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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1779
Date: Friday, December 05, 2003 7:23 AM

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There are 9 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Delorean auction
From: "fivetwofive" <CBL302_at_dml_msn.com>

2. Re: Delorean auction
From: "Jeff Chabotte" <webmaster_at_dml_88-mph.com>

3. Fuse #12
From: doctorDHD_at_dml_aol.com

4. Re: Console Switch For Fuse #12
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

5. 1:24 scale DeLorean Models
From: "haugrd" <haugrd_at_dml_yahoo.com>

6. 109266 Lower Ball Joints
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

7. Leather Seat Covers
From: Tom Watkins <dmctom_at_dml_earthlink.net>

8. Re: Re: Door Ajar light (was: Pulling #12 Fuse)
From: Jan van de Wouw <delorean_at_dml_home.nl>

9. Re: Leather Seat Covers
From: "James" <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 04:20:43 -0000
From: "fivetwofive" <CBL302_at_dml_msn.com>
Subject: Re: Delorean auction

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Mark Valuch <dmcvin6683_at_dml_w...> wrote:
> eBay 2446124004
> 
> Anybody know of this auction?
> 
> Mark
> 
Yes,that's my auction(sign off name 00570)

I have come to that milestone in my life,where it is time to 
part,with some of my past,and right now it happens to be all my 
Deloreans and parts,as I have sold my garage and will not have a 
place to put everything,(my home garage has more deloreans in it to)
so that is out of the question,also those go with the package.It is 
22yrs of Delorean collections(cars/parts/books/videos,Item(s)I 
developed/made for the Deloreans ect.NONE and I mean none have ever 
seen light(or rain)or outside since,the early mid 1980's(I have too 
MUCH respect for deloreans to do that)(park them outside unused to 
rot-----NEVER) 

I will be adding TONS of pics(right now there are 41,
(pics are on a link)but I will put something in the order of 100 or 
so,or as long as my digital camera will last.That is why I am running 
a pre-lude,so that if anyone wants to come down,and "take a look" 
just email me.(I cannot sell piece by piece,as I do not have the 
manpower)

I am/will be running a most honest auction,and the highest 
bidder gets all,I estimate enough DMC stuff that someone could easily 
start a Internet Delorean business,If parted piece by piece(I don't 
have the heart to do that)at the right prices there is well over 
$100,000  or more?? ,as most partsand cars are unmolested 
originals,by that I mean that wiring has never been played around 
with,fuse boxes are all unmelted,frames all are rot/rust 
free,interiors are sun damage free,dashes are all as new,rubber is 
supple,seats are virgin,undamaged,dashes are perfect,tires are 
original(some still with Belfast air,no less(remember I had these 
since the early eighties(and some of the tires are still untouched 
since they left the factory) 

I have kept most tires in a dark cool area,with zero sunlight.I gave one to a member on this list,and he 
was amazed,how perfect it was(has it on his car) I will answer any 
questions anyone wants to ask,as I do not want anyone to think,that I 
am going to "run some shill auction".This is a genuine collector 
auction,at a most reasonable price,and being a dmcnews member,since 
around 1997,I am not going anywhere(and at the same address since 
1980) 

And I one day WILL buy another Delorean,as it is hard to 
erase,22 years of your life,it is just my turn now, to hand over 
the "keys" to someone else,and let them enjoy,the cars I saved,and 
maybe bring some future joy,to some future generation.

Claude
00570
(maybe your car)         



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 23:22:32 -0500
From: "Jeff Chabotte" <webmaster_at_dml_88-mph.com>
Subject: Re: Delorean auction

Being from CT, i noticed the zip code, also CT. yeah, THEN i saw that it
does indeed say it's in Hartford. The only person i could think of that
would be in the area who has that amount of D items would be Claude
(vin570).

-Jeff Chabotte
Norwich, CT
-Webmaster, http://www.88-mph.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Valuch" <dmcvin6683_at_dml_wi.rr.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:23 AM
Subject: [DML] Delorean auction



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:58:11 EST
From: doctorDHD_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Fuse #12

Just another use for the blank switches on the center console.  Wire it up 
across a blown fuse inserted into the #12 "slot".  Don't forget to use an inline 
fuse to maintain the protection.  I have done this and....my  door ajar light 
comes on sometimes when the added switch is open. 

Dave and 6530


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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 16:12:20 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Re: Console Switch For Fuse #12

Why not simply insert into line from Fuse #12? Junction of purple
wires is under console, inches from blank switches. Could then keep
factory original fuse protection.

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, doctorDHD_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Just another use for the blank switches on the center console.  Wire
it up 
> across a blown fuse inserted into the #12 "slot".  Don't forget to
use an inline 
> fuse to maintain the protection.  I have done this and....my  door
ajar light 
> comes on sometimes when the added switch is open. 
> 
> Dave and 6530
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:25:34 -0000
From: "haugrd" <haugrd_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: 1:24 scale DeLorean Models

For those of you that collect DeLorean diecast models, you may now 
purchase the Welly 1:24 scale models in the DMC-12, BTTF I, BTTF II, 
and BTTF III configurations available in the DeLorean Owners 
Association new DeLorean-Model-Connection webstore located at:

www.deloreanmodels.com/

All models are in stock for immediate delivery before the holidays.

