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Date: Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:01 AM

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There are 21 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Tuning idle speed circuit
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>

2. Re: Re: no turn singles, marker lights, or 4-ways
From: Steve Deichman <swdeichman_at_dml_yahoo.com>

3. RE: delorean power steering??
From: "W.\"Ski\" Lukowski" <vegascop1_at_dml_lvcm.com>

4. Re: Tuning idle speed circuit
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

5. Tuning idle speed circuit
From: "checksix3" <jetjock11_at_dml_juno.com>

6. Re: Re: Electric DeLorean power steering??
From: Jan van de Wouw <delorean_at_dml_home.nl>

7. Power Sideview Mirror Switch Picture
From: "drdhdmd" <doctorDHD_at_dml_aol.com>

8. Delorean went BOOM
From: "bepositive2000" <BePositive2000_at_dml_Yahoo.com>

9. Re: Tuning idle speed circuit
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

10. RE: DeLorean Scam Artist Goes To Jail
From: "W.\"Ski\" Lukowski" <vegascop1_at_dml_lvcm.com>

11. DeLorean Scam
From: Enid <hispanicangeleyes_at_dml_yahoo.com>

12. Sean Corbett
From: Tom Watkins <dmctom_at_dml_earthlink.net>

13. Re: Sean Corbett
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>

14. Re: Delorean went BOOM
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

15. DeLorean in Hermiston OR?
From: "hodakaguy" <hodakaguy_at_dml_yahoo.com>

16. Re: Tuning idle speed circuit
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

17. Anyone watching Jeopardy?
From: "supremeadmiralsenn" <StadnickAd_at_dml_usa.irene.net>

18. Re: Sean Corbett
From: Louie Golden <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>

19. Sean Corbett
From: "checksix3" <jetjock11_at_dml_juno.com>

20. Instrument Panel Lights
From: "stevetrimble52" <stevetrimble52_at_dml_yahoo.com>

21. Re: delorean power steering??
From: Craig Clarke <mister_c_at_dml_telusplanet.net>





Message: 1
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 02:00:32 -0000
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Re: Tuning idle speed circuit

Sounds like you're right on top of it. If you have power at the plug 
and you tested the microswitch and it no longer hums....

(If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck...)

Mine was siezed from rust. I don't think they have a high failure 
rate but when the thing is 20+ years old...

I'd replace the durn thing and eliminate the question. In the 
meantime if you REALLY don't want to do it, you can talk to Bill 
Robertson and he'll tell you how to "de-plumb" your engine. He knows 
how to get rid of all the computer junk and make the engine run well 
without it.

I know I'll catch h&#) for even bringing it up. A lot of people 
disagree with his methods but I've seen his car and it runs well. I'm 
not doing it to mine but that's 'cause I'm a closet-historian.

Rich "please don't flame me" Acuti ;)

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Jerry Harry" <jlharry_at_dml_m...> wrote:
> Well, My problem is not the vacuum its the idle speed motor.
> Do these things have a failure history. Mine no longer hums when it 
should
> or always did in the past and my idle no longer works at all.
>     When I start it up it will run if I give it some gas and keep 
it running
> that way, if I let it drop back to idle it will just die, makes no 
attempt
> to run.  The idle switch is working and I have voltage on the motor 
plug but
> the motor does not turn, nor have that little hum it had when all 
was
> working.
> John, Martin, David, what do I check next? Is it time for a new 
idle speed
> motor?
> Thanks for any input.
> Jerry Harry
> Vin# 4890
> PS:
> John, your tank fix works great and was easy to install. Thanks 
again.




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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 19:15:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Deichman <swdeichman_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: no turn singles, marker lights, or 4-ways

found the problem!  in the switch on the dash.  In fact both the 4-way
switch and head light switch need replaced.  I was able to clean and get
the 4-ways and turns working.  The headlight switch has problems - any
idea where to find one??  Also need exhaust gaskets - my twin turbos don't
like fresh air!  thanks,
steve
 


David Teitelbaum <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net> wrote:
Another possability is that the wire connector to the fuse has backed
out of it's position in the fuse block. You aren't making contact with
it because it is out of reach. Like Harold said it is time to pull up
the fuse box and see what is going on in there.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Harold McElraft" wrote:
> The fuse slots in the circuits you mention (Fuses 2 and 8 are the 
> marker fuses) have a history of self destruction. > 
> Harold McElraft - 3354
> 
> 
> 
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Steve Deichman 
> wrote:
> > 
> > Need some help,
> > 
> > 
> > I have lost my marker lights, 4-ways, and turn singels. There is 
> no power at the
> > fuse box for RT or LT turn singles or horn/marker fuese? 
> > 



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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 20:12:08 -0700
From: "W.\"Ski\" Lukowski" <vegascop1_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: RE: delorean power steering??

