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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1661
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:15 AM

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There are 19 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Tuning Idle Speed Circuit. (was: Re: idle problem)
From: "Adam 16683" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>

2. Is Anyone parting out their car? I need little pipe that connects slave cylinde
From: "steve" <steve_at_dml_redsquall.net>

3. Fall Tour Caravan
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

4. RE: Rough day on the Rally
From: robin.coombe_at_dml_oxinst.co.uk

5. POR 15
From: "anaheim_21" <anaheim_21_at_dml_yahoo.com>

6. Re: looking for owner;s and tech manuals..
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com

7. Re: need some help in Boston
From: "Henry" <henry_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>

8. DeLorean wanted
From: casey barlow <dmc1288mph_at_dml_yahoo.com>

9. Zany Delorean Sighting
From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>

10. orginal shop manual
From: "armac.rm" <armac_at_dml_rocketmail.com>

11. Re: POR 15
From: billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com

12. Delorean for sale in Iraq
From: mroboto_at_dml_aol.com

13. Delorean for Sale?
From: "Jace & Jenn" <judtnet_at_dml_cableone.net>

14. Re: Delorean for sale in Iraq
From: <eric_at_dml_seviernet.com>

15. Re: Wacky Delorean Sighting
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

16. DeLorean sighting: Horsham PA
From: "Scott McMullan" <mcmullan_at_dml_netaxs.com>

17. Re: Delorean in Hong Kong
From: "Ian Foster" <ian_at_dml_netvigator.com>

18. Re: POR 15
From: "Bill Lane" <blane_at_dml_triad.rr.com>

19. Tuning Idle Speed Circuit. (was: Re: idle problem)
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>





Message: 1
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:05:38 -0000
From: "Adam 16683" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Tuning Idle Speed Circuit. (was: Re: idle problem)

I am getting opposite opinions on which direction the delay valve is 
supposed to face. Harold, are you sure that the "dist" side goes 
toward the vacuum supply/tee fitting? 
Adam Price 16683


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_a...> 
wrote:
> Is the delay valve installed in the correct direction? It is the 
> plastic vacuum valve located at the control pressure regulator. 
> The "Dist" side goes on the vacuum supply side.
> 
> Harold McElraft - 3354
> 
> Just removed one of these from a Lincoln. Was going to throw away. 
If anyone going to SEDOC wants, let me know and I'll bring with.

My CPR is totally different, but appears from vacuum diagram in Tech
Manual that "carb" nipple points towards Tee and "dist" nipple goes to
CPR.

Ford uses these things in horrifically complicated spark advance
setup. When they switched to 4350 carburetor, moved spark advance to a
full time vacuum port. Then had to route through delay valves and
ported vacuum switches just to make engine run. Stupid.

Bill Robertson
#5939




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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:06:26 -0000
From: "steve" <steve_at_dml_redsquall.net>
Subject: Is Anyone parting out their car? I need little pipe that connects slave cylinde

Is Anyone parting out their car?  I need little pipe that connects 
slave cylinder to clutch line.  Please!

Steve




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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:11:30 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Fall Tour Caravan

I will be travelling the length of the Garden State Parkway to get to 
the Fall Tour at exit #4. We could meet at any of the various rest 
stops along the way on Saturday morning. Anyone heading in from the 
north is welcome. I don't have any times yet so e-mail off list. I am 
aready meeting several others from the area so we could have a large 
group.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757




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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 15:12:20 +0100
From: robin.coombe_at_dml_oxinst.co.uk
Subject: RE: Rough day on the Rally

Unfortunately it is right on top (In the middle) of the Gear Box / Engine.
See Picture,
<http://www.delorean-dmc12.co.uk/restoration/pages/layout/engine/engine/afte
r/engine_after/Dscf0010.jpg>

(I know the Clutch Arm looks Rusty  --  It isn't, it's just covered in
Copper Grease)


Hope this helps.

Thanks,
Robin.


-----Original Message-----
From: schab932000 [mailto:schab932000_at_dml_yahoo.com] 
Sent: 10 September 2003 06:00
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] Rough day on the Rally


...

