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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1708
Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 6:14 AM

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There are 15 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: The Golden DeLorean
From: "khyron_21502" <khyron_21502_at_dml_yahoo.com>

2. Re: The Golden DeLorean
From: "skokie_at_dml_sbcglobal.net" <skokie_at_dml_sbcglobal.net>

3. Idle Switch etc.
From: doctorDHD_at_dml_aol.com

4. Re: Re: The Golden DeLorean
From: Twilightcall_at_dml_aol.com

5. RE: The Golden DeLorean
From: "Chris Boden" <cboden_at_dml_thegeekgroup.org>

6. Re: Re: The Golden DeLorean
From: "Ian Foster" <ian_at_dml_netvigator.com>

7. Re: highest mileage?
From: Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>

8. Re: Delorean Hovercraft project coming up on Monster Garage
From: "d_rex_2002" <rich_at_dml_outernet-tech.net>

9. Re: The Golden DeLorean
From: "Brian McCool" <bjmccool_at_dml_comcast.net>

10. RE: The Golden DeLorean
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf_at_dml_charter.net>

11. Re: Re: The Golden DeLorean
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

12. Re: Re: The Golden DeLorean
From: william taylor <williamctaylor2000_at_dml_yahoo.com>

13. New Member
From: "cyboexpo2002" <paul.mari_at_dml_huskymail.uconn.edu>

14. Struts...which way are they "supposed" to go?
From: "supermattthehero" <supermatty_at_dml_psu.edu>

15. Replacing the Fuel Accumulator
From: deloreanss_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 07:03:31 -0000
From: "khyron_21502" <khyron_21502_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The Golden DeLorean

  The owner of the gold Delorean in Maryland lives near La Vale.I 
live in Cumberland but haven't seen it.I did find this web site that 
says it for sale,1983 24 Karat Gold-plated DeLorean with 636 orginal 
miles VIN# 20105.

Scott 
3180


I forgot to put in the web address in my last post its.
http://bigtexas.com/dmc/gold/


Scott
3180





--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> Guys,
> 
> I read that there is/was a gold DeLorean in a museum in Maryland.
> 
> Is it still there or was it sold? I read so much lore that I can't 
> keep it all straight. Where in Maryland is it?
> 
> Since I live in Maryland, I don't see how I could be a true 
DeLorean 
> owner without making such a short pilgrimage to see this car if it 
is 
> accessible in a museum.
> 
> I always did like that saddle brown interior...
> 
> 
> Rich
> #5335




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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:28:26 -0700
From: "skokie_at_dml_sbcglobal.net" <skokie_at_dml_sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: The Golden DeLorean

Isn't there supposed to be one in Reno Nevada as well?



At 05:44 PM 10/12/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>The "last" delorean was gold.  This car was in
>Cleveland a few years back, right next to the first
>car.  The owner lives in MD, so maybe he has it on
>display in a local museum?
>
>--- cruznmd <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com> wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> > I read that there is/was a gold DeLorean in a museum
> > in Maryland.
> >
> > Is it still there or was it sold? I read so much
> > lore that I can't
> > keep it all straight. Where in Maryland is it?
> >
> > Since I live in Maryland, I don't see how I could be
> > a true DeLorean
> > owner without making such a short pilgrimage to see
> > this car if it is
> > accessible in a museum.
> >
> > I always did like that saddle brown interior...
> >
> >
> > Rich
> > #5335
> >
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:16:50 EDT
From: doctorDHD_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Idle Switch etc.

