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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1701
Date: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 10:31 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: LED's in A/C panel
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

2. Re: Supercharger & modified PRVs
From: Josh Keady <joshkeady_at_dml_softhome.net>

3. RE: LED's for A/C panels lights
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>

4. British or American?
From: "jpaulkelman" <Paul.KELMAN_at_dml_total.com>

5. Re: Tuning, tuning and more tuning.
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>

6. Re: British or American?
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

7. Re: British or American?
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

8. Re: British or American?
From: "John Dore" <dmcjohn_at_dml_hotmail.com>

9. Re: British or American?
From: Louie Golden <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>

10. Re: Tuning, tuning and more tuning.
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

11. Strange carb/intake Delorean on ebay
From: "Jason Rowe" <rowejj_at_dml_tds.net>

12. Upcoming DeLorean sighting - Mythbusters
From: Marty Lick <mlick27_at_dml_yahoo.com>

13. Re: British or American?
From: id <ionicdesign_at_dml_execpc.com>

14. recharge A/C
From: "Spinler-Waid, Iris" <iris.spinler-waid_at_dml_honeywell.com>

15. Re: British or American?
From: <eric_at_dml_seviernet.com>

16. Delorean 800 # card
From: "Gregory K. Deeter" <office_at_dml_philatelic.com>

17. Re: Upcoming DeLorean sighting - Mythbusters
From: Justin <voodoonova_at_dml_yahoo.com>

18. Re: Delorean 800 # card
From: "armac.rm" <armac_at_dml_rocketmail.com>

19. Re: Re: British or American?
From: "Rustproof" <Rustproof_at_dml_comcast.net>

20. 365 Days of Duct Tape
From: "Toby Peterson" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>

21. Re: LED's for A/C panels lights
From: "aaron_t_graham" <aaron_t_graham_at_dml_yahoo.com>

22. Re: Victimized Monster Garage Delo
From: "Tomcio" <tomcio_at_dml_gtemail.net>

23. Re: Upcoming DeLorean sighting - Mythbusters
From: abatt10347_at_dml_aol.com

24. Intake/carb setup on Ebay Delorean again
From: "Jason Rowe" <rowejj_at_dml_tds.net>

25. Re: recharge A/C
From: benjamin strand <benjamin_strand_at_dml_yahoo.com>





Message: 1
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 03:23:09 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Re: LED's in A/C panel

Suspect concern is constant heat from bulbs in factory configuration.
Any of the mods that move panel circuit directly from aux relay should
satisfy.

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> The problem with LEDs as a replacement for standard bulbs is that they 
> are extremely directional - think of them as mini spotlights. Anything 
> that relies on a diffused light source will not look any good with an 
> LED.  The AC panel is an example - you'll get 4 spots on the panel and 
> very little else
> 
> Martin
> 
> Tom Watkins wrote:
> 
> >Let me be more specific.......does anyone have the actual LED stock 
> >number/part number that are the replacement equivalent to the
lights in 
> >the A/C bezel?
> >There are so many types and sizes that I want to make sure I get the 
> >right ones.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >  
> >




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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 20:58:30 -0700
From: Josh Keady <joshkeady_at_dml_softhome.net>
Subject: Re: Supercharger & modified PRVs

Just because it doesn't look nice doesn't mean it doesn't work 
nicely... I've seen some whacky sheet metal manifolds that make crazy 
power.

Josh

On Tuesday, October 7, 2003, at 06:02 PM, Soma576_at_dml_aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 10/7/2003 6:52:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> louie_at_dml_delorean.com writes:
>
>>
>> Speaking of modified PRVs... has anyone else seen this carbureted one 
>> on ebay? It's got an entirely different intake
>> manifold and everything.
>
> Looks to me like a damn mess!
> The intake looks like something someone welded together with aluminum 
> A/C ducting.  it would be interesting to know the whole story.
>
> Andy
>




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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:54:37 -0700
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>
Subject: RE: LED's for A/C panels lights