Happy Holidays to all DeLorean owners and enthusiasts around the 
world.

Ray Haug, Internet/Products Director
DeLorean Owners Association
(products at deloreanstore.com)





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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:16:32 -0600
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: 109266 Lower Ball Joints

New reproduction lower ball joints are now available from DeLorean Motor
Company (Texas). Note that these are NOT the cross-reference one that some
try to pass off. These are made to the original drawings, with the snap ring
and groove. The new lower ball joint also has a new lower price - $24.95.

Order online, call DMC at the numbers below or your favorite vendor to
order.

Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
15023 Eddie Drive
Humble, Texas 77396

281/441-2537 Voice
281/441-2813 Fax
800/USA-DMC1
http://www.delorean.com 




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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:37:19 -0500
From: Tom Watkins <dmctom_at_dml_earthlink.net>
Subject: Leather Seat Covers

List,

The following EBAY auction for full set of seat covers is underway.   I 
bought a set from these people and and VERY happy with the purchase. 
 They are fine upstanding folks who ship fast.  If you need covers grab 
these!!  They also have black ones available.  If your hesitant about 
the overseas shipping....don't be.  It was one of the smoothest 
transactions I have ever had.

I can't wait to get mine installed!!!!!  

Tom    #05732

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2446091545&category=30172 
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2446091545&category=30172>




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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 21:23:45 +0100
From: Jan van de Wouw <delorean_at_dml_home.nl>
Subject: Re: Re: Door Ajar light (was: Pulling #12 Fuse)

Here we go again...

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 06:03:41 -0000, Bill Robertson wrote:

> Actually pulling fuse #12 is my preferred method of disabling courtesy
> & door lights whenever doors will be open for more than a couple of
> minutes. Of course dash indicator doesn't illuminate. Didn't do it for
> other owners at Mid Atlantic, or anyone at MD tech sessions either.

I know, I DID state that I had experience with this, didn't I???

> Dash indicator can't illuminate without juice from somewhere...

Indicator is fed from fuse #5 and it was
never said the car was powered up or not.
Fuse #5 is hot with ignition on.

> (electricity itself is diode backwards through door lights)

Read this agian and again... and again... and yet again...
And still don't understand what you mean.
How can electricity be a diode??? If you mean that no power can flow
between two points at the same voltage you're right, but remember
(read again) that it was specifically stated that #12 is out!
So no power there!!!

> But Patrick explicitly stated indicator was responding to lever light:

If you take a good look at the wiring diagram which I know you have one,
and you understand what you are looking at, you can clearly see that the
indicator CAN light through the interior lights. It's simply in series
with ALL the door-lights AND the light you flip on...

But because there's 6 lights in the doors in parralel AND a non-lit
bulb has WAY less resistance, especially with higher wattage bulbs,
only the low-power indicator lights and the rest does not.
But is you pull them ALL the indicator will not light
because the series is interrupted...

> Lever lights ARE isolated from indicator by a diode.

No they are not; the diode by the indicator and the diodes under
the dash are in series, so current can flow there. And because of
lack of #12 fuse the diodes do NOT block, but are open to current.

> Even if they weren't, would be physically impossible to ground
> indicator through their individual grounds when flipped

Just admit it IS possible; it happens...

And to make sure you understand:
<http://members.home.nl/delorean/doorajar.gif>

The red line shows the path the current takes.

JAN van de Wouw

Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 21:12:50 -0000
From: "James" <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Re: Leather Seat Covers

I've told a few people who have called recently about our new seat 
covers, and feel that it' sonly fair to let everyone know so that 
they don't "overpay" for seat covers from somewhere else.

Earlier this year, as the supply of original seats began to run out, 
we decided to look into to having CORRECT reproductions made. As 
anyone can go to a local upholstery shop and get a set of seat covers 
made, we always avoided selling them unless they were the correct 
leather and grain of vinyl.

Bridge of Weir no longer offers the correct color/grain of the 
leather...unless you want to buy 100 hides. The ICI vinyl is also no 
longer manufactured in the correct grain and colors.

We have engaged a company in Spain to re-create the correct colors 
and grains of the leather, and also make a die to impress to proper 
grain into the vinyl. The first samples of the seat covers and the 
vinyl arrived a while back, and we're making the final adjustments 
now. I expect to have product available for sale in February.

These will be sold in sets, at least initially, four pieces per set 
(most people's screw-on rear panels are good) and are expected to 
come in at less than $600 for the SET. You can have them installed 
locally, and we may even be able to offer a video and tool so the 
brave can try to install the covers themselves.

The next question, which I will try to head off here, is what about 
the rest of the vinyl interior parts? They are evaluating and costing 
a die to make the "ripple" vinyl like on the sides of the console and 
knee pads. Depending on how that cost comes in, those may be coming 
along as well.

James Espey
DMC (Texas)
www.delorean.com

PS - If you subscribe to our company email newsletter - look for BIG 
announcement on Monday!!!



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