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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1717
Date: Sunday, October 19, 2003 7:14 AM

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There are 9 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: DeLorean's Steering rack & pinion
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>

2. Struts - compressed
From: Tom Watkins <dmctom_at_dml_earthlink.net>

3. Re: Struts - compressed
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>

4. Re: DMC's plans
From: grex37_at_dml_aol.com

5. I Need a Front Fascia!!
From: "deloreanryder" <deloreanryder_at_dml_yahoo.com>

6. Looking for Gray Door Straps with Rings.
From: "deloreanryder" <deloreanryder_at_dml_yahoo.com>

7. Re: DeLorean Values, etc.
From: Enid/Jeremiah <hispanicangeleyes_at_dml_yahoo.com>

8. Anyone have Special T's Door Launchers?
From: PRC1216_at_dml_aol.com

9. RE: Re: DMC's plans
From: "Jack Singer" <jsinger_at_dml_i-c.net>





Message: 1
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:47:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>
Subject: Re: DeLorean's Steering rack & pinion

>From what I know, it's difficult to rebuild the rack. As I went through 4
racks in a couple months, I can only recommend one course of action: Get
PJ Grady's rebuilt rack. These things are amazing. You won't even believe
that it's the same part. The racks are glass beaded and have all new
seals, bearings, boots, etc:

http://www.pjgrady.com/lgspec.asp?id=9

You'll be amazed.

-Christian

On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, TalksToGod wrote:

> Hello all, my rack & pinion has very excessive wear in it (i can turn
> the strngwheel a few inches!!!) -its still installed and is still
> holding out. I have known it needs attention for a while now, and now
> I cannot overlook it anymore. A few questions...is the rack & pinion
> able to be rebuilt-are there parts out there to rebuild it too? Does
> anyone have a good used rack they would like to sell? and finally, is
> it possible for the worn rack to fall apart on me in the car? If the
> rack & pinion is possible to be rebuilt or fixed, I am a mechanic so
> this will be no hard task at all. This car will be parked in another
> month or so for a clutch and the rest of the restoration-so if the
> steering will hold, I will let it go until the clutch unless its a
> danger. Thanks guys
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 08:51:27 -0400
From: Tom Watkins <dmctom_at_dml_earthlink.net>
Subject: Struts - compressed

  Let me clarify what I said.  (If I'm wrong please feel free to say so) 
 When your door is closed for long periods of time the gas strut is 
compressed instead of being in the fully extended position.     I have 
assumed from posts over the years that this shortens the life of a 
strut.  Is this a fact?   Some have said that leaving the doors up will 
help to keep strut life longer.......but with strut prices lowered it's 
a pretty moot point as well as not too practical keeping your doors up 
during storage!!

I assumed that the compressed state (doors closed) would make for a 
higher pressure in the strut....how else would it want to push the rod 
out back to an extented state if the pressure doesn't rise when 
compressed?  It seems to makes sense that the strut has a higher 
pressure when compressed so that when the door is opened it starts with 
a higher pressure on the piston and as it starts to extend (and the door 
rises) the pressure decreases as the strut reaches the end of it's 
travel.  Some have dampeners in them that slow it down at the end so the 
door will not go up fast at the end. This is probably helpful for those 
living in year round hot climates.  If the strut is compressed the gas 
must also compress which would raise it's pressure. IF.....that is how 
struts work and are designed.....I honestly don't know.     If the strut 
is compressed for months on end during storage would the strut seals 
possibly loose their effectivness faster?  Again, just an assumption and 
possibly a widely held belief.  If the recent thread of struts lying on 
their side means that seals are not lubricated all around is correct, 
would that be a more contributing factor to short strut life than open 
or closed?

Can anyone refute this or give us a better explaination of strut design 
and function?   I hate to continue a belief in something if in fact I am 
wrong.  Enlighten me.

Tom
#05732





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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 15:02:58 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>
Subject: Re: Struts - compressed

More than you ever wanted to know: start at

http://www.avminc.com/technical/1.1.html

and keep hitting "next" at the bottom of each page. Pay special 
attention to page 2.4 - look familiar?

Dave S


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Tom Watkins <dmctom_at_dml_e...> wrote:
>   Let me clarify what I said.  (If I'm wrong please feel free to 
say so) 
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> 
> Can anyone refute this or give us a better explaination of strut 
design 
> and function?   I hate to continue a belief in something if in fact 
I am 
> wrong.  Enlighten me.
> 
> Tom
> #05732




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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:31:30 EDT
From: grex37_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: DMC's plans

Hi everyone, I usually do not post on this on this list but I was wondering 
if anyone knew about DMC's plans if it had stayed in business. I think I recall 
hearing that they wanted to build a sedan, and later on give different color 
schemes and interior designs. Also, does anyone know about the "euro design" 
DeLorean that was supposed to come out in Europe before the company was closed? 
Are there any designs of these cars, even if they're rough ones? It would be 
really interesting to see what John and his company were working on and 
planning to do before they were shut down. Its really fascinating to think about 
what they would look like today if they had stayed in business. They were just so 
close... Ah, it irritates me every time I think about it. So long people,

John C.


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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:06:06 -0000
From: "deloreanryder" <deloreanryder_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: I Need a Front Fascia!!

I'm looking for a Front Fascia. Anyone have any leads? Thanks.




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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:56:12 -0000
From: "deloreanryder" <deloreanryder_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Looking for Gray Door Straps with Rings.

I'm looking for Gray Door Straps with the Rings if anyone has any. 
Thanks.




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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:00:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Enid/Jeremiah <hispanicangeleyes_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: DeLorean Values, etc.

You can find one for under $20k - just have money ready.  I already have $2000 (parts - NOT labor) ready so I can replace her worn out or almost-broken parts immediately.
 
And no, Scott, I'm not taking out the "blue light special".  Not at first at least ;).  You can't have the foglights either ;).

kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com wrote:

 He responded by 
saying that I really can't find a nice driver for under $20k anymore.


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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:20:44 EDT
From: PRC1216_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Anyone have Special T's Door Launchers?

I am seriously looking into getting a set of these.   It would be nice to be 
able to   lock and unlock my D with a "clicker" like most new cars.   Also, 
opening the doors by remote is about the coolest thing ever.   Does anyone have 
a set of these and are you happy with them?   How long did it take to install 
them?   Any problems/advice you want to tell someone who is looking at buying 
them?

Thanks!
Patrick
1880


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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:02:39 -0400
From: "Jack Singer" <jsinger_at_dml_i-c.net>
Subject: RE: Re: DMC's plans

I have a DMC factory book with drawings of the next generation DMC.  I will
scan them this weekend and post them.

Jack
Looking for a project car.

-----Original Message-----
From: grex37_at_dml_aol.com [mailto:grex37_at_dml_aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 12:32 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Re: DMC's plans


Hi everyone, I usually do not post on this on this list but I was wondering
if anyone knew about DMC's plans if it had stayed in business. I think I
recall
hearing that they wanted to build a sedan, and later on give different color
schemes and interior designs. Also, does anyone know about the "euro design"
DeLorean that was supposed to come out in Europe before the company was
closed?
Are there any designs of these cars, even if they're rough ones? It would be
really interesting to see what John and his company were working on and
planning to do before they were shut down. Its really fascinating to think
about
what they would look like today if they had stayed in business. They were
just so
close... Ah, it irritates me every time I think about it. So long people,

John C.


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