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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1757
Date: Monday, November 17, 2003 7:37 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Idle With Brass Manifold Screws
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

2. Re: Headlight Conversion / Automatic Transmissions?
From: Mark Valuch <dmcvin6683_at_dml_wi.rr.com>

3. Re: Protection Cap Armrest Extension?
From: "supermattthehero" <supermatty_at_dml_psu.edu>

4. RE: Protection Cap Armrest Extension?
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>

5. Re: Protection Cap Armrest Extension?
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

6. MD tech session.....thanks
From: billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com

7. BAE single turbo exhaust questions
From: "dmeester" <list_at_dml_meester.us>

8. Re: Protection Cap Armrest Extension?
From: "Michael Paine" <mpaine_at_dml_tycomsystems.com>

9. Idle yet again
From: doctorDHD_at_dml_aol.com

10. DeLorean Engine, Transmission, Clutch, Frame 4 sale
From: MichaelRPack1_at_dml_cs.com

11. Re: Protection Cap Armrest Extension?
From: "Bruce Benson" <delornut_at_dml_peoplepc.com>

12. 1983 DeLoreans
From: MichaelRPack1_at_dml_cs.com

13. Re: BAE single turbo exhaust questions
From: Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>

14. Re: Delorean Playboy Interview
From: Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>

15. 1983 DMC owners handbook contents
From: MichaelRPack1_at_dml_cs.com

16. Re: BAE single turbo exhaust questions
From: "Bruce Benson" <delornut_at_dml_peoplepc.com>

17. Re: Re: Delorean Playboy Interview
From: Eric Itzel <eric_at_dml_seviernet.com>

18. Re: Delorean Playboy Interview
From: "erikgeerdink" <erikgeerdink_at_dml_yahoo.com>

19. High idle (not linkage)
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>

20. Re: Idle yet again
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

21. Re: Re: Delorean Playboy Interview
From: Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman_at_dml_fuse.net>

22. Re: High idle (not linkage)
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

23. Re: Single Piece Trim Panel vs Padded Arm Rest Extension
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

24. Re: 1983 DMC owners handbook contents
From: "Marcel" <mbourgon_at_dml_elp.rr.com>

25. Delorean Cold ..er..."Ocassional" starting
From: "pbartusek" <pbmain_at_dml_mindspring.com>





Message: 1
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 04:34:04 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Re: Idle With Brass Manifold Screws

Lower screw in your pic merely cracks throttle plates (like a
carburetor). Works, but odd fire PRV has tendency to rock & roll like
that. Brass manifold screws accomplish same function with smoother idle.

While manifold screws are generally considered taboo in DeLo world,
are in fact the ONLY way to idle Volvo B27 and Renault R30 (my
replacement block). Those engines do have same hose barbs as DeLo idle
speed motor (barb under fuel distributor is premanently attached, not
O ringed) but use for auxiliary air valves only (fast idle on cold
engine). Idle itself properly set with manifold screws and exhaust gas
analyzer. Is also a poor man's method using tachometer.

B27 and R30 have no place on fuel mixture unit to attach idle
microswitch BTW.

Volvo went to CIS on B28. Also went to two piece fuel mixture unit to
"dampen intake system vibrations" (factory literature) and added
deceleration valves in throttle plates themselves.

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_s...> wrote:
> Dave, There is a lot of reference information on the web site.Here
is the
> link to the picture you need.The idle speed is adjustable.
> John Hervey
> http://www.specialtauto.com/delorean-images/idle-speed-adj.jpg
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Soma576_at_dml_a... [mailto:Soma576_at_dml_a...]
> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 9:09 AM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [DML] Re: idle yet again
> 
> 
> In a message dated 11/15/03 3:00:33 PM Central Standard Time,
> doctorDHD_at_dml_a... writes:
> 
> > My car, 6530, idles irregularly and at 900 - 1200 with both the idle
> > speed screw and the ECU screw out all the way.  Am I screwed up?
> >
> > Dave and 6530
> >
> 
> what is the idle speed screw? What is the ECU screw?  are you
referring to
> the primary idle speed screw (not used since there is electronic idle
> control on
> this car).  the first screw (closest to the mixture unit) should be
lightly
> closed. the other two are balancing screws for the left and right banks
> (also
> not used).  you should close all three screws and then continue
tuning. it
> might just be the problem, since you are not allowing the idle speed
motor
> to
> fully regulate air flow at idle when the screws are open.
> 
> idle is electronically controlled and is not setable, per se.  you can
> increase idle speed by changing the position of the throttle stop
screw, but
> in a
> stock engine, it should be screwed down about 1/4 turn from the
point where
> the
> throttle closes by itself w/o a stop screw.  the stop screw keeps it
from
> binding up or getting damaged.  you should not be playing with this
screw
> other
> than to set it at precisely that point.  when it is screwed in too far
> (raise
> the idle), you are allowing air to get past the butterfly plates, again
> bypassing the idle speed motor and not allowing it to do its job
properly.
> 
> some discussion in recent weeks have pointed to a good use of the three
> brass
> idle screws to help smooth out the idle, but do not try this until
> EVERYTHING
> is 100% perfect.  you don't want to introduce more variables while
fixing a
> problem!
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:52:51 -0600
From: Mark Valuch <dmcvin6683_at_dml_wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Headlight Conversion / Automatic Transmissions?

