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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1660
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:13 AM

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There are 12 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. RE: Cooling fans and the ignition
From: Joe Angell <jangell_at_dml_tmproductions.com>

2. The DMC Story
From: "Warren & Heather" <hnwwoodzell_at_dml_yahoo.com>

3. WHO IS THIS MAN?
From: ROBLAMROCK_at_dml_aol.com

4. Throttle Linkage Cable Troubles
From: Sean Mulligan <sean_mulligan_at_dml_yahoo.com>

5. DeLorean wanted
From: casey barlow <dmc1288mph_at_dml_yahoo.com>

6. looking for owner;s and tech manuals..
From: "dsstriker" <dsstriker_at_dml_yahoo.com>

7. Re: Throttle Linkage Cable Troubles
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

8. Re: DeLorean wanted
From: Enid <hispanicangeleyes_at_dml_yahoo.com>

9. Re: Rough day on the Rally
From: "schab932000" <schab932000_at_dml_yahoo.com>

10. Wacky Delorean Sighting
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>

11. RE: DeLorean wanted
From: <krasniy_at_dml_krasniy.com>

12. Re: DeLorean wanted
From: advantics_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 08:40:20 -0700
From: Joe Angell <jangell_at_dml_tmproductions.com>
Subject: RE: Cooling fans and the ignition


>  Let's say I take the car out for the day. During my trip it gets hot
>  enough that the cooling fans come on. At this point, if you turn the
>  car off and then try to turn it back on again, it won't start.
>  ( You mean won't start or won't turn over like the power is gone. ( 
> Were the
>  fans turned on by the otterstat or the AC compressor.)
>
>  I noticed that while the ignition is tripped,
>
>  ( Does tripped mean on or is the key in the off position.)

Sorry, I mean when trying to start the car, as in you've turned the key 
all the way to the spring-returned key position to turn the starter.

>  everything is off in the car -- except the cooling fans. More often 
> than not,
>  the solution is to pull open the relay compartment and pull out the 
> cooling fan
>  relay; the car starts right up then
>
>   ( was the AC compressor clutch engauged when this happened.)

The AC itself is most always running in my car (yeay, California).  If 
you try to start the car with the AC on, the cooling fans will turn off 
so the starter can turn.

If the fans are on because the car is too hot, then the cooling fans 
will stay on when you try to start the car, thus drawing to much power 
and keeping the starter from turning over (as far as I can tell).

>   I've also noticed that on the other cars I've owned, the cooling fans
>  stay on when the car is off if it is still too hot. I notice this does
>  not happen on the DeLorean; the fans go off with the car. Is this
>  normal?
>
>  ( This feature wasn't built into the Delorean. If they were to stay 
> on any
>  length of time to do anything major good, the coolant would be in the
>  radiator only because the water pump is no longer turning to 
> circulate the
>  coolant and the thermostat is closed. Also the newer cooling fans 
> only draw
>  1/2 the current that the Delorean 28 amps do. It wouldn't take long 
> to draw
>  a marginal battery down so the car wouldn't start.)

Good point.  I was wondering about battery drain if they ran, and 
didn't even think about how far the fans are from the engine.  Figured 
I should check just to be sure.

>   Also, my relays seem to get quite hot, so it looks like I'll be
>  tightening the sockets this weekend.
>
>  ( Which relay's are getting hot.)

The fan ones were particularly hot; I noticed them because I tinker 
with them the most.  I still had the original fan fail relay until a 
couple weeks ago.  There's a three-way jumper in there now until my 
Fanzilla comes this week.  I tightened all the sockets as per 
www.deloreanparts.com, but have yet to see if that's making a 
difference with the heat.

Unfortunately, my auto trans just decided to stop working, so I haven't 
been able to look at this any more yet.  Boy those things are pricey.

Thanks for the assistance.

-- Joe




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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 17:47:25 -0000
From: "Warren & Heather" <hnwwoodzell_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: The DMC Story

It is with great embarrassment that we apologize for the way the 
original message was taken. While I can see how many of you would be 
upset upon reading it, the true reason for the original post "Help! 
My New DMC" or whatever it was called, was not to down Rob or the 
crew at all, (and we're sorry it sounded that way) but more to give 
the history of the vehicle thus far and possibly get help in solving 
some of the small problems we were having. 

