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To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1810
Date: Sunday, December 28, 2003 4:48 AM

There are 21 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Low temp on guage
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

2. Web page change
From: <dsontos_at_dml_verizon.net>

3. Re: New, Untitled Delorean in Dallas - 126 miles - black / auto
From: "spaceace3113" <spaceace3113_at_dml_yahoo.com>

4. DeLorean snowcat
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com

5. Interesting things.
From: "Ace Cgr" <ace_cgr_at_dml_hotmail.com>

6. DeLorean snow plows and such
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com

7. a piller
From: "simonsays10002003" <simonsays10002003_at_dml_yahoo.co.uk>

8. Re: engine cover paint
From: "simonsays10002003" <simonsays10002003_at_dml_yahoo.co.uk>

9. RE: DeLorean SPOILER
From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj_at_dml_yahoo.com>

10. Re: Volvo teams up to build what women want
From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj_at_dml_yahoo.com>

11. Sunstar Measurments
From: "Jeff Chabotte" <webmaster_at_dml_88-mph.com>

12. delorean keys
From: "geek123y" <service_at_dml_techno-concepts.com>

13. Key issues
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>

14. Re: DeLorean snow plows and such
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>

15. Re: Re: DeLorean SPOILER
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>

16. Alternator Modifications
From: "Aaron PETERSON" <mrroboto1_at_dml_msn.com>

17. Small Web Page about my DeLorean For Sale
From: "hodakaguy" <hodakaguy_at_dml_yahoo.com>

18. RE: DeLorean SPOILER
From: "Michael Paine" <mpaine_at_dml_tycomsystems.com>

19. Shift boot?
From: "at88mph" <at88mph_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

20. Re: DeLorean snow plows and such
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com

21. Re: Alternator Modifications
From: <dsontos_at_dml_verizon.net>





Message: 1
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 03:30:42 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Low temp on guage

It could be that the temp gauge just isn't that accurate. Get a
thermometer or an infra-red temp indicator and check the coolant. It
should get to around 200 degrees when the motor is warmed up. Check it
at the otterstadt switch with the infra-red indicator if you have it
or if you are checking the coolant in the header bottle with a
thermometer it should be around 160-180. Of course this will vary
depending on the ambient temperature. You may have a loose connection
on the temperature sending unit. Remove the wire and make sure it is
clean and grips the terminal on the sender tightly. The sender is
located on the front of the engine on the right hand cylinder head up
by the firewall. It is not good for the engine to run too cold. All
the clearances are set up for it to operate at around 200 degrees. The
temperature is also controled by the otterstadt switch. Some run too
hot and some run too cold. You may have to replace it. Also the fans
MUST cycle. They are not supposed to run continuosly except when the
A/C is on and even then they cycle on and off with the compressor. The
fans should not cycle because of the circuit breaker. If you have the
origional 35 AMP in then upgrade to the 40 AMP.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "mcookwwi" <mark_at_dml_w...> wrote:
> When I first purchased my D, it ran very hot, at or above the 220 
> mark. I replaced all the coolant lines, flushed the system, and 
> installed the constant bleed system. Then it started barely hitting 
> the first mark (100). I figured I may have a bad thermostat, so I 
> just replaced it, expecting the temp to reach above 100 now.
> 
> Well, it stays right at 100 when I'm driving OR idling now. Does 
> anyone have any idea why this engine runs so cool? I would feel more 
> comfortable if it were around 180.
> 
> #10901




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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:39:05 -0600
From: <dsontos_at_dml_verizon.net>
Subject: Web page change

I've just upgraded from dial-up internet service to DSL and now have a new web page. Its still getting the final touches so bear with me.The new web page is at:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7u0gn/index.html

please remove all references to my old site at

http://personal.picusnet.com/dsontos/index.html

Dave Sontos
vin 02573





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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 04:53:38 -0000
From: "spaceace3113" <spaceace3113_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: New, Untitled Delorean in Dallas - 126 miles - black / auto

Dont worry, Delorean1 is equally ludicrous. For that kind of $$$ you 
could buy #502 from PJ Grady!!




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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 01:22:17 EST
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: DeLorean snowcat

I can't believe after all of this time being part of the DeLorean community, 
I haven't heard anything about the LMC venture of John DeLorean.
    After reading the post about the snow groomers, I searched online myself, 
and learned about the DMC/LMC deal and such. You can even see the LMC logo as 
being a blatent copy of the DMC logo.

I have a lot more to learn now, about the snowcat part of the DeLorean 
history.

John
4275


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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 01:22:43 -0500
From: "Ace Cgr" <ace_cgr_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Interesting things.