Tom & Group
I will be going to the SEMA Show in Vegas the end of this month. One of the
things I will be looking for is a affordable line of LED's for the Delorean.
I will be taking a list of all the bulbs and trying to put a package
together. But, What Martin  and I have said about led's. The further away
you get from looking straight in on them the worse they get. I have some Jam
Strait #194 for the dash in front of me now, but they won't work because of
the angle.
John Hervey
www.specialtauto.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Watkins [mailto:dmctom_at_dml_earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 5:51 PM
To: DMC News Group
Subject: [DML] LED's for A/C panels lights


Hi,

Does anyone have  a source for LED's to replace the lights in the A/C
bezel panel so it runs cooler?  It would include the warning bulbs ie:
door lock, defrost etc... as well as the regular illumination.

Thanks

Tom
#05732



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 10:07:32 -0000
From: "jpaulkelman" <Paul.KELMAN_at_dml_total.com>
Subject: British or American?

Hello all,

This is my first posting but I've followed the list for years.

I was at a car show last weekend in my home city Aberdeen, Scotland 
and there were a few American cars namely a Corvette, Trans Am's,
AMC Pacer and a few others. There was an empty space amongst these 
which was supposed to be filled by a Knight Rider replica car & I 
thought it would have been nice to see a Delorean in there.

Then I thought, is a DeLorean British or American?  The company was 
funded by the British tax payer & built here but the DeLorean Motor 
Company was American wasn't it?

This is quite confusing. If I bought a Ford Fiesta. Is it British 
It's considered British because it's designed & build here
but Ford 
is American.

What about Jaguar and Aston Martin, Land Rover (including The Range 
Rover), Lotus…. The list goes on, all originally British & still
made 
here but are these all American cars now?

What about Amoco, it's owned by BP now. Are you buying British
fuel 
every time you fill up there?

What are your thoughts?

Also, the only DeLorean I've seen on the road was a couple of
years 
ago near Banchory. Is the owner on this list?

Regards,
Paul Kelman
http://www.angelfire.com/ak/timetosurf/diablo.html





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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 12:32:18 -0000
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Re: Tuning, tuning and more tuning.

Really? That's very interesting. You're saying if you're too far off, 
it won't pulse at all?

What do you mean "maximize the dwell angle"? Shoot for the highest 
reading I can get?

Also, for anyone reading:

I am using an analog dwell meter with a 6 cyl scale, and a 8 cyl 
scale. The meter says to double readings on the 8 cyl scale if 
reading a 4 cyl engine.

-Supposedly-, someone from this list says NOT to use the 6-cyl scale.
Am I supposed to use the 8 cyl scale and read it as-is, or double the 
reading? Or what?

Thanks,

Rich
#5335 


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Dave Sontos" <dsontos_at_dml_s...> wrote:
> You may want to try adjusting your CO now. Try to maximise the 
dwell angel
> and see if the dwell then begins to pulse. My car has a very narrow 
range of
> adjustment on the CO for the dwell before it will pulse.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_d...>
> To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 12:03 PM
> Subject: [DML] Tuning, tuning and more tuning.
> 
> 
> > Since I had plugged the idle tube vacuum leak and couldn't find 
any
> > other vacuum leaks, I have wanted to plug my O2 sensor back in, 
and
> > let the Lambda computer try to regulate the frequency valve again.
> >
> > I have a new O2 sensor. I can't find any vac leaks (which doesn't
> > mean there aren't any).
> >
> > I hooked up the dwell meter and watched. Since it is so much 
cooler
> > here in Maryland now, the warm up took longer. Finally the O2 
sensor
> > began sending voltage.
> >
> > The dwell meter exhibited a much more consistent behavior this 
time
> > but I'm not sure it's right yet. I also read that if it wasn't
> > behaving right, to run a new ground from the block to the ECU
> > bracket. I did this but it didn't help.
> >
> > The idle was a tad rougher, only noticable by ear. The tach never
> > wavered.
> >
> > The manual says the dwell meter should fluctuate between 35-45
> > degrees. Mine goes to 30, climbs to 45 and just -drops- back to 
30.
> > The range is close, but isn't it supposed to be a steady rocking 
back
> > and forth vs. a climb/drop sort of motion?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rich
> > #5335
> >
> >
> >
> > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please 
address:
> > moderators_at_dml_d...
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> >




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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 15:13:56 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: British or American?

