't know what is.

Still have bad leak around timing cover crank seal. Most likely way
that air is entering engine is via valve covers (vs block seal).

Rich A just plugged vacuum leaks in his cam access plates, again under
valve covers.

Have you ever heard of anyone running PRV with valve covers removed? 

Martin G/Darren B know engine pretty well (in variety of marques). If
valve cover vacuum leaks were bogus surely they would have said
something by now.

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "checksix3" <jetjock11_at_dml_j...> wrote:
>
> And what is all this I keep reading about vacuum leaks caused by bad 
> valve cover gaskets? There is no negative pressure with regard to 
> ambient under the valve covers, on the contrary...measure it and 
> you'll see.




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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 03:51:18 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Idle speed

You are correct, there is a spring on the throttle plate shaft. On
many of the cars that have problems in the throttle linkage
(especially high mileage cars) the wrong things get tight and the
other wrong things get loose! I find that even with the spring the
throttle plates aren't always closing consistantly against the
throttle stop when the quadrant link is worn. The main point to my
last post is that any play or looseness can be the cause of the
throttle not hitting the micro switch and starting up the idle motor
system. Before getting deep into a complicated electical system make
sure it is not some simple mechanical problem in the first place! If
the throttle cable itself is tight then that could prevent the
throttle from retuning all the way to idle. I have also seen where the
accelerator pedal bracket has bent because the cable is tight. When
the pedal bracket bends you cannot open the throttle all the way. A
simple check: have an assistant hold the pedal all the way down while
you watch the throttle spool, it should just trip the Wide Open
Throttle switch without smacking it.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Gary Hull" <Gary_at_dml_I...> wrote:
> David said:
>    >If you are having a lot of trouble getting the motor to idle 
>    >down and you have to hit the pedal to do it one thing to check 
>    >is the "quadrant link".
> 
> That's true, but the throttle plate shaft has its own spring.  If the
> throttle plate mechanism is aligned, clean, and lubricated, that spring
> should close the throttle plates, (as long as the "quadrant link" isn't
> stopping it). If you use the throttle spool spring via the quadrant
link to
> force the throttle plates closed, you can end up with excessive
slack in the
> throttle cable.
> 
> Gary
> www.PNDC.org
> www.IN2TIME.com
> www.DeloreanCarShow.com




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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 03:58:57 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Re: DeLorean spare tire

We are all driving glorified prototypes. Can use many adjectives to
describe the car, but "mature product line" isn't one of them. Some
issues were never resolved. Spare tire is just one of them.

14" wheels fit spare tire well no sweat. Problem is 15" rears. Have
heard 3 transportation options:
-Tie to luggage rack, if equipped
-Place on engine cover and tie down louvers
-Put in passenger seat

Trunk itself poses own issues. Pack lightly. Plenty of space side to
side, but not tall enough for standard bags.

Are fun little cars, steeped in history. Is surprisingly easy to
obtain your own copy. Maintenance not too difficult (problem is tight
access, not engineering, and cost of parts). Every once in a while rue
the day I brought one home, but generally recommend ownership.

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, <fenris_at_dml_g...> wrote:
> A question popped up to my mind, all the way since I read from one
DeLorean website that the trunk ( do you really call it trunk when
it's in front of the car? A Finnish word for it 'tavaratila' does not
specify where in the car it is, does the word 'trunk'?) Anyway, that's
off the subject...
> 
> I read that the spare tire is located, where is most cars, under the
trunk. And as in most cars, it is a compact, smaller than the normal
wheels. One thing that caught my interest was that it said that the
trunk won't fit the regular wheel. So if a blowout does  occur, where
would you put the blown tire? In the lap of the passenger? Or is there
an empty space in the rear on the engine lid, could you put the wheel
there or is the lid strong enough to carry some weight? Or do you clog
some exhaust-intake vents by doing so?
> 
> I have nevver seen a DeLorean, although I will go test drive one and
the only DeLorean in this country next week, but by looking at the
pictures it seems that there's an empty space on the engine.
> 
> What would you do if you'd have a tire blow out and you'd have to
put on the spare tire, leave the blown out tire and wheel on the road ?
> 
> /JD
> 
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 04:17:22 -0000
From: "geek123y" <ken_at_dml_techno-concepts.com>
Subject: Who's going to SEDOC?