By the way, is the slave cylinder on the passenger side or drivers 
side of the transmission?




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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 15:32:02 -0000
From: "anaheim_21" <anaheim_21_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: POR 15

Hey there,

I am planning to use POR 15 when I restore parts of my frame next 
year.  I want to use the chassicoat black rather than the gray, which 
would more closely match the original epoxy color.

Does color matter?  




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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:45:31 EDT
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: looking for owner;s and tech manuals..

In a message dated 9/10/03 9:42:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
dsstriker_at_dml_yahoo.com writes:


> any ideas as to where i can get an owner's and tech manual for an 
> automatic dmc? 

Any of the DeLorean vendors carry repro copies of the primary manuals.  Ask 
where you buy, or will be buying, your DeLorean parts.
-Wayne
11174


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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:15:28 -0400
From: "Henry" <henry_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: need some help in Boston

> Any dmc owners/ mechanics in Boston? I just bought one and could use 
> some help. Let me know, Dan

Hello Dan,

  Welcome to the club.  I am in Brookline, and there are a few other owners in the area.  I've done alot of the repairs on my car myself (with the great help of the DML, of course), so that might be your first option.  I've also used  Lumber Street Auto Repair in Hopkinton for some minor repairs - they are a good, clean, and honest shop.  The previous owner of my Delorean had all his work done there, and they claim they've worked on several others in the area.

Also, for anyone in the Boston area, I'm planning on taking my Delorean to the "Pontiac GTO Day" at the Museum of Transportation at Larz Anderson Park in Brookline (www.mot.org) on September 20th.  If anyone else is interested in joining in, let me know.

-Hank






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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 09:44:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: casey barlow <dmc1288mph_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: DeLorean wanted

 Thanks for the information everyone!   Casey



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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:13:16 -0400
From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>
Subject: Zany Delorean Sighting

You think that is wacky, watch this one:

http://www.newvenue.com/feature/

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Strickland [mailto:ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 3:56 AM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com; dmcforum_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Wacky Delorean Sighting
> 
> I was just watching MTV2, a video came on for "MOVE YOUR FEET" by Junior
> & Senior.  During the video, there is a computerized image of a squirrel
> driving the BTTF Delorean running over zombies.
> 
> You don't see that every day.



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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:25:43 -0000
From: "armac.rm" <armac_at_dml_rocketmail.com>
Subject: orginal shop manual

Just wondering what would be a fair price of a orginal factory shop 
manual in great condition with binder and all pages? Print date in 
1982. I have a chance to get one but wanted to know if I am better 
off just going with a reprint or if it would be a good addition to 
the car.




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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 16:53:38 EDT
From: billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: POR 15

the silver is recomended for rust that is more advanced....the silver will be 
closer than the black Por-15 but when you are all done treating your car just 
buy a can or 2 of Krylon smoke gray gloss from walmart at $3.00 a can and 
spray over the part you treat....that is a very close match and is what many 
owners use. I bought the 3 part starter kit from Por-15 becasue i just had a small 
rust spot and then finished it up with the krylon. worked great!

Mike C
2109


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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:12:51 EDT
From: mroboto_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Delorean for sale in Iraq

Anybody seen a Delorean for sale in or near Iraq? Painted is OK, possibly 
something in a desert camo motif, with camel interior? I wonder if Deloreans are 
invisible to radar like a stealth jet?

On a slightly more serious note, I saw a Delorean in Hong Kong earlier this 
week. Anybody know who the owner is?

After inadvertantly scratching up the aluminum finish on my Mac laptop, now 
it looks like my Deloreans. Hey Ken, Is there a concours catagory for laptops? 
I bet I could make 2nd place!

Daniel Deutsch (Currenty writing from Southern China)
3356 & 15779


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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 16:31:46 -0500
From: "Jace & Jenn" <judtnet_at_dml_cableone.net>
Subject: Delorean for Sale?

Hello.  I am new to the group.  I would like to buy a Delorean, but can't find one closer to Nebraska.  Does anyone know of one for sale in Nebraska or the surrounding states?

