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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1664
Date: Friday, September 12, 2003 8:42 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. sylvania silverstar conversion
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

2. RE: Tuning Idle Speed Circuit. (was: Re: idle problem)
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>

3. Re: Business Article
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

4. Re: delorean power steering??
From: "twinenginedmc12" <twinenginedmc12_at_dml_gendreaumicro.com>

5. Re: Question about window regulators
From: FREDRAVAS_at_dml_aol.com

6. Re: State Inspection
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>

7. Re: Squirrley steering
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>

8. Re: State Inspection
From: lhemb_at_dml_aol.com

9. Re: delorean power steering??
From: "patrickdmc" <patrickdmc_at_dml_yahoo.com>

10. Re: POR 15
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>

11. Re: delorean power steering??
From: Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>

12. DeLorean Scam Artist Goes To Jail
From: "thinkstainless" <stldrgn_at_dml_delorean.com>

13. Re: delorean power steering??
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>

14. Re: delorean power steering??
From: "d_rex_2002" <rich_at_dml_outernet-tech.net>

15. Re: delorean power steering??
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>

16. Re: Business Article
From: "Brian McCool" <bjmccool_at_dml_comcast.net>

17. RE: DeLorean Scam Artist Goes To Jail
From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>

18. Re: delorean power steering??
From: Warren Turkal <wturkal_at_dml_cbu.edu>

19. Carcoon sizes - humidity ' fans
From: "james" <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

20. Re: sylvania silverstar conversion
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>

21. What to look for when buying?
From: casey barlow <dmc1288mph_at_dml_yahoo.com>

22. Tuning idle speed circuit
From: "checksix3" <jetjock11_at_dml_juno.com>

23. Car needed for Bikini Photo Shoot in the D.C./P.A. Area
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

24. Re: Question about window regulators
From: "dmcorlando2003" <SundeQuick_at_dml_aol.com>

25. Re: Tuning idle speed circuit
From: "Jerry Harry" <jlharry_at_dml_mcloudteleco.com>





Message: 1
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 00:01:08 EDT
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: sylvania silverstar conversion

Hey group,

i finished installing a set of four Sylvania Silverstar sealed-beam 
headlamps. aside from the usual griping about the screws for the headlights being 
difficult to access under the fascia, it is simple to do because you just swap 
bulbs as opposed to using newer technology which requires more parts and possibly 
a new power source and balasts. 

the light output is significantly improved, in fact it's about as bright as 
the projector headlamps with 9006 Silverstar capsules in my '94 Lexus ES300.  
however, it isn't as focused, partly because the light seems to reflect off of 
the fascia, causing streaks of light on the ground that don't really need to 
be there.  but then again, i'm also comparing projectors to sealed-beam lamps, 
and in that respect, the silverstars are definitely worth upgrading to if you 
don't want to spend a ton of money but get quite a bit more light for safety 
and so you don't feel so blind on the interstate!

i ordered (2) LH4656 lamps and (2) LH4651 lamps from Sylvania.com for about 
$90 shipped.  In my opinion, this was a good option for a car i really don't 
drive all that much, especially at night, as opposed to $700 and up for HID or a 
capsule conversion!

Andy



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 23:18:29 -0700
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>
Subject: RE: Tuning Idle Speed Circuit. (was: Re: idle problem)

Martin, Slight correction. Our WUR are equipped with a dual spring set up.
When the throttle valve is open further at full load, the pressure in the
intake manifold increases, the diaphragm leaves the upper stops and is
pressed against the lower stops. The inner spring is relived of tension and
the control pressure reduced then you have more mixture enrichment. In other
words, when you put the peddle to the floor the WUR / CPR enrich the fuel
system along with the Full throttle switch which then activates the FV.It's
hard to have one without the other.To the best of my knowledge the delay
valve has a 1 sec. delay. In a Porsche, a fuel filter is used to reduce the
fast inrush of vacuum when dealing with the turbos.
My 2 Cents
John Hervey


-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Gutkowski [mailto:webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:57 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] Tuning Idle Speed Circuit. (was: Re: idle problem)


The vacuum enrichment on the DeLorean's CPR is only active under warm-up
conditions, at which time the distributor vacuum is disconnected. As the
CPR vac is removed, it is placed on the distributor (so to speak).