I drive my car to work in the summer 28 miles one way in stop and go 
traffic and it is a 5 speed and no problems here. Maybe there was a 
clutch or transmission problem with that car.

When the Delorean is moving it is a very easy car to steer, when it is 
stopped it is a little harder but you will get used to it.

Mark
6683


On Sunday, November 16, 2003, at 08:31 PM, Josh Haldeman wrote:

> Wow...Have you ever driven a stick before Videobob?
>
> Just curious, as I don't have any more trouble with my DeLoreans than I
> do driving any other manual.  It could have been one or more issues 
> with
> the particular car you tested.
>
> -Josh
> VIN 5102
> VIN 15964
> VIN Parts Bin
>
>
> Video Bob wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all the advice.
>> Well, I went to drive the stick today.
>> I HATED IT.
>> it was like wrestling an aligator.
>> My foot hit the clutch OK, but it seems like they pushed the brake 
>> over
>> towards the gas a little
>> and I kept hitting the brake.
>> Trying to push in that hard clutch, shift, and wrestle that
>> non-powered-wheel.... damn.
>> I only drove it for 10 minutes and you would think I just worked out!
>> It would be tough to have it as a daily driver.
>>
>> Verdict: I am going for the automatic.
>>
>> - Videobob
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 04:54:27 -0000
From: "supermattthehero" <supermatty_at_dml_psu.edu>
Subject: Re: Protection Cap Armrest Extension?

I have a related question.  Are all cars able to "accept" these
armrest extensions?  I have an early 81 (#1604) and the passenger side
has a cap on it, but it looks like it would be difficult to fit one on
the driver-side with the way the piece is shaped.  

Matt
#1604

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "videobob11" <videobob_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> I was reading through the "Delorean One Service and Technical
> Bulletins" book, and bulletin # ST-14-9/81 shows "Service Action
> SA-0005" for the placement of a "protection Cap Armrest Extension" to
> be added.
> This is a cool little plastic cap to cover that peice on the 
> side of the wall near the seat that always gets ripped from getting
> in and out of the car.
> Almost every single D I have seen has a tear, or at least excessive
> wear in that spot.
> This plastic cap is supposed to glue on that spot.
> 
> Does anyone know where I can get these?
> They are not listed as a part on DMCH's website.
> If anyone knows where you can get them let me know!
> - Videobob




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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:32:21 -0800
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>
Subject: RE: Protection Cap Armrest Extension?

I have them in stock.
John
www.specialTauto.com


-----Original Message-----
From: videobob11 [mailto:videobob_at_dml_hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 8:02 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Protection Cap Armrest Extension?


I was reading through the "Delorean One Service and Technical
Bulletins" book, and bulletin # ST-14-9/81 shows "Service Action
SA-0005" for the placement of a "protection Cap Armrest Extension" to
be added.
This is a cool little plastic cap to cover that peice on the
side of the wall near the seat that always gets ripped from getting
in and out of the car.
Almost every single D I have seen has a tear, or at least excessive
wear in that spot.
This plastic cap is supposed to glue on that spot.

Does anyone know where I can get these?
They are not listed as a part on DMCH's website.
If anyone knows where you can get them let me know!
- Videobob



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:50:35 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Protection Cap Armrest Extension?