Thanks,
Jason



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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:44:46 -0400
From: <eric_at_dml_seviernet.com>
Subject: Re: Delorean for sale in Iraq

Hey Daniel

Do you clean that Mac with a scotchbrite pad and a bit of windex?

Eric Itzel
vin 4433

----- Original Message -----
From: <mroboto_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 2:12 PM
Subject: [DML] Delorean for sale in Iraq

?
>
> After inadvertantly scratching up the aluminum finish on my Mac laptop,
now
> it looks like my Deloreans. Hey Ken, Is there a concours catagory for
laptops?
> I bet I could make 2nd place!
>
> Daniel Deutsch (Currenty writing from Southern China)
> 3356 & 15779



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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:54:47 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: Wacky Delorean Sighting

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_j...> 
wrote:
> I was just watching MTV2, a video came on for "MOVE YOUR FEET" by 
Junior
> & Senior.  During the video, there is a computerized image of a 
squirrel
> driving the BTTF Delorean running over zombies.
> 
> You don't see that every day.
> 
> Jim
> 1537 zombie killa

I saw this video a while back after a friend of mine found it on 
the 'net. I had totally forgotten about it.

If anyone is interested in seeing the video, here's the link.

http://www.shynola.com/j_s/j_s_download.htm

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"




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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:29:26 -0400
From: "Scott McMullan" <mcmullan_at_dml_netaxs.com>
Subject: DeLorean sighting: Horsham PA


A coworker reported seeing someone who wasn't me in a DeLorean on her way to
work today, in the Hosham PA area.

If you're on the list, I'd love to talk to you offline; I'm still looking
for mechanics in the area with D experience.




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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 06:30:06 +0800
From: "Ian Foster" <ian_at_dml_netvigator.com>
Subject: Re: Delorean in Hong Kong

Hi Daniel,

What, you saw a DeLorean in Hong Kong? I thought I had the only one in the
Territory  and it is presently being rebuilt/refurbished in USA!?! Are you
sure it was a DeLorean and not a silver Esprit!

If you are still in HK drop me a line and we can grab a pint and talk
DeLoreans if you have time over the "Moon Festival" weekend.

Cheers,         IAN (N.Irishman in HongKong!)
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <mroboto_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:12 AM
Subject: [DML] Delorean for sale in Iraq


> Anybody seen a Delorean for sale in or near Iraq? Painted is OK, possibly
> something in a desert camo motif, with camel interior? I wonder if
Deloreans are
> invisible to radar like a stealth jet?
>
> On a slightly more serious note, I saw a Delorean in Hong Kong earlier
this
> week. Anybody know who the owner is?
..



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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 20:10:18 -0400
From: "Bill Lane" <blane_at_dml_triad.rr.com>
Subject: Re: POR 15

The original epoxy was Gray not Black.

Bill Lane
#3635



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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 01:38:06 -0000
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Tuning Idle Speed Circuit. (was: Re: idle problem)

Yes! I am sure. It is easy to let the logic of the vacuum valve fool 
you. Vacuum flows freely from the "Dist" side and is delayed from 
the "carb" side. It is the delay that must be applied to the 
pressure regulator bottom compartment to give the fuel spike. The 
vacuum is created while idling and drops (vacuum goes away) on 
the "Dist" side and upper regulator chamber during acceleration but 
is delayed on the "Carb" side. See the figure on page 52 of the 
Technical Information Manual. The circled "1" points to the delay 
valve. The side it points to is the "Carb" side.

Harold McElraft - 3354


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Adam 16683" <acprice1_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> I am getting opposite opinions on which direction the delay valve 
is 
> supposed to face. Harold, are you sure that the "dist" side goes 
> toward the vacuum supply/tee fitting? 
> Adam Price 16683
> 
> 
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_a...> 
> wrote:
> > Is the delay valve installed in the correct direction? It is the 
> > plastic vacuum valve located at the control pressure regulator. 
> > The "Dist" side goes on the vacuum supply side.
> > 
> > Harold McElraft - 3354



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