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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1759
Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 6:11 AM

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There are 12 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Delorean Cold ..er..."Ocassional" starting - more info
From: "pbartusek" <pbmain_at_dml_mindspring.com>

2. RE: 1983 DMC owners handbook contents
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>

3. Delorean meeting in Germany
From: jordan rubin <nuttenschleuder_at_dml_yahoo.com>

4. California Car Covers
From: Samuel <samuel_yahoo_at_dml_lightspeed.cx>

5. Re: California Car Covers
From: Mark Fearer <mfearer_at_dml_mail.fearernet.com>

6. Re: California Car Covers
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>

7. Re: Headlight Conversion / Automatic Transmissions?
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

8. Re: California Car Covers
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>

9. Re: California Car Covers
From: "Bill Lane" <blane_at_dml_triad.rr.com>

10. RE: California Car Covers
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_mchsi.com>

11. RE: Delorean Cold ..er..."Ocassional" starting - more info
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>

12. DeLorean business opportunity
From: "darryl" <darryl_at_dml_techline.com>





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:10:05 -0000
From: "pbartusek" <pbmain_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: Delorean Cold ..er..."Ocassional" starting - more info

Thanks for the emails, everyone..!

Just FYI - I've replaced, within the last year, the fuel 
pump/pickup/lines, battery, spark plugs, wires, pretty much had the 
whole engine taken apart to troubleshoot an issue that turned out to 
be troublesome injectors...so the engine's been pretty well gone 
through and double checked from a mechanical level.   Is there a way 
to test the RPM Relay?  

I'll probably take the maintainer off once I get the battery charged 
up again, and replace it with a remote cutoff switch...

Pete 




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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:35:19 -0800
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>
Subject: RE: 1983 DMC owners handbook contents

Marcel & Michael
Maby this link will help you to ID the information in the owners packets.
John Hervey
http://www.specialtauto.com/delorean-parts/liturature-3.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Marcel [mailto:mbourgon_at_dml_elp.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 4:55 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] 1983 DMC owners handbook contents


Michael;
I don't know about the 1983 manual but I would be interested in your 1981
owners manua.  Please let me know how much and where I can mail check
Marcel in El Paso
----- Original Message -----
From: <MichaelRPack1_at_dml_cs.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:02 AM
Subject: [DML] 1983 DMC owners handbook contents


>
> What are the correct contents of the 1983 DMC owners handbook?
> Does anyone know where I can purchase one?
>
> I have a complete original 1981 handbook for sale or trade.
>
> Sincerely,
> Michael
>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:57:57 -0800 (PST)
From: jordan rubin <nuttenschleuder_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Delorean meeting in Germany

Hello all,

    Im happy to say that the Delorean meeting in
Germany went very well this weekend.  We had 6 people
and 3 Deloreans parked in front of the house.  We
worked on the cars till it got dark out (4:30pm)  and
then had a bar-b-que at my place.  We then went to an
Irish pub downtown to finish off the night.

I gave Elvis my spare valve covers to bead blast,
check out the awesome job.

http://retroserver.no-ip.com/delorean/Bead_blasting.html

thanx

jordan 11613

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:11:01 -0500
From: Samuel <samuel_yahoo_at_dml_lightspeed.cx>
Subject: California Car Covers

I was looking at calcarcover.com, as it was previously mentioned on the 
list, and noticed they have a 1981 and 1982 for the model. I am guessing 
the 1981 has a hole for the antenna. I tried to find this out from them 
but they didnt seem to be sure of this. I am wondering if anyone on the 
list can shed some light on this possible difference as I cant think of 
anything else that would be different for the car.

Samuel




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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:48:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Mark Fearer <mfearer_at_dml_mail.fearernet.com>
Subject: Re: California Car Covers

Hi. I bought one from California Car Cover for my (previous) 1981, VIN
3072. It did *not* come with a hole for the antenna on the right front
fender. I cut one for it. I still have that car cover, but the car has
been sold. Anyone want to buy it?

Mark Fearer
Manchester, New Hampshire



On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Samuel wrote:

> I was looking at calcarcover.com, as it was previously mentioned on the 
> list, and noticed they have a 1981 and 1982 for the model. I am guessing 
> the 1981 has a hole for the antenna. I tried to find this out from them 
> but they didnt seem to be sure of this. I am wondering if anyone on the 
> list can shed some light on this possible difference as I cant think of 
> anything else that would be different for the car.
> 
> Samuel
> 
> 
> 
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:02:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>
Subject: Re: California Car Covers

A lot of times, sites will just list all model years for a car when there
are no differences. I think the same thing happens at tirerack.com when
you're looking for tires - you have to specify the year of the DeLorean
even though the tire sizes didn't change.

Also, I don't think that there was a definate model year split between the
antennas.

Ask them if they can take one out of the box and look at it, or if you can
return it if there's no hole.

-Christian

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Samuel wrote:

> I was looking at calcarcover.com, as it was previously mentioned on the
> list, and noticed they have a 1981 and 1982 for the model. I am guessing
> the 1981 has a hole for the antenna. I tried to find this out from them
> but they didnt seem to be sure of this. I am wondering if anyone on the
> list can shed some light on this possible difference as I cant think of
> anything else that would be different for the car.
>
> Samuel
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:32:25 -0500
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Headlight Conversion / Automatic Transmissions?

