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Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 6:40 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: DeLorean Car Show Magaxine
From: "erikgeerdink" <erikgeerdink_at_dml_yahoo.com>

2. Re: Leather Care (Delorean Destruction)
From: "v_davidj" <v-davidj_at_dml_microsoft.com>

3. Re: Automatic shifting troubles
From: jordan rubin <nuttenschleuder_at_dml_yahoo.com>

4. RE: Painting Fascias
From: "Gary Hull" <Specialty_at_dml_IN2TIME.com>

5. Re: Automatic shifting troubles
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>

6. Re: Delorean handling question
From: "Payne" <bpayne_at_dml_macnet.com>

7. Re: carpet
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

8. Re: Delorean Dealer Sign
From: Louie Golden <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>

9. Replacing the solenoids?
From: Enid/Jeremiah <hispanicangeleyes_at_dml_yahoo.com>

10. delorean christmas cards....
From: billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com

11. Has this ever happened to you, to anyone?
From: "slowlydownward1313" <slowly_downward_1313_at_dml_hotmail.com>

12. The Dragon
From: Noah <sitz_at_dml_onastick.net>

13. Re: Replacing the solenoids?
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

14. RE: Replacing the solenoids?
From: MichaelRPack1_at_dml_cs.com

15. Re: Painting Fascias
From: Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman_at_dml_fuse.net>

16. Re: RTV Seals
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

17. Stainless Steel Illusion update
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

18. Re: carpet
From: Steve Stankiewicz <protodelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com>

19. RE: Re: Leather Care (Delorean Destruction)
From: MichaelRPack1_at_dml_cs.com

20. Re: Replacing the solenoids?
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

21. Are you a BIG DeLorean fan?
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

22. DeLorean drive with NSX owners this weekend
From: MichaelRPack1_at_dml_cs.com

23. Re: Automatic shifting troubles
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

24. Re: delorean christmas cards....
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>

25. Re: Has this ever happened to you, to anyone?
From: Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman_at_dml_fuse.net>





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:05:48 -0000
From: "erikgeerdink" <erikgeerdink_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: DeLorean Car Show Magaxine

I received mine yesterday Ken.  Thanks!  Another great installment.  
For anyone who has not yet subscribed to this great magazine...what 
are you waiting for?!  There is no valid reason not to subscribe to 
this magazine if you love Deloreans.  Christmas is around the 
corner...a subscription would be a great gift.

Relaxing at work and reading DCS Magazine,
Erik



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, kKoncelik_at_dml_a... wrote:
> I know some of you have your magazines already and others have 
not.  They 
> were mailed a week ago from last Thursday so this is day 10.  They 
went Media 
> mail so it is supposed to be a 3-8 day deliver (not including 
weekends).
> 
> If you have not recieved it yet be patient our efficient Post 
Office will 
> eventually deliver it (probably after they read it.)  If you have 
not recieved it 
> by next week Thursday please let me know so I can report it to the 
post 
> office.
> 
> If you remember last time a few of them took the scenic route.  
One mailed in 
> April and delivered in July.
> 
> Just want to assure all they are out.
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:45:51 -0000
From: "v_davidj" <v-davidj_at_dml_microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: Leather Care (Delorean Destruction)

Hey Michael,

What's in the brew?

Thanks!
Dave

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, MichaelRPack1_at_dml_c... wrote:
> 
> By far, the best leather care products that I have ordered is 
Leatherique. I belong to some other car clubs that get a huge 
discount for Leatherique. I can offer this discount to all of you 
DeLorean owners if you email me offline. The East Coast distributor 
is a good friend of mine.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Michael Pack
> 83 DMC 20069
> 01 BMW 740iL
> 02 BMW M3




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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:53:44 -0800 (PST)
From: jordan rubin <nuttenschleuder_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Automatic shifting troubles

I have to put my two cents in here because I too have
been blessed/cursed with an automatic.

