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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1668
Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 5:47 AM

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There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. RIP VIN 10115
From: Louie Golden <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>

2. Manassas Delorean Sighting
From: wmack <wmack_at_dml_vt.edu>

3. Warm engine sluggishness...
From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>

4. The Car that eats speedometers
From: "Scott Cagle" <dmc83n99_at_dml_cox.net>

5. Removing the Fuel Pump
From: "anaheim_21" <anaheim_21_at_dml_yahoo.com>

6. Re: BackUp-light Switch
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

7. Transmission-Clutch-Linkage Trouble?
From: wmack <wmack_at_dml_vt.edu>

8. Hurricane protection
From: "Kramer" <jettaman95_at_dml_yahoo.com>

9. 1,212.1 Mile almost trouble free Road Trip
From: Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com>

10. Re: The Car that eats speedometers
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

11. Re: Warm engine sluggishness...
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

12. Wiring harness
From: "jchapelhow" <chapelhow_at_dml_hotmail.com>

13. Fuel Injector Cleaners
From: "anaheim_21" <anaheim_21_at_dml_yahoo.com>





Message: 1
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 21:07:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Louie Golden <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: RIP VIN 10115

Unfortunately I have to report the loss of another DeLorean tonight. On my way back to school from my parents house, a drunk driver crossed the center line and hit me. I'm going to be ok, but my DeLorean is gone. Hopefully I'll be a DeLorean owner again in the near future.

Louie Golden
VIN 10115 (formerly)

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 08:41:10 -0400
From: wmack <wmack_at_dml_vt.edu>
Subject: Manassas Delorean Sighting

A coworker told me this morning he was walking into the Lowe's in Manassas, 
Virginia.  He saw a Delorean driving up and immediately jumped in front of it 
and started to perform a little dance.  Much to his embarrassment the Delorean 
he was dancing in front of was not me.  
I apologize for my coworker, I hope he didn't scare you.  
However,  this is the first I've heard of a D in Manassas, I would like to get 
together sometime.  If you are on the list please email me. 
Willie Mack
Vin 5043
wmack_at_dml_dietzegc.com




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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:12:15 -0400
From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>
Subject: Warm engine sluggishness...

Alright, thanks to John H I got a new O2 sensor in place and a lot of my
warm engine sluggishness disappeared, but there is still a hint of it. Once
it was warmed up I decided to test acceleration straight uphill. It was
still slow, but the acceleration was there (before replacing the sensor I
would have been stuck). 

It still seems like the lambda system is acting funky since this is a warm
engine problem. Maybe the lambda relay is bad?



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 08:23:05 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
From: "Scott Cagle" <dmc83n99_at_dml_cox.net>
Subject: The Car that eats speedometers

 
Ok guys, I know all the speedo posts that have been done in the   past, but
this one is really starting to wear on me.  I recently put my fourth angle
drive on this car, and that's including 2 of the Grady versions of them.  It
worked great for 28 miles, but then in the middle of one of the worst rain
storms I have seen since I've been in Pensacola, it quit working.  I checked
the angle drive, it's turning.  The lower cable is brand new, and it also
turns, independently as well as when hooked to the angle drive.   It seems
like after I unhook it and work on it in various ways, it works up to around
30 mph then quits.  Has anyone else had this issue, or does my car just
really not like the thought of having an 85 mph speedometer?


ARRRGGHHH!!!!

Scott
 
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:24:09 -0000
From: "anaheim_21" <anaheim_21_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Removing the Fuel Pump

I'm trying to replace mt fuel pump in my car and I cannot get the 
nuts removed from the pump and fuel lines.  

If anyone has a step-by-step procedure to follow I would greatly 
appreciate all your help!

Thanks!

Greg
6598




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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:35:52 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: BackUp-light Switch

Renault 30, same as transmission. I'm putting this to the list because 
Jan lives in Holland and Renault parts should be easy to get

Martin


Jan van de Wouw wrote:

>Anyone know an X-ref for the switch for the reverse lights?
>Mine is busted;



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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 12:30:56 -0400
From: wmack <wmack_at_dml_vt.edu>
Subject: Transmission-Clutch-Linkage Trouble?

List,

A while back I noticed stiffness when shifting into 5th gear.  Then it became 
a two hand shift to get the car into 5th.  
Now I have noticed that the car is starting to kick me out of 2nd gear, and 
sometimes when I try to shift quickly it just misses and grinds and I have to 
make the jump from 1st to 3rd.  
I replaced the cable that goes from the shift lever back to the transmission 
last summer.   That solved the 5th gear problem.  
But now that problem is back and now I am having trouble with 2nd gear.  Does 
this sound like a transmission, clutch, or linkage problem?