Call DMCH. When I saw the wharehouse in Ohio there was a tot bin full
of them. The right hand one needs a little trimming to get it to fit
as nicely as the left one but they do cover that area and protect it
nicely. Remove the double-stick tape it comes with and use fresh
stuff, the origional is 20 years old and you will have a lot of touble
removing the peel-off tape and it won't be sticky enough to stay on.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "videobob11" <videobob_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> I was reading through the "Delorean One Service and Technical
> Bulletins" book, and bulletin # ST-14-9/81 shows "Service Action
> SA-0005" for the placement of a "protection Cap Armrest Extension" to
> be added.
> This is a cool little plastic cap to cover that peice on the 
> side of the wall near the seat that always gets ripped from getting
> in and out of the car.
> Almost every single D I have seen has a tear, or at least excessive
> wear in that spot.
> This plastic cap is supposed to glue on that spot.
> 
> Does anyone know where I can get these?
> They are not listed as a part on DMCH's website.
> If anyone knows where you can get them let me know!
> - Videobob




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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:55:47 EST
From: billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: MD tech session.....thanks

This thank you is long overdue but it has been a very busy week for myself so 
I am finally writing a thank you. About 2 weeks ago Rich A put out a DMC 
S.O.S as he was temporarily throwing in the towel....Several owners came to his 
rescue in the form of an informal tech session here in MD. Dave Straggand 
answered the bell as did Bill Robinosn from NC. 

What was amazing is how fast it all came together and the amount of firepower 
that was brought into my garage. Rich's car arrived on a flatbed driven a by 
a friend of Bill's for no charge. Dave Straggand was there to provide triage 
for Richs and my car. With the precision of a surgeon Dave patiently listened 
to both of our engines and began pulling about 10 truckloads of tools and parts 
out of his car. One thing we discovered is that Dave has a fondness for the 
little plastic 10 item or less grocery hand carts as he used many of those to 
transport his tools :-).

He had my car hooked up to his portable computer and gave me a full diagnois 
of my engine. After a few hours of cleaning, fixing, adjusting and replacing 
it was time to re-start the car. It now idles perfectly and drives better then 
it ever has. He even found the mystery ground wire that I have bugged people 
about for 2 years. It was cleverly hidden inside the main wire harness under 
the washer motor. Several peoplehad told me it was the last obvious place for it 
to be grounded.

The work we did on Rich's car was extensive. At 4am when Rich, myself and 
Dave were starting to fatigue and collapse Bill Robinson was still under the car 
barking out orders for replacing the trailing arm bolts. Bill was tireless and 
really helped both myself and Rich out. What made the evening funny is how 
BIll kept telling Rich and me that we could solve all of our problems by ripping 
the Lamba system out :-).....

Bill also let me steal a few of his shiny new bolts so now my engine 
compartment shines. Again, just wanted to publicly thank Bill and Dave S for helping 
out Rich and myself. Bill drove 6 hours + and Dave drove 4 hours to get to my 
house. 

Because of people like them owning a DMC is that much easier.

Mike C
2109 


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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:39:45 -0000
From: "dmeester" <list_at_dml_meester.us>
Subject: BAE single turbo exhaust questions

My car has the single BAE turbo installed.  It has 23K on it, and it 
looks like this turbo was installed years ago.  I love the 
performance of the car.  Here is my problem.  I don't like the 
exhaust.  I don't like the sound or the looks.  When converting the 
car to the single turbo they replaced the mufler to a single tail 
pipe.  The mufler is starting to rust since it's not stainless and it 
just doesn't look or sound good.  I would like to have more of a 
performance sound as well as stainless with dual exhaust pipes.  What 
kind of setup is available?  What do others with a single BAE turbo 
have?  I realize that the turbo has limited the space, that's why 
mine was probably modified.  Thanks in advance for any help on this.

Daniel




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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:53:18 EST (-0500)
From: "Michael Paine" <mpaine_at_dml_tycomsystems.com>
Subject: Re: Protection Cap Armrest Extension?

PJ Grady has them - http://www.pjgrady.com - give them a call. They 
come in 2 sizes you need to measure the area to see if you have the 
larger or the smaller. Note: it's only something like an 1/8" 
difference but it matters.

regards,

Michael
vin 6067

> I was reading through the "Delorean One Service and Technical
> Bulletins" book, and bulletin # ST-14-9/81 shows "Service Action
> SA-0005" for the placement of a "protection Cap Armrest Extension" to
> be added.
> This is a cool little plastic cap to cover that peice on the 
> side of the wall near the seat that always gets ripped from getting
> in and out of the car.
> Almost every single D I have seen has a tear, or at least excessive
> wear in that spot.
> This plastic cap is supposed to glue on that spot.
> 
> Does anyone know where I can get these?
> They are not listed as a part on DMCH's website.
> If anyone knows where you can get them let me know!
> - Videobob
> 
> 
> 
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:21:16 EST
From: doctorDHD_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Idle yet again

Andy,

By idle speed screw, I meant the screw on the throttle linkage and by ECU 
screw, I meant the screw that pushes on the microswitch.