Martin

Harold McElraft wrote:

>I just read carefully the note you attached. The delay valve is in
>fact in a reversed condition than that called for in the D when used
>in a spark delay setup because the spark advance needs slowed down
>some to eliminate "ping". The "Carb" side in that case is attached
>to venturi vacuum which increases with throttle. The D setup is
>attached to manifold vacuum that decreases with throttle. The delay
>effect in the D is a bleed-down where the spark setup calls for a
>delay in applied vacuum.
>
>Harold McElraft - 3354
>
>
>





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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 07:58:29 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: Business Article

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman_at_dml_f...> wrote:
> oh...statistics can be made up to prove anything.  46.73% of all people 
> know that! ;-)
> 
> -Josh

I'm gonna agree with Josh on this one. Statistics can be made up to
achieve any results that you want. It's not that you have to read the
fine print, it's that you have to read between the lines.

1) It says that these results were from 8300 people polled. But it
does NOT specify that a total of actual people called were 8300. It
could have been 20,000. Simply pick, and choose what data you want to
manipulate your results.

2) What qualifies these people as a "Prospective Buyer"? It gives no
age/income/educational bracket, and more importantly, it does not
specify WHY they would be less likey not to buy from DeLorean. With
other recent surveys (hypocritical, I know) showing that 51% of
COLLEGE STUDENTS not knowing whom the current Secratary of State is,
how the hell can we expect them to even know who John Delorean is?!?
And this isn't history, it's a current event! After all, would you be
more likey to buy from someone you didn't know? While I'm sure that
these people may have been "Prospective Buyers", they're most likey
being far from "Educated Consumer". Which is nowdays, quite an
oxymoron in itself.

Now, on more of a "Conspiracy Theory" note, I personally wouldn't take
anything that Business Week says as the absolute truth. Business Week
is a subsidiary of McGraw-Hill publishing, who themselves in the past
have come under fire for helping build a "Newspeak" list that they use
when censoring both history books, and literary works that they cite.
In otherwords, the can literally alter historybooks in our nation's
schools now in the name of "sensativity".

So with a track record such as this, I've got some serious doubts as
to the accuracy of their poll results, given the level of their
Journalistic "Integrity" when recording history.

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"

p.s. If you'd like a sample of the links cited, here there are:
http://www.avot.org/stories/storyreader$72
http://www.aft.org/american_educator/summer2003/bannedwords.html




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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:36:06 -0000
From: "twinenginedmc12" <twinenginedmc12_at_dml_gendreaumicro.com>
Subject: Re: delorean power steering??

I did it. It was easy.

All you have to do is take the car completely apart, throw away the 
frame, and make a new one that incorporates a drivetrain that already 
has power steering.  Then cut out all the underbody that's in the 
way, and reassemble the car.

Actually, it wasn't easy at all, come to think about it.

You drive your Delorean in Boston?  You're a madman!

Tongue in cheek,
Rick

Is there any way to 
> add a power steering assist to the car? Comments or suggestions 
would 
> be appreiciated, thanks




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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:13:54 EDT
From: FREDRAVAS_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Question about window regulators

i had the same problem before, what i did was install an extender made of 
harden aluminum plate about an inch square drill 4 holes and bolt two to the 
slider plate and two to the window bracket. mine works fine now. by extending the 
slider it will not it will not go beyond the tube anymore. i hope this would 
help you...have patience when doin this..


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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 13:32:46 -0000
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Re: State Inspection

My wife and I read on the DMV website that we're exempt. I'll find the
exact area and get it to you some how.

The car was not RE registered. I bought it in New York. It's the first
time it's been registered here.


