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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1783
Date: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 4:03 AM

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There are 14 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Door pull straps
From: PRC1216_at_dml_aol.com

2. Re: Door pull straps
From: Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman_at_dml_fuse.net>

3. Re: Houston's Door Struts
From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj_at_dml_yahoo.com>

4. RE: delorean with 8-track
From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>

5. Cold Start
From: "james" <dmc_12_2180_at_dml_msn.com>

6. HOLE
From: Mark Valuch <dmcvin6683_at_dml_wi.rr.com>

7. sandblasting
From: billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com

8. Re: Door pull straps
From: Jan van de Wouw <delorean_at_dml_home.nl>

9. Re: Cold Start
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

10. Where to check for water leaks into the car?
From: PRC1216_at_dml_aol.com

11. Re: Cold Start
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

12. Winter storage
From: Mark Valuch <dmcvin6683_at_dml_wi.rr.com>

13. Delorean on ebay
From: "C. C. Cameron Putsch" <putsch.1_at_dml_osu.edu>

14. Parts on Ebay
From: "Christopher Hawes" <chris_at_dml_hawes74.freeserve.co.uk>





Message: 1
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 17:46:10 EST
From: PRC1216_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Door pull straps

I would buy all the parts necessary to make it an armrest pullstrap if I were 
you.   It sounds like half the work is already done anyway.   The armrest 
straps make the car look much more "finished" in my opinion.   I actually have 
1880 and I took off my door handle pull straps and put them in the glove box.   
I prefer just to reach for the handles.   

Patrick


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 17:50:41 -0500
From: Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman_at_dml_fuse.net>
Subject: Re: Door pull straps

Hi Samuel!

Pretty cool to find another VIN close by.  I'm 5102.

Our cars were built during one of the two busiest months of production 
on the DeLorean.  October of 1981.  It is very likely that your car had 
the armrests replaced somewhere along the line.  Whether it was at a QA 
center, or by a previous owner later on is almost impossible to 
determine.  I can tell you that my car does not have an allotment for 
the built in strap, and ours were most likely built on the same day, or 
at least within a couple days of each other.  My car was shipped from 
the west coast to it's first owner in Texas, who I contacted a couple of 
years ago.  If you've got records that go back far enough, you may be 
able to talk to previous owners, and find out who did what and when.

Interesting discovery though,
Josh
VIN 5102
VIN 15964
VIN NUTSANDBOLTS


Samuel wrote:

>I noticed something interesting about my car and thought I would get 
>some feedback on it. My car is vin 5096. The door pullstraps moved from the handle to attached to the arm rest around vin 5993



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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:12:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Houston's Door Struts

Why not just call them and ask???

BTW: When using DMCH struts, make sure your door will
close properly with the new strut before slamming it
closed and bending/breaking the strut mount.

--- Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com> wrote:
> I recieved Houston's door struts today. It's the
> craziest thing... both ends face the same way.



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:38:28 -0500
From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>
Subject: RE: delorean with 8-track

It looks like a very early tape deck, which had gaping holes for the
cassette slot. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jordan rubin [mailto:nuttenschleuder_at_dml_yahoo.com]
> Subject: [DML] delorean with 8-track
> 
> am i confused here, or is there an 8 track in this delorean



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 15:43:58 -0000
From: "james" <dmc_12_2180_at_dml_msn.com>
Subject: Cold Start

I read the cold start advice given in the technical advice section in 
DMC news, and checking the Thermo-time switch didnt work, for me ,, 
what next?




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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:49:47 -0600
From: Mark Valuch <dmcvin6683_at_dml_wi.rr.com>
Subject: HOLE

what is this hole for?

Look in the photo album for the folder called "hole".

Mark

Come see all of my other Photo's at my Website.
http://photos.yahoo.com/snextime




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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 13:10:38 -0500
From: billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: sandblasting

After seeing a few of the coolant pipes on ebay that have been sandblasted I was wondering how much is involved to actually do this yourself? Is there a tool or sandblasting system you can buy retail to do this yourself? As part of our ongoing  restorations of these cars it would be nice to clean and sandblast parts as we need to make repairs...

Mike C



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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 19:55:25 +0100
From: Jan van de Wouw <delorean_at_dml_home.nl>
Subject: Re: Door pull straps

On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 13:57:32 -0500, Samuel wrote:

> I noticed something interesting about my car
> and thought I would get some feedback on it.
> 
> My car is vin 5096. The door pullstraps moved from the
> handle to attached to the arm rest around vin 5993

That's what the Millenium Concours Judging Handbook says at least!

[explanation snipped]
> What are the chances my car had pullstraps although the vin is
> too low? I'm starting to think mine may have sat around at a QA
> center or pulled from the production line for a period of time.

I'd say quite high actually... Mine is an October built 1981,
VIN# 05141 and also has the Pullstraps in the door.

But what's funny on mine is that BOTH of my doors have NEWER
build dates than the car; one is from November 3rd, the other 4th...

So I THINK Mine's been at a QAC too for some time, because as
far as I know, no new(er) doors or trimpanels have been fitted
since at least 15 years or so...