I was just looking through my bookmarked DMC website collection to see wich 
links have become inactive and I found something interesting on the project 
vixen website;
http://www.projectvixen.com/index.htm
The Ebay search on the bottom I found interesting, especially some of the 
items.  There is a nice delrean clock, a DVD I couldn't find on amazon (i 
didn't look hard), and an interesting looking video called bikini planet. 
(looks pretty dumb.)
I figured I would send this to the list to let them know of another video 
with a delorean in it.
perhaps Tamir can get a clip for his website.

Don't have the car.
yet.

Chris G.R.

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 01:39:00 EST
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: DeLorean snow plows and such

Alright, well after a bit of reading, a rough story:
    John bought a snow grooming company, and then renamed it Logan 
Manufacturing Company, or LMC, after the city of the company's origin, Logan, Ohio. They 
made LMC a branch of DMC, and when DMC was going under, John sold LMC. LMC 
then went bankrupt around 2000. 

A short story, but I try my best.

John
4275


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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 13:57:30 -0000
From: "simonsays10002003" <simonsays10002003_at_dml_yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: a piller

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "supermattthehero" <supermatty_at_dml_p...> 
wrote:
> Is it necessary to use high-temp paint or some kind of plastic 
paint 
> to repaint the engine compartment cover?  Any tips?  
> 
> Also, I've been reading about the A-pillar trim panels...Mine are 
> badly warped.  Is it really necessary to remove the windshield to 
> repair/replace these?  I have an early 81 car, if it makes any 
> difference.  
> 
> Happy Holidays!
> 
> Matt
> #1604
     

hi regarding your a pillar trim, your car is an 81 the diference 
between the 81 and 82 is that your a trim is glued to the frame and 
the 82 is cliped {but not all} mine is an 82 the a pillar trim on 
mine is black plastic with gray leather glued to it.its the leather 
thats sandwidged between the glass{windsheald}and a pillar frame,but 
on an 81 car the leather is folded around the plastic part that its 
glued too so its not sandwidged beetween the windscreen even if it 
were like an 82 car you dont remove the windscrren to remove it as 
far as i know.to remove your a pillar trim {i havent got round to 
doing it yet but have looked in to it}you have to just take your time 
and pry it off,try not to stretch your trim peice to much as you can 
repair the warping later.i used to work in a body shop and to repair 
the plastic warping just heat the plastic up and bend and shrink the 
warping out{this type of plastic has an exellent memory so you should 
find it easy to work with
                      thanks simon ps let me know how you get on as i 
have yet to do it




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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 14:10:47 -0000
From: "simonsays10002003" <simonsays10002003_at_dml_yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: engine cover paint

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "supermattthehero" <supermatty_at_dml_p...> 
wrote:
> Is it necessary to use high-temp paint or some kind of plastic 
paint 
> to repaint the engine compartment cover?  Any tips?  
> 
> Also, I've been reading about the A-pillar trim panels...Mine are 
> badly warped.  Is it really necessary to remove the windshield to 
> repair/replace these?  I have an early 81 car, if it makes any 
> difference.  
> 
> Happy Holidays!
> 
> Matt
> #1604
to paint your cover when painting any plastic YOU HAVE TO USE AN ETCH 
PRIMER FOR PLASTIC VERY IMPORTANT.first of all you go over your panel 
with the gray scotch brite pad or P800 sand paper{p800 if in europe}
{diferent p rating in usa}{remember remove all loose old paint then 
just etch the panel with your etch primer{single pack} once etched 
you normaly have to top coat within an hour{depending on make of etch 
primer}bacause left too long and the top coat will eventuly peal and 
crack off}same if dont use any etch primer at all!.So once etch 
primed you are ready to top coat with colour i would use two pack but 
you have to have speicai breathing kit{it has isosionide in it}if you 
dont have the kit you will use a single pack paint its easyer to aply 
but not as hard wearing.if you have any problems feel free to email me




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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 06:14:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: DeLorean SPOILER

Yes, that is 06068.. This car came with the spoiler,
so I have no idea where this particular one came from.

--- Kevin Abato <delorean_at_dml_abato.net> wrote:
> Here is a picture of Mark Levy's Delorean with a
> spoiler on the back.
>
http://www.deloreanmidatlantic.com/scrapbook/engtown/pages/mark1.htm
> 
>

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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 06:18:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Volvo teams up to build what women want

Funny, I got a request from a engineer _at_dml_ volvo a few
years ago to explain how the DMC doors work. 
Interesting....


--- khyron_21502 <khyron_21502_at_dml_yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> "silver, sporty coupe with gull-wing doors"
> 
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 13:21:18 -0500
From: "Jeff Chabotte" <webmaster_at_dml_88-mph.com>
Subject: Sunstar Measurments

List,

I was wondering if anyone out there with a good set of calipers or micometers could measure the actual wheelbase and front/rear track widths (outside tire width especially) on the Delorean models.