Bob,

So what you are saying is that if you could squeeze in the power rack in
the front, there wouldn't be any problems to have the power steering
pump in the rear and run the houses to the front? Please let us know.

Ski 4649

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Brandys [mailto:BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 8:12 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] delorean power steering??


The main problem with power R&P in the D is the hole in the frame.  It 
is too small for a power R & P rack.

However, on my next Delorean project, we are planning to remove the 
stock tube and put in one large enough for a power R & P.  The may take 
the form of a SS frame for Ken.

The issue of horsepower can be resolved with newer power steering pumps.

 



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 04:09:16 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Re: Tuning idle speed circuit

Mine did same thing on its way out (would also stick full open
sometimes -- opposite problem but equally fun). That's when I
discovered manual idle speed circuit. If motor sticks closed, car will
not run without doing something else to let air into engine. If you
don't want to mess with brass idle screws can crack throttle plates
like an old fashioned carburetor (don't forget to lengthen idle
microswitch screw if you've still got Lamda, spark advance solenoid, etc).

My opinion of idle speed motor already known and unfortunately
inflammatory.

(John Hervey's tank baffle indeed improvement over factory design).

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Jerry Harry" <jlharry_at_dml_m...> wrote:
> Well, My problem is not the vacuum its the idle speed motor.
> Do these things have a failure history. Mine no longer hums when it
should
> or always did in the past and my idle no longer works at all.
>     When I start it up it will run if I give it some gas and keep it
running
> that way, if I let it drop back to idle it will just die, makes no
attempt
> to run.  The idle switch is working and I have voltage on the motor
plug but
> the motor does not turn, nor have that little hum it had when all was
> working.
> John, Martin, David, what do I check next? Is it time for a new idle
speed
> motor?
> Thanks for any input.
> Jerry Harry
> Vin# 4890
> PS:
> John, your tank fix works great and was easy to install. Thanks again.




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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 06:03:42 -0000
From: "checksix3" <jetjock11_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Tuning idle speed circuit

>>Well, My problem is not the vacuum its the idle speed motor.<<

They do fail, although it's usually a mechanical failure rather than 
electrical. If so they can be repaired if you have the proper tools.
In fact, if your's turns out to be bad I'd be happy to take it off 
your hands.

There is a straighforward procedure for checking the idle speed 
system and wiring, it can be done at the connector to the ECU. This 
assumes you have everything else (throttle linkage, etc) set up 
correctly. To check *only* the idle speed motor/valve, start the car 
and keep it running. (set the idle manually if needed.)

Disconnect the connector at the ECU and jumper terminals 1 and 4. 
Leave them jumpered and then jumper terminals 5 and 2. Rpm should 
increase. If engine rpm remains unchanged your idle speed motor/valve 
or the wiring to it is bad. 5 and 2 will drive it open, 3 and 2 will 
drive it closed. You could also do this with the motor off the car 
and watch it's response. 

Another way is to remove the tach input signal (push out terminal 12) 
to the ECU. This will set the idle motor to it's default position 
assuming its working. Then see if the car will at least run without 
you having to intervene. There are other ways to test the system 
depending on your skills and available equipment. If you want a 
complete procedure to test the entire system on the car (with minimal 
test gear) contact me off list. 




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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 10:59:29 +0200
From: Jan van de Wouw <delorean_at_dml_home.nl>
Subject: Re: Re: Electric DeLorean power steering??

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:14:57 -0700 (PDT), Dick Ryan wrote:

> Even Saturn has electric power steering.  A little
> research should provide a unit that is workable and
> probably less expensive than the BMW.

