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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1648
Date: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:45 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Delorean windows theme?
From: "mr_delorean" <mr_delorean_at_dml_yahoo.com>

2. Re: Power Mirror Switch
From: "Henry" <henry_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>

3. Lawnmower Man Part II
From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>

4. No power on warm engine aka Lawnmower Man
From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>

5. Re: no turn singles, marker lights, or 4-ways
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

6. RE: Electrical help / Starting problem - I'm stuck
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>

7. Rear Quarter Windows
From: "dom1172" <dom_diaz_at_dml_hotmail.com>

8. Re: Re: Electrical help / Starting problem - I'm stuck
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

9. Best headlights?
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

10. Re: Power Mirror Switch
From: "Dom Diaz" <dom_diaz_at_dml_hotmail.com>

11. AW: Power Mirror Switch
From: "Elvis Nocita" <elvisnocita_at_dml_gmx.de>

12. Zinc Plated Frame
From: "anaheim_21" <anaheim_21_at_dml_yahoo.com>

13. Prototype Pics
From: "dom1172" <dom_diaz_at_dml_hotmail.com>

14. SEDOC CRUISE IN UPDATE:
From: "delor_01" <JOHN.JORDAN_at_dml_ED.GOV>

15. Re: Best headlights?
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

16. Wanted: Set of Toby-Tab Bolts. Do you have an extra set?
From: "hodakaguy" <hodakaguy_at_dml_yahoo.com>

17. RE: No power on warm engine aka Lawnmower Man
From: "Rob van der Veer" <rob.van.der.veer_at_dml_delorean-europe.com>

18. Re: Thinking of putting CD Player in Driver Comparment....
From: "jchapelhow" <chapelhow_at_dml_hotmail.com>

19. Re: No power on warm engine aka Lawnmower Man
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

20. My New DMC - Help!
From: "Warren & Heather" <hnwwoodzell_at_dml_yahoo.com>

21. how to clean waterstains from glass?
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

22. Re: My New DMC - Help!
From: billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com

23. DeLorean for sale... 470 miles!!!
From: "Dan RC30" <danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>

24. Re: My New DMC - Help!
From: "spaceace3113" <spaceace3113_at_dml_yahoo.com>

25. Re: My New DMC - Help!
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>





Message: 1
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 18:57:58 -0000
From: "mr_delorean" <mr_delorean_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Delorean windows theme?

Hi,

I have searched in vain to find a good dmc theme on the internet, 
would some kind soul please point me in the right direction.

Many thanks, 

Alex Duffey - UK

No DMC-12 :( ...

...yet ;)




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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 23:27:53 -0400
From: "Henry" <henry_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Power Mirror Switch

> Is there a diagram or info on how to fix the power mirror switch, 
> like the one for the defroster switch?

I think everyone (except perhaps John Harvey) will tell you that the power mirror switch is non-serviceable and can't be put back together.

You can, however, get a 1995 Saab switch and swap it out, like I explain here:  http://www.eskin.net/saabswitch.html    

-Hank #1619





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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 09:21:23 -0400
From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>
Subject: Lawnmower Man Part II

I forgot to mention in my prior post. My girlfriend followed me home that
afternoon and commented that my car sounded like a lawnmower. For that
matter, it drove like one too.




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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 08:53:39 -0400
From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>
Subject: No power on warm engine aka Lawnmower Man

After tracking down all vacuum leaks after the cylinder head repair, I was
ready for a day of smooth sailing. Right out of the garage, the car shot out
like a scalded dog. I was very pleased. However, by the time I was 15
minutes into my journey things got bad. I had no acceleration and eventually
would have to shift down to 3rd just to make up the slight inclines on the
highway. 

I tried disconnected the cold start valve on the way home because I thought
it might be energized all the time, but I had the same result.

I know this problem is temperature related and I'm trying to track down the
culprit. It sounds like it might be a CPR problem, although mine is new.
Could an incorrectly installed vacuum delay valve create this problem? What
else might I look for?



