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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1768
Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 12:25 AM

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There are 7 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Painting Fascias
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

2. Re: Painting Fascias
From: billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com

3. 81 DeLorean for sale
From: BLuDSuKKuR_at_dml_aol.com

4. Re: Automatic shifting troubles
From: "Video Bob" <videobob_at_dml_hotmail.com>

5. Re: Painting Fascias
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

6. carpet
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

7. DeLorean Car Show Magaxine
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 04:28:44 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Painting Fascias

They can be painted in place but they will come out much nicer if you
remove them. It is a lot of work and you will break many of the little
screws. If the shop uses the right type of paint for flexible parts it
won't matter about the flex. Look up the paint code in the archive, it
is a Ditzler # but it can be crossed over to all the paint companies.
If you have any doubts about the competance of the shop you might
consider shipping them to one of the Delorean venders. They will deal
with shops that know how to do it right. It probably won't cost any
more to do it that way except for the shipping.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, steve trimble <stevetrimble52_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> I hope all of you veteran owners will be patient with
> a couple of questions. I have been looking at the
> front and rear fascia and finally realized that the
> car will never look really sharp until I get them





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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:58:20 EST
From: billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Painting Fascias

Just had mine painted on the car and they look great.... Ken Koncelik  is a 
good person to ask. Hardest part is all the prep and finding a shop that will 
do it...I have heard price ranges from $300-500

good luck
Mike C


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:40:04 EST
From: BLuDSuKKuR_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: 81 DeLorean for sale

hey guys....selling my DeLorean its an 81 auto,grey interior,dealer applyed 
side stripes, very good cond, needs just a little TLC to be mint im in MA 
$11,000 neg
gimme a call if interested 
(508)-962-7000 cell
Matt


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:57:12 -0600
From: "Video Bob" <videobob_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Automatic shifting troubles

I have a simular problem, except on my car (VIN 5278, gray auto)
it will shift from 1st to 2nd OK, but will not go into 3rd unless you floor 
it and then let off.
This only started happening the other day when it got really cold.
After about 5-10 minutes when it warms up, and finally goes into 3rd,
it is fine again until you let it sit and cool off.
I know that my transmission fluid is "burnt" and have been urged not to 
change it
until I am ready for a rebuild.
I don't know if MY problem is fluid related, or computer related.
- VB
>
>Ok, I have sent this to select individuals already, but I'm going to shout 
>this one out to everyone just for suggestions/ideas.
>
>
>This is the problem I have everyone.
>
>The first 10 minutes or so, she drives perfectly, shifting from 1st to 2nd 
>to 3rd with no problem. However, once the car has had about 3 miles down 
>the road, I will have the car in 1st going down the road and it sticks in 
>1st. If I try to accelerate, I get nothing but engine reving; the engine 
>simply will not go from 1st to 2nd - it is solidly stuck in 1st. When 
>trying to go to 2nd, it's almost as if it's in neutral, and you can hold 
>the pedal down all you want - it will not go from 1st to 2nd. IF I come to 
>a complete stop and hit the accelerator, she will drive no problem but only 
>in 1st gear; the car will simply not go to 2nd or 3rd What I don't 
>understand is it works just fine the 1st 10 minutes or the first 2-3 
>miles...then all of a sudden that problem pops up.
>
>This sounds to me like the solenoids/computer governor may have gone bad, 
>what does everyone else think?  This is also, of course,why I'm thinking 
>about having the computer governor rebuilt.  Thank you for your time 
>everyone.
>
>
>
>Jeremiah
>
>Vin #03299
>
>

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:41:33 EST
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Painting Fascias

I just painted a whole bunch of them last weekend and they are ok to paint on 
or off the car.

The paint you use is K36 as a primer from PPG and use 201 as the hardener.

The paint is DBU 33584 and the paint itself has a flexibilixer in it already 
so the paint is no problem.  It also goes on heavy and is not bad at filling a 
lot of imperfections.

Usa a DRR 1160, 1170, or 1180 reducer/activator

The clear is where you need to be careful.   

I use an Akso Reliance (spelling here) clear but have also use some of the 
PPG clears.  

The only clear I have not liked using is the Omni AU.

Delstar is nice but that is one of the more brittle clears and it will not 
crack on you under normal use but can craze over time and thermal conditions, 
although it is the easiest to put on and the fastest to cure.  Adding a 
flexibilzer to the clear does little in my opinion to the paint as it handles fine.  
Also the flexibilizers toend ot gas out anyway so go with a clear that tends to 
be flexible anyway.  Just go wtih what you are comfotrable with.

You can paint on or off the car it really does not matter to me anyway.

Cost is roughly

$36 for a quart of primer
$19 for the 201
$27 for a pint of paint
$12 for the reducer
$18 for a quart of clear
$18 for the activator
$12 for a reducer if you so choose and I do.
$23 for flexibilizer that you don't need.

This will do up to 4 facias.

Prices are from my memory and may vary a bit but overall thats about it.

Its about $165 for materials or $40 per facia.
Add to that sanding materials, maskin and repair materials and you easily 
have over $60 in each facia. It takes about 45 minutes your first time to mask a 
facia.  Once you get the hang you can get it down to about 15-20 minutes. 

If you remove the facias add about 2 hours to the job plus an hour to 
reinstall if you haven't broken any studs.

I have a whole series of photos in the DMCNEWS archive so you can see how to 
do it.

Good luck.


Ken


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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:49:13 EST
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: carpet

Does anyone have the name or phone number of the place in I think Florida 
that has the aftermarket DeLorean Carpets.

thanks

Ken


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:46:23 EST
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: DeLorean Car Show Magaxine

I know some of you have your magazines already and others have not.  They 
were mailed a week ago from last Thursday so this is day 10.  They went Media 
mail so it is supposed to be a 3-8 day deliver (not including weekends).

If you have not recieved it yet be patient our efficient Post Office will 
eventually deliver it (probably after they read it.)  If you have not recieved it 
by next week Thursday please let me know so I can report it to the post 
office.

If you remember last time a few of them took the scenic route.  One mailed in 
April and delivered in July.

Just want to assure all they are out.

Ken


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