Flame away at will

   There werent many options available for me at the
time of purchase considering that my car was in near
perfect condition, with no major problems and no frame
rust.  That being said, I have come to the conclusion
that the only delorean folks who would really enjoy an
automatic (best suited for them) would be.

1.  People who cant drive stick, naturally

2.  Daily driver folks who drive the belt parkway from
staten island to brooklyn daily

3.  Those occasional drivers who are so worried about
driving the car that having an automatic is less to
focus on while driving.


    Those in the group may remember back in may that i
was considering a transmission swapout for the 5 speed
and was urged not to do it because of the volume of
work required and modification to the frame.  That
being said I could see no reason to destroy an
original perfectly good car to swap out a working
transmission.

    If I could find a delorean that was at the same
quality as mine and a 5 speed id trade it tommorrow,
because at the end of the day, even though it works,
its an automatic, its less powerfull and less economic
than the 5 speed, and quite frankly less fun to drive.
Elvis ruined me when he threw me the keys to his 81 5
speed 2 weeks ago at my house.

Speaking of Elvis, he rebuilds the AT gov and would be
a good person to speak to if your having AT computer
problems in Europe.  He had showed me his lab setup to
test at fix these modules.

   I love owning and driving my delorean but no matter
how good the car is, or how it looks, or engine
condition etc.    It will always be inferior to a
5speed plain and simple.

   BTW, Ill be damned if I will ever fix all of the
leaks on that thing, im almost half tempted to RTV the
auto pan seal to stop that beast from leaking.

AAAHHHH NOOO dont clog the Transmission filter with
RTV, yeah I know.

   
Anyway, that my thoughts and im stickin to it.

thanx

Jordan 11613 auto




--- Video Bob <videobob_at_dml_hotmail.com> wrote:
> I have a simular problem, except on my car (VIN
> 5278, gray auto)
> it will shift from 1st to 2nd OK, but will not go
> into 3rd unless you floor 
> it and then let off.
> This only started happening the other day when it
> got really cold.
> After about 5-10 minutes when it warms up, and
> finally goes into 3rd,
> it is fine again until you let it sit and cool off.
> I know that my transmission fluid is "burnt" and
> have been urged not to 
> change it
> until I am ready for a rebuild.
> I don't know if MY problem is fluid related, or
> computer related.
> - VB
> >
> >Ok, I have sent this to select individuals already,
> but I'm going to shout 
> >this one out to everyone just for
> suggestions/ideas.
> >
> >
> >This is the problem I have everyone.
> >
> >The first 10 minutes or so, she drives perfectly,
> shifting from 1st to 2nd 
> >to 3rd with no problem. However, once the car has
> had about 3 miles down 
> >the road, I will have the car in 1st going down the
> road and it sticks in 
> >1st. If I try to accelerate, I get nothing but
> engine reving; the engine 
> >simply will not go from 1st to 2nd - it is solidly
> stuck in 1st. When 
> >trying to go to 2nd, it's almost as if it's in
> neutral, and you can hold 
> >the pedal down all you want - it will not go from
> 1st to 2nd. IF I come to 
> >a complete stop and hit the accelerator, she will
> drive no problem but only 
> >in 1st gear; the car will simply not go to 2nd or
> 3rd What I don't 
> >understand is it works just fine the 1st 10 minutes
> or the first 2-3 
> >miles...then all of a sudden that problem pops up.
> >
> >This sounds to me like the solenoids/computer
> governor may have gone bad, 
> >what does everyone else think?  This is also, of
> course,why I'm thinking 
> >about having the computer governor rebuilt.  Thank
> you for your time 
> >everyone.
> >
> >
> >
> >Jeremiah
> >
> >Vin #03299
> >
> >
> 
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:04:52 -0800
From: "Gary Hull" <Specialty_at_dml_IN2TIME.com>
Subject: RE: Painting Fascias

Ken,

You said you just painted a few fascias.  Are they for sale?  Based on the
price of the paint and labor, it might be cheaper to get one from you, and
possibly send you mine to paint with the next batch.