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 04:09:24 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: no turn singles, marker lights, or 4-ways

Another possability is that the wire connector to the fuse has backed
out of it's position in the fuse block. You aren't making contact with
it because it is out of reach. Like Harold said it is time to pull up
the fuse box and see what is going on in there.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> The fuse slots in the circuits you mention (Fuses 2 and 8 are the 
> marker fuses) have a history of self destruction. Are they deformed 
> in any way? No power at those fuses indicates a break in the wire 
> some where as they should be "hot" at all times. Fuse 6 that powers 
> the horns and directional indicator lamps is hot at all times also 
> but the hazard switch could be bad causing no turn signals or 
> possibly the flasher switch could be bad also. There are techniques 
> to test the functions at the harness plug-in near the ignition 
> switch with a jumper wire and test light but what you describe 
> indicates a wire break.
> 
> You should probably disconnect the battery, pull up the fuse box to 
> see under it and determine if any wires are burned and/or 
> disconnected.
> 
> Also, it sounds like you do not have the manuals and wiring 
> diagrams. These are a must if you are going to tinker.
> 
> Harold McElraft - 3354
> 
> 
> 
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Steve Deichman <swdeichman_at_dml_y...> 
> wrote:
> >  
> > Need some help,
> >  
> >  
> > I have lost my marker lights, 4-ways, and turn singels.  There is 
> no power at the
> > fuse box for RT or LT turn singles or horn/marker fuese?  
> >  
> > Is there relay that controls the power to the fused that should be 
> hot all the time?
> >  
> > thanks for any help!
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > ---------------------------------
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 00:39:58 -0700
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>
Subject: RE: Electrical help / Starting problem - I'm stuck

Sorry, Have been working in the shop building stuff.
See below.

-----Original Message-----
From: James LaLonde [mailto:deloreandmcxii_at_dml_excite.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 3:36 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Electrical help / Starting problem - I'm stuck


I've been looking over the electical diagram today, to no avail.

John Hervey - seems like this one is right up your alley.

When my key is the ON position my fuel pump does not charge-up.
( Not good, Should run for about a second in the on position, )

Therefor when I turn it to START it THEN primes-up and takes a
little longer to start the engine. I've done some looking. And the
RPM Relay doesn't close in the ON position. BUT once the engine is
started the RPM relay stays closed, and the car runs just fine.
(FP running when the engine is running is a sign that the pulse coil is
working, you seem to just have a problen when you turn the key to the on
position. )

Looking at the electrical diagram tells me that if in the ON
position, the wiper blades should work too.... they DO! so the
ignition switch is fine... as is the main relay. It's only the RPM
relay that seems not to work in that position. I haven't check the
other companants on the first fuse... I just now thought of that...
but it seem like there is very little to fail between the fuse the
RPM relay... especially considering the RPM relay (and everything
else for that matter) works fine AFTER the key snaps back into the
ON Position from START.
(At this point I would swap out the RPM and see if that works.)
John Hervey


Confusing enough for ya? Any help?? Anyone?


BTW, I finally caught that episode of Monster Garage... Nice job
guys!! Did WAY better than I ever could have done... But Eric took
the fun ride... That jump looked like great fun!!
Also... that One wheeled vehicle on the same show... that was cool.

Thanks for any help anyone can provide,
James 004009



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 15:04:39 -0000
From: "dom1172" <dom_diaz_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Rear Quarter Windows

Hi all,

     I was looking to re-seal my rear quarter glass, can I do this 
without removing the rear panels? How are they held in place? Does 
anyone have a good set of instructions on how to do this? Any input 
would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Dom

5497




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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 16:57:12 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: Electrical help / Starting problem - I'm stuck

The quick fuel pump pulse is not actually part of the design, but an 
innocuous side effect of powering the device up. On some cars you can 
make the fuel pump turn over for a second by flashing the headlights. It 
just puts a "spike" on the +12v rail to the RPM relay which it 
interprests wrongly as a pulse from the coil

Martin

David Teitelbaum wrote:

>The older RPM relays act just as you describe. The newer ones will
>pulse the fuel pump on for a moment when you first turn the ignition
>on and then start running steadily once the motor starts. 
>






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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 12:35:31 EDT
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Best headlights?

Hey Group,

I am interested in replacing my sealed beams with something a little more 
modern.  My Lexus has silvania silverstars in it and i know i won't get that 
great of lighting without lots of modifications and conversions, but i can tell a 
huge difference and need something a little more safe for night driving.  
Rather i am interested in either the very best sealed beam lamps available, or 
perhaps a simple halogen capsule conversion that isn't very involved.  

what will give me the best results? i will replace all four lamps at once.  i 
go online and see many options but it is hard to tell if the lights really 
are brighter at usable wavelengths, or if it is just a bunch of bogus 'fast and 
furious' stuff that looks good but is worthless in the rain or on the 
interstate.

any ideas?