If size is realy that big of a deal, try searching
for an Electric PS-unit from a Smart. These little
Mercedes-enginered city cars are also rear-engined,
RWD and only feature a 3 cilinder 800cc turboed engine.

Have a look at <http://www.smart.com>, "unfortunately"
these funny little things are only distributed in Europe.

Good Luck,

JAN van de Wouw

Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 12:59:25 -0000
From: "drdhdmd" <doctorDHD_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Power Sideview Mirror Switch Picture

I have posted some of the pictures I took of the power side-view 
mirror switch. Let me know what you think.  Now that I have mine 
apart and fixed I need suggestions on how to hold it together.  Since 
my base plate, the plastic piece that has the wire terminals in it, 
is slighlty warped it seems to require alot of pressure to hold the 
switch together and maintain the electrical contacts inside.  I have 
never had good luck when glueing this kind of plastic.




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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 07:16:28 -0000
From: "bepositive2000" <BePositive2000_at_dml_Yahoo.com>
Subject: Delorean went BOOM

Hi Everyone,

It's been a couple long weeks.

You guys will probably get a BLAST out of this.  I did…LITERALLY. 

I just finished replacing a couple of bad rocker arms on the #4
cylinder.  The oiling holes were plugged and the cam eventually made a
concave slot in the rocker arms.  Cam looked fine.

After reassembling the head, intake, etc. and the first trial running,
the car failed to start.  I did hear a loud hissing sound.  Fuel
pressure  was good at 44 psi (I have a fuel pressure gauge installed
full-time).  After about a minute of cranking,  I heard what sounded
like a hissing sound.  Next attempt at starting, the hissing sound
repeated then a LOUD EXPLOSION!  

When the smoke cleared, there was no flame. However, the muffler was
BLOWN APART and my ears are still ringing!

Has anyone experienced this on a DMC or any other car for that matter?
  Any idea what I did wrong?  Any guess on what the explosion did to
the engine?

I was extremely careful in following the proper steps on removing &
replacing the head.  I've had the intake off of the car at least 4
times and am fairly knowledgeable in the fuel system.  I was very
careful to follow the head torque & angle tightening recommendations
to the T.  (I was ready to run the engine for about 30 minutes then
re-torque according to the manual when the explosion occurred.)

Using a short piece of box tubing, I made a bracket to secure the cam
chain sprocket before removing the cam. (I did not remove the timing
chain cover.)  I am positive this sprocket and chain did not move.

Since it was the 4-5-6 side, I was not able to visually see that the
#1 piston was at T.D.C.  However, I did remove the #1 plug, visually
look to see if the piston was at the top of the stroke, then I did 2
revolutions of the crank and waited for the surge of pressure from the
#1 cylinder to verify that I was at T.D.C.  It was at this point that
I set the distributor rotor to the #1 location as installed the
distributor.  

I marked the timing location of the distributor before removing it,
but unfortunately I did not note the location of the rotor.  There are
two identical marks on the crankshaft pulley and I thought the
procedure I followed would identify which one was correct,  (It worked
once before); however I am now wondering if I got the position off by
180 degrees (or 1/4 stroke).  This seems to make sense.  Valves would
open at the wrong time letting fuel run thru the engine and into the
exhaust without burning.  Then, after cranking for a period of time
sufficient vapor built up to the point that a plug ignited the fuel
all the way to the exhaust where there was the most vapor accumulated.
 Am I even close to being on the right track?   Also, does anyone know
why there are two marks and if there is a way to determine which is
which?  Was the #1 piston not finishing the compression stroke when I
felt the pressure in the cylinder and should I have waited another
half revolution of the crank to set T.D.C.?

I also verified  that all plug wires are to the right cylinders.

One last move that may have contributed to the explosion: I placed a
few drops of gas in the intake (just a few drops but probably a dumb
move).

Anyone interested in an "exploded view" of a Delorean muffler?

I have to admit it is difficult to maintain my normally positive
outlook and sense of humor after being so careful to do a quality job
and still having this happen.  I even shot photos of the various steps
in case someone else could benefit from my experience.







