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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1771
Date: Friday, November 28, 2003 5:20 AM

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There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: carpet
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

2. Happy Thanksgiving
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>

3. Re: Happy Thanksgiving
From: Glenn <green95gst_at_dml_earthlink.net>

4. Re: delorean christmas cards....
From: Louie Golden <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>

5. Re: Automatic shifting troubles
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>

6. Re: Replacing the solenoids?
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>

7. BTTF Car Props = Building Plans
From: "Robert Moseley" <videobob_at_dml_hotmail.com>

8. http://papertoys.com/delorean.htm
From: "jpaulkelman" <Paul.KELMAN_at_dml_total.com>

9. DMC
From: David Doglay <daviddoglay_at_dml_yahoo.co.uk>

10. Re: Has this ever happened to you, to anyone?
From: Mark Valuch <dmcvin6683_at_dml_wi.rr.com>

11. Re: Has this ever happened to you, to anyone?
From: kayoong_at_dml_aol.com

12. Re: Has this ever happened to you, to anyone?
From: Louie Golden <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>

13. rule of 20K poll
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:21:45 EST
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: carpet

In a message dated 11/26/2003 5:18:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
protodelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com writes:
John Dore, Ireland, VIN 3810."
Thanks

this list is great I actually got three places for carpet and samples from 
all three coming.

Its getting hard to find light grey carpets now since many are faded 
(almost like the asphalt at my shows LOL"

Anyway I refurb a lot of DeLoreans and carpets are the most expensive and 
least attractive part of the car in my opinion.

Hopefully these add a bit of class to the car 

Ken


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 01:29:06 -0000
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>
Subject: Happy Thanksgiving

Just wanted to say Happy Thanksgiving to all. 
If any of you are going to be working on cars over the Holiday I 
thought I would mention that since I had a big family reunion about a 
month ago, my wife and I are staying close to home this weekend. So 
if you need my help I will be around as always from 9am till 9pm 7 
days a week. What is that 12/7.
Have a good one.
John Hervey
www.specialtauto.com


  




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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:44:29 -0800
From: Glenn <green95gst_at_dml_earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving

And my it be a Happy Thanksgiving
It is great to hear that we have helpful and knowledgeable members in 
this group.  Lets hope that all our DMC's keep running for a long time.

Glenn

On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, at 05:29 PM, John Hervey wrote:

> Just wanted to say Happy Thanksgiving to all.
> If any of you are going to be working on cars over the Holiday I
> thought I would mention that since I had a big family reunion about a
> month ago, my wife and I are staying close to home this weekend. So
> if you need my help I will be around as always from 9am till 9pm 7
> days a week. What is that 12/7.
> Have a good one.
> John Hervey
> www.specialtauto.com




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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:13:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Louie Golden <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Re: delorean christmas cards....

I'd be willing to front some money to have them reprinted. I've got a neighbor friend who owns an Instyprints (it's a Kinkos equivalent)... so maybe I could even get a discount on getting them printed. If you look into the old webzines on the DMC news site- ftp://dmcnews.com/pub/zine003.pdf  it has a Mesa, AZ address for the cards. Maybe James Espey used to do them then? Unless there aren't any copyright issues, I guess someone could send me a used card, and I can see what I can do as far as getting them reprinted. I agree it'd be cool to have them again.

Louie Golden
VIN 5252 Charlotte, NC


--- billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com wrote:
A few years back I bought a set of delorean christmas cards. I thought the artwork with Santa standing next to a DMC was very well done. My family and friends loved getting them too. When I bought them they mentioned they were down to their last few boxes. Just wondering if anyone had any interst in reproducing them or who made them? With the holidays coming up its a nice touch. Although with 3 kiddies my wife tends to go with the photo christmas cards with their pics on them....

drive carefully...AAA says 36 million travlers on the road this week who are all potential targets for your DMC....

mike c 
2109

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:54:27 -0000
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Re: Automatic shifting troubles

Now wait a minute here - Preference is one thing but facts are 
another.

Having owned 2 5 speed Ds and put over 100,000 on then (combined) 
and now owning an automatic in which I have put over 40,000 miles, I 
think I can compare both in depth. First, for the first 100 yards a 
properly tuned auto is quicker than a 5 speed. The auto is great in 
traffic. Zipping around is much easier in an auto and the response 
time can be much shorter in timing maneuvers because there is no 
clutch-shift action to mess with. Highway driving in an auto though 
is not quite as enjoyable to me because, at 80-85 miles an hour, 
you're looking at 4,000 rpm. For me that is just too high for 
sustained driving on cruse. 3,000 to 3,400 rpm is better in my mind 
so, on cruse, I stay at 70-75. Third gear in an auto is 1:00 ratio 
while 4th gear in a 5 speed is 1.057 to give you a comparison and, 
there is the torque converter slippage which adds to the rpm some.