Andy


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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 11:51:21 -0400
From: "Dom Diaz" <dom_diaz_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Power Mirror Switch

Here, Here. I'd like to see someone do a checklist for vacuum leaks. How 
about it David T? (I mean this as a compliment you seem to have a good grasp 
of stabilizing idle performance out.)

Dom


>From: "drdhdmd" <doctorDHD_at_dml_aol.com>
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [DML] Power Mirror Switch
>Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 17:19:50 -0000
>
>Is there a diagram or info on how to fix the power mirror switch,
>like the one for the defroster switch?
>
>HAs anyone put together a how to step by step guide to track down
>vacuum leaks?  Sounds like this is a very popular problem from the
>car.
>
>Dvae & 6530
>
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 21:37:04 +0200
From: "Elvis Nocita" <elvisnocita_at_dml_gmx.de>
Subject: AW: Power Mirror Switch

uuuaaah who said that ?

of course it can be put back together.
I don't have a description how to do it, but I
fixed mine last year and had to take it completely apart.


Elvis


> Is there a diagram or info on how to fix the power mirror switch,
> like the one for the defroster switch?

I think everyone (except perhaps John Harvey) will tell you that the power
mirror switch is non-serviceable and can't be put back together.

You can, however, get a 1995 Saab switch and swap it out, like I explain
here:  http://www.eskin.net/saabswitch.html

-Hank #1619




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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 17:42:17 -0000
From: "anaheim_21" <anaheim_21_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Zinc Plated Frame

Hi there:

There is a company in my area who will sandblast my, zinc coat and 
then powder coat the entire frame.  Does this sound like a good way 
to restore the frame?

Thanks!
Greg




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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 17:57:47 -0000
From: "dom1172" <dom_diaz_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Prototype Pics

Supposedly there are some exclusive pics of the prototype that are 
unavailable anywhere else (car magazines, Stainless Steel Illusion, 
etc.) Has anyone else ever heard of these or where I can get them? 
Thank you.

Dom




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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 18:34:36 -0000
From: "delor_01" <JOHN.JORDAN_at_dml_ED.GOV>
Subject: SEDOC CRUISE IN UPDATE:


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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 18:27:05 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: Best headlights?

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Soma576_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Hey Group,
> 
> I am interested in replacing my sealed beams with something a 
little more 
> modern.  My Lexus has silvania silverstars in it and i know i won't 
get that 
> great of lighting without lots of modifications and conversions...
<SNIP>

Nope, Sylvania now makes Silver Star's in a sealed beam configuration 
that will fit the DeLorean!

http://www.sylvania.com/auto/silverstar.htm

I've never used Silver Stars, just the Cool Blues. And the CB's I'm 
VERY happy with. However on the flip side, while the SS's have a 
hotter color temperature, the CB's have a higher wattage filament for 
the low beams. How the two beams compare in a side by side test, I've 
no idea. But, both are available to use.

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"




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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 21:04:05 -0000
From: "hodakaguy" <hodakaguy_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Wanted: Set of Toby-Tab Bolts. Do you have an extra set?

Hello.  I'm looking for a set of Toby-Tabs trailing arm bolts.  Do 
you have an extra set you would like to sell?  If so please e-mail 
me.  Thanks, Tom Clouse

Vin# 01063

[Tom's e-mail address is hodakaguy(at)yahoo.com]



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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 21:36:15 +0200
From: "Rob van der Veer" <rob.van.der.veer_at_dml_delorean-europe.com>
Subject: RE: No power on warm engine aka Lawnmower Man

-----Original Message-----
From: Travis Goodwin [mailto:tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com] 
Sent: dinsdag 2 september 2003 14:54
To: 'dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Spam][99.0%] [DML] No power on warm engine aka Lawnmower Man>
After tracking down all vacuum leaks after the cylinder head repair, I
was 
> ready for a day of smooth sailing. Right out of the garage, the car
shot out 
> like a scalded dog. I was very pleased. However, by the time I was 15
minutes 
> into my journey things got bad. I had no acceleration and eventually
would 
> have to shift down to 3rd just to make up the slight inclines on the
highway. 

I experienced a similar problem 2 years ago. What was the last time you
checked or changed your fuel filter?

Mine was so clogged up, that it because impossible for the car to keep
up good fuel pressure.

Just my two eurocents..

Rob.
VIN3695





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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 21:06:17 -0000
From: "jchapelhow" <chapelhow_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Thinking of putting CD Player in Driver Comparment....