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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 15:12:28 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Tuning idle speed circuit

The idle speed motor does fail but it is not common. The best thing
would be if you could "borrow" a motor from another car just to test
it. If that gets your car to run right then you could order another
knowing that this will fix the problem. Another thing you could try is
to lubricate the upper and lower pivot points inside in the hope it is
just sticking and not burnt out. Even it you can get it to work this
way it is not a long term repair.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Jerry Harry" <jlharry_at_dml_m...> wrote:
> Well, My problem is not the vacuum its the idle speed motor.
> Do these things have a failure history. Mine no longer hums when it
should
> or always did in the past and my idle no longer works at all.
>     When I start it up it will run if I give it some gas and keep it
running
> that way, if I let it drop back to idle it will just die, makes no
attempt
> to run.  The idle switch is working and I have voltage on the motor
plug but
> the motor does not turn, nor have that little hum it had when all was
> working.
> John, Martin, David, what do I check next? Is it time for a new idle
speed
> motor?
> Thanks for any input.
> Jerry Harry
> Vin# 4890
> PS:
> John, your tank fix works great and was easy to install. Thanks again.




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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 20:12:08 -0700
From: "W.\"Ski\" Lukowski" <vegascop1_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: RE: DeLorean Scam Artist Goes To Jail

Mr. Corbett,

Please DO NOT blame e-Bay or anybody else for you stupidity and
immaturity!!! I have been doing business on e-Bay for few years now and
I have never ever had any propblems. You are the problem, you are the
fraud and I'm sure everyone here thinks that you should  die in prison!
Don't give us the sad story about your fiance and your two kids, we all
have life partners and children, that is only a curtain you want to hide
behind! Personally, I wouldn't report you to e-Bay, I would take care of
you myself! From experience I know that our justice system sucks and
unfortunately you will end up maybe possibly repaying the money you
ripped off and be placed on probation. If it was up to me you wouldn't
be wasting the air that you breath. People hate people that take
advantage of others, I'm one of them, I wish you would be kicked off
this forum too! 

Ski 4649

-----Original Message-----
From: thinkstainless [mailto:stldrgn_at_dml_delorean.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 3:47 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] DeLorean Scam Artist Goes To Jail


Greetings,

This is Sean Corbett again. In less than 10 hours from now, I will 
be going before a Judge in the Superior Court of Arizona to face the 
uncertain doom. For those who were victimized in my short 
lived "business", today will be the "justice" that they have been 
seeking. 



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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 04:13:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Enid <hispanicangeleyes_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: DeLorean Scam

  Couldn't agree with you more, Travis.  I hate people like this who wait in the wings for people who work 5-25 years for a car like this knowing how vulnerable people are when they truly desire something.  To know this involved DeLoreans is a slap in the face to all of us.  Butthead.  



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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 09:16:04 -0400
From: Tom Watkins <dmctom_at_dml_earthlink.net>
Subject: Sean Corbett

I have had enough of this idiots posts to our news group.   I feel it is 
inappropriate to allow this person to inject his hindsight whinning on 
our group.  He ripped people off.  He created this mess himself and 
wants to try to deflect it.  His emails to people are rude and come 
across as "what?  I'm an LLC and have no responsibilty for the accuracy 
of the ads"  Sorry Sean, Ebay rules clearly state that the person 
placing the ad represents it correctly.....that means you!  

Moderators, once again I ask you to reject posts from Sean Corbett.   
His lies about "seeing" the cars, disconnected phone numbers etc... are 
enough to make me sick. His lawyer doesn't even try to explain these 
acts.  Come on  dmcsales_at_dml_delorean.com.......sounds like 
misrepresentation to me!!!  Let's let Mr Corbett stew in his own juices 
without subjecting us to his futile attempt at absolution.  If he hadn't 
been caught he would still be in action doing the same thing so let's 
not listen to a crook who took our beloved car and made it into negative 
news story. With so many people trying to give our cars a positive 
public presence (our vendors, Ken K, DOA etc...) it is an affront to 
allow this person the time to vent on OUR newsgroup.   I hope you all agree

Respectfully







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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 15:28:16 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>
Subject: Re: Sean Corbett

The reason I let it through (along with the replies) is that it 
seemed a very pertinent follow up and closure to a problem that first 
appeared on the list last year. It's obviously of interest to the 
group, and a good warning to anyone considering buying a car sight-
unseen. Do your due diligence. 

