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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1692
Date: Thursday, October 02, 2003 5:17 AM

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There are 11 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. RE: HOW MANY HOSES
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>

2. RE: New Delorean Product
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>

3. Re: Parts Updates
From: Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>

4. Re: insurance buyback questions
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>

5. Re: Re: Engine Mods
From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj_at_dml_yahoo.com>

6. Goodyear Eagle GT II, Where to buy?
From: Scott Tester <scott_at_dml_delorean.com>

7. RE: Funny Delorean Stories
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_mchsi.com>

8. fuel lines
From: John Podlewski <john_podlewski_at_dml_yahoo.com>

9. Re: Funny Delorean Stories
From: abatt10347_at_dml_aol.com

10. Re: Goodyear Eagle GT II, Where to buy?
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

11. fuel hoses
From: John Podlewski <john_podlewski_at_dml_yahoo.com>





Message: 1
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:41:13 -0700
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>
Subject: RE: HOW MANY HOSES

There are 11 vacuum hoses on the upper part of the engine. They are all in
my silicone vacuum hose kit. $49.95 Life Warranty.
John Hervey
www.specialtauto.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com [mailto:Soma576_at_dml_aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 10:58 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] HOW MANY HOSES


In a message dated 9/30/03 11:25:58 AM Central Daylight Time,
john_podlewski_at_dml_yahoo.com writes:

> How many vacuum hoses are there?  I've got the main three connected  from
> the thermal control valve to the correct places I think? I've got the one
to
> the dist. to the solenoid and the other three short hoses to the warm-up
> regulator and of coarse the purge valve the intake manifold but is there
any
> others?  Because as stated before I had an extra one.

Hmm....

3 hoses from thermal control valve. one goes to manifold vac, one to the
CPR,
one to the advance solenoid.

from the one hose that goes to the CPR from the TCV, it branches off into a
loop with the vacuum delay valve for a 20 sec wait until upper and lower
chamber equalization under full throttle. there should be a T intersection
with one
side going into the front of the CPR, and other going into the vacuum delay
valve (not mounted on anything, just hangs there), and then to the back of
the
CPR (back is rear of car, not back of engine).

1 short hose goes from the advance solenoid to the vacuum advance diaphragm
on the side of the distributor.

1 hose goes from the bundle coming out of the charcoal canister in the
driver's side pontoon and goes down into the lower half of the air meter
assembly
(long hose).

1 thick hose goes from the side of the oil cap to the cold start valve pipe
(PCV system)

1 thinner hose goes from the charcoal canister to the cold start valve pipe
also (EVAP purge system)

There are also a few hoses that go to the climate control system and the
brake booster, but I assume those weren't touched?  IIRC, they are not
visible
outside of the pontoon, so i doubt a mechanic would find them unless he
really
dug around.

Andy



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:57:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>
Subject: RE: New Delorean Product

Yes, I also thought it was a cool idea. However, if you take this into
production, will you be looking at creating a bottom for the car? There's
something very weird about two top halves of a car.

-Christian

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Scott Mueller wrote:

> The Key Car is a clever idea.
>
> When I was in College a friend ask me what I would like for Christmas, I
> said a Red Ferrari.
>
> She gave me a "Key Car" which was the size of a Hot wheels and had a regular
> sized key sticking in the back of it.  You squeeze the key and the car would
> shoot forward.  It was a fun toy for those boring days in the design lab.
>
> Let me know via direct email when you have additional "Key Cars" available
> for sale.
> Scott.a.mueller (at) mchsi.com
>
> Scott Mueller
> 002981
> RNDOLA
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rustproof [mailto:Rustproof_at_dml_prodigy.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:44 PM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DML] New Delorean Product
>
>
> If anyone's interested, I've posted a New Delorean Product that may interest
> you guys (and ladies) on ebay along with a Driver's side torsion bar that I
> yanked from my parts vehicle and a hood from an 82. You can view them at the
> following three links:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2192933004&category=418&r
> d=1
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10076&item=2433563117
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10076&item=2433564723
>
> I would appreciate any feedback you may have regarding the new
> product...Thanks! Rustproof Vin #1559
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 17:03:43 -0500
From: Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>
Subject: Re: Parts Updates

Keep up the good work James

BOB




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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 22:34:51 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>
Subject: Re: insurance buyback questions

Probably because they had zero salvage value to the insurance 
company. You saved them hauling away something that would have been 
crushed into about $20 worth of scrap steel. Neither of those cars 
has any value as spare parts. 

Louie needs to convince the insurance company that the DMC is in the 
same category. 

Dave

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_s...> wrote:
> Louie,
> 
> I got my 82 camaro back for free.
> I got my 75 olds back for free




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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:38:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Engine Mods

I dont know about that, but the way it was done on
01860 was with a secondary fuel injection system, and
a MAP sensor.

When the boost comes on, so does the secondary
injection system.  

Although that suplimental fuel injection system is not
"stock", if this was a turbo-kit engine I would
consider dumping the Bosh fuel injection system and
replacing it with a EFI system that is "turbo aware". 
However, I want to keep the engine as stock as
possible so no one shoots me.  I get enuff complaints
that I even drive the car!