In a message dated 11/16/2003 6:19:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com writes:

> As fot the tranny fluid, no, it should NEVER smell burned, and it 
> should ALWAYS be red! DeLorean, Ford, Chevy, Dodge, or any other car, if 
> the fluid is that color, the transmission is going to be in for some work down 
> the road, and who knows how soon. Of corse this can also 
> work in your favor, 
> at the bargaining table, when haggling over price.

Personally, if I were buying a car that wasn't just for getting me thru a winter or something, i would never buy a car with transmission fluid that wasn't reasonably bright pink and didn't smell burnt.  little do most people know, but if it is dark and smells burned, too bad, the damage has already been done - you already overheated the transmission (or have other deep problems)!!  if it isn't bright pink with a sweet petroleum smell, the clutch packs are already wearing, the oil is losing viscosity, and a number of other inhibitors and modifiers are probably spent or inadequate.  at my work, i see many people come in every day with truely burned transmission fluid, but they tell me the transmission shifts ok so it must still be good, right??????

the key here is preventative maintenence.  if you are looking at a DeLorean with burned tranny fluid, who knows what other maintenence doesn't get done to it, the owner is probably ignorant or just doesn't care to spend the money to keep it running its very best.  pay close attention to the condition of the brake/clutch fluid and the water hoses.  these are typically overlooked by half-way-caring owners.

be careful changing transmission fluid on a car with burned fluid.  sometimes the tranny has been driven for so long with crap fluid in it that the clutch packs get damaged to the point where it actually won't shift w/o that low viscosity burned stuff.  when you put good clean fluid in it, it will slip a few weeks later until it won't shift anymore.  whoops! maybe you SHOULD have done as the owner's manual recommends!!  my shop won't do a flush if it is really bad for this reason.  usually then we will only do pan drop services to fix leaks, change the filter, and put a little clean stuff in to get the tranny thru another couple of seasons.  there are products out there that will improve the viscosity of tranny fluid to help eliminate slipping, but in my experience, it only lasts about a month before you need to put more in, so it really won't 'fix' it. how about a rebuild instead?

buyer beware!
Andy



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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 02:17:28 -0000
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Re: California Car Covers

I ordered the CB26SD for the "81" and it did not have a hole for the 
antenna on the fender. BTW, a great cover and perfect fit. I can't 
think of any other differences required to fit.

Harold McElraft - 3354



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Samuel <samuel_yahoo_at_dml_l...> wrote:
> I was looking at calcarcover.com, as it was previously mentioned 
on the 
> list, and noticed they have a 1981 and 1982 for the model. I am 
guessing 
> the 1981 has a hole for the antenna. I tried to find this out from 
them 
> but they didnt seem to be sure of this. I am wondering if anyone 
on the 
> list can shed some light on this possible difference as I cant 
think of 
> anything else that would be different for the car.
> 
> Samuel




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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:45:14 -0500
From: "Bill Lane" <blane_at_dml_triad.rr.com>
Subject: Re: California Car Covers

Samuel,

I have been using a California car cover for years.  The cover fits very
well but you will have to make a hole for the antenna.  The instructions
that come with the cover explain the proper way to make the hole if I
remember correctly.

By the way 1981's had all three variations of antenna location (in the
windshield, the right front fender and left rear retractable).  This is
probably why they did not automatically put a hole in for the antenna.

Bill Lane
#3635





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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:08:28 -0600
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_mchsi.com>
Subject: RE: California Car Covers

My cover does not have a hole for my left front fender antenna.

I unscrew and remove the antenna before using my cover.

Scott Mueller
002981
RNDOLA


-----Original Message-----
From: Samuel [mailto:samuel_yahoo_at_dml_lightspeed.cx] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:11 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] California Car Covers


I was looking at calcarcover.com, as it was previously mentioned on the 
list, and noticed they have a 1981 and 1982 for the model. I am guessing 
the 1981 has a hole for the antenna. I tried to find this out from them 
but they didnt seem to be sure of this. I am wondering if anyone on the 
list can shed some light on this possible difference as I cant think of 
anything else that would be different for the car.

Samuel




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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:57:31 -0800
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>
Subject: RE: Delorean Cold ..er..."Ocassional" starting - more info

Pete, The contacts in the RPM relay may be burn't and that can be looked at
when you take the cover off. But if the car will crank and run the RPM relay
is working.
John Hervey


-----Original Message-----
From: pbartusek [mailto:pbmain_at_dml_mindspring.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:10 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Delorean Cold ..er..."Ocassional" starting - more info


Thanks for the emails, everyone..!

Just FYI - I've replaced, within the last year, the fuel
pump/pickup/lines, battery, spark plugs, wires, pretty much had the
whole engine taken apart to troubleshoot an issue that turned out to
be troublesome injectors...so the engine's been pretty well gone
through and double checked from a mechanical level.   Is there a way
to test the RPM Relay?

I'll probably take the maintainer off once I get the battery charged
up again, and replace it with a remote cutoff switch...

Pete



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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:05:36 -0800
From: "darryl" <darryl_at_dml_techline.com>
Subject: DeLorean business opportunity

If anyone is interested there is an ad posted under "Parts for sale" in the DMCNews.com classifieds for a rare DeLorean business opportunity.  Here's your chance to buy one of the largest original parts inventories outside of Houston (for pennies on the dollar), to continue a very successful mail-order business operation or for opening your own repair shop.  Check it out.

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