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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1743
Date: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:10 AM

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There are 7 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Cooling system related howto
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

2. Re: stainless DMC license plate
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

3. Re: stainless DMC license plate
From: "jeremys_im" <jeremysmail_at_dml_softhome.net>

4. New poll about the Rule of 20
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

5. Re: Cooling system related howto
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>

6. Re: Cooling system related howto
From: "Ed Garbade" <edgarbade_at_dml_hotmail.com>

7. Re: Disputing the $25,0000 rule
From: "D F" <funkstuf_at_dml_hotmail.com>





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:55:05 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Cooling system related howto

In a message dated 11/6/03 3:53:54 PM Central Standard Time, 
nuttenschleuder_at_dml_yahoo.com writes:

>   tomorrow morning is the last time im checking email
> before i do the job. looks like im flyin solo.
> 
> :( jordan 11613

I didn't see your original post but Bruce Benson already wrote up a good 
article in Gullwing Magazine relating to cooling system flushing.  

I would probably go somewhere i trust and have them use a commercial flush 
machine because it is a lot more reliable, you will be sure to get a good mix of 
50/50, and there is little mess to worry about.  hopefully you are friendly 
enough with a shop where they will let you on the floor and help them too.

Andy


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:48:03 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: stainless DMC license plate

In a message dated 11/6/03 4:13:37 PM Central Standard Time, 
billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com writes:

> Okay...my question of the day is the silver DMC plate that I see on ebay 
> from time to time. Just wondering how rare they are? How much are they really 
> worth?...they seem to go for like $40+ yet Houston sells them for like $12. Am 
> I missing something or are there older ones that are worth more...
> 
> Mike C


I think someone is just making money off other people's lack of knowledge.
The plate is nice to have for car shows - pop the stainless DMC in the rear 
bumper and you just upped your credibility... makes it look 'new'.

Andy


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 02:10:32 -0000
From: "jeremys_im" <jeremysmail_at_dml_softhome.net>
Subject: Re: stainless DMC license plate

"Most" of what I've seen (at least of eBay) are not made or stainless but a "stainless" 
look abd are wafer thin. From a short distance they look reasonably nice but hold one 
in your hand and it's very light and easy to crease / bend. I paid under $10 mfor mine 
off eBay. Nice for the house / workshop but I'd get something more higher quality / 
durable to put on the car.

Jeremy

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:19:04 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: New poll about the Rule of 20

List,

I created a poll on yahoogroups' DMCNEWS page.
It asks you to add up all of your receipts including your car's purchase 
price and all parts up to date, as well as a reasonable estimate for what it will 
take to get your car to the standards of the poll.  

the standard for the sake of a line in the sand is:
1. all updates/recalls done
2. 30K mile service done
3. car will pass emissions and get good gas milage     
4. exterior is a 9/10
5. interior is a 9/10
6. all gauges, lights, systems, moving parts work as they should and 
stainless and fascias are lined up properly.
7. car should be show-ready but not necessarily concours or perfect
8. should be up to a cross-country trip

please vote according to your total or for most people, a projected total of 
how much $$$ it will take to meet these standards (which might be more than 
some owners strive for, but i have to draw the line somewhere!!!)

Thanks! i will close the poll on the 25th of this month.

Andy


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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 02:35:13 -0000
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Re: Cooling system related howto

Jordan

Check out messages 35317 and 35316

Harold McElraft - 3354

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, jordan rubin <nuttenschleuder_at_dml_y...> 
wrote:
> Im going to guess that by the number of responses ive
> gotten from the last email (0). That....
> 
> 1. Nobody has any experience to share about flushing /
> filling the cooling system / changing hoses on the
> delorean.
> 
> 2. people do have experiences but arent will to share,
> for the good of the howto documentation project.
> 
> 3. nobody likes me :(
> 
> oh well,
> 
>    tomorrow morning is the last time im checking email
> before i do the job. looks like im flyin solo.
> 
> :( jordan 11613

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 21:40:37 -0500
From: "Ed Garbade" <edgarbade_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Cooling system related howto

This might help.

http://www.dmcnews.com/Techsection/cooling.htm

It shows you how to flush the system.  Hoses under car are relatively 
stright forward.  The confusing ones to me were the small ones for heater 
core.  Mine were OK so I left them alone.

Purchased a hose kit from DMC Houston.  Check the archives for info on hose 
sizes if you plan to buy locally.  I don't know what the sizes were used on 
car but did not need that info because I had the kit.

Another good site is http://www.dmcnews.com/.  Click on the technical info 
library link on right.  It has a lot of info.  Also get a copy of manuals 
from a vendor.  They really help.

Wish I was more knowledgeable and maybe one day I will be.

Hope this helps.

Ed Garbade
10541

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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 02:46:46 +0000
From: "D F" <funkstuf_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Disputing the $25,0000 rule

Guys,
I would dispute the $25,000 rule but perhaps not the $17,000 rule.
I purchased a Delorean (March 2003) in completely original condition, and I 
mean original as in no modifications and original tires etc. etc. .. Nothing 
had been changed.
It had 24,300 miles on it.  I paid a mechanic to do nearly everything.
I ended up with about $16,000 in this car and it runs like new.  I still 
have some minor cosemetics to due but the car looked mint to begin with 
except for the drivers seat cover and some paint touch up under the hood.  
I've made all modifications on this car and I wouldn't be afraid to drive it 
across country.
I intend to do the simple touch-ups which I expect will amount to another 
$1,000.00 to $1500.00 and I currently have about $16,000 into this car.  At 
that point, it will actually be a show car.  What's interesting is that I 
felt I paid about $1500.00 too much for this car because of the risk factors 
with buying a car that's not running.  These are very beautiful automobiles 
and as I watch this web site I notice that the trick to this car is to 
understand it.  I do not enjoy working on cars but I enjoy understanding 
them.  If you do that, you can direct your mechanic very economically.
Sincerely,
Dale Funk
Vin#4984--Da'Funk


>From: billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [DML] Disputing the $25,0000 rule
>Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 11:02:32 -0500
>
>Andy,
>What I think is also amazing is that you probably did most of the work 
>yourself....probably up to and over 1000 hours...if everything had to be 
>done by a shop the total would probably go to $40k+.
>
>Mike C



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