Andy,

With the ignition on and the engine not running the voltage at the idle 
microswitch, with the switch open, (ie not at idle) should be very close to the 
battery voltage. When you make this measurement you are actually measuring the 
voltage that "is being passed" through the vacuum solenoid and the Idle ECU via 
the diode. Also measure the voltage at the number 1 fuse, with the fuse in 
place. It should be close to the battery voltage as I mentioned.  If it is not, 
disconnect one end of the diode, (to eliminate that factor) and measure again.  
If it is now close to the battery voltage, I'd say the diode may be bad 
because it should actually isolate anything the ECU is doing to the measurement.  
If it is still low, then disconnect the capacitor.  If it now goes up to the 
battery voltage then the problem was in the capacitor or its wiring.  Now with 
the diode and capacitor disconnected, if you still have low voltage there then 
I would say that the problem is in the vacuum solenoid or its wiring.  I just 
measured the resistance of my vacuum solenoid and it was about 24 ohms.  Also 
there was no continuity between the connections on the solenoid and the case 
of the solenoid.  Check these things and let us know.

Hope to see you all at the Fall Tour.

Dave & 6530


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:30:10 EDT
From: Twilightcall_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: The Golden DeLorean

Are there any Golden Deloreans that were done aftereward not by the factory.  
(conversions that people have done themselves?) 



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:19:46 -0400
From: "Chris Boden" <cboden_at_dml_thegeekgroup.org>
Subject: RE: The Golden DeLorean

There are 4 total.

2 Made for the credit card promotion.

1 Made as the last one that came off the line.

And one that's been done later (it wasn't made Gold from the factory).

-----Original Message-----
From: skokie_at_dml_sbcglobal.net [mailto:skokie_at_dml_sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 11:28 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] The Golden DeLorean

Isn't there supposed to be one in Reno Nevada as well?



At 05:44 PM 10/12/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>The "last" delorean was gold.  This car was in
>Cleveland a few years back, right next to the first
>car.  The owner lives in MD, so maybe he has it on
>display in a local museum?
>
>--- cruznmd <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com> wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> > I read that there is/was a gold DeLorean in a museum
> > in Maryland.
> >
> > Is it still there or was it sold? I read so much
> > lore that I can't
> > keep it all straight. Where in Maryland is it?
> >
> > Since I live in Maryland, I don't see how I could be
> > a true DeLorean
> > owner without making such a short pilgrimage to see
> > this car if it is
> > accessible in a museum.
> >
> > I always did like that saddle brown interior...
> >
> >
> > Rich
> > #5335
> >
>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 00:09:36 +0800
From: "Ian Foster" <ian_at_dml_netvigator.com>
Subject: Re: Re: The Golden DeLorean

Interesting talking about Golden DeLoreans ... I was in Macau today at the
SunStar model manufacturers offices (they are making a model for me for the
50th Macau Grand Prix).

They had all the preproduction models there showing the various stainless
steel and gold colours they had tried. I think we got the best on final
production!

Cheers,          IAN
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "khyron_21502" <khyron_21502_at_dml_yahoo.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 3:03 PM
Subject: [DML] Re: The Golden DeLorean


>   The owner of the gold Delorean in Maryland lives near La Vale.I
> live in Cumberland but haven't seen it.I did find this web site that
> says it for sale,1983 24 Karat Gold-plated DeLorean with 636 orginal
> miles VIN# 20105.
>
> Scott
> 3180
>
>
> I forgot to put in the web address in my last post its.
> http://bigtexas.com/dmc/gold/
>
>
> Scott
> 3180
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> > I read that there is/was a gold DeLorean in a museum in Maryland.
> >
> > Is it still there or was it sold? I read so much lore that I can't
> > keep it all straight. Where in Maryland is it?
> >
> > Since I live in Maryland, I don't see how I could be a true
> DeLorean
> > owner without making such a short pilgrimage to see this car if it
> is
> > accessible in a museum.
> >
> > I always did like that saddle brown interior...
> >
> >
> > Rich
> > #5335
>
>
>
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>
>





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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:21:13 -0500
From: Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>
Subject: Re: highest mileage?

For those of you who remember.  Bill Miller brought his all original 
250, 000 mile Delorean to Cleveland.  Bill has now put another 25,000 
miles on the car.


He has used mobil 1 oil.  