Unfortunately, the "history" of our DMC was hastily written (and to 
make it worse) from the previous owners' point of view, who them- 
selves just wanted rid of the car. We understand that the car will 
need some work, that's part of the reason, believe it or not, that we 
got her. To restore her to the condition she should be, although that 
will take a while, it will be worth it. Our De Lorean may not be in 
Mint, Pristine condition, but we love her just the same, and we 
aren't afraid to spend some money fixing her up. I again apologize 
for the tone of the last message, as I now would trust P.J. Grady's 
with my car any time, any where.

After calling and talking to Rob about the car, his helpful insight 
has given us new hope about a car that we were questioning whether we 
should even keep. I now feel that with a little TLC and some time, 
this De Lorean will be the kind of 'D' I always dreamed of having, 
and I feel I can rest assured knowing that when we send her to Rob 
for the big stuff, it will be done right. 

And I would gladly pass onto any other used car buyer the lesson 
learned here: When it comes to buying a used car, no matter the make 
or model, make your own opinions and look before you leap.  

Thanks, list.  






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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 15:24:47 EDT
From: ROBLAMROCK_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: WHO IS THIS MAN?

MODERATOR NOTE - it's in the photo file all the way at the bottom, the onlyone NOT in a folder, called "MAN". I'm sure the URL will not go thru unmolested.

Can anyone please help identify the man in the photo that I've filed;

<A HREF="http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/vwp?.dir=/&.src=gr&.dnm=man.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/lst%3f%26.dir=/%26.src=gr%26.view=t">http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/vwp?.dir=/&.src=gr&.dnm=man.jpg&
.view=t&
.done=http%3a//photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/lst%3f%26.dir=/%26.src=gr%26.view=t</A>

He is wearing a blue and black jacket, tinted glasses and camera over his 
neck.   He attended Eurofest 2001 with his wife, but I cannot recall his name.

Any help greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Robert Lamrock
Belfast



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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 14:40:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sean Mulligan <sean_mulligan_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Throttle Linkage Cable Troubles

Hey everyone,

As I was leaving work yesterday my throttle linkage
cable snapped.  I had it taken out and lubricated last
winter due to water freezing in the line.  Then, last
summer, the cable snapped and I had it replaced.  So
now I'm onto my third cable...  

I was just wondering if anyone else has had this
problem.  Are there any points where this line has a
tendency to break and if so why?  Thanks.

-Sean Mulligan
 vin #10054
 FLUXING

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 14:49:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: casey barlow <dmc1288mph_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: DeLorean wanted

 Hi,   Anybody know of a Delorean forsale around
Mobile, AL. or Pensacola, FL. Thanks Casey

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 03:38:31 -0000
From: "dsstriker" <dsstriker_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: looking for owner;s and tech manuals..

hi group,
any ideas as to where i can get an owner's and tech manual for an 
automatic dmc? I just purchased vin 3072, and i am looking for some 
basic infomation. i keep looking on ebay for them but i was curious 
if anyone knows of any other place i could try to find them, thanks, 
Dan




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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 03:42:49 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Throttle Linkage Cable Troubles

If you are having that much trouble than something is very wrong. It
is rare for a cable to break. It is even rarer for a replaced cable to
break. There must be something out of whack on your particular car. If
it is breaking at an end maybe a bracket is bent so there is an
excessive angle or flexing that is causing this problem. Are you
getting the replacement locally? If so maybe it is the wrong type of
cable. Replace with a cable from one of the Delorean venders so you
are sure it is the correct part.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Sean Mulligan <sean_mulligan_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> Hey everyone,
> 
> As I was leaving work yesterday my throttle linkage
> cable snapped.  I had it taken out and lubricated last
> winter due to water freezing in the line.  Then, last
> summer, the cable snapped and I had it replaced.  So
> now I'm onto my third cable...  
> 
> I was just wondering if anyone else has had this
> problem.  Are there any points where this line has a
> tendency to break and if so why?  Thanks.
> 
> -Sean Mulligan
>  vin #10054
>  FLUXING
> 
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 21:55:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Enid <hispanicangeleyes_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: DeLorean wanted

Actually I do.  It's one heck of a "fixer".  Me and a friend call it the "Delorean from Hell" here in Pensacola.  Let me know if you're interested, and I'll let you know how to contact the owner.

casey barlow <dmc1288mph_at_dml_yahoo.com> wrote:Hi, Anybody know of a Delorean forsale around
Mobile, AL. or Pensacola, FL. Thanks Casey



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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 04:59:51 -0000
From: "schab932000" <schab932000_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Rough day on the Rally

Thanks for everyones advice. As it turned out, it was fuse number 
7 that was causing my fuel issue. The funny thing was I checked 
both number 1 and 7 when I had no luck starting the car. As it 
turns out, the fuse wasn't blown, but there was some deposits 
of some sort that prevented it to conduct. 