Hi Paul

Time you joined the DeLorean Onwers Club UK! www.deloreans.co.uk

Martin
DeLorean Motors UK
www.delorean.co.uk

jpaulkelman wrote:

>Also, the only DeLorean I've seen on the road was a couple of
>years 
>ago near Banchory. Is the owner on this list?
>
>Regards,
>Paul Kelman
>http://www.angelfire.com/ak/timetosurf/diablo.html
>  
>






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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 14:56:49 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: British or American?

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "jpaulkelman" <Paul.KELMAN_at_dml_t...> 
wrote:
> Then I thought, is a DeLorean British or American?  The company was 
> funded by the British tax payer & built here but the DeLorean Motor 
> Company was American wasn't it?
<SNIP>

Niether, it's an Irish car! :)

Seriously though, it depends upon how look look at it. Using the same 
logic that Detroit uses, it's *technicly* an American car, as the 
parent company who's badge was used is based in the US. However, 
build wise in both engineering, and design, it really shows to be a 
British car. So it's really only based upon your perspective in the 
end, and what's more convenient/holds more pride for you at the 
moment. As you can tell, I myself refer to it as beeing Irish.

Many other cars are based in one country, and built abroad. Such as 
the Dodge trucks in Mexico, GM F-Bodys in Canada, etc... But the 
closest example to the DeLorean's heritage delima is now Jaguar. Ford 
has simply been badge engineering their American cars over to the UK 
by installing new front clips, fenders, quarter panels, luxury 
options, and wood trim interior components, and then modifying to 
suit. The XJ is actually built on a Ford Taurus chassis & drive 
train, while the X-Type is built upon the Ford Escort. So just like 
the DeLorean DMC-12, are the new Jaguar XJ, & X-Type models American, 
or British? Using the Detroit method, they're British. But 
engineering wise, no.

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"




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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 14:59:13 -0000
From: "John Dore" <dmcjohn_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: British or American?

Hi Paul,
Here in Ireland, I drive an American Ford Escort (as you said, ford 
is american), and an American DeLorean.
Depending on your point of view the DeLorean can be considered 
American, Irish, or English. Partially paid for by the British (but 
also by money invested by dealers in the USA and investors in the USA 
and elsewhere). Built in Ireland, by Irish workforce. Also, the 
bodypanels were created here in Ireland, in Co. Meath. But, this is 
the one I go by, the company was/is American, with an address in NYC. 

I don't agree that the country of manufacture should determine the 
nationallity of a car, although I admit it would be really cool (for 
me anyway) to consider the car Irish, and I have driven it in the 
Boston, MA 2002 St. Patricks day parade with tri-colour flags all 
over it! Great day out. But at the end of the day I consider it to be 
American, with connections to Ireland, England (suspension + 
underbody engineering by lotus), France (engines etc.), Germany 
(Stainless), Italy (styling), etc. etc. the list goes on...

Is the VW Bug built until recently a Mexican car? Or South-African? 
I'd always consider it German no matter where it was built.

Is Scotland in Britian?

Thanks,
John Dore, Ireland. VIN 3810.

