From: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1841
Date: Monday, January 19, 2004 12:44 PM

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Supercharger help
From: DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683_at_dml_wi.rr.com>

2. RE: Brake Master Cylinder
From: "jdub" <doki_pen_at_dml_yahoo.com>

3. Re: DMC Body Panel Dies
From: "Donald L. Ekhoff" <ekhoff_at_dml_seagullsolutions.net>

4. Re: THREE SUBJETS RUST SPOTS AND SHIFTER BOOT AND MANUAL SHIFTER FIXED
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

5. New Sound Progress! The noise is gone.
From: Enid/Jeremiah <hispanicangeleyes_at_dml_yahoo.com>

6. Re: 2 SUBJECTS: TRANSMISSION & CAR INSURANCE
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

7. Re: Supercharger help
From: "Bruce Benson" <delornut_at_dml_peoplepc.com>

8. Delorean on video game website
From: "Alex Khavich" <prof_khavo_at_dml_hotmail.com>

9. Re: THREE SUBJETS RUST SPOTS AND SHIFTER BOOT AND MANUAL SHIFTER FIXED
From: "supermattthehero" <supermatty_at_dml_psu.edu>

10. The Latest Issue of DW from DOA
From: "dcsj4465" <dcsj_at_dml_excite.com>

11. Re: Brake Master Cylinder
From: "deloreanchuck" <chuckkay_at_dml_comcast.net>

12. mileage
From: "darrendiver" <darrendiver_at_dml_yahoo.com>

13. interia panels
From: "westleymills2003" <westleymills2003_at_dml_yahoo.co.uk>

14. Re: 2 SUBJECTS: TRANSMISSION & CAR INSURANCE
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>

15. Re: interia panels
From: Samuel <samuel_yahoo_at_dml_lightspeed.cx>

16. Re: interia panels
From: Samuel <samuel_yahoo_at_dml_lightspeed.cx>

17. Broken Power Mirror Switch for sale
From: PRC1216_at_dml_aol.com

18. Re: Supercharger help
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

19. DELOREAN FIXED (MY STORY) RE:TRANSMISSION AND CAR INSURANCE
From: John Podlewski <john_podlewski_at_dml_yahoo.com>

20. Re: The Latest Issue of DW from DOA
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

21. PJ Grady steering sale....
From: billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com

22. DeLorean Ski Rack Anyone?
From: PRC1216_at_dml_aol.com

23. Re: mileage
From: Louie Golden <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>

24. Re: The Latest Issue of DW from DOA
From: Louie Golden <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>

25. Recovering seats
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:00:08 -0600
From: DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683_at_dml_wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Supercharger help

 From what i heard on the PRV engine's limits you need to look at a 
different engine if you intend on running this type of boost and fuel 
you will blow that PRV shy high.

Mark


On Saturday, January 17, 2004, at 06:51 PM, mcookwwi wrote:

> I am beginning planning for my install of the vortech supercharger I
> purchased.
>
> A few questions I have that may save me some time and mistakes:



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 22:22:35 -0800
From: "jdub" <doki_pen_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Brake Master Cylinder

Just trying to explore my options.  It turns out that the check valves had
rusted to the seats in the master cylinder.  I cleaned all the rust out and
now it works fine.  The rubber was in surprisingly good condition as well.

Thanks to everyone for your responses, I appreciate it greatly.  You have no
idea how much your tech papers and archives have helped me out.  :) Thank
you...

Jon
#3215

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Lane [mailto:blane_at_dml_triad.rr.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 9:10 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] Brake Master Cylinder


Jon,

Why would you be stuck with buying one from one of the vendors?  At least,
you'll know you're getting the right part!

Bill Lane
#3635




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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 06:37:11 -0800
From: "Donald L. Ekhoff" <ekhoff_at_dml_seagullsolutions.net>
Subject: Re: DMC Body Panel Dies

Dear Bob,

Is it not also true that the dies were siezed, "sold" and sunk as 
"weights" for a British Government funded boondoggle involving setting 
nets around sewage outlets? The idea was to keep the preditors out so 
the good fish could be caught easily. Problem is the preditors easily 
found their way in and soon outnumbered the catch. Another good use for 
valuable tax dollars.

I suspect there were Government operatives/agendas in this as it all 
happened much too quickly and vengefully. If all they wanted were 
weights, rocks with eyeloops fitted were all too available. This was a 
targeded 'ironic' disposal of the dies and not the kind of thing a 
thoughtful liquidator would have done with one of the most valuable 
assets of the DMC operation. Knowing the Irish were behind what might 
have been a successful operation, sinking the dies was the surest way to 
eliminate the chance of a "comeback". "Pioneers" often take the arrows 
and a reorganization might have been possible to save the DeLorean 
effort. Without the dies, it was a whole lot harder.

Don Ekhoff
6543

Bob Brandys wrote:

>Dear GC,
>
>According to John Delorean, He sent his people to Ireland to buy dies. 
> However, "someone" repeated shot at them and in fear for their lives 
>they left the country.
>



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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:42:27 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: THREE SUBJETS RUST SPOTS AND SHIFTER BOOT AND MANUAL SHIFTER FIXED

In a message dated 1/17/04 2:26:19 PM Central Standard Time, 
john_podlewski_at_dml_yahoo.com writes:
Also does any know where I can get my shifter boot redone(just the leather)?  
I can't remember but I think someone on the list could do it for $55, a few 
weeks ago.
>>>>>>>

For $78, Grady sells a brand new boot with a stainless steel frame.  you 
could take chances on a $55 one, or you could order Grady's tomorrow and KNOW it 
is the best.