--- Donald Ekhoff <ekhoff_at_dml_seagullsolutions.net> wrote:
<SNIP>

> The mechanic suggested modifying the Bosch mixture
> control unit by removing
> the plunger and machining a little more taper into
> the plunger such that it
> flowed more fuel at the higher air flows encountered
> at boost. Seemed
> reasonable to me but before I attempt it I was
> wondering if anyone on the
> DML has any experience with the process. This would
> be a irreversible mod to
> a very expensive component.
> 

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:43:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott Tester <scott_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Goodyear Eagle GT II, Where to buy?

My DeLorean has the original NCTs and is long overdue for some new tires. I've called several Goodyear dealers in the San Francisco Bay area and none seem to have them. Most claim that the tire line has been discontinued, even though the Goodyear website still has them listed. Further research reveals that the website lists the 235/60 15 but not the 195/60 14.

Anyone know where I can find a complete set of these tires before they are completely gone?

Thanks!

Scott Tester     scott(at)delorean(dot)com


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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 18:32:56 -0500
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_mchsi.com>
Subject: RE: Funny Delorean Stories

Your story about sniffles and his posse reminded me about my first show in
Half Moon Bay, Pacific Coast Dream Machines in 1997.

We were set up and had a large number of people stop by and ask a lot of
questions.  A couple of kids came by with cameras taking pictures.  I asked
them if they wanted to sit in the car and I would take there picture.  Of
course they wanted to.  A little later a couple of girls and a guy, I guess
they were punk rockers, spiked hair, leather with studs and heavy black
boots came buy and wanted to sit in the car.  I told them no.  They
challenged me and I said that with there boots and the studs on there
clothes I was not going to let them scuff up the seats and carpets.  They
got loud and obnoxious, but I stood my ground.  They would not leave and I
was getting a little nervous about the way things were headed.  Then several
bikers, Harley riders, rough beards, showed up.  I figured well how much
worse can this get.  This mean looking biker came up to me and asked if
these baby punks were giving me a bad time.  The punks looked at the biker
and then looked at me and turned around and left.  I thanked the Bikers and
they left.  You never know when or where a friend will show up.

I have noticed when I am driving and I am near a biker, they always give me
a thumbs up.  I guess us D owners are rebels too.

Scott Mueller
002981
RNDOLA


-----Original Message-----
From: Louie Golden [mailto:louie_at_dml_delorean.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:53 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] Funny Delorean Stories


I had a really interesting experience a while back. Bill Robertson and
myself were coming back from the SEDOC meet, and Bill's DeLorean decided to
rupture a coolant hose in west Charlotte at about 10pm. For those who don't
know, west Charlotte is a tad shady to say the least. 

Snipped by Scott

He actually opened up the door at one point and plopped down into the seat.
I was just amazed... I'd never seen anyone act like this in my entire life.
I just didn't know how to react. I probably would have reacted a lot more
negatively had I not been seriously outnumbered by his very large
counterparts (I'm not tiny either... I'm about 6'3" tall). I don't think
Bill ever heard a single word of the event. Well, Sniffles finally got bored
with the car, and got peeved and told his buddies that he didn't want the
thing anyways, and that "let's go get some sniffles and go to tha club," and
they hopped in their car and sped off. Anyhow... I've had all sorts of crazy
people come up and say the most rediculous things to me when driving a
DeLorean... but this event takes the cake of the craziest encounter... lol.

-Louie Golden
VIN- Coming again very soon :-)




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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 17:40:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Podlewski <john_podlewski_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: fuel lines

In what order do the fuel lines attach to the fuel distributor especially the three large ones on the right side.  Am a little confused on which hole on the side of the fuel distributor that the f.v attach's to.   A which is the feed line and the return line and where do they go?  Toward the back of the f.d ( toward front of car) or the other way around can't remember.  I know two go together but which two and again which hole and where does the third large hose go???   By the way all the smaller fuel hoses I remember and drew those out.     THANKS. 



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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:29:58 EDT
From: abatt10347_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Funny Delorean Stories

Scott,
Some Delorean owners fall into that biker catorgory too!
Bruce
Vin # 06569
RNDOMTA


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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 02:00:13 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Goodyear Eagle GT II, Where to buy?

If you can't find them locally try tirerack.com. The prices are good
but you will have to pay shipping and then get them mounted and
balanced. I was going to go that way but after figuring what most
shops in my area wanted for the mounting and balancing and the
shipping it came out about the same to get them locally (the Michelins
that is). Go to the Goodyear website and try to find a large stocking
dealer in your area. The Michelins are a little more but IMHO they are
worth it. I know this won't mean much because I never drove a Delorean
on the new Goodyear's, only on the old NCT's. I have used Michelins on
my other cars and I only have good things to say about Michelin. They
ride well and wear well. I have heard bad things about Goodyear, not
on this particular tire. In any case you will be much happier with new
tires over the old NCT's.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Scott Tester <scott_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> My DeLorean has the original NCTs and is long overdue for some new
tires. I've called several Goodyear dealers in the San Francisco Bay
area and none seem to have them. Most claim that the tire line has
been discontinued, even though the Goodyear website still has them
listed. Further research reveals that the website lists the 235/60 15
but not the 195/60 14.
> 
> Anyone know where I can find a complete set of these tires before
they are completely gone?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Scott Tester     scott(at)delorean(dot)com
> 
> 
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:40:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Podlewski <john_podlewski_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: fuel hoses

Nope, I had that diagram and used it greatly but still confused on the three large fuel hoses to the distributor (seemed kind of backwards to me) and where they go as far as port #8, #9, #11 I think?


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