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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:37:50 -0000
From: "d_rex_2002" <rich_at_dml_outernet-tech.net>
Subject: Re: Delorean Hovercraft project coming up on Monster Garage

Yes, the day is finally here, whether you like it or not.
I hope Delorean enthusiasts will focus on the good, not the bad.

The Delorean Hovercraft episode will debut tonight, Monday Oct. 13
on Discovery Channel at 8pm Central time, repeated at 11pm.

Additional repeats of the Delorean Hovercraft episode will be aired
on Saturday, Oct. 18 at 8pm Central time, repeated at 11pm.

Also, if you miss those times and dates, there is a Monster Garage
marathon being planned, including the repeat of this wild episode.
The Delorean Hovercraft episode will be aired near the middle of the
marathon the day after Thanksgiving, on Nov. 28 at 4pm Central time.

Later,
Rich W.

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "dandan67" <dandan67_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> I was on the MG set Monday morning, catching up with the producers 
> (and doing a small bit for the current build) when the hovercraft 
> project caught my eye out back.
> 
> Ho boy.
> 
> Dan Danknick




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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 12:58:38 -0500
From: "Brian McCool" <bjmccool_at_dml_comcast.net>
Subject: Re: The Golden DeLorean

There's one in Reno, Nevada and the other is in Snyder, Texas. These are the
2 that were ordered through the American Express promotion. As far as I
know, the owner that lives in Maryland has the gold plated "last" Delorean
that was made.

Coincidentally, I emailed Ken Koncelik about this last week. I believe he's
following up on trying to get the one in Maryland to Pigeon Forge (tentative
on the owners health, as I understand). I have a newspaper article talking
about a new car museum in Tupelo, Mississippi by Frank Spain, in which it is
mentioned that there may be a gold Delorean on display there.
As far as I know, there are only 3 gold D's in existence, the one in Snyder
hasn't left there in 20 years, so I'm not sure if the guy in Tupelo has his
on loan from the Reno Museum, or from the guy in Maryland, assuming there's
one still on display there at all. The article is from January of this year.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <skokie_at_dml_sbcglobal.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] The Golden DeLorean


> Isn't there supposed to be one in Reno Nevada as well?
>
>
>
> At 05:44 PM 10/12/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >The "last" delorean was gold.  This car was in
> >Cleveland a few years back, right next to the first
> >car.  The owner lives in MD, so maybe he has it on
> >display in a local museum?
> >
> >--- cruznmd <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com> wrote:
> > > Guys,
> > >
> > > I read that there is/was a gold DeLorean in a museum
> > > in Maryland.
> > >
> > > Is it still there or was it sold? I read so much
> > > lore that I can't
> > > keep it all straight. Where in Maryland is it?
> > >
> > > Since I live in Maryland, I don't see how I could be
> > > a true DeLorean
> > > owner without making such a short pilgrimage to see
> > > this car if it is
> > > accessible in a museum.
> > >
> > > I always did like that saddle brown interior...
> > >
> > >
> > > Rich
> > > #5335
> > >
> >
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 12:26:56 -0700
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf_at_dml_charter.net>
Subject: RE: The Golden DeLorean

Does anyone have the true story of that supposedly fourth Gold DeLorean?
We all know of the two promo models and then the story is that the last one
off the line, utilized the panels that had been made up if needed, for those
first two, to cover a third one that was raffled off.   I would question
whether anyone went to the expense of having special huge tanks made to dunk
those panels for gold plating just for one car.  Cost would be pretty
prohibitive!  But again maybe those original tanks were still available
somewhere, as the original idea was to make 100 gold DeLoreans!!  Anyone
know the real true story...not just what "I THINK I read somewhere" etc?