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Jim Senft <jpsenft_at_dml_e...> wrote:
> Rich,
> I am currently applying for Maryland Historic plates for my 
> DeLorean...however, historic plates does not exempt the vehicle from 
> emissions testing.  Any vehicle 1977 or newer must go thru the 
> emissions.  If you have found a way to bypass emissions testing, please 
> let me know offline!!! Nor does historic plates eliminate the need for 
> State inspection if the car is re-registered in the state. What did you 
> mean that you don't have to fool with it...?
> 
> Jim in Maryland
> 
> cruznmd wrote:
> 
> > Mike Cohee and I qualify for Maryland Historic plates and don't have
> > to fool with it thank God.
> > 
> > In Maryland if the vehicle is over 20 years old and the company is out
> > of business and the model isn't produced anymore, you qualify.
> > 
> > The 25 year applies if the company is still in business (like Ford).
> > I run into people in Maryland all the time who say "Hey! That's not
> > old enough!" because they don't research the law.
> > 
> > So...if you're in Maryland, read-n-heed. :)
> > 
> > Rich
> >




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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 13:39:07 -0000
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Re: Squirrley steering

I'm glad I'm not going crazy.

Bad tie rod ends is exactly what it feels like. Like driving in ruts.

No metal is moving. I checked. The rubber bushings are slipping out of
the mounts.

No one wants the responsibility of welding my assembly. They all think
 I'm going to sue them.

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Toby Peterson" <tobyp_at_dml_k...> wrote:
> Rich - Funny you should bring this up ... One of our members (PNDC) is 
> having a problem with loose steering, with a lot of wandering, etc.  
> He was told that he had bad tie rod ends, but he is convinced that the 
> rack is moving laterally.  He also has some damage to the crumple 
> tubes, and is further convinced that the frame extension is deflecting 
> as he steers the car, creating some of the loose feel.  Last night, I 
> brought over an expert welder and metal worker to take measurements 
> for a reinforcement plate for the crumple tube area, and (if all works 
> out okay) we plan to offer a reinforcement kit for sale for people who 
> have some damage that they are concerned about.  I suspect that Dave 
> T. will say something about affecting crash-worthiness, but I think we 
> can work around that issue successfully.  I will be creating a mylar 
> template of the area this weekend, so I will look carefully at the 
> bushings and brackets to try to determine where the movement might be 
> coming from.  I need to do that anyway, to support my fellow PNDC 
> member, as we have a club tech session coming up in a week and a half.
> 
> The brackets are not welded to the frame, but they do engage some 
> protrusions in the frame to prevent movement.  Perhaps in your case 
> the nuts have loosened a little bit, and the brackets have disengaged 
> the frame protrusions?
> 
> Toby Peterson  VIN 2248
> Winged1
> 
> 



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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:41:08 EDT
From: lhemb_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: State Inspection

About ten years ago Florida started mandatory vehicle emission inspections in 
the state's most populous counties. This plan was conceived by idiots (the 
Florida State Legislature) and was contracted out to a private company to 
conduct the inspections. They built inspection stations and began fleecing the 
motoring public. I lived in Jacksonville at that time and was subject to these 
inspections. When I first brought my DeLorean in for inspection, it created quite 
a stir amongst the inspection station employees, who must have been blood 
relatives of state legislators, as they were idiots also. As it turned out their 
computer did not have any specs for emissions on a DeLorean, so they used the 
specs for a Datsun, which I guess they figured was close enough since it also 
started with the letter D. My DeLorean did not meet these emissions specs and 
accordingly they were about to fail me. I challenged this and was shown the 
computer screen where my DeLorean had not met the specs. When I pointed out that 
the screen also showed that the specs were for a Datsun, they had to consult 
with the head supervisor, who reluctantly decided to pass the car.

After about two years this program was done away with entirely, as the wait 
in line to have your car inspected would range from four to eight hours. The 
air pollution created by all these vehicle waiting in long lines exceeded that 
which was prevented by the inspections. The Florida emission inspection program 
was a joke that, hopefully, will never return.

Brian McCabe and Harvey (5830)
Santa Rosa Beach, Florida


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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:58:43 -0000
From: "patrickdmc" <patrickdmc_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: delorean power steering??

   
 I remember reading something about certain years of the Pontiac 
Fiero also having an electric power steering pump. Something about 
not having enough room when they first started putting the V-6 engine 
in, so they had to get creative. Not sure of the details like where 
they put it, and if Pontiac used bigger alternators to run it. 
 I'm sure the new BMW is a much cleaner unit than the 20 year old GM 
technology but just wanted to add my 2 cents.