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "jpaulkelman" <Paul.KELMAN_at_dml_t...> 
wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> This is my first posting but I've followed the list for years.
> 
> I was at a car show last weekend in my home city Aberdeen, Scotland 
> and there were a few American cars namely a Corvette, Trans Am's,
> AMC Pacer and a few others. There was an empty space amongst these 
> which was supposed to be filled by a Knight Rider replica car & I 
> thought it would have been nice to see a Delorean in there.
> 
> Then I thought, is a DeLorean British or American?  The company was 
> funded by the British tax payer & built here but the DeLorean Motor 
> Company was American wasn't it?
> 
> This is quite confusing. If I bought a Ford Fiesta. Is it British 
> It's considered British because it's designed & build here
> but Ford 
> is American.
> 
> What about Jaguar and Aston Martin, Land Rover (including The Range 
> Rover), Lotus…. The list goes on, all originally British & still
> made 
> here but are these all American cars now?
> 
> What about Amoco, it's owned by BP now. Are you buying British
> fuel 
> every time you fill up there?
> 
> What are your thoughts?
> 
> Also, the only DeLorean I've seen on the road was a couple of
> years 
> ago near Banchory. Is the owner on this list?
> 
> Regards,
> Paul Kelman
> http://www.angelfire.com/ak/timetosurf/diablo.html




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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:59:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Louie Golden <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Re: British or American?

The DeLorean is a dang mutt that defies labels... haha! As you know John DeLorean is American, but the car finally ended up being built in N. Ireland. Much of the cars development work was done by Lotus in England. The car uses a varient of Lotus' famed backbone chassis, and employs Lotus' VARI process for the cars underbodies. The car uses the PRV-6 engine and a Renault transaxle... both of these are French. I believe the stainless came from Germany... the list goes on. DeLorean Motor Company had offices in America (New York), and in N. Ireland. The company had totally Irish assembly line workers, and many of the high ranking people in the company were English and Irish as well. Many more were also American. So it's really hard to pin down just what to call the DeLorean car, and the company. The company started out in the US, but ended up building their cars in N. Ireland. They could have ended up building in Puerto Rico or even Detroit had luck been on their side. So the easiest way for me to classify the DeLorean is to say it was built in N. Ireland... I avoid labelling the company itself.

Louie Golden
VIN- Coming Again Soon

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 15:07:21 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Tuning, tuning and more tuning.

Setting the knob on the different scales only changes the range. On
whatever scale you set the meter it should pulse up and down when the
Lambda is in closed loop. Try to adjust the mixture screw for the
widest range. Too wide and it will stop pulsing so back off a little
from the widest setting. This is only close to where you should be. To
adjust it corrctly you really do need an exhaust gas analyzer but with
this method at least you will be close. The mixture screw is VERY
sensitive so make small adjustments and you MUST plug the hole above
it and wait till the motor settles down before reading the meter.
Before attempting this adjustment EVERYTHING MUST be working as good
as you can make it. That is clean, regapped spark plugs, no vacuum
leaks, timming set, clean air filter, good O2 sensor, no exhaust
leaks, clean fuel injectors, working idle motor system, etc. The meter
should have no effect on the motor, it should only give you a reading.
If connecting and disconnecting the meter or using different scales
affects the motor then you will have to use a different meter. This is
supposed to be the LAST thing you do on the motor after everything
else is set up and working correctly. Anything you do after this can
affect this setting. When finished be sure to plug the hole above the
mixture screw properly. 
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> Really? That's very interesting. You're saying if you're too far off, 
> it won't pulse at all?
> 
> What do you mean "maximize the dwell angle"? Shoot for the highest 
> reading I can get?
> 
> Also, for anyone reading:
> 
> I am using an analog dwell meter with a 6 cyl scale, and a 8 cyl 





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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:15:34 -0700
From: "Jason Rowe" <rowejj_at_dml_tds.net>
Subject: Strange carb/intake Delorean on ebay

      I emailed the seller about the yellow Delorean on ebay that has 
the homemade looking carb intake setup. I asked him if he did it or
it was like that when he got the car. The response I got back was 
"I have done nothing to the car it is the way I bought it. I'm not
the orginal owner"    Anyone bidding on this one?  Doesn't look 
like too bad a deal if the engine doesn't scare you. Let us know 
more about it if someone on the list does happen to win it. 

                                   Jason #5903

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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 09:57:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Marty Lick <mlick27_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Upcoming DeLorean sighting - Mythbusters

Last night, I saw an ad for the new show "Mythbusters"
on Discovery and noticed a DeLorean in the background
of one of their shots.