As for reliability, well that can be an issue. However, I believe 
there is enough intelligence and know-how out there that most of 
those issues are solved. We can fix the governors and the oils 
leaks. It constantly amazes me the know-how and persistence 
demonstrated on this forum. I have use that know-how and added my 
own thing as most of us like to do and I am quite confident in the 
reliability of the auto. BTW, mine does not leak.

Of course it always comes down to preference and the type of driving 
you do. If the auto had one more gear or maybe a lockup torque 
converter? Something to keep my mind busy with.

Harold McElraft - 3354





--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, jordan rubin <nuttenschleuder_at_dml_y...> 
wrote:
> I have to put my two cents in here because I too have
> been blessed/cursed with an automatic.
> 
> Flame away at will
> 
>    There werent many options available for me at the
> time of purchase considering that my car was in near
> perfect condition, with no major problems and no frame
> rust.  That being said, I have come to the conclusion
> that the only delorean folks who would really enjoy an
> automatic (best suited for them) would be.
> 
> 1.  People who cant drive stick, naturally
> 
> 2.  Daily driver folks who drive the belt parkway from
> staten island to brooklyn daily
> 
> 3.  Those occasional drivers who are so worried about
> driving the car that having an automatic is less to
> focus on while driving.
> 
> 
>     Those in the group may remember back in may that i
> was considering a transmission swapout for the 5 speed
> and was urged not to do it because of the volume of
> work required and modification to the frame.  That
> being said I could see no reason to destroy an
> original perfectly good car to swap out a working
> transmission.
> 
>     If I could find a delorean that was at the same
> quality as mine and a 5 speed id trade it tommorrow,
> because at the end of the day, even though it works,
> its an automatic, its less powerfull and less economic
> than the 5 speed, and quite frankly less fun to drive.
> Elvis ruined me when he threw me the keys to his 81 5
> speed 2 weeks ago at my house.
> 
> Speaking of Elvis, he rebuilds the AT gov and would be
> a good person to speak to if your having AT computer
> problems in Europe.  He had showed me his lab setup to
> test at fix these modules.
> 
>    I love owning and driving my delorean but no matter
> how good the car is, or how it looks, or engine
> condition etc.    It will always be inferior to a
> 5speed plain and simple.
> 
>    BTW, Ill be damned if I will ever fix all of the
> leaks on that thing, im almost half tempted to RTV the
> auto pan seal to stop that beast from leaking.
> 
> AAAHHHH NOOO dont clog the Transmission filter with
> RTV, yeah I know.
> 
>    
> Anyway, that my thoughts and im stickin to it.
> 
> thanx
> 
> Jordan 11613 auto
> 
>




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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:03:29 -0000
From: "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Re: Replacing the solenoids?

If they work they are most likely ok. You can test the resistence 
against a new one to confirm condition. They are not a known for a 
high failure rate. 

Harold McElraft - 3354


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Enid/Jeremiah 
<hispanicangeleyes_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> Ok everyone.  Today (Wednesday) I'm going to get the computer 
governor out of the car.  While everything is dissassembled and all, 
should I take out the old solenoids as well?  I mean, while it's all 
apart and all, might as well knock out 2 possible problem areas 
while the opportunity is available.  I know without a doubt I'm 
going to have the C/G rebuilt, but how many of you think I should 
just have the solenoids replaced as well?  I'm kind of curious as to 
what everyone here may think about that.  I have no problem with it, 
but I want to make sure I'm not making an overly-cautious move.  
Please, once again everyone give me your opinions.  Thank you 
everyone for your time, attention, and suggestions.
>  
> Jeremiah
> Vin #03299
> 
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 04:13:41 -0000
From: "Robert Moseley" <videobob_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: BTTF Car Props = Building Plans

I know that several people out there sell BTTF props, but is there 
anyone out there who has built thier own?
Does anyone have any building plans for Flux Capacitors, etc.?
Let me know.
- VB




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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:08:04 -0000
From: "jpaulkelman" <Paul.KELMAN_at_dml_total.com>
Subject: http://papertoys.com/delorean.htm

Check out the link 

http://papertoys.com/delorean.htm

(and associated web site http://papertoys.com)

Very interesting.

Paul Kelman. 




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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:19:13 +0000 (GMT)
From: David Doglay <daviddoglay_at_dml_yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: DMC

Does any1 no were i can buy delorean remote control cars in Northern Ireland or Britain?