JAN van de Wouw

Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:19:50 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Cold Start

In a message dated 12/8/03 12:11:57 PM Central Standard Time, 
dmc_12_2180_at_dml_msn.com writes:
I read the cold start advice given in the technical advice section in 
DMC news, and checking the Thermo-time switch didnt work, for me ,, 
what next?
what do you mean by 'didn't work'?
does it fire at the proper temperature for the proper time?

please be more specific - this is an easy one if we know the problem.

Andy


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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 15:01:33 -0500
From: PRC1216_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Where to check for water leaks into the car?

Hey All.
I took my D on its first long trip over Thanksgiving (longest trip since I have owned it).  It rained for a full day on the car in the parking lot, and when I went out to check on it after 10 hours of constant drizzle, I reached and felt under the carpet where your feet go and it was SOAKED underneath.  This was on the passenger side and the driver's side.  I could see standing water next to the seats when I lifted the carpet up.  Frantic, I stole all the towels I could find and mopped the water out every 3 hours.  When I got home I used a garden hose and found that water was leaking where the old inertia switch used to be mounted behind the gas pedal and under the back window.  A lot of water also came in by the back bottom corner of the driver's door.  I caulked like crazy and think I have most of it patched up.  My car is SO MUCH QUIETER since I caulked the bottom of that rear window, the caulk must have been off for a long time.  Do any of you know of any other real problem spots to caulk in case I ever have my car out in the rain again?  

Patrick
1880


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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 00:33:28 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Cold Start

What exactly are your symptoms? Assuming you are trying to start the
car from a cold start and it starts normally when warm you should
check all the systems that are activated when the motor is cold. That
includes the vacuum advance system for the ignition and the cold start
valve. I would start with the cold start valve. Check and see if it
gets power when cold and the engine is cranking. It could just be that
you need a tune-up because you have worn spark plugs and bad ignition
wires.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "james" <dmc_12_2180_at_dml_m...> wrote:
> I read the cold start advice given in the technical advice section in 
> DMC news, and checking the Thermo-time switch didnt work, for me ,, 
> what next?




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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 19:22:49 -0600
From: Mark Valuch <dmcvin6683_at_dml_wi.rr.com>
Subject: Winter storage

I created a poll to see how many members store there car and how they 
store it.

This question was suggested by a fellow newsgroup member to me and i 
wanted to see how many members store their car if they actually store 
it for the winter months.

Please vote.

Mark


Come see all of my Photo's at my Website.
http://photos.yahoo.com/snextime




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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:15:43 -0500
From: "C. C. Cameron Putsch" <putsch.1_at_dml_osu.edu>
Subject: Delorean on ebay

Hello all. My car was just listed on Ebay. It is a very nice 1982 car with a grey int and 5 spd. Check it out if you are looking. You too Mr. Strickland. :P

Casey


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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:31:12 -0000
From: "Christopher Hawes" <chris_at_dml_hawes74.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Parts on Ebay

Hello all,



For those of you that would like to do some Christmas shopping, or maybe a
Christmas present to yourself why not check out the below,



*** DMC DeLorean VOLT/TEMP gauge *** DMC

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2447686723&ssPageName=ADME:B:LC:UK:1

105870 and costs $114.02 new.  (current bid 1.20)



*** DMC DeLorean TACHOMETER Assembly gauge *** DMC

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2447687765&ssPageName=ADME:B:LC:UK:1

105868 and costs $132.66 new.  (current bid 0.10)



*** DMC DeLorean upper speedo cable *** DMC

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2447689057&ssPageName=ADME:B:LC:UK:1

101604 and costs $25.45 new.  (starting bid 0.10)



*** DMC DeLorean cigar lighter *** DMC

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2447691032&ssPageName=ADME:B:LC:UK:1

In the parts manual the hazard bulb is part number SP10301 and costs $1.25
new.

The cigar lighter is 108288 $9.98

and the illuminating cigar lighter ring is 108501 $9.01 (including 2 of
these).

For ALL of the above (starting bid 0.10)



*** DMC DeLorean tail light boards *** DMC

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2447696395

(starting bid 5) this unused pair including bulbs would cost $109.50 from
the original vendor.



*** DMC DeLorean Louvre Rib *** DMC

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2447697025&ssPageName=ADME:B:LC:UK:1

Sunshade Louvre Stainless Rib Bracket Kit
This is the only sunshade support kit that installs without tools and
actually improves appearance. It even repairs centre ribs that are broken.

(starting bid 0.10)



*** DMC DeLorean console cover (grey) *** DMC

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2447723686&ssPageName=ADME:B:LC:UK:1

No longer available this now rare and hard to find part number 110523 cost
$95.60 when it was last available.

It has no tears or rips and even is fully formed near the prism shaped edge
just below where the cigar lighter goes.  99% of these have a chunk missing
due to poor fitting.

Good luck!

 (starting bid 10)

Please see my other auctions (24 including the 7 DMC items 'View other
seller's other items'<p>

http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=chris-von-bron&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50



Regards,



Chris Hawes

vin 5255








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