By the way, when the connector to the Idle Speed Regulator is disconnected, 
does it stay in the last position it was in or does it return to some other 
position?

My three brass screws are seated closed...

Dave & 6530



Message: 7
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:09:05 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: idle yet again

In a message dated 11/15/03 3:00:33 PM Central Standard Time, 
doctorDHD_at_dml_aol.com writes:

> My car, 6530, idles irregularly and at 900 - 1200 with both the idle 
> speed screw and the ECU screw out all the way.  Am I screwed up?
> 
> Dave and 6530
> 

what is the idle speed screw? What is the ECU screw?  are you referring to 
the primary idle speed screw (not used since there is electronic idle control 
on 
this car).  the first screw (closest to the mixture unit) should be lightly 
closed. the other two are balancing screws for the left and right banks (also 
not used).  you should close all three screws and then continue tuning. it 
might just be the problem, since you are not allowing the idle speed motor to 
fully regulate air flow at idle when the screws are open.

idle is electronically controlled and is not setable, per se.  you can 
increase idle speed by changing the position of the throttle stop screw, but 
in a 
stock engine, it should be screwed down about 1/4 turn from the point where 
the 
throttle closes by itself w/o a stop screw.  the stop screw keeps it from 
binding up or getting damaged.  you should not be playing with this screw 
other 
than to set it at precisely that point.  when it is screwed in too far (raise 
the idle), you are allowing air to get past the butterfly plates, again 
bypassing the idle speed motor and not allowing it to do its job properly. 

some discussion in recent weeks have pointed to a good use of the three brass 
idle screws to help smooth out the idle, but do not try this until EVERYTHING 
is 100% perfect.  you don't want to introduce more variables while fixing a 
problem!

Andy


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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:30:40 -0500
From: MichaelRPack1_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: DeLorean Engine, Transmission, Clutch, Frame 4 sale


Hello all,

Have an 83 engine with 5 speed transmission, 11,000 miles, and frame from car for sale. Will accept best offer. 

Mike



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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:04:55 -0800
From: "Bruce Benson" <delornut_at_dml_peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: Protection Cap Armrest Extension?

The trim panel utilizing the protective cap extension was redesigned and
installed in cars begining with vin # 6093. I don't belive these newer cars
need the protective cap.

Bruce Benson


>Subject: [DML] Protection Cap Armrest Extension?


> I was reading through the "Delorean One Service and Technical
> Bulletins" book, and bulletin # ST-14-9/81 shows "Service Action
> SA-0005" for the placement of a "protection Cap Armrest Extension" to
> be added.
> This is a cool little plastic cap to cover that peice on the
> side of the wall near the seat that always gets ripped from getting
> in and out of the car.
> Almost every single D I have seen has a tear, or at least excessive
> wear in that spot.





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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:03:55 -0500
From: MichaelRPack1_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: 1983 DeLoreans



What is the history on the 1983's?

Mike



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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:04:41 -0600
From: Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>
Subject: Re: BAE single turbo exhaust questions

Dan,

The 82 Camaro Z-28 had a single input dual outlet muffler similar to the 
Delorean.

THere are also single inlet dual outlet turbo mufflers in the 
aftermarket. A good muffler shop should be able to fit one for you.


BOB




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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:11:06 -0600
From: Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>
Subject: Re: Delorean Playboy Interview

I managed to get my hands on the 1981 Playboy issue where they 
interviewed John Delorean.

He talks about
-waranteeing the car for 25 years.
-the planned sedan
-possibly a bus because of the potential for increased mass transit due 
to increasing fuel costs.
-letting workers optimize the production line
-avoiding ergonomic hazards in the production line
-why the Japaneese are building better cars than Detroit

How GM screwed him out of his $600,000 bonus after he let GM because he 
approaching GM dealers to market his car.

Interesting stuff.

BOB




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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:02:56 -0500
From: MichaelRPack1_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: 1983 DMC owners handbook contents


What are the correct contents of the 1983 DMC owners handbook?
Does anyone know where I can purchase one?

I have a complete original 1981 handbook for sale or trade.