>From the two seconds it was on screen, I couldn't tell
what they would be trying to prove/disprove.  It looks
like they're running the show a few times a week so
once someone catches it and posts here, there will be
time for the rest of us to catch it.

-- Marty


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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 12:48:49 -0500
From: id <ionicdesign_at_dml_execpc.com>
Subject: Re: British or American?

>From what i understand where ever the Mother company is located determines what kind of
car it is unless it was built for only one type of market. Example some Toyota's are
made in U.S.A. but the Mother company is in Japan so the cars are Japanese because they
are marketed and made in the U.S and the DeLorean was manufactured in Ireland but the
Mother company was in the U.S. so it is a U.S. car assembled in Ireland since the car
was not solely designed for the European market.

It doesnt matter who gave the cash to build the car it matters where the Mother company
is.

The Fiesta is a British car because it was built for and only for the British market not
like the U.S. version of the Fiesta (that turned in to the Aspire) that was solely
designed for the U.S. market.

The Jaguar and Aston Martin, Land Rover (including The Range Rover), Lotus are still
European cars not American unless they are only built for the American market.

So to make a long story short if the cars were built for a European market they are
European cars and if they are built for an American market they are American cars even
though the Mother company is in the U.S.A. or other regions of the world.

Mark
6683


jpaulkelman wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> This is my first posting but I've followed the list for years.
>
> I was at a car show last weekend in my home city Aberdeen, Scotland
> and there were a few American cars namely a Corvette, Trans Am's,
> AMC Pacer and a few others. There was an empty space amongst these
> which was supposed to be filled by a Knight Rider replica car & I
> thought it would have been nice to see a Delorean in there.
>
> Then I thought, is a DeLorean British or American?  The company was
> funded by the British tax payer & built here but the DeLorean Motor
> Company was American wasn't it?
>
> This is quite confusing. If I bought a Ford Fiesta. Is it British
> It's considered British because it's designed & build here
> but Ford
> is American.
>
> What about Jaguar and Aston Martin, Land Rover (including The Range
> Rover), Lotus…. The list goes on, all originally British & still
> made
> here but are these all American cars now?
>
> What about Amoco, it's owned by BP now. Are you buying British
> fuel
> every time you fill up there?
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
> Also, the only DeLorean I've seen on the road was a couple of
> years
> ago near Banchory. Is the owner on this list?
>
> Regards,
> Paul Kelman
> http://www.angelfire.com/ak/timetosurf/diablo.html
>
> To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address:
> moderators_at_dml_dmcnews.com
>
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>
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:13:23 -0700
From: "Spinler-Waid, Iris" <iris.spinler-waid_at_dml_honeywell.com>
Subject: recharge A/C

Hi all,

I'm a brand new Delorean owner (2 days) and I have to recharge the A/C to
add the environmentally friendly stuff in it.

I'm in CA and I don't really want to go to Delorean one.  Does anyone know
of a place that will do that so I can get the car registered here?

Thanks much,
iris
VIN#:  ???? (I haven't memorized it yet)



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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 14:21:02 -0400
From: <eric_at_dml_seviernet.com>
Subject: Re: British or American?

Here's a thought- If I understood the way the whole operation was set up
from the start, the cars were actually built by a company named Delorean
Motor Cars Ltd, right? That company was everything that was based in
Northern Ireland. Then the cars were sold to it's sole distributor, DeLorean
Motor Company (based in NYC), for sale to the dealers and public. If that is
right, then wouldn't the cars really be Irish/British (Northern Irish?), as
the company that assembled them was also Irish/British.

Personally I enjoy tagging mine Irish, as it kind've adds to the humor of
the car.

Eric Itzel
vin 4433

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Louie Golden" <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [DML] British or American?


