From: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1812
Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 5:10 AM

There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Howdy all
From: DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683_at_dml_wi.rr.com>

2. RE: DMC Totaled - Need Insurance Value Help
From: "Video Bob" <videobob_at_dml_hotmail.com>

3. Re: The Great DeLorean Key Disaster
From: DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683_at_dml_wi.rr.com>

4. Re: Howdy all
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

5. RE: The Great DeLorean Key Disaster
From: "Scott McMullan" <mcmullan_at_dml_netaxs.com>

6. Re: DMC Totaled - Need Insurance Value Help
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

7. Small Web Page about my DeLorean For Sale UPDATED NEW LINK!
From: "hodakaguy" <hodakaguy_at_dml_yahoo.com>

8. car smells like antifreeze
From: "Scott McMullan" <mcmullan_at_dml_netaxs.com>

9. Re: Howdy all
From: "Jerry Harry" <jlharry_at_dml_mcloudteleco.com>

10. RE: The Great DeLorean Key Disaster
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>

11. Clutch Fluid
From: "Palatinus, Joe" <jopalatinus_at_dml_davidson.edu>

12. Re: The Great DeLorean Key Disaster
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

13. RE: Howdy all
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>





Message: 1
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 20:06:37 -0600
From: DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683_at_dml_wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Howdy all

Welcome to the Newsgroup Cain,
I am glad you decided to try out the DML newsgroup. I am sure you will 
find a few people near you.

See you back on Tamir's Forum later.

Mark

Come see all of my Photo's at my Website.
http://photos.yahoo.com/snextime




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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 20:17:35 -0600
From: "Video Bob" <videobob_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: DMC Totaled - Need Insurance Value Help

Shoulda - woulda - coulda.

When it comes to dealing with insurance adjusters, buy your own Vaseline 
before you meet them.

If you want to know how to avoid this, don't buy regular liability or full 
coverage for a car like
this. You need straight up stated value insurance.
Meaining, if you want $20,000 of rhte car you need to get that much 
insurance.
It needs to be non-depreciative.
That's how MY insurance is, $80 per month with State Farm.

As for your deal, try calling Houston - thier prices are pretty high.
I am sure the value of the parts could be verified from them!
...or call Delorean-One, according to them your car is worth $60,000
HA HA!

- Videobob
VIN# 5278


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 20:36:31 -0600
From: DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683_at_dml_wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: The Great DeLorean Key Disaster

I went to a local hardware store and got my X29 key cut, i didnt even 
tell them what it was for. The guy thought it was for a DMC conversion 
custom van, they are made here in Wisconsin.

Mark


On Sunday, December 28, 2003, at 06:24 PM, cruznmd wrote:

> Once again, Ken Creason has pulled my chestnuts from the fire and is
> cutting and mailing me keys to my car. (by code)
>
> I'll ask this question to everyone:
>
> Has anyone had success getting copies made at their local hardware
> store by using original keys or does everyone get theirs cut by code?
> I'm no locksmith but to me, this is just a plain, Ilco X29 blank key,
> also used in Volvos(?)
>
> BEFORE I lost my key, I spent 3 weeks bouncing around the local
> stores (Home Despot, Lower than Lowe's, and No Value) Are the people
> in my area just retarded or are these keys special somehow?
>
> I'm not stupid. I knew I was tempting fate by running around with one
> key, but no one could operate their little computerized key cutters!
> I gave them my blanks, I let them choose their own blanks, and
> nothing! Granted, the machine operators were pimple-faced brats who
> can't even -spell- DeLorean, let alone cut a key for one. I wish
> someone around here used the old manual trace cutters.
>
> I have a DMC repro key from Houston that I want to cut. It just seems
> silly to mail it around but if that's the way it has to be...(now I
> find out they could have cut it for me. Duh.)
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Rich
> #5335



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 03:33:57 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Howdy all