He's only made two posts in the past two years, hardly over-use of 
the list. I don't think letting this through is going to change 
anyone's mind, in fact it sure seems from the replies that people are 
even madder at the guy. He looks to be getting his just deserts from 
the legal system. 

I don't for a minute think that he's going to get ANY sympathy in 
this group, in fact I was surprised that his lawyer let him do it. 
Looking at the information on his website didn't do a thing to change 
my opinion. At best what was done was ethically shady, at worst 
illegal, the opinion that really counts will be the judge (and his 
cell-mate's). 

Watch it on the follow-ups, anything overtly slanderous will get the 
boot. 

Dave S


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Tom Watkins <dmctom_at_dml_e...> wrote:
> I have had enough of this idiots posts to our news group.   I feel 
it is 
> inappropriate to allow this person to inject his hindsight whinning 
on 
> our group. .....
With so many people trying to give our cars a positive 
> public presence (our vendors, Ken K, DOA etc...) it is an affront 
to 
> allow this person the time to vent on OUR newsgroup.   I hope you 
all agree
> 
> Respectfully




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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 15:29:16 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Delorean went BOOM

For the muffler to explode you had to have filled it with unburned
fuel and then it ignited. I would check to see if the camshaft is
really all right after ruining the rocker arms. Get a micrometer on
it.  A missfiring cylinder or the cold start valve staying on would be
my first thoughts. You are correct in that a way off timing problem
could cause this (like having the camshaft way off). To check the
engine for damage I would try a compression test. This will also give
you a hint if the camshaft is way off if you can't get compression on
some cylinders. You may have blown out the exhaust manifold gaskets
and destroyed the O2 sensor and possibly damaged the catalytic
converter. You are lucky no one was hurt. I had a similar experience
but in that case the engine had a burnt exhaust valve and it only blew
the exhaust pipes apart when it backfired.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757 


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "bepositive2000" <BePositive2000_at_dml_Y...>
wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> It's been a couple long weeks.
> 
> You guys will probably get a BLAST out of this.  I did…LITERALLY. 
> 
> I just finished replacing a couple of bad rocker arms on the #4
> cylinder.  The oiling holes were plugged and the cam eventually made a
> concave slot in the rocker arms.  Cam looked fine.
> 





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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 17:04:12 -0000
From: "hodakaguy" <hodakaguy_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: DeLorean in Hermiston OR?

A fellow co-worker said he has seen a DeLorean driving around in 
Hermiston OR, has anyone seen this car or know who it belongs to?  I 
live close by and would like to get in touch with them.  Thanks, Tom 
Clouse

VIN# 01063




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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 23:44:39 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: Tuning idle speed circuit

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Jerry Harry" <jlharry_at_dml_m...> wrote:
> Well, My problem is not the vacuum its the idle speed motor.
> Do these things have a failure history. Mine no longer hums when it
should
> or always did in the past and my idle no longer works at all.
>     When I start it up it will run if I give it some gas and keep it
running
> that way, if I let it drop back to idle it will just die, makes no
attempt
> to run.  The idle switch is working and I have voltage on the motor
plug but
> the motor does not turn, nor have that little hum it had when all was
> working.
> John, Martin, David, what do I check next? Is it time for a new idle
speed
> motor?
> Thanks for any input.
> Jerry Harry
> Vin# 4890

Checking for voltage on the plug that connects to the Idle Speed Motor
is a good start, but it's not everything that you need to do. More
importantly, you'll need to check for solid continuity on all 3 wires.
Use a Voltmeter, and check that when supplied with a full 12V, each of
the wires is able to pass said voltage thru with minimal resistance. I
had the EXACT same symptoms as you, and found that the one of the
wires wasn't passing full voltage. When tested, it was only
registering 8V or so. I grafted in a new wire in it's place, and the
Idle Speed Motor ran just fine.

This procedure isn't difficult at all. You just need to remove the
access panel behind the drivers seat, and the Idle Speed ECU is right
there on top. Pull the 2 plugs (checking of corse for corrosion, and
cleaning the contacts if nessisary), and utilize the 12V feed wire
there as your source for testing power. While you're at it, you can
also check the ground connecction, and the Microswitch to verify that
ALL will allow the full 12V to pass thru them.