Gary
IN2TIME





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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 02:49:20 -0000
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Re: Automatic shifting troubles

If the fluid is burned you should change it. You will never get all 
the old fluid out. A pan change is about 2 1/2 guarts. That will be 
enough to get you some good lubrication and seal protecion but not 
loose the friction properties. Change it again in about 6,000 miles. 
Use Dextron that is not synthetic for these changes. Drain the 
differential too and see if any trans fluid has leaked into it.

Harold McElraft - 3354




--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Video Bob" <videobob_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> I have a simular problem, except on my car (VIN 5278, gray auto)
> it will shift from 1st to 2nd OK, but will not go into 3rd unless 
you floor 
> it and then let off.
> This only started happening the other day when it got really cold.
> After about 5-10 minutes when it warms up, and finally goes into 
3rd,
> it is fine again until you let it sit and cool off.
> I know that my transmission fluid is "burnt" and have been urged 
not to 
> change it
> until I am ready for a rebuild.
> I don't know if MY problem is fluid related, or computer related.
> - VB
> >
> >Ok, I have sent this to select individuals already, but I'm going 
to shout 
> >this one out to everyone just for suggestions/ideas.
> >
> >
> >This is the problem I have everyone.
> >
> >The first 10 minutes or so, she drives perfectly, shifting from 
1st to 2nd 
> >to 3rd with no problem. However, once the car has had about 3 
miles down 
> >the road, I will have the car in 1st going down the road and it 
sticks in 
> >1st. If I try to accelerate, I get nothing but engine reving; the 
engine 
> >simply will not go from 1st to 2nd - it is solidly stuck in 1st. 
When 
> >trying to go to 2nd, it's almost as if it's in neutral, and you 
can hold 
> >the pedal down all you want - it will not go from 1st to 2nd. IF 
I come to 
> >a complete stop and hit the accelerator, she will drive no 
problem but only 
> >in 1st gear; the car will simply not go to 2nd or 3rd What I 
don't 
> >understand is it works just fine the 1st 10 minutes or the first 
2-3 
> >miles...then all of a sudden that problem pops up.
> >
> >This sounds to me like the solenoids/computer governor may have 
gone bad, 
> >what does everyone else think?  This is also, of course,why I'm 
thinking 
> >about having the computer governor rebuilt.  Thank you for your 
time 
> >everyone.
> >
> >
> >
> >Jeremiah
> >
> >Vin #03299
> >
> >
> 
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:06:47 -0800
From: "Payne" <bpayne_at_dml_macnet.com>
Subject: Re: Delorean handling question

> What are the Deloreans figures on the skid pad? And has there been
> any documentation of handling figures on those with dropped
> suspensions etc...?
>

I can't find the figures for DeLoreans with lowered suspension, but
according to a Car and Driver test in the '80s the DeLorean pulled .77 g on
a 282 ft skidpad.

hope this helps

payne
#2975


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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 03:49:04 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Re: carpet

Don't know if this is same company you were thinking of, but was
considering them before I found decent OEM's on eBay:

http://www.dealergoodies.com/page353.html

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, kKoncelik_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Does anyone have the name or phone number of the place in I think
Florida 
> that has the aftermarket DeLorean Carpets.
> 
> thanks
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:17:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Louie Golden <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Re: Delorean Dealer Sign

They usually sell for a price of $1,000-$3,000 on eBay. With damage you'll be looking at the lower end of that spectrum. I'll have to get one eventually...

Louie Golden
VIN 5252 Charlotte, NC


--- Mark Fearer <mfearer_at_dml_mail.fearernet.com> wrote:
Those things go haywire on eBay. Just my $0.02


On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, andog62 wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I have an orginal Delorean Dealer Sign, approx 4' by 12'. Would like 
> to sell, have no clue as to value. The condition is good, been 
> outside the whole time, has a few stratchs and small area of broken 
> plexiglass. Email with any interest or if you have any idea as to 
> value.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Andy

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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:59:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Enid/Jeremiah <hispanicangeleyes_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Replacing the solenoids?