Looking for other Deloreans from Florida who are attending SEDOC in 
Atlanta Sept 20/21 to drive up with.  Please let us know.

Thanks

Ken
#2700





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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:42:30 EDT (-0400)
From: "Michael Paine" <mpaine_at_dml_tycomsystems.com>
Subject: Re: Walkthrough for Replacing Slave Cylinder? Need one bad


I did it - I can tell you all about it if you want to hear. I can tell 
you about how I spent 4 hours hugging my transmission only to get 
nowhere and then the next day get the part out in under 20. I did the 
master, slave, and braided clutch line all in 1 shot. contact me off 
list for help. Maybe between the 2 of us we can make a howto

mpaine(at)tycomsystems.com

> is it easy? doesn't seem ilke i can even get to the thing.  anyone 
> done that before themselves?
> 
> thanks
> steve
> redsquall.net
> 
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Message: 24
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:50:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Enid <hispanicangeleyes_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Question everyone.

Ok everyone new question,
 
  I spoke to the owner of the DeLorean that I have began making downpayments to that I'm getting in November.  He told me there is one problem with the car - not a fatal one - but one that I decided to bring to everyone here for their suggestion as to what the problem may be.
 
Problem:
 
Start the car first time - runs for 40 seconds or so - then it dies.
 
Start the car a second time - runs for 1 minute or so - then it dies.
 
Start the car a third time - and it runs from there on.  No sudden death.
 
Question:  What are the possible causes of this?  To me, it doesn't sound too bad and it sounds like something that could be fixed without too much of a hassle.  If anyone has any ideas, I more than welcome any suggestions/responses/ideas.  Thanks everyone!
 
 


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Message: 25
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 07:26:17 -0000
From: "Richard" <dmc_driver_at_dml_yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: Back Up Lights

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, steve trimble <stevetrimble52_at_dml_y...>
wrote:
> Can anyone enlighten me on were the switch is located
> that activates the back up lights? I just purchased
> this 81 Delorean and have all kinds of electrical
> problems, no fuel reading, door lights that work when
> they want to, parking lights don't work, passenger
> side toll window doesn't work. Is this normal stuff
> for a car this age?

Hi Steve,

The electrical system is often the weakest link of all the components
in a car, or so I've been told by several mechanics, and I believe
it's true.  Especially in a 20+ year old car like a Delorean. 
Corroded/oxidized switches, connections and bad grounds can cause all
sorts of problems. 

  If your RH window does not work but the LH one does, then swap the
switches. If your pass. side now works and the driver's does not, then
you know that the switch is the problem.  I had that problem and the
cause was a bent and corroded contact inside the switch. They are easy
to take apart and clean, but just be careful with those two tiny
springs inside because they're hard to find if you drop them on the
floor.

As for the reverse lights, look under the car and see if you can find
a connector on the side of the transmission. (Driver's side, I think).
You probably will have to jack up the car to see it.  There should be
a wire connected to it  Unplug it and clean the connection.  If that
doesn't fix it then try removing the tail-light circuit boards and do
the "bolt-through-the-rivet-hole" trick.  (e-mail me if you don't know
how, or ask the list) Another thing is the bulbs themselves. 
Twenty-year old ones may look ok, but actually may have gone bad.

Unfortunately, the Delorean is notorious for electrical problems, but
there are updates available from the vendors to fix them.  If your car
still has the original relays then  get the relay kit from one of the
vendors.  Replace all the blade fuses, because they too can go bad
even if they look ok. 

That's all I can suggest for now.  Hope this helps

Richard Rowe
Vin 5853

  




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