Murray
Vin: 05962
Lic:  DMC-XII





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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:32:47 EDT
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: The Golden DeLorean

In a message dated 10/13/2003 7:49:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
khyron_21502_at_dml_yahoo.com writes:
  The owner of the gold Delorean in Maryland lives near La Vale.I 
live in Cumberland but haven't seen it.I did find this web site that 
says it for sale,1983 24 Karat Gold-plated DeLorean with 636 orginal 
miles VIN# 20105.
If Carl's health holds out you will see this car at the DeLorean Car Show in 
Pigeon Forge 
It was at the show in Cleveland in 2000

www.deloreancarshow.com

Ken
DeLorean Car Show 


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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:05:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: william taylor <williamctaylor2000_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: The Golden DeLorean

try this link. www.bigtexas.com/dmc 

 

 

 

Ian Foster <ian_at_dml_netvigator.com> wrote:
Interesting talking about Golden DeLoreans ... I was in Macau today at the
SunStar model manufacturers offices (they are making a model for me for the
50th Macau Grand Prix).

They had all the preproduction models there showing the various stainless
steel and gold colours they had tried. I think we got the best on final
production!

Cheers, IAN
*****************

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "khyron_21502" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 3:03 PM
Subject: [DML] Re: The Golden DeLorean


> The owner of the gold Delorean in Maryland lives near La Vale.I
> live in Cumberland but haven't seen it.I did find this web site that
> says it for sale,1983 24 Karat Gold-plated DeLorean with 636 orginal
> miles VIN# 20105.
>
> Scott
> 3180
>
>
> I forgot to put in the web address in my last post its.
> http://bigtexas.com/dmc/gold/
>
>
> Scott
> 3180
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "cruznmd" wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> > I read that there is/was a gold DeLorean in a museum in Maryland.
> >
> > Is it still there or was it sold? I read so much lore that I can't
> > keep it all straight. Where in Maryland is it?
> >
> > Since I live in Maryland, I don't see how I could be a true
> DeLorean
> > owner without making such a short pilgrimage to see this car if it
> is
> > accessible in a museum.
> >
> > I always did like that saddle brown interior...
> >
> >
> > Rich
> > #5335
>
>
>
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:07:30 -0000
From: "cyboexpo2002" <paul.mari_at_dml_huskymail.uconn.edu>
Subject: New Member

Hi all.  Joined the DMCNEWS group today.  I have to say that I've
loved the Delorean as long as I can remember...  I'm 19, and always
loved it every time I saw one on the road or at a show.  It just so
happens that I'm looking for a new car, and I realised: I better look
at the DMC.  They appear to be out of my price range at the
moment...but you never know.  I could spend around $10k on it, so I
could get one that needs mild to moderate work.  

About me:  I'm a 19 yr old college student at the University of
Connecticut (UConn), and my hometown is Shelton, CT (about 30-45 min
from NY state).

Right now I can't have a car until junior (next) yr _at_dml_ UConn (rules). 
I've seen a few DMC's for sale in NY, but most are around $15-20k for
a considerable amount of work ($10k).  I'm thinking that they might be
a little pricy, considering DMC in Houston will sell a refurb/restored
one for $35k...

If all else fails, I'll be waiting a few more years...but I WILL get
one...




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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 00:31:40 -0000
From: "supermattthehero" <supermatty_at_dml_psu.edu>
Subject: Struts...which way are they "supposed" to go?

I have just recently noticed this minor detail.  My car has the door
struts installed with the thinner rod part attached to the actual
door, while many other cars I see have it attached to the door opening
area.  Which way is recommended?  

Matt
#1604





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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:16:08 EDT
From: deloreanss_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Replacing the Fuel Accumulator

I am about to go through the process of replacing my fuel accumulator, which 
has been the source or many hot non-starts. The thing I am worried about is 
that it seems too easy (deceptively so?). Is there any trick to this? I have 
searched the shop manual over to find out if it is pressurized or not. I assume 
it is. I am afraid I am going to get a face full of gasoline when I yank this 
thing. Any tips?

Thanks,
John Weaver
ETDOC 
RED DMC #10527


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