Thanks
 Willie Mack
  Vin 5043




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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:45:12 -0000
From: "Kramer" <jettaman95_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Hurricane protection

Dear List,
  As you all know by now that huricane Isabel is slowly coming up the 
coast and may hit the eastern seaboard. As we all know that rain and 
Deloreans make for a costly mess. My problem is that I only have two 
car covers and nowhere safe to put my car (garage,storage, etc.) If 
anyone has anyway to protect a car in this event please post 
something. Any information would be appreciated and I really could go 
without my Delorean getting damaged or something else happening.
    Thanks,
      ~Kramer
      #10610




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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:23:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: 1,212.1 Mile almost trouble free Road Trip

A cousin's wedding in Greenville, SC made for a fast, fun, long driving weekend.
Anyone coming up from the South East for Pigeon Forge make sure you cruise I-40
thru the mountians. I got behind Nissan Spyder & had a blast. I won't reccomend
the speeds at which I was traveling but the drive was sure fun.

Be sure to carry extra belts in your traveling toolkits!!!!!
All those miles and only had one small problem. AC Belt decided to loose about a
foot's lenth of teeth somewhere in NC. I'm not a boyscout but I was prepared and
had extra belts with me. Out of convience, time and a hot engine I opted to just
cut the  remains off, purchase a new belt and change it the next morning after
cooling.

At the wedding the Rolls Royce limo driver was a friend of the family who
happened to be a mechanic that was intamently (sp?) familiar with the PRV engine
& has two D customers in Greenville - Travis G.? , Bueller? Learned much just
chatting with him. Anyone in the Greenville area need a mechanic? His name is
Mitch Madden. Contact me off list if you need me to get his number.

I'm sorry I guess I had more than one problem on the trip. The people who drive
in the left lane thinking it is the right lane. I'm lexdisic and even I know the
Left lane is for passing . . . right? 

Josh, did you hear me beep'n going thru Cinnci!  :-P

11,689.9 miles in less than 7 months. I love driving this car!
Looking forward to another long road trip to Evansville in 2 weeks!

Shannon Y
16506

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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:00:39 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: The Car that eats speedometers

Make sure the plastic drive disc is FIRMLY captured between the rim
and the hub. Wrap it with tape if you have to so it doesn't slip. Make
sure the square hole that the inner cable fits into in the center is
still square and not round. If the bracket for the lower speedo cable
is missing or broken replace it. Finally be sure the length of the
inner speedo cables (upper AND lower)is correct. If it is too short it
will slide to one end and not turn what it is supposed to. Don't
forget to lube the cables and the angle drive once in a while.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Scott Cagle" <dmc83n99_at_dml_c...> wrote:
>  
> Ok guys, I know all the speedo posts that have been done in the  
past, but
> this one is really starting to wear on me.  I recently put my fourth
angle
> drive on this car, and that's including 2 of the Grady versions of
them.  It
> worked great for 28 miles, but then in the middle of one of the
worst rain





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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:08:58 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Warm engine sluggishness...

If the Lambda relay was bad the Lambda would not work at all. Poor
acceleration when hot could be a lot of things. Start with a tune-up
after making sure the brakes aren't dragging. You may have to have the
mixture screw adjusted. Vacuum leaks can also cause this. So can a
plugged up catalytic converter (which can happen from a bad O2
sensor). I would check the mechanical and vacuum advance. Try a tank
of Premium octane fuel.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_v...> wrote:
> Alright, thanks to John H I got a new O2 sensor in place and a lot of my
> warm engine sluggishness disappeared, but there is still a hint of
it. Once





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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:11:45 -0000
From: "jchapelhow" <chapelhow_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Wiring harness

All.

Many electrical problems are stopping me enjoying my car. The turn 
indicators only work when they are the only electrical system in use, 
LHS door lights only work with the key in ignition, gauges fluctuate 
with power load (even before the car is started!).

Let us suppose that I had decided to cut my losses and cure my 
electrical problems by replacing the entire front electrical harness, 
aside from the cost of the item from DMCH (or other chosen supplier) 
there does not seem to be any info in the manual for how this is 
achieved. Specifically I would like to rule out the front/main 
harness connection point as the cause of my headaches but it is not 
obvious where the front/main harness join. If I look at the DMCH 
parts exploded diagram it looks like there should be an obvious 
connector block, does anyone have any ideas where?

As a further aid to diagnostics is there an easily accessible ground 
point anywhere under the dash, this would avoid the cabling to the 
connecions by the front wheel,allowing help me rule out these wires 
as a contributing factor.

Finally any pictures of how to remove the instument panel/binnacle 
would be very gratefully received.

John Chpaelhow
MMG 287W : 'Boeing' #0737






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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:34:30 -0000
From: "anaheim_21" <anaheim_21_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Fuel Injector Cleaners

3M makes a fuel injector cleaner that is supposed work great.  Has 
anyone on the DML run fuel system cleaners through their systems?  
What were the results?




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