Ok everyone.  Today (Wednesday) I'm going to get the computer governor out of the car.  While everything is dissassembled and all, should I take out the old solenoids as well?  I mean, while it's all apart and all, might as well knock out 2 possible problem areas while the opportunity is available.  I know without a doubt I'm going to have the C/G rebuilt, but how many of you think I should just have the solenoids replaced as well?  I'm kind of curious as to what everyone here may think about that.  I have no problem with it, but I want to make sure I'm not making an overly-cautious move.  Please, once again everyone give me your opinions.  Thank you everyone for your time, attention, and suggestions.
 
Jeremiah
Vin #03299


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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:14:10 -0500
From: billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: delorean christmas cards....

A few years back I bought a set of delorean christmas cards. I thought the artwork with Santa standing next to a DMC was very well done. My family and friends loved getting them too. When I bought them they mentioned they were down to their last few boxes. Just wondering if anyone had any interst in reproducing them or who made them? With the holidays coming up its a nice touch. Although with 3 kiddies my wife tends to go with the photo christmas cards with their pics on them....

drive carefully...AAA says 36 million travlers on the road this week who are all potential targets for your DMC....

mike c 
2109 



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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 05:28:41 -0000
From: "slowlydownward1313" <slowly_downward_1313_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Has this ever happened to you, to anyone?

Interesting DeLorean occurrence:
While leaving a clients house, waiting for the front gate to open, I 
saw between the metal gate a familiar shape cross in front of me, 
driving on the street I was waiting to turn on to. When the gate 
finally opened, curious, I sped up to try to catch a look at the car. 

When I got closer to the car, I quickly realized it was another 
DeLorean! I pulled next to the other D and rolled down my window, and 
so did the other owner. I asked him "Do you think this has ever 
happened?" We had a nice but quick conversation about our cars, 
yelling through our pathetic windows but, comically, we were both 
totally flustered by the freak coincidence of 2 DeLoreans meeting up 
with eachother on the street . 

Needless to say, It made my day. 

Has this ever happened to anyone on the list? 




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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:39:00 -0500
From: Noah <sitz_at_dml_onastick.net>
Subject: The Dragon

For those planning on attending the Pigeon Forge meet and are wondering
what this 'dragon' road is, here's a movie made by someone riding it on
a motorcycle (no, not me). It's long, but it's kinda neat to watch.

http://homepage.mac.com/terry_m/iMovieTheater6.html

--noah
#2867
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:18:35 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Replacing the solenoids?

The solenoids don't seem to fail all that often. You could do a
continuity check to make sure they aren't grounded and do have
continuity. The resistance on both of them should be the same (I have
to look up what it should be but in any case they should both be the
same). If it shifts at all then you can assume they work. Late
shifting, erratic shifting, missing shifts usually indicate a
misbehaving shift computer. I would leave the shift solenoids alone.
The wires and the plug becomes brittle and you will have to replace
the "O" ring seals if you remove them. Change the trans fluid and
clean out the pan and magnet. Clean the filter as per the procedure at
DMCNEWS.COM. The less you do inside the better. I would recomend
checking ALL of the external adjustments though. Follow the procedures
for checking the fluid level in the trans AND the final drive. While
you are under the car inspect the output seals on the final drive and
the C/V boots(4). If any of the boots are cut or torn they should be
replaced quickly and the joints cleaned and relubricated. Minor
wetness on the output seals isn't bad but if it is wet and dirty then
you need a seal and possibly the output flange. BTW you can remove the
shift computer without touching the solenoid wires or plug on the
trans. You remove the 3 large brass hex nuts in the round plug on the
firewall, remove the metal clip holding the wire and leave the wire to
the solenoids in the car. Just make sure to note which color wire goes
to which terminal.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Enid/Jeremiah <hispanicangeleyes_at_dml_y...>
wrote:
> Ok everyone.  Today (Wednesday) I'm going to get the computer
governor out of the car.  While everything is dissassembled and all,
should I take out the old solenoids as well?  I mean, while it's all
apart and all, might as well knock out 2 possible problem areas while 




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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:42:43 -0500
From: MichaelRPack1_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: RE: Replacing the solenoids?