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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:51:07 -0600
From: Mark Valuch <dmcvin6683_at_dml_wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Has this ever happened to you, to anyone?

What i usually get is somebody telling me they saw me last week or 
yesterday driving around even though my car was in the garage all week, 
funny how people think there is only one Delorean driving around town 
and it is always mine.

Mark


On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, at 12:48 PM, MichaelRPack1_at_dml_cs.com 
wrote:

> It's moments like yours that make this car such a joy to own.
>
> Happened to me leaving the office. I was in Columbia Maryland at the 
> intersection of Oakland Mills and Snowden River Parkway when at the 
> light we both opened our drivers gullwing, flashed our lights then 
> continued to drive through the intersection...it was like looking into 
> a mirror.
>
> Sincerly,
> Michael
>
> "slowlydownward1313" <slowly_downward_1313_at_dml_hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Interesting DeLorean occurrence:
>> While leaving a clients house, waiting for the front gate to open, I
>> saw between the metal gate a familiar shape cross in front of me,
>> driving on the street I was waiting to turn on to. When the gate
>> finally opened, curious, I sped up to try to catch a look at the car.
>>
>> When I got closer to the car, I quickly realized it was another
>> DeLorean! I pulled next to the other D and rolled down my window, and
>> so did the other owner. I asked him "Do you think this has ever
>> happened?" We had a nice but quick conversation about our cars,
>> yelling through our pathetic windows but, comically, we were both
>> totally flustered by the freak coincidence of 2 DeLoreans meeting up
>> with eachother on the street .
>>
>> Needless to say, It made my day.
>>
>> Has this ever happened to anyone on the list?
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:55:41 EST
From: kayoong_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Has this ever happened to you, to anyone?

Yes, I had a similar situation some years ago.   I was coming back from PJ 
Grady after getting some minor work done on my DeLorean.   While driving back 
into Manhattan and merging onto on the very busy Williamsburg Bridge, when I 
happen to see another DeLorean some cars ahead of me in the next lane.   I 
quickly drove up to the DeLorean and waved "Hi" to him and he I signaled me to pull 
over at the foot of the bridge on Delancy Street.   

We both had left our doors opened and talked for a little while.   During our 
conversation, many people driving by were either slowing down or stopped to 
look at our cars with the doors opened.   The on lookers were staring in 
amazement which almost caused several accidents.   Anyway, we decided to leave 
before we became part of a possible accident that we could have caused because of 
the curious on lookers that we were attracting.

Kayo Ong
#5508
Lic   9D NY

In a message dated 11/26/03 1:10:52 PM, slowly_downward_1313_at_dml_hotmail.com 
writes:


> Interesting DeLorean occurrence:
> While leaving a clients house, waiting for the front gate to open, I
> saw between the metal gate a familiar shape cross in front of me,
> driving on the street I was waiting to turn on to. When the gate
> finally opened, curious, I sped up to try to catch a look at the car.
> 
> When I got closer to the car, I quickly realized it was another
> DeLorean! I pulled next to the other D and rolled down my window, and
> so did the other owner. I asked him "Do you think this has ever
> happened?" We had a nice but quick conversation about our cars,
> yelling through our pathetic windows but, comically, we were both
> totally flustered by the freak coincidence of 2 DeLoreans meeting up
> with eachother on the street .
> 
> Needless to say, It made my day.
> 
> Has this ever happened to anyone on the list?
> 



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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:28:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Louie Golden <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Re: Has this ever happened to you, to anyone?

This doesn't really count, but I was followed home one afternoon by a guy in a Chevy Tahoe. When I finally got out of my car he explained he had followed me all the way across town because he wanted to see who else drove a DeLorean in town. It turns out he has an '83 with "dual color" interior, and lives in my neighborhood... no more than a half mile away from me. This is in my parents home town of Sanford, NC... it has a population of about 20,000 people... so I thought it was pretty cool there was another owner in such a small town. Darren Decker has a pretty similar story with how he met Bill Lane, a fellow DeLorean owner in Winston-Salem, NC. It's situations and stories like this that makes it fun to own one of these little cars :-).

Louie Golden
VIN 5252 Charlotte, NC

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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:37:11 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: rule of 20K poll

List,

I kind of forgot about my poll investigating the reality of the rule of $20K. 
 i will conclude it at the end of this month.  if you haven't voted yet, 
please go to the yahoogroups.com poll for DMCNEWS and vote accordingly.  the 
instructions are posted in the poll description.

i will then post results Dec. 1st.

Thanks!
Andy


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