> The DeLorean is a dang mutt that defies labels... haha! As you know John
DeLorean is American, but the car finally ended up being built in N.
Ireland. Much of the cars development work was done by Lotus in England. The
car uses a varient of Lotus' famed backbone chassis, and employs Lotus' VARI
process for the cars underbodies. The car uses the PRV-6 engine and a
Renault transaxle... both of these are French. I believe the stainless came
from Germany... the list goes on. DeLorean Motor Company had offices in
America (New York), and in N. Ireland. The company had totally Irish
assembly line workers, and many of the high ranking people in the company
were English and Irish as well. Many more were also American. So it's really
hard to pin down just what to call the DeLorean car, and the company. The
company started out in the US, but ended up building their cars in N.
Ireland. They could have ended up building in Puerto Rico or even Detroit
had luck been on their side. So the easiest way for me to classify the
DeLorean is to say it was built in N. Ireland... I avoid labelling the
company itself.
>
> Louie Golden
> VIN- Coming Again Soon
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 14:22:49 -0500
From: "Gregory K. Deeter" <office_at_dml_philatelic.com>
Subject: Delorean 800 # card

Has anyone ever seen one of these toll free number cards before?

Or for that matter, a dealer directory?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6032&item=2436284423


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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 14:40:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Justin <voodoonova_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Upcoming DeLorean sighting - Mythbusters

I saw that as well. After seeing it over and over, it looked more like the back end of a '80s silver corvette. I am still unsure. 

Marty Lick <mlick27_at_dml_yahoo.com> wrote:Last night, I saw an ad for the new show "Mythbusters"
on Discovery and noticed a DeLorean in the background
of one of their shots.

>From the two seconds it was on screen, I couldn't tell
what they would be trying to prove/disprove. It looks
like they're running the show a few times a week so
once someone catches it and posts here, there will be
time for the rest of us to catch it.

-- Marty


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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 21:42:13 -0000
From: "armac.rm" <armac_at_dml_rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: Delorean 800 # card

The 800 card I might have not to sure, have to look but I am sure I 
have Dealer Directory for delorean dealers around the United States.





--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Gregory K. Deeter" <office_at_dml_p...> 
wrote:
> Has anyone ever seen one of these toll free number cards before?
> 
> Or for that matter, a dealer directory?
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&category=6032&item=2436284423
> 
> 
> Greg




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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:40:39 -0400
From: "Rustproof" <Rustproof_at_dml_comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Re: British or American?

( moderators note: this subject has the potential to have as many oppinions as subscribers. I'm killing the subject as enough has been said already. )

Hey, I rebuilt my D from the ground up with the frame off...As far as I'm
concerned, this baby was built in MASSACHUSETTS!
Rustproof
Vin #1559
----- Original Message -----
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 10:56 AM
Subject: [DML] Re: British or American?


> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "jpaulkelman" <Paul.KELMAN_at_dml_t...>
> wrote:
> > Then I thought, is a DeLorean British or American?  The company was
> > funded by the British tax payer & built here but the DeLorean Motor
> > Company was American wasn't it?
> <SNIP>
>
> Niether, it's an Irish car! :)
>
> Seriously though, it depends upon how look look at it. Using the same
> logic that Detroit uses, it's *technicly* an American car, as the
> parent company who's badge was used is based in the US. However,
> build wise in both engineering, and design, it really shows to be a
> British car. So it's really only based upon your perspective in the
> end, and what's more convenient/holds more pride for you at the
> moment. As you can tell, I myself refer to it as beeing Irish.
>
> Many other cars are based in one country, and built abroad. Such as
> the Dodge trucks in Mexico, GM F-Bodys in Canada, etc... But the
> closest example to the DeLorean's heritage delima is now Jaguar. Ford
> has simply been badge engineering their American cars over to the UK
> by installing new front clips, fenders, quarter panels, luxury
> options, and wood trim interior components, and then modifying to
> suit. The XJ is actually built on a Ford Taurus chassis & drive
> train, while the X-Type is built upon the Ford Escort. So just like
> the DeLorean DMC-12, are the new Jaguar XJ, & X-Type models American,
> or British? Using the Detroit method, they're British. But
> engineering wise, no.
>
> -Robert
> vin 6585 "X"
>
>
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 22:14:31 -0000
From: "Toby Peterson" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>
Subject: 365 Days of Duct Tape

A buddy of mine has a desk calendar that lists a new use for duct tape 
for every day of the year.  For October 8th, the item is as follows:  
"** A New Look for Your Car ** Give your old Dodge a classy new lease 
on life.  Cover it entirely in silver duct tape: It's a DeLorean on a 
roll!"  You just gotta love it!