Patrick
001040




--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> Jim, the father of wierd DeLorean conversions turning down a 
> challenge? 
> 
> Actually a thought that occurred to me was to check out a BMW (Z4)
> electric Power Steering setup. The power unit is built right into 
the 
> steering column, and the dimensions do not appear to be all that 
far 
> off (sorry - no tape measure at the time). My guess is that in 
> typical BMW fashion the controls are tightly integrated into the 
> car's computer system so there would be a fair amount of detail 
work 
> to figure out beyond just mounting it. And the power consumption is 
> probably NOT insignificant.  As an additional challenge, there's an 
> airbag to figure out. . . 
> 
> Dave Swingle





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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 08:05:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: POR 15

Ken & others

Yes there was, but it was not the "Millenium
Concours".  This was a few years ago when the
DOA/DeLorean One sponsored a concours at a gathering
on the east coast.  The first, second and third place
cars were all prepared by Rob Grady (much to the
consternation of certain other vendors).  ONE of those
cars, I was told, was "factory undercoated".

Ken, check with Rob Grady. 

Dick Ryan
VIN 16867    

--- kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com wrote:
> I had the to dispute the undercoating since mine has
> it in the Nashville 
> concours.  They agreed and let it ride but I don't
> know of a concours car winning 
> with undercoating.  If there is please let me know
> then I have hope.
> 
> Ken



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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:11:49 -0500
From: Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>
Subject: Re: delorean power steering??

The main problem with power R&P in the D is the hole in the frame.  It 
is too small for a power R & P rack.

However, on my next Delorean project, we are planning to remove the 
stock tube and put in one large enough for a power R & P.  The may take 
the form of a SS frame for Ken.

The issue of horsepower can be resolved with newer power steering pumps. 
 They have valving designed to minimize HP draw to almost 0,  except 
when needed at very low speeds.

BOB




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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:47:16 -0000
From: "thinkstainless" <stldrgn_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: DeLorean Scam Artist Goes To Jail

Greetings,

This is Sean Corbett again. In less than 10 hours from now, I will 
be going before a Judge in the Superior Court of Arizona to face the 
uncertain doom. For those who were victimized in my short 
lived "business", today will be the "justice" that they have been 
seeking. However, as I have always claimed, I am an innocent man, 
who simply did not know enough about DeLorean's and nor the real way 
to practice business. I will not claim to anyone here or elsewhere, 
that I did not infact do everything legit. I admit that I made the 
car that I was selling, sound better than what it really was. Not to 
the extension of complete gross misrepresentation, but enhancing on 
the "facts" that I received from the original owners. I also would 
like to make clear that I did not tell ANYONE that I was affiliated 
with the DeLorean Motor Company, although James Espey in an recent 
email he wrote me hit it on the head by saying "I doubt that you 
didn't tell anyone that you wern't (affiliated with DMC) either."

If any of the victims are reading this post, please accept my 
sincerest appologie. For you must understand that I truly did not 
intend to hurt anyone, and nor cause grief. Yes, I was greedy, and 
yes I wanted to make lots of money, and yes I made LOTS of mistakes 
along the way. In all I can say that this has been a life lesson for 
me and quite the hard learned lesson it truly is.

I hope that for everyone that reads my post will understand that 
even though I am not really completely innocent through this whole 
ordeal, but can still see that I got screwed in some deals. I have 
posted more interesting reading for you all on my website.

As I stated before I could not release information about my case. 
However, considering that my day in court is today, and an unforseen 
future awaits, I am now releasing all documents related to my case. 
In the interest of fairness, I have posted both statements made from 
Myself and from the Victims. This way my site is unbiased, and you 
have a true comparison of both sides of the story. The story is 
enhanced by available exhibits, which can be clicked on for viewing.

My website is not meant to come off whinny, nor is it meant to sell 
you of my innocence. It is simply put there to display both sides of 
the story, and the facts. You don't have to read it to determine 
innocence or guilt, it is simply there for those who are simply 
interested. There are things in this story that will certainly make 
you think, especially for those who are considering buying a 
DeLorean from a remote location.