Welcome to our little corner of the world of Deloreans. Go to
dmcnews.com and click on Owner's Directory. After you register you
will be given a password to the directory and can then find owners
nearby. Once you find them they will introduce you to a local club if
there is one in your area or you may try to start one up. You might be
interested in the upcomming show in Pigeon Forge, Tennasee this
summer. The link for the webpage for the show is deloreancarshow.com.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "wayofcain" <wayofcain_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> I just discovered this group last night. I own vin 002835. It's 
> nothing special, just your average Delorean.
> 
> I was wondering if there are any other owners on here in my vicinity? 
> 
> I am in Springfield, MO. I have made a few friends on other Delorean 
> forums but unfortunately no one is near me.
> 
> Thanks,
> Cain 




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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 22:44:38 -0500
From: "Scott McMullan" <mcmullan_at_dml_netaxs.com>
Subject: RE: The Great DeLorean Key Disaster


> Has anyone had success getting copies made at their local hardware
> store by using original keys or does everyone get theirs cut by code?

I've had zero success finding a local hardware store or superstore that
carries the X29/VO73 key blank.
However, my favorite local locksmith stocks the blank, and has made
perfectly functioning copies of the one key I got with my car, and perfect
2nd generation copies from the first one he cut for me.  Good thing, since I
don't have the code for my keys (the VIN numbers in my doors don't match my
car, or each other, so I don't trust the key codes I see there).

I highly recommend you go to a small local locksmith for these keys.  YMMV,
but mine charged under $4 per key total.




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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 03:49:34 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: DMC Totaled - Need Insurance Value Help

Your best source of help in documenting the condition and value of
your car will be a Delorean vender. Especially the one that either did
the service work or supplied the parts. All the venders keep records
so the one nearest you should be able to help. DMC Houston is the best
place if none of the other venders is familiar with the car. You might
suggest to the insurance appraiser that he call them directly to get
what ever information he needs to accurately calculate the value of
the vehicle at the time of the accident. Even a "totaled" Delorean has
some residual value. If you work with Houston they might figure a way
to take your old car and help you with your insurance company to get
you another in similar condition. Of course a lot depends on the type
of insurance you had and the conditions like deductable, towing,
storage, replacement, etc. I am glad to hear that at least you were
not seriously hurt in what sounds like a severe accident. It would be
nice if you could post some post-accident pictures. If you had classic
insurance it is usually easier to settle because you have an "agreed
upon value" so once it is determined to be a total loss there is no
argument as to value.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, BePositive2000_at_dml_Y... wrote:
> Hi, D Owners,
> 
> I am in desperate need of your help in establishing a pre-accident
> fair value and salvage value for my DeLorean.
> 





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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 03:51:02 -0000
From: "hodakaguy" <hodakaguy_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Small Web Page about my DeLorean For Sale UPDATED NEW LINK!

The original link that I posted on my DeLorean for sale is not 
working, I moved the web page to:
http://webpages.charter.net/hodakaguy/
Feel free to e-mail or call with any questions.  Thanks, Hodaka Guy 
(Tom Clouse)




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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 22:49:07 -0500
From: "Scott McMullan" <mcmullan_at_dml_netaxs.com>
Subject: car smells like antifreeze


I recently noticed that every time I drive my D, it smells like antifreeze
when I get out... and the oder has been getting stronger.

I have found no visible evidence of the problem... no drips show under the
car, and the hoses that are immediately visible from the top of the engine
compartment look and feel OK.  Up close to the engine, it's very hard to
localize the smell.

Anyone have any suggestions as to where to look first?