You know that the engine will not idle because it doesn't have the
airflow to keep running. And while the ISM is the prime/logical source
of failure in this case, you don't know for certain that it is the
root of the problem, and not something else in the Idle Speed Circuit.
To check if the motor is rusted into place, simply remove it, grip it
like a doorknob, and shake it back and forth. You should hear a loud
"CLICK!" "CLACK!" from the the valve/impeller assembly inside as it
freely spins, slapping the metal stops that limit is movement. If not,
then you'll know it's rusted.

It most definatly is much more work than simply replacing the Idle
Speed Motor. But becuase I skipped this step, I wasted some good cash
on unessisarily purchasing a new ISM. Of course, since I had a new
ISM, I got to gut the old one to see just how everything works inside
(check the archives from about 2 years ago for a post I wrote that
explains the entire Motor/Circuit function in detail).

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"




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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 23:44:50 -0000
From: "supremeadmiralsenn" <StadnickAd_at_dml_usa.irene.net>
Subject: Anyone watching Jeopardy?

This was just on Jeopardy tonight: 

The designer of the Pontiac GTO, later designed a sports car he 
named for himself

Who Is JOHN DELOREAN?

I was so startled I almost fell out of my chair!




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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 10:00:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Louie Golden <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Re: Sean Corbett

For those who haven't caught on by now, all this guy wants is fame. If you've read his posts and website, it's pretty apparent. His comparing his misadventures in ebay to DeLorean's life long career is a prime example. So before you go and chew him out, just remember you'd be doing EXACTLY what he wants of you. So if no one has any sympathy for him, and everyone wants him to just disappear... try not responding to his attempts for attention. Then he'll go away.

Louie Golden
VIN 10115

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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 20:38:31 -0000
From: "checksix3" <jetjock11_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Sean Corbett

My compliments to moderator Swingle, his comments were dead on.
It's guys like him and Bruce B that may yet alter my opinion of 
moderated groups.

As a former LEO I have no sympathy for Corbett but there is only one 
fact as it applies to this group and that is none of us know all the 
facts. In spite of what's on his site we know nothing of the real 
intricacies of his case. Based on his site he made some big mistakes 
and yet the level of malice aforethought seems minimal. When he's 
sentenced it'll be more for for stupidity than anything else.

I quit law enforcement because I was disgusted at how the "justice" 
system eats up and spits out innocent people on a routine basis. I'm 
not saying Corbet is such a man, I'm only saying you'd all better 
pray to God you never get caught up in this grinding machine for 
something that in truth is fairly minor...or even false. And you're 
clueless if you think it can't happen to you as long as you remain 
a "law abiding citizen".

I doubt he'll receive any real jail time, even in AZ. As for those 
doing all the whining, it's folks like you that contaminate juries 
all over America on a daily basis. 

And it's been said before and I'll say it again: Get a life. It's 
just friggin car...and not a very good one at that.




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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 02:31:55 -0000
From: "stevetrimble52" <stevetrimble52_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Instrument Panel Lights

I am continuing my battle with electrical woes. How do you access 
the bulbs in the instrument panel? My low fuel lamp does not work 
and if I understand the instructions, the Tankzilla will not operate 
without the low fuel lamp operating properly.
Also does any one know what the rear lourved panel over the engine 
compartment is made of and can it be sandblasted? Mine has been 
painted with a spray can and poorly done to say the least. If 
possible I was thinking of sandblasting and then having it powder 
coated.

Thanks,
Steve T
 




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Message: 21
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 21:24:06 -0600
From: Craig Clarke <mister_c_at_dml_telusplanet.net>
Subject: Re: delorean power steering??

Hi all,
I have a 1986 Nissan Skyline GTS-X which has an electric power steering rack in
it.  It looks to me, it's just a regular hydralic rack with an electric pump. I know the
rack is a right hand drive rack, but maybe it could be turned over or just the
electrical side of the system be used with a suitable sized power rack from a
conventional system.
A power system sure would make our D's easier to park.



Dave Swingle wrote:

> Difference is that the BMW unit is completely electrical, like a
> servo/motor. No hydralics, no fluid lines, etc. 



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