Sincerely,
Michael



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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:17:27 -0800
From: "Bruce Benson" <delornut_at_dml_peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: BAE single turbo exhaust questions

The BAE kits used a single exhaust with a generic muffler. The kits included
a dummy pipe to weld in place of the normal driver's side exhaust pipe.
Because of the location of the turbocharger a real dual exhaust would be
difficult. I made a single turbo set up for my car years back and it took
some crazy pipe bends to gain working dual exhaust pipes. There was no
performance gain from that as it was strictly an esthetic thing.The easiest
way to upgrade your car would be to measure the offset of the inlet and
outlet pipes on your muffler and find a replacement from someplace like
Summit Racing. They offer stainless mufflers in a variety of pipe sizes and
offset configurations. One I'd suggest is the Edelbrock muffler. They
outflow Flowmasters and sound pretty good. Remember, the PRV engine is a odd
firing V-6 engine and the exhaust note will never match the mellow sound of
an even firing V-8.

Bruce Benson

>Subject: [DML] BAE single turbo exhaust questions

>  I don't like the
> exhaust.  I don't like the sound or the looks.   it
> just doesn't look or sound good.  I would like to have more of a
> performance sound as well as stainless with dual exhaust pipes.  What
> kind of setup is available?  What do others with a single BAE turbo
> have? > mine was probably modified.  Thanks in advance for any help on
this.
>
> Daniel





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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:09:29 -0500
From: Eric Itzel <eric_at_dml_seviernet.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Delorean Playboy Interview

So what they say about the articles in Playboy is true! :)

Eric Itzel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Brandys" <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 11:11 AM
Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Playboy Interview


> I managed to get my hands on the 1981 Playboy issue where they
> interviewed John Delorean.
>
> He talks about
> -waranteeing the car for 25 years.
> -the planned sedan
> -possibly a bus because of the potential for increased mass transit due
> to increasing fuel costs.
> -letting workers optimize the production line
> -avoiding ergonomic hazards in the production line
> -why the Japaneese are building better cars than Detroit
>
> How GM screwed him out of his $600,000 bonus after he let GM because he
> approaching GM dealers to market his car.
>
> Interesting stuff.
>
> BOB
>
>
>
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:08:13 -0000
From: "erikgeerdink" <erikgeerdink_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Delorean Playboy Interview

I have this magazine too.  And honestly, i bought it for the 
articles.

Erik


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_s...> wrote:
> I managed to get my hands on the 1981 Playboy issue where they 
> interviewed John Delorean.
> 
> He talks about
> -waranteeing the car for 25 years.
> -the planned sedan
> -possibly a bus because of the potential for increased mass 
transit due 
> to increasing fuel costs.
> -letting workers optimize the production line
> -avoiding ergonomic hazards in the production line
> -why the Japaneese are building better cars than Detroit
> 
> How GM screwed him out of his $600,000 bonus after he let GM 
because he 
> approaching GM dealers to market his car.
> 
> Interesting stuff.
> 
> BOB




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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:51:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>
Subject: High idle (not linkage)

Hi guys,

I was holding off on posting this problem until I had my o2 sensor
replaced, which I did this morning.

The problem is that when I start the car up, it idles fine. After driving
25 minutes on the highway to work though, it idles around 1500 RPM. I've
left the car running, opened up the engine compartment, and pushed on the
throttle linkage, but I find that it always returns all the way. The next
time I start the car up (provided that it's cooled off), it idles fine
again.

What else should I check?

Thanks,
Christian




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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:23:05 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Idle yet again

In a message dated 11/17/03 9:47:07 AM Central Standard Time, 
doctorDHD_at_dml_aol.com writes:

> Andy,
> 
> By idle speed screw, I meant the screw on the throttle linkage and by ECU 
> screw, I meant the screw that pushes on the microswitch.
> 
> By the way, when the connector to the Idle Speed Regulator is disconnected, 
> does it stay in the last position it was in or does it return to some other 
> position?
> 
> My three brass screws are seated closed...
> 
> Dave &6530
> 

The idle motor stops where it is.

The two upper screws you speak of are adjusted in this manner:
1. competely remove both nuts and screws
2. allow throttle to completely close due to the throttle plates closing and 
tight linkage.
3. insert stop screw and thread until it barely touches stop plate.
4. give it 1/4 turn and lock it down with a nut, being careful not to let the 
screw turn as well.
5. thread the upper idle switch screw until you hear the switch click, then 
give it another turn for good measure.  you should be able to push the switch 
down much further with a screwdriver, but that doesn't matter, as long as it 
clicked.
6. lock down with the nut.

the throttle should stop when closed due to the lower stop screw, not due to 
linkage (causes damage if slammed down) but there should be minimal lift of 
the throttle (minimum threading to make it open).  the idle switch should click 
every time, no matter if you let go of the gas pedal quickly or slowly.