Much Appreciated,

-Jeff Chabotte
Norwich, CT
Webmaster http://www.88-mph.com

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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 18:38:11 -0000
From: "geek123y" <service_at_dml_techno-concepts.com>
Subject: delorean keys

I went to my local locksmith and match the deloran keys with 
Rangrover keys the blanks are $3.00 each and they work fine 

Ken 
#02700




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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 18:58:38 -0000
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Key issues

Ken Creason please check your email. I have a key problem with my 
DeLorean you may be able to help me with.

Thanks,

Rich A.
#5335




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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:19:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: DeLorean snow plows and such

Logan, Ohio ? ? ? Try Logan, Utah! ! !

 
--- BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com wrote:
> Alright, well after a bit of reading, a rough story:
>     John bought a snow grooming company, and then
> renamed it Logan 
> Manufacturing Company, or LMC, after the city of the
> company's origin, Logan, Ohio. They 
> made LMC a branch of DMC, and when DMC was going
> under, John sold LMC. LMC 
> then went bankrupt around 2000. 
> 
> A short story, but I try my best.
> 
> John
> 4275
> 
> 
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:45:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: DeLorean SPOILER

The most commonly used spoiler for the DeLorean comes
from Pontiac Firebirds/Chevy Corvettes in the mid/late
80's.  The fit perfectly, line up well so as to not
block much rear view and they also clear the antenna.

You should (must) use heavier struts and even have
some sort of locking device to avoid a hard bang on
the head while working in the engine compartment.

BTW, this is the same series of cars that contributes
the third brake light used on many of our cars.

Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
--- Ryan <boy1der18_at_dml_aol.com> wrote:
> Take a look at the spoiler from a 94-99 Ford
> Mustang.  It fits 
> perfectly and even clears the power ant.  You can
> see it on my 
> website:  www.deloreanautomotive.com  Let me know if
> you want any 
> other pics of it.
> 
> Ryan
> 
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 14:01:40 -0600
From: "Aaron PETERSON" <mrroboto1_at_dml_msn.com>
Subject: Alternator Modifications

This message is for those DeLorean Owners that have the aftermarket Cadillac alternators in their car.

Me alternator recently went the way of the dodo bird. Rather than replacing it with the 150 amp brute, I went the more practical route of purchasing the Delco alternator. What I was wondering is what modifying was done, and how it was done to the exisiting wires to fit into the Cadillac alternator 2 pronged plug. Thanks for your help.

Aaron P.
VIN 7126


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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 20:57:16 -0000
From: "hodakaguy" <hodakaguy_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Small Web Page about my DeLorean For Sale

You can see it at: http://www.geocities.com/dawniellec/DeLorean.html

Feel free to e-mail me or call with any questions.  Thanks, Hodaka Guy




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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 18:18:42 EST (-0500)
From: "Michael Paine" <mpaine_at_dml_tycomsystems.com>
Subject: RE: DeLorean SPOILER

hey there brother...

Michael Paine
vin 6067

> Yes, that is 06068.. This car came with the spoiler,
> so I have no idea where this particular one came from.
> 
> --- Kevin Abato <delorean_at_dml_abato.net> wrote:
> > Here is a picture of Mark Levy's Delorean with a
> > spoiler on the back.
> >
> http://www.deloreanmidatlantic.com/scrapbook/engtown/pages/mark1.htm
> > 
> >
> 
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 18:58:37 -0600
From: "at88mph" <at88mph_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Shift boot?

Since I finished my 915 tranny swap, I'm now in need of a shift boot.  I
know they're only $80 from the DMC vendors but I was wondering if anyone had
a used one they'd want to part with.  The condition isn't really important.
The reason why is I'm not sure exactly how it'll work with my transmission
so I don't wana drop $80 for something that may not work for me.  If anyone
has one, please feel free to email me directly.

Also, is there any difference in the auto and manual consoles where the boot
would mate?  Mine was an automatic.

Thanks in advance,

Duke




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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 22:08:49 EST
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: DeLorean snow plows and such

Well, living in Minnesota, its really the same state to me, even though they 
are a good distance apart.


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Message: 21
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 21:56:13 -0600
From: <dsontos_at_dml_verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Alternator Modifications

I have that conversion information on my web site. Go to:
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7u0gn/index.html
and click on "Alternator"
Dave Sontos
vin 02573
> 
> From: "Aaron PETERSON" <mrroboto1_at_dml_msn.com>
> Date: 2003/12/27 Sat PM 02:01:40 CST
> To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [DML] Alternator Modifications
> 
> This message is for those DeLorean Owners that have the aftermarket Cadillac alternators in their car.
> 
> Me alternator recently went the way of the dodo bird. Rather than replacing it with the 150 amp brute, I went the more practical route of purchasing the Delco alternator. What I was wondering is what modifying was done, and how it was done to the exisiting wires to fit into the Cadillac alternator 2 pronged plug. Thanks for your help.






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