Jeremiah,

Replace everything.

Filter, Fluid, Clean the magnet, Rebuilding the Transmission computer, or replace with a new computer. If your budget allows, replacing the computer and the solinoids should give you worry free driving.
I had to replace the RenaultR-30 Automatic transmission first DMC #3713 to the tune of $4,500. When the computers start to misbehave stop driving until you replace with an new computer.

Sincerely,

Michael
1983 DMC
2001 740iL BMW
2002 BMW M3
1999 NSX

Enid/Jeremiah <hispanicangeleyes_at_dml_yahoo.com> wrote:

>Ok everyone.  Today (Wednesday) I'm going to get the computer governor out of the car.  While everything is dissassembled and all, should I take out the old solenoids as well?  I mean, while it's all apart and all, might as well knock out 2 possible problem areas while the opportunity is available.  I know without a doubt I'm going to have the C/G rebuilt, but how many of you think I should just have the solenoids replaced as well?  I'm kind of curious as to what everyone here may think about that.  I have no problem with it, but I want to make sure I'm not making an overly-cautious move.  Please, once again everyone give me your opinions.  Thank you everyone for your time, attention, and suggestions.
> 
>Jeremiah
>Vin #03299
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:23:50 -0500
From: Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman_at_dml_fuse.net>
Subject: Re: Painting Fascias

Hey Gary,

Actually Ken was just giving me a hand.  I'm the one selling them. 

For anyone who's interested, I've currently got about a dozen used front 
and rear fascias for sale.  They have all been cleaned, patched, sanded, 
primed and painted and are now ready to ship.  Asking $300 apiece...and 
I'll consider a partial refund if you send me your old ones back.

They came out great, and I can send pictures to anyone who's 
interested.  E-mail me privately at jhaldeman(at)fuse.net

Thanks, and have a great Thanksgiving everybody!

-Josh



Gary Hull wrote:

>Ken,
>
>You said you just painted a few fascias.  Are they for sale?  Based on the
>price of the paint and labor, it might be cheaper to get one from you, and
>possibly send you mine to paint with the next batch.
>
>Gary
>IN2TIME
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:58:40 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Re: RTV Seals

Nothing at all wrong with a silicone seal. Problem is people usually
install totally incorrectly. Requires *TWO* torquings. People usually
run a bead then torque to final setting. That not only squishes
silicone into places you don't want it to go (inside transmission pan
for example), but leaves nothing but a thin film between mating surfaces.

To make a silicone seal:
-run bead
-*GENTLY* torque (just enough to evenly distribute silicone between
mating surfaces)
-let it set overnight
-torque to final spec

You'll end up with a custom synthetic gasket.

BTW: I recommend high temp orange silicone over the blue stuff.

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, jordan rubin <nuttenschleuder_at_dml_y...>
wrote:
> 
>    BTW, Ill be damned if I will ever fix all of the
> leaks on that thing, im almost half tempted to RTV the
> auto pan seal to stop that beast from leaking.
> 
> AAAHHHH NOOO dont clog the Transmission filter with
> RTV, yeah I know.
> 
>    
> Anyway, that my thoughts and im stickin to it.
> 
> thanx
> 
> Jordan 11613 auto





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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:25:04 -0600
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Stainless Steel Illusion update

It's been nearly a month now since we received the books, and we've shipped
several hundred at this point. If you had an order placed, and have not
received it, please email me directly at "james (at) usadmc.com" - I
received an email from a client in France who had not yet received his copy,
and apparently it's been held up in customs there.

Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
15023 Eddie Drive
Humble, Texas 77396

281/441-2537 Voice
281/441-2813 Fax
800/USA-DMC1
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:41:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Stankiewicz <protodelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: carpet

her you go Ken:

"Hi guys,
This info is from a discussion on the DMC Forum list,
I thought there 
might be some people on this list also interested in
the information, 
I was enquiring about dyeing my carpets black to match
the black 
seats, trim and headliners I have, and Ron Wester came
up with this 
great source... a company in florida that makes carpet
sets for our 
cars in any color!
The company name is Hydro-E-Lectric in Florida. The
cost is about 
$359.00 but comes in different colors and is complete
with backing 
pad. Their phone number is #941-639-0437
Thanks again Ron,
Best wishes,
John Dore, Ireland, VIN 3810."




--- kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com wrote:
> Does anyone have the name or phone number of the
> place in I think Florida 
> that has the aftermarket DeLorean Carpets.
> 
> thanks
> 
> Ken
> 
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:49:48 -0500
From: MichaelRPack1_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: RE: Re: Leather Care (Delorean Destruction)


Great stuff.
I use it on everything leather.

Chek out their web page on the net.

www.leatherique.com

Michael

"v_davidj" <v-davidj_at_dml_microsoft.com> wrote:

>Hey Michael,
>
>What's in the brew?
>
>Thanks!
>Dave
>
>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, MichaelRPack1_at_dml_c... wrote:
>> 
>> By far, the best leather care products that I have ordered is 
>Leatherique. I belong to some other car clubs that get a huge 
>discount for Leatherique. I can offer this discount to all of you 
>DeLorean owners if you email me offline. The East Coast distributor 
>is a good friend of mine.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Michael Pack
>> 83 DMC 20069
>> 01 BMW 740iL
>> 02 BMW M3
>
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:04:19 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Replacing the solenoids?

In a message dated 11/26/03 11:22:37 AM Central Standard Time, 
hispanicangeleyes_at_dml_yahoo.com writes:

> Ok everyone.  Today (Wednesday) I'm going to get the computer governor out 
> of the car.  While everything is dissassembled and all, should I take out the 
> old solenoids as well?  I mean, while it's all apart and all, might as well 
> knock out 2 possible problem areas while the opportunity is available.  I 
> know without a doubt I'm going to have the C/G rebuilt, but how many of you 
> think I should just have the solenoids replaced as well?  I'm kind of curious as 
> to what everyone here may think about that.  I have no problem with it, but I 
> want to make sure I'm not making an overly-cautious move.  Please, once 
> again everyone give me your opinions.  Thank you everyone for your time, 
> attention, and suggestions.
> 
> Jeremiah
> Vin #03299

The solenoid is in a completely different place (INSIDE THE TRANSMISSION) 
than the computer governor, so nothing is actually going to be 'apart' to make it 
easier to change the solenoid.  seriously, replace the computer first, and 
THEN see what happens.  from what i have read on the list (i have a manual 
trans), the A/T is just as good as the manual save for the governor, and the 
solenoid is probably just fine.

sometimes it is good to replace parts while you are really in there, but you 
need to drop the pan and the valve body (or get good access to it) in order to 
change the solenoid.  that's way more work and incidental parts to replace 
compared to the governor.

Andy 


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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:33:17 -0600
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Are you a BIG DeLorean fan?

By popular demand, we are now stocking XXXL sizes in the DMC logo
sweatshirt, DMC logo black polo and the DMC "Staff" Grey T-shirt...

http://www.delorean.com/gift_ideass/sweater.asp

http://www.delorean.com/gift_ideass/polo.asp

http://www.delorean.com/gift_ideass/tee.asp

Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
15023 Eddie Drive
Humble, Texas 77396

281/441-2537 Voice
281/441-2813 Fax
800/USA-DMC1
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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:57:54 -0500
From: MichaelRPack1_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: DeLorean drive with NSX owners this weekend


Anyone coming to Maryland, DC or Virginia for Thanksgiving is invited to be my guest for our local chapter of the Acura NSX owners club. 