Patrick

There was an article on doing this in the spring 2003 DeLorean World 
mag. Basically you should be able to purchase a changer unit to go in 
the compartment behind the driver, the signal is then fed to your 
original head unit using an FM modulator. You signal cable is joined 
to the aerial connector (already situated nearby if you have the 
electrical popup aerial) and tune your original radio into the 
signal. A small display module is needed to show track numbers, this 
can even be made to fit in the ashtray area if you want to keep it 
hidden. The controls are then run from a remote contol unit.


I am looking at the same setup in the UK, not many manufacturers 
still use the FM modulator system since the quality of the sound 
depends on your original head unit/speakers.  They seem keen for you 
to change the head unit at the same time :-(



>From the UK prices:
Alpine FM add-on CD changer controller CRM-1652RF, runs ANY of the 
Alpine changers, 6x, 12x, MP3, hard disk is you're really want (my 
car is only insured for 5000miles the later options seem excessive). 
Package price 299 for a standard 6x player and modulator. I have 
been quoted 179 for the modulator if I wanted a more exotic player.
Pioneer `Universal Multi-CD Player' CDX-FM657. Again 6x CD player, 
remote control and FM modulator package 349. Additional flashy 
options include CD-VC60/65 voice controller, learn to shout `great 
scott' to turn on the CD?


John Chapelhow
DOC 19 : `Boeing' 0737





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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 21:24:20 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: No power on warm engine aka Lawnmower Man

Although the problem would seem temperature related my first guess
would be the Lambda system cutting out on you. The next time you have
a loss of power make sure the frequency valve is still buzzing. If
that doesn't help then you have to test each temperature sensitive
device and the wiring or vacuum hose routing to it. Pay particular
attention to the vacuum advance circuit.
David Teitelbaum 
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_v...> wrote:
> After tracking down all vacuum leaks after the cylinder head repair,
I was
> ready for a day of smooth sailing. Right out of the garage, the car
shot out
> like a scalded dog. I was very pleased. However, by the time I was 15
> minutes into my journey things got bad. I had no acceleration and
eventually
> would have to shift down to 3rd just to make up the slight inclines 




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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 21:14:28 -0000
From: "Warren & Heather" <hnwwoodzell_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: My New DMC - Help!

Hello, everyone! We were hoping that by joining this group that 
someone could help us shed some light on a few of the small problems 
that we are having with the De Lorean we purchased in June of this 
year. Here's the story of the car thus far: (NOTE: I have ALL the 
documentation of the work done on the car. None of the things I am 
about to relay are accusations, exxagerations, ect.)

We bought our "D" from a young couple in New Jersey. Her father more 
or less "dumped" the car on them after he purchased it in 1997 and 
basically became too ill to drive it. The older gentleman reportedly 
paid around 17,000 for the car, which at the time, along with many 
other things, needed work on the fuel system.

What to Do? Well.. 

He did what anyone else that close to New York would do, I assume: 
The old fella sent the car to PJ Grady's for work. Whoo, boy, did 
they work on it.

Supposedly, he put a cap of $5,000 dollars on the amount of work to 
be done. That's right.. Five Grand.  Bear in mind, now, that he just 
paid Seventeen Grand for the car! Well.. apparently, after the car 
sat for an ENTIRE YEAR at P.J. Grady's, they commenced work on it. 

After receiving work that ended up totaling over SIX thousand dollars 
(when he told them Five.. they went over without authorization), 
The car STILL needed, according to the papers I was faxed when 
looking into buying her: Exhaust Work, Auto Transmission Work, Rear 
Trailing Arms, a new Drivers Side Window motor ...and the list 
continued, although most of the work "needed" was fairly minor. Upon 
finding this out, the old man became irate, demanding his car back.. 
he paid them the money he said they couldn't spend and had it shipped 
back to Jersey to his daughter's home where it sat until we decided 
we were going to "live the dream" and buy her.

Now onto OUR problems: The car has a major stalling problem. It 
starts up fine every time, and no, it doesn't "buck" or "sputter" but 
when you start her, regardless of how full the tank is, she will only 
idle for about a minute and, off she does.. dead as a doornail, 
especially at intersections or when an eighteen wheeler is coming.. 

OOOH, she LOVES to stall when there's a chance we could all DIE! 