Quite simply, this is a lesson not just for myself, but for all. Too 
many a times have any of us, have looked/bought a DeLorean from a 
remote location and found out that the facts/description to be 
inaccurate/misrepresented. Somtimes this is unintential because 
those selling DeLorean's simply dont know what they have, and in 
other cases, are just trying to get rid of it no matter what. I hope 
that my lack of fortune, can benifit someone else so that they too, 
dont have to learn the hard lesson, that i've learned.

http://sellerbeware.5u.com

The court documents are in the MY STORY section.

Thanks for reading,

Sean M. Corbett, aka Prisoner#123543454-A whatever. =P




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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 15:18:42 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>
Subject: Re: delorean power steering??

Difference is that the BMW unit is completely electrical, like a 
servo/motor. No hydralics, no fluid lines, etc. Low current drain 
unless turning the car etc. It's all contained in the upper half of 
the steering column. Probably really expensive too. 

Dave

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "patrickdmc" <patrickdmc_at_dml_y...> wrote:
>    
>  I remember reading something about certain years of the Pontiac 
> Fiero also having an electric power steering pump. Something about 
> not having enough room when they first started putting the V-6 
engine 
> in, so they had to get creative. Not sure of the details like where 
> they put it, and if Pontiac used bigger alternators to run it. 
>  I'm sure the new BMW is a much cleaner unit than the 20 year old 
GM 
> technology but just wanted to add my 2 cents.
> 
> Patrick
> 001040
> 





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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:54:54 -0000
From: "d_rex_2002" <rich_at_dml_outernet-tech.net>
Subject: Re: delorean power steering??

Two other options:

The new Mini Cooper power steering (BMW part) may also be a good
donor for a Delorean power steering "grafted" transplant.  The
bad news is most of the Mini Cooper donor cars out there are from
front end collisions which may preclude an undamaged sterring unit.

The other option is to drop the Delorean body onto a full-size
Blazer or Bronco chassis and get 4WD with your power steering.

Later, 
Rich W. 

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> Jim, the father of wierd DeLorean conversions turning down a 
> challenge? 
> 
> Actually a thought that occurred to me was to check out a BMW (Z4)
> electric Power Steering setup. The power unit is built right into 
the 
> steering column, and the dimensions do not appear to be all that far 
> off (sorry - no tape measure at the time). My guess is that in 
> typical BMW fashion the controls are tightly integrated into the 
> car's computer system so there would be a fair amount of detail work 
> to figure out beyond just mounting it. And the power consumption is 
> probably NOT insignificant.  As an additional challenge, there's an 
> airbag to figure out. . . 
> 
> Dave Swingle
> 
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_j...> 
> wrote:
> > Power steering would require installing power steering/hydraulic 
> pressure
> > lines from the engine to the steering rack.  You would also need 
to 
> add a
> > power steering pump the engine somehow.  
> > 
> > Then you would need to install a power steering rack in the front 
> of the
> > car, which would be difficult given the small space given for the 
> rack.  
> > 
> > This conversion would be a pain, and would rob horsepower from the
> > engine.  You're probably better off getting a beater that has a 
> better
> > turning radius.  
> > 
> > 
> > Jim
> > 1537
> >




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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:14:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: delorean power steering??

Even Saturn has electric power steering.  A little
research should provide a unit that is workable and
probably less expensive than the BMW.

Don't quote me, but I think I have even seen an
aftermarket electric power steering unit for the
street rod crowd.  I'll check it out at SEMA.

Dick Ryan
VIN 16867

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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:45:42 -0500
From: "Brian McCool" <bjmccool_at_dml_comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Business Article

There are lies, more lies, and then there are statistics. How seriously can
you take this poll, 25% of people equate the same amount of credibility of
Carroll Shelby to Pamela Anderson!?!?! Lee Iacocca and John Delorean had
there biggest hey day in the media around the late 70's early 80's, so it
would stand to reason that there contributions to the auto industry in
general are overlooked by most people, especially most people under 25
(except for the under 25's on this list of course).
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "joshieloo1292" <Joshieloo_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:31 PM
Subject: [DML] Business Article


> I read a disturbing fact in the September 15 issue of BusinessWeek
> magazine. I have uploaded a scan to the Files section.  It's listed
> as "BusinessWeek 09 15 03 pg 14." Check it out..