So far We have NSX's/M5's and an S2000 lined up, so if you'd like to invite a 
friend with a cool car (or a cool friend with a car), please do so.

We have an AWESOME drive planned, including parts of Skyline Drive, Blue 
Ridge Parkway, hi-speed Interstate and twisty uphill/downhill sections:

>From NO.VA.:    I-66 West to 29 South to Warrenton
>From MD (via Pt. of Rocks bridge)  15 South to 15/29 South to Warrenton.

At Warrenton, follow signs to 211 West (MD/VA people will meet in Warrenton 
at 10 am!!!!  - call Howard's cell and I'll locate an easy spot to meet.    
703.593.4273)

We'll take 211 West to Skyline Drive ($10 entry fee) and then proceed South, 
exiting at the Swift Run Gap Exit onto Rte. 33 West toward Elkton, VA.  Then 
we'll take 340 South to I-64 East and climb to the top of Afton Mountain.    
We'll meet Lud at the Afton motel restaurant at 12:30 for lunch and 
panoramic views.   ...and the obligatory photo op.

After lunch, we'll go South on the Blue Ridge Parkway, then head down the 
mountain on 60 West toward Buena Vista.   From there we'll hit I-81 North 
and then I-64 East heading back up Afton Mountain.    This time atop Afton, 
we'll take Skyline Drive NORTH until the first exit at Swift Run Gap.   
(from there Lud will likely depart).    We'll take 33 East back to 29 North 
and then head home.    I expect everyone to be back in the DC area by 
5:30-7pm, depending on where you live.

Bring:   cell phone,  2-way radio (and an extra if you have it).

Please CALL me if you're going to make this drive (I won't have access to 
email after Friday) 



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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:19:21 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Automatic shifting troubles

In a message dated 11/26/03 12:30:55 PM Central Standard Time, 
nuttenschleuder_at_dml_yahoo.com writes:

>   BTW, Ill be damned if I will ever fix all of the
> leaks on that thing, im almost half tempted to RTV the
> auto pan seal to stop that beast from leaking.
> 
> AAAHHHH NOOO dont clog the Transmission filter with
> RTV, yeah I know.
> 

Chrysler group uses an RTV silicone on the bottom of their 3.3L and 3.8L 
engines in minivans (mid 90's+).  i see hundreds of these vans a year and only a 
handful have leaking transmission pans.  it takes forever to get the old goop 
off the pan if you need to service it though.

Andy


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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:58:12 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>
Subject: Re: delorean christmas cards....

Don't go printing any more just yet. 

Actually I was selling them as a fund-raiser for the DML (they came 
with the operation from James). I still happen to have about 30 sets 
left. But NO envelopes, they are a wierd size (A4?) that I have to 
get from a specialty shop. If anyone's interested drop me a line. 
Better act fast, between me shipping them out and then you mailing 
them to people we're about out of time. 

I put them back up for sale every couple of years, at least as long 
as I have them, but I kind of forgot about it this year. 

Here's the info - no other link provided, this offer only good until 
Sunday November 30.

http://www.dmcnews.com/NONindexed/Merchandise/cardopen.html

Dave S

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, billsfanmd_at_dml_a... wrote:
> A few years back I bought a set of delorean christmas cards. I 
thought the artwork with Santa standing next to a DMC was very well 
done. My family and friends loved getting them too. When I bought 
them they mentioned they were down to their last few boxes. Just 
wondering if anyone had any interst in reproducing them or who made 
them? With the holidays coming up its a nice touch. ......
> 
> mike c 
> 2109




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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:33:49 -0500
From: Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman_at_dml_fuse.net>
Subject: Re: Has this ever happened to you, to anyone?

Everyday...but I live right down the street from my Dad who also has 
one.  (does that count?)

-Josh


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