She's also leaking oil really badly, and a new sending unit and 
gasket have not helped. The drivers side window does not work, even 
though I tried swapping switches. One night, on the way home, I had 
the A/C on and when I stopped at a light, all of a sudden she started 
making this noise.. not like a hornet, as I once heard someone say.. 
but it was a SCREAMING noise.. a loud "AAA-OOOOOO" a SCREAM! ..coming 
from somewhere inside this car! 

All these problems have led me to worry day and night about the car, 
even though the mechanic who has it now says there's no rust and more 
than half the hoses and stuff under her are brand new. (I guess 
Grady's must've done something after all). She has 25,000 miles on 
her right now, and just passed her state inspection with flying 
colors. The interior, ect is all new looking.. she even had her 
cargo netting and owner's manual when we got her. 

Can someone help ease our worries?







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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 19:53:14 -0400
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: how to clean waterstains from glass?

List,

I am wondering if anyone has any really good tips for getting rid of stains in my side glass from water deposits (they are irregular stains that cover the whole window as if water droplets dried on it but you can't wipe it off).  i've used windex, dish soap, also break-up cleaner.  nothing helps.  

any ideas?

Thanks!
Andy



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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 21:14:29 EDT
From: billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: My New DMC - Help!

I think you are experiencing some of the normal problems that this car gets 
when they sit for a long time...Without knowing exactly what was done to the 
fuel system its hard to tell. Does the frequency valve buzz? are all hoses 
connected corectly? Check the a/c belts and pulleys. You will get some good 
responces from the DML but most people may need some more info on repairs done. I 
would also join the Delorean mid atlantic club (if you are on the east coast) I 
understand the frustration your previous owner felt. However, after owning my 
car for 2 years I can see how quicklly repairs can escelate on my car.

For that reason I would not paint such a negative picture of Rob Grady on the 
DML without all the facts. I have bought many parts from Rob and Debbie and 
he has assisted me many times on the phone for no charge. Working on a Delorean 
opens a pandoras box of repairs. I have often had $30 repairs become $300 
repairs in 5 minutes. When my car needs major service it will go to Rob's.

Keep us updated on your progress. By the way were is the car located now?

Mike C
2109
maryland
 


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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 21:09:48 -0400
From: "Dan RC30" <danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: DeLorean for sale... 470 miles!!!

Vin 10022 is sitting in a local dealer about 10 minutes from my house. Grey interior, 5sp, 470 miles. It never sold from a dealer that went out of business. They're asking $20,000. Just had work recently to get it roadworthy. Seems like a good deal if you want a clean low mileage original car. E-mail me if you're interested. I might be able to help...

---Dan

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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 01:33:11 -0000
From: "spaceace3113" <spaceace3113_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: My New DMC - Help!

Its kinda funny, you say youre not making any accusations but it 
sure sounds like you are. Mr Grady is a phenomenal technician, thats 
for starters. Secondly $5,000 can be spend in a hurry when you are 
talking about a Delorean, especially when it concerns the fuel 
system. Did you ever see what a fuel distributor costs? Also whats 
the mileage on the car? How, where was it stored? If the previous 
owner just socked it away and then dumped it on someone he wasnt 
that commited afterall.  If you are going by the $25,000 rule then 
perhaps you paid too much for the car, keep in mind expenses and 
repairs dont stop after a set amount has been spent....the joys of 
owning an exotic. Lastly, you really cant put a "cap" on certain 
things and big deal they went over by $1000 dismantling costs money 
too dont forget....welcome to the wonderful world of Delorean...you 
thought women cost money? just wait.....you are in great hands with 
Grady though have no fear good luck




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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 02:17:55 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: My New DMC - Help!

You should hear a loud buzzing coming from the right side valve cover
when the motor is running. If you don't hear it the Lambda relay may
be bad. The loud squeal could be an idler pulley bearing. Don't worry,
the repairs you now may require may not be too expensive. It sounds
like the P.O. spent most of his money prettying up the interior and
doing a cooling system service. For the oil leak clean the motor with
some Gunk and a hose and then try to find the source. It could be the
other sender unit, the oil filter, a bad seal, valve cover gaskets, etc.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Warren & Heather" <hnwwoodzell_at_dml_y...>
wrote:
> Hello, everyone! We were hoping that by joining this group that 
> someone could help us shed some light on a few of the small problems 
> that we are having with the De Lorean we purchased in June of this 
> year. Here's the story of the car thus far: (NOTE: I have ALL the 
> documentation of the work done on the car. None of the things I am 





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