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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 13:36:29 -0400
From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>
Subject: RE: DeLorean Scam Artist Goes To Jail

No thief is remorseful until they are caught so cry me a river. 

I could understand one circumstance that results in a bad sale due to the
chances for miscommunication, but FIVE? Holy mackerel! Your whole story puts
a bad taste in my mouth.

It just sucks that it had to be DeLoreans.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: thinkstainless [mailto:stldrgn_at_dml_delorean.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 6:47 AM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DML] DeLorean Scam Artist Goes To Jail
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> This is Sean Corbett again. 



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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 13:26:29 -0500
From: Warren Turkal <wturkal_at_dml_cbu.edu>
Subject: Re: delorean power steering??

On Friday 12 September 2003 10:18 am, Dave Swingle wrote:
> Difference is that the BMW unit is completely electrical, like a
> servo/motor. No hydralics, no fluid lines, etc. Low current drain
> unless turning the car etc. It's all contained in the upper half of
> the steering column. Probably really expensive too.

The Honda Civic Hybrids and Insights (I think) have electric systems like this 
one. Maybe it would be cheaper?

Warren Turkal
-- 
President, GOLUM, Inc.
http://www.golum.org




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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:59:03 -0400
From: "james" <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Carcoon sizes - humidity ' fans


The Size 4 Carcoon sold in the US is WIDER than the ones sold in the rest of the world. Technically referred to as a Size 4 (wide).

Two fans work better than one because of the problems associated with too little airflow...the guys at Carcoon have been doing this for years and know what they are doing.

Humidity isn´t the issue, David. I mean, we´re based in one of the most humid parts of the USA in Houston, Texas! What´s important is stopping condensation, which is caused by warm and cold air meeting. The two fans mean that temperatures changes are much less dramatic, and prevent moisture from ¨settling¨ on the car.

If you´ll be at the Fall Foliage Tour, I can explain it to you there.

James Espey
Replying late from Costa Rica on vacation! 




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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:04:48 -0400
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Re: sylvania silverstar conversion

I had an interesting "solution" the problem of acessing the headlight
tilt screws.  I replaced the phillips head bolts with allen head bolts. 
You can buy allen keys that have one end "balled" so that the allen key
will work from an angle, up to about 20 degrees.  It really simplifies
working around the fascia.  The allen bolts didn't have the notch in them
like the phillips, so I think I epoxied a nut on the allen bolt at the
proper spacing to "grip" the light for pull/push action.  I might have
double-nutted.  I forget.  Of course, they were stainless, and they don't
strip out anymore.

Just thought I'd chime in because I was being a naysayer about the power
steering conversion :P

Jim
1537


On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 00:01:08 EDT Soma576_at_dml_aol.com writes:
> Hey group,
> 
> i finished installing a set of four Sylvania Silverstar sealed-beam 
> headlamps. aside from the usual griping about the screws for the 
> headlights being 
> difficult to access under the fascia, it is simple to do because you 
> just swap 
> bulbs as opposed to using newer technology which requires more parts 
> and possibly 
> a new power source and balasts. 



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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:23:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: casey barlow <dmc1288mph_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: What to look for when buying?

Hi, I was wondering what are the most important
updates I need to look for when buying a DeLorean? Iam
planning on driving it weekly when I buy one. Thanks
Casey B.

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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 19:58:26 -0000
From: "checksix3" <jetjock11_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Tuning idle speed circuit


Johh, permit me to give you change back for your 2 cents. 

Where is the slight correction? Everything Martin stated is correct. 
While what you state is true, it's only valid during warmup. 
It's hard to have WOT enrichment without CPR enrichment? That's 
exactly how it's done after warmup. Control pressure is maxed and 
stays at that value. On a stock D there is no vacuum supplied to the 
CPR (and no acceleration enrichment) after warm up. And as Martin 
states, the ignition advance is disconnected during warm up. These 
vacuum sources are swapped when the thermo valve changes state at 
appx 130F. Quoting from the manual does not impy an understanding of 
how the CPR operates. The CPR is pretty much dead weight after 
warmup, seving only as a static regulator to keep control pressure at 
it's maximum regulated valve. Listen to Martin and H. McElcraft, they 
seem to understand the details of how this stuff actually works.