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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 11:59:23 -0600
From: "Jerry Harry" <jlharry_at_dml_mcloudteleco.com>
Subject: Re: Howdy all

Vin 4890 is in Oklahoma City.
Jerry
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "wayofcain" <wayofcain_at_dml_yahoo.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 4:12 PM
Subject: [DML] Howdy all


> I just discovered this group last night. I own vin 002835. It's
> nothing special, just your average Delorean.
>
> I was wondering if there are any other owners on here in my vicinity?
>
> I am in Springfield, MO. I have made a few friends on other Delorean
> forums but unfortunately no one is near me.
>
> Thanks,
> Cain



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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 21:09:05 -0800
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>
Subject: RE: The Great DeLorean Key Disaster

Rich, I have had 25+ keys cut by a locksmith, not Home Depot and the likes
with no problem. X29 was the blank I use.
John Hervey
www.specialTauto.com
Delorean parts


-----Original Message-----
From: cruznmd [mailto:racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 4:25 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] The Great DeLorean Key Disaster


Once again, Ken Creason has pulled my chestnuts from the fire and is
cutting and mailing me keys to my car. (by code)

I'll ask this question to everyone:

Has anyone had success getting copies made at their local hardware
store by using original keys or does everyone get theirs cut by code?
I'm no locksmith but to me, this is just a plain, Ilco X29 blank key,
also used in Volvos(?)

BEFORE I lost my key, I spent 3 weeks bouncing around the local
stores (Home Despot, Lower than Lowe's, and No Value) Are the people
in my area just retarded or are these keys special somehow?

I'm not stupid. I knew I was tempting fate by running around with one
key, but no one could operate their little computerized key cutters!
I gave them my blanks, I let them choose their own blanks, and
nothing! Granted, the machine operators were pimple-faced brats who
can't even -spell- DeLorean, let alone cut a key for one. I wish
someone around here used the old manual trace cutters.

I have a DMC repro key from Houston that I want to cut. It just seems
silly to mail it around but if that's the way it has to be...(now I
find out they could have cut it for me. Duh.)

Thanks in advance,

Rich
#5335



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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 03:16:32 -0500
From: "Palatinus, Joe" <jopalatinus_at_dml_davidson.edu>
Subject: Clutch Fluid

Hello List,
2 years ago I replaced both my master and slave cylinders with new ones from DMC houston.  About 6 months ago I noticed my master cyliner leaking by my foot, and the clutch fluid decreasing.  I purchased a new master cylinder from grady, and a new slave cyliner from specialtauto, so i would have them on hand and waited until christmas break (now) to change cylinders.  I just changed the slave cylinder, and started on my master cylinder, I noticed the fluid in the master cylinder resivoir has turnned to a black jelly.  There is quite literally 1 inch  of just black thick gel mush in the resivior.  I had changed fluid when I changed cylinders previously and used valvoline synpower (DOT 4).  Was this the cause of my premature failure?  Had I waited too long to change the fluid (2 years)?  I have the SS braided clutch line, and a fuel grade line that runs from the resivoir to the master cylinder, so I would not suspect contamination from the hoses.  I went and bought 2 bottles of valvolineABS (exceeds DOT 3 and DOT 4 standards) fluid, but I am not sure I want that fluid in my clutch system now.  Do other people use this fluid for their clutch system?
Thanks
Joe P.
VIN 17167 6808




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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 13:30:03 +0000
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: The Great DeLorean Key Disaster

I live in a small town in south-east England. Two years ago my new 
DeLorean arrives from the US and one of the first investments I made was 
in a set (early style) of key blanks from Grady. I took the original 
keys, one of which had a crack in it, down to the local family run DIY 
shop. He had one of the trace cutters you mention. My copy is still 
working fine, and I keep the original in case of emergencies and in case 
of needing to cut another copy. You should never use a copy to make a copy.

Best Wishes

Martin

cruznmd wrote:

>I wish 
>someone around here used the old manual trace cutters.
>  
>





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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 21:12:22 -0800
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>
Subject: RE: Howdy all

Welcome Cain, John Hervey in Dallas. Jump in the water is fine.
www.specialTauto.com




-----Original Message-----
From: wayofcain [mailto:wayofcain_at_dml_yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 2:12 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Howdy all


I just discovered this group last night. I own vin 002835. It's
nothing special, just your average Delorean.

I was wondering if there are any other owners on here in my vicinity?

I am in Springfield, MO. I have made a few friends on other Delorean
forums but unfortunately no one is near me.

Thanks,
Cain






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