Toby Peterson  VIN 2248
Winged1 - With NO duct tape.




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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 22:25:39 -0000
From: "aaron_t_graham" <aaron_t_graham_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: LED's for A/C panels lights

I agree with John.  I spent more than $100 to replace all the little 
bulbs in my dash with the LEDs.  In my opinion, it looked terrible.  
So I reverted back to using the original bulbs again.

I did install the Indiglo dash kit from Ryan Gould at DART, and it 
looks *really* good.  I tried taking pictures of it, but they don't 
do it any justice -- I can't seem to adjust the exposure time just 
right so that it looks the same in the picture as it does in real 
life.  It doesn't look rediculous like a Fast&Furious car, and it 
doesn't stick out like a sore thumb.  It looks natural, as if the 
DeLorean should have had the Indiglo dash from the beginning.

However, if you still want to put LEDs behind the A/C panel, you 
could probably just buy individual bare LEDs (with the terminals 
sticking out) from an electronics supply store and wire them into the 
sockets in place of the incandescent bulbs.  Doesn't sound like it 
should be too hard.

Aaron
#1506





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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 23:59:25 -0000
From: "Tomcio" <tomcio_at_dml_gtemail.net>
Subject: Re: Victimized Monster Garage Delo

Hello everyone!
I'm saying hello after being off the list for over a year!

Well, to the point:

I just saw the part about the monster garage and I thought... How 
about sending some REAL hate mail to the discovery channel and the 
makers of the program itself? I even thought about a lawsuit. I mean, 
I don't mind when they destroy some piece of sh** that is going to a 
junkyard anyway, but destroying a classic car is too much. It doesn't 
matter if it's a DeLorean or any other classic car. What makes me 
furious is that I love DeLoreans. 
I'm thinking... maybe a lawsuit should be in order? If anyone want to 
do it I will sign up for sure.

Take care everyone
Tom Niemczewski
vin 6149 (5-speed, yeah!)


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <webmaster_at_dml_8...> wrote:
> A lot of us are aware of Rich's hover-d.. but who else wants to see 
a
> drag race between the two?
> 





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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:13:44 EDT
From: abatt10347_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Upcoming DeLorean sighting - Mythbusters

On the E channel this weekend there was a show on Jenna Jameason (sp), it had 
a 2 sec shot of a Delorean in the background with the doors up. It was 
talking about the wild party scene in LA. Not enough to say it was a sighting but 
only an owner would have caught it.
Bruce Battles
Vin #06569
MTARNDO


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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:19:14 -0700
From: "Jason Rowe" <rowejj_at_dml_tds.net>
Subject: Intake/carb setup on Ebay Delorean again

        All, the seller emailed me a close up pic of the setup if anyone is
interested in seeing it. Email me off list and I'll send it to you. 

                       Jason #5903

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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:20:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: benjamin strand <benjamin_strand_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: recharge A/C

I could be wrong, but I don't think you need environmentally safe A/C to get your car registered.  I bought mine back in June (thankfully before Gray Davis tripled car registration) and don't remember the A/C type being a problem.  
 
However, I did have my A/C recharged.  I took mine to Delorean Motor Center in Garden Grove.  Friendly service.  I was in and out within an hour.  I live in the San Fernando Valley, but it was worth the drive. 
 
Ben
VIN 4613

"Spinler-Waid, Iris" <iris.spinler-waid_at_dml_honeywell.com> wrote:
Hi all,

I'm a brand new Delorean owner (2 days) and I have to recharge the A/C to
add the environmentally friendly stuff in it.

I'm in CA and I don't really want to go to Delorean one. Does anyone know
of a place that will do that so I can get the car registered here?

Thanks much,
iris
VIN#: ???? (I haven't memorized it yet)


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