As far as the shifting issue goes I'm going to replace the master 
cylinder first. Has anyone found a rebuild kit, or would you 
recommend buying a new one. It's doesn't appear Grady's offers 
a rebuild kit...

By the way, is the slave cylinder on the passenger side or drivers 
side of the transmission?

Thanks, Pat 5443


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_d...> 
wrote:
> Dom,
> 
> I felt the same when I first got here. I was told to be proud of my 
> humility. :)
> 
> You are exactly correct sir, if you unplug the power plug from 
the 
> CPR, it will power the cold start valve. In fact, when the key is 
> in "run" the valve squirts continuously! So be careful if you do it. 
> Unplug it as soon as the car starts. (This has me jumping 
around like 
> a frog on a hot rock) or, still quickly if it doesn't start or you'll 
> flood out.
> 
> The power plug for the CPR is just to power the heating 
element 
> inside the regulator as I understand. It has ground (power) all 
the 
> time the key is on as opposed to the cold start plug which only 
gets 
> a ground when the thermal switch in the thermostat cap is cold 
enough.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rich
> 
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Dom Diaz" 
<dom_diaz_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> > I had this same exact problem with shifting. It was the slave 
> cylinder, 
> > tricky to get to. You mention changing the clutch assembly, 
> checking the 
> >



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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 03:55:45 -0400
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Wacky Delorean Sighting

I was just watching MTV2, a video came on for "MOVE YOUR FEET" by Junior
& Senior.  During the video, there is a computerized image of a squirrel
driving the BTTF Delorean running over zombies.

You don't see that every day.

Jim
1537 zombie killa



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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 07:41:16 -0400
From: <krasniy_at_dml_krasniy.com>
Subject: RE: DeLorean wanted

There was one for sale in Jacksonville a short while back.... 160k miles
and needed some TLC for sure.... But the car was in great running
condition according to the owner. He wanted $11000 for the car but
dropped to 10k.. Not sure if it sold....but if it is still for sale you
may likely be able to offer less.Contact info I was provided with: phone
- 904-536-9119  seller name - Kendall Tuttle. Other than that the best
places to look (in my opinion) Dmcnews.com (of course!),
http://www.collectorcartraderonline.com/ ,
http://www.hemmings.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/classifieds.carsearch/sort_
by/insertdate/make/DeLorean (use that link cuz hemmings is supposedly
only letting subscribers in and I saved the link before then and it
still works) and note this list is from newest listed to oldest so as
you go down they are normally long sold... The georgia one on that list
sold a month ago :(  , also try www.cars.com sometimes they show up on
there, and lastly Ebay. Ebay is a strange bird... My advice is to scour
the ebay list as often as you can and if you see a new DMC up contact
the seller and see what their "off of ebay sale price is" sometimes you
are pleasently surprised and make a deal quick....this is how I obtained
VIN 6029
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6209&i
tem=2430953540 so this CAN work. Oh and I almost forgot Abracat.com
...classifieds search...I normally use it to fine arcade machines in my
area but I was also able to find a couple Deloreans on there too. 

Finding one in your LOCAL (within 50 miles) area may be possible but it
is unlikely... Be willing to ship the car to you and you open up a lot
more opportunities to find a nice DMC at a price you will like.

Good Luck!
Krasniy AKA Robert VIN 6029

-----Original Message-----
From: casey barlow [mailto:dmc1288mph_at_dml_yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 5:49 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] DeLorean wanted



 Hi,   Anybody know of a Delorean forsale around
Mobile, AL. or Pensacola, FL. Thanks Casey



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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 07:41:16 EDT
From: advantics_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: DeLorean wanted

VIN #1383 is for sale in Winter Haven, FL. It has 41,000 miles on it and is 
immaculate inside and out. It is a twin turbo 5 speed with 160 mph speedometer. 
Email me for other details and pictures.

John 1383 & 5326


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