Andy


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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:39:37 -0500
From: Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman_at_dml_fuse.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Delorean Playboy Interview

I bought mine for the 8-track/reel-to-reel stereo and liesure suit 
ads...oh yeah...and the gratuitous nudity.

Nice having a DeLorean interview in there too though! (haha)

-Josh


erikgeerdink wrote:

>I have this magazine too.  And honestly, i bought it for the 
>articles.
>
>Erik
>
>
>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_s...> wrote:
>  
>
>>I managed to get my hands on the 1981 Playboy issue where they 
>>interviewed John Delorean.
>>
>  
>





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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:42:07 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: High idle (not linkage)

Check the vacuum advance system. Make sure it is operating properly
and the hoses are hooked up right and there are no leaks. You could
also put a timing light on the motor to make sure the system is set right.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_f...> wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 


> What else should I check?
> 
> Thanks,
> Christian




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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:27:18 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Re: Single Piece Trim Panel vs Padded Arm Rest Extension

"Single piece" trim panels used in '82 and '83 are actually
traditional two piece padded designs with a vacuum formed skin over
them. Eventually suffer from same wear & tear as original, though
certainly not as fast.

James Espey has considered manufacturing true single piece trim
panels, but at this time demand is estimated far below tooling costs.

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Benson" <delornut_at_dml_p...> wrote:
> The trim panel utilizing the protective cap extension was redesigned and
> installed in cars begining with vin # 6093. I don't belive these
newer cars
> need the protective cap.
> 
> Bruce Benson
> 
> 
> >Subject: [DML] Protection Cap Armrest Extension?
> 
> 
> > I was reading through the "Delorean One Service and Technical
> > Bulletins" book, and bulletin # ST-14-9/81 shows "Service Action
> > SA-0005" for the placement of a "protection Cap Armrest Extension" to
> > be added.
> > This is a cool little plastic cap to cover that peice on the
> > side of the wall near the seat that always gets ripped from getting
> > in and out of the car.
> > Almost every single D I have seen has a tear, or at least excessive
> > wear in that spot.




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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:54:31 -0700
From: "Marcel" <mbourgon_at_dml_elp.rr.com>
Subject: Re: 1983 DMC owners handbook contents

Michael;
I don't know about the 1983 manual but I would be interested in your 1981
owners manua.  Please let me know how much and where I can mail check
Marcel in El Paso
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <MichaelRPack1_at_dml_cs.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:02 AM
Subject: [DML] 1983 DMC owners handbook contents


>
> What are the correct contents of the 1983 DMC owners handbook?
> Does anyone know where I can purchase one?
>
> I have a complete original 1981 handbook for sale or trade.
>
> Sincerely,
> Michael
>
>
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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:29:32 -0000
From: "pbartusek" <pbmain_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: Delorean Cold ..er..."Ocassional" starting

Had a tech question - My car seems to run fine...once it gets 
running. I have to admin I don't drive it a whole lot, and I usually 
keep it on a maintainer when it's in storage. However, if it's 
sitting, for say a few weeks... I go to start the car, it turns over 
just fine, but it's as if it's not getting enough gas.  Giving it 
gas or just letting it crank doesn't do anything beneficial... But 
if you turn the ignition, let it crank for a couple seconds, then 
shut if off, then crank for a couple more seconds, and repeat 
several times, eventually it gets happy, starts to sound like it's 
trying to actually start up rather than endless cranking, and 
eventually 'catches' and starts running where it goes into a nice 
smooth startup cycle, and idles and runs cleanly after that.  It 
never varies... meaning, if it sits for a while, it takes just as 
long to start it every time..it's not something that 'may start 
right away'...it's always a couple minutes of this process.

If I go driving around for a while and then shut it off and go to 
start it again, it starts right up.  Let it sit for the rest of the 
day, it still starts up just fine.  It just doesn't like prolonged 
periods of sitting.  I'm just trying to figure out what technically 
may be causing this issue, so I can find a way around having to do 
the circus act with the starter...it's definitely not helping the 
longevity of the starter...:)

Pete




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