As for the delay valve, it's speced at 10 seconds but fwiw, I've 
never seen one take that long to bleed down.

I've removed my CPR and use a digital controller that performs both 
warmup and acceleration enrichment by PWM. It also permits full 
manual mixture management, allowing tuning by EGT. This improves 
highway fuel mileage and allows tuning for either best power or best 
economy during steady state cruise conditions. (Anyone knowledgable 
about operating piston powered aircraft engines will be familar with 
these techniques.) 

It switches back to an auto mode when it senses load changes. The 
stock CPR does not allow mitxure control after warmup, leaving it to 
the FV for emissions and to the airflow sensor geometry for 
acelleration. The facts are that mixture tuning can be done by 
manipulating either control pressure or FV duty cycle. If you do it 
with CP you need to fix the FV duty cycle during that time or the 
Lambda will attempt to correct your "mistake". 

After all, the Lambda system does not provide true stoichiometric 
combustion...it's shifted slightly to the rich side of peak EGT. Full 
control via the FV is a better way, leaving a static control pressure 
to provide plunger damping and to set the range the FV will operate 
around. (Controlling both at first provides a wide lattitude for 
experimentation if you've seriously modified the engine in any way.)

EGT monitoring (or by feedback loop) replaces the O2 sensor signal 
during this time but you'd better have a way to switch it back duirng 
load changes. For long highway drives over flat terrain you can't 
beat this system. You can even run slightly lean of peak as long as 
the induction air distribution is fairly decent, as it is in the 
stock D. An added benefit is that it keeps your pistons and valves 
very clean.


----original message----
From: John Hervey

>>Martin, Slight correction. Our WUR are equipped with a dual spring 
set up. When the throttle valve is open further at full load, the 
pressure in the intake manifold increases....>snip<

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Gutkowski<<

>>The vacuum enrichment on the DeLorean's CPR is only active under 
warm-up conditions, at which time the distributor vacuum is 
disconnected. As the CPR vac is removed, it is placed on the 
distributor (so to speak). Martin<<





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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:55:16 -0400
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: Car needed for Bikini Photo Shoot in the D.C./P.A. Area

A photographer contacted the Mid Atlantic Club officers and is looking
for a DeLorean to use in a bikini model photoshoot in the
D.C./Pittsburgh/Harrisburg area.  He has the model, just needs a car.
 
If you are interested, please directly contact Roger S. Conrad
[rogerc(at)pennswoods.net]
 
Kevin Abato
Vin# 16680


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Message: 24
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 01:37:51 -0000
From: "dmcorlando2003" <SundeQuick_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Re: Question about window regulators

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, FREDRAVAS_at_dml_a... wrote:
> i had the same problem before, what i did was install an extender 
made of 
> harden aluminum plate about an inch square drill 4 holes and bolt 
two to the 
> slider plate and two to the window bracket. mine works fine now. by 
extending the 
> slider it will not it will not go beyond the tube anymore. i hope 
this would 
> help you...have patience when doin this..

It isn't going out of the track at the top though....the lower part 
of the tube that comes directly out of the motor and curves has 
gotten bent and there for it was binding when the window was going up 
and the cable ws being pushed through the tube.  It couldn't easily 
go up the tube so it began to push the motor backwards.  This is what 
caused the motor and the tube to separate.  I was just wondering if 
the lower tube can be replace.  Luckily the top is no problem




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Message: 25
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 05:43:20 -0500
From: "Jerry Harry" <jlharry_at_dml_mcloudteleco.com>
Subject: Re: Tuning idle speed circuit

Well, My problem is not the vacuum its the idle speed motor.
Do these things have a failure history. Mine no longer hums when it should
or always did in the past and my idle no longer works at all.
    When I start it up it will run if I give it some gas and keep it running
that way, if I let it drop back to idle it will just die, makes no attempt
to run.  The idle switch is working and I have voltage on the motor plug but
the motor does not turn, nor have that little hum it had when all was
working.
John, Martin, David, what do I check next? Is it time for a new idle speed
motor?
Thanks for any input.
Jerry Harry
Vin# 4890
PS:
John, your tank fix works great and was easy to install. Thanks again.





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