Andy


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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:57:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Enid/Jeremiah <hispanicangeleyes_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: New Sound Progress! The noise is gone.

I can give you a better idea now.  Here's a great story for all of you to enjoy.  Yesterday I was running on fumes....
I work (in my 2 weeks notice now) at the front desk for a hotel here in Pensacola.  Well, we had an airline crew who had left half an hour ago (say it was around 5:30pm).  One of the crew members had forgotten their airline badge.  Without that badge, their flight could not leave.  We tried getting the shuttle driver to take it to the airport, but there was no driver.  So me and another coworker had to make a decision as to who was going to take the badge to the airport.  I said I would go because it would be much easier for them to spot the DeLorean before they spotted his 94 Camry.  So off I go to the airport.  As I'm approachinig about 1 mile away, I go to hit the gas: "sputter sputter cough vra-vra-vra-sput vroom sput" goes my car.  I had to park in the middle of the road and then she began to idle normally again.  Having just had the transmission rebuilt, I was a little edgy about this.  I rejoin traffic and the car drives normally.  As traffic began to brake, so did I, and then
 traffic began to accelerate, so I tried to accelerate with traffic and the same symptoms kicked in - the car nearly died in the middle of the road.
To Best Buy's parking lot I made it.  I was about 1 mile away from the airport.  I go into Best Buy looking for the only other DeLorean owner here in town: Dmc93n99.  A store representative tells me he's gone to lunch (7:00pm)....  I am 1 mile from the airport with a badge that must be delivered or the flight does NOT takeoff, my DeLorean will not drive now, and the one person that could help me was not at work...
These are the times you stop and breathe for a minute, look around, get a grip on the situation and make the best of things at hand.  I said a quick prayer to my Lord and just basically begged from my heart for Him to help me.  After that, I began to think to myself "Well, maybe...just maybe the DeLorean is out of gas".  So off I begin to walk from Best Buy to go through the main shopping mall (they are connected together), out their parking lot, down the street to a gas station to purchase a 1 gallon gas container and fill it up with 91 Mid-premium.  As I begin my walk before I even reach the shopping mall, I see Dmc83n99 headed my way.  I couldn't believe it; I was floored of all the times to see him right then and there.  After saying outloud "My savior!" out of pure joy; I describe to him the symptoms from being on the road to having the car in the parking lot.  We go to start the car "VROOMMM-spdgdgjdsjflsslan clunk!" it goes.  He says in the most nonchalant way I think I've
 ever heard him say, "Dude, you're out of gas".  So I describe to him my scenario, and he was very understanding when I asked him "Could you do me a favor?".  He says "What's that?" and in my most sarcastically demanding way, I put out my hand and say "Keys!".  He was very gracious and lent me his car (Camaro).  He asked me, "You ever driven a Camaro?" "No."  He looks at me, "Way more power then you're used to, dude".  "Don't worry, I'll take it easy on it, man".
So out I walk to his Camaro.  Now keep in mind, this guy works as 2nd in command (I've inferred) of all of this Best Buy store.  This guy has all SORTS of goodies on this car.  Buttons, switches, multiflashers - you name it, it's somewhere on this car.  I have never driven a Camaro, and this was a newer car on top of that.  So I get the alarm deactivated, climb in.  Place key in the ignition, start it up.  A "VRUM" kicks in..not VROOM, VRUM.  Oh man, it was awesome.  I put it in reverse and just barely tap the accelerator. "RRRRRRRRRRTTTTT!!!!" go the tires!  I put it in drive and just ride with it.  Off to the airport I go, give that person their badge at LAST, and back I go to a gas station for a red canister and fuel...
So I get to a "Citgo/Tom Thumb", one of those big gas stations with like -12 pumps or so.  I get a canister, and fuel up 1 gallon of 91 Mid-Premium.  In the Camaro I go with the gas canister securely fastened.  OH YEAH - this whole story...it's been raining.  I don't mean a 5 minute drizzle; I'm talking a thorough, downpour.  Not a hurricane but not April showers either.  So back I go to Best Buy, and I placed the gas canister in the DeLorean (I almost walked inside with it - I can only imagine the attention I would have garnered doing that!).  I give 99 his keys back with many thanks and much praise, and I walk to the DeLorean for the true test of the night.
I go outside and open the trunk.  Of course this is the time the struts decide not to work.  So with holding the trunk with my back, I undo the fuel cap and begin to place the nozzle into the fueling tank.  One problem, the nozzle is TOO short.  I pull a "MacGuyver" and take apart my Pilot G2 pen on me to open the fueling area so the fuel can go in without stopping up.  Once I got all the one gallon of fuel in, I placed the canister back in the DeLorean, and I walk into Best Buy and head to their bathroom to clean up.  My leather coat is soaked, my shoes are almost squeaking with each step; I'm walking next to $1000+ TV's dripping wet...I just prayed nothing "mysteriously broke" while I was there.  I get to the bathroom, wash my pen off completely with soap and water as well my hands.  turn to the towel distributor - no towels.  With a soft sigh and maybe a little bit of a whimper I head back to the DeLorean with every prayer in the world in my heart.  I get in, sit a minute, say a
 couple prayers, and crank.  The moment of truth - crank,crank,vra-vra-vroom-clunk!  I almost freak, and then I remembered 99 telling me it could take a couple of tries before it fires up.  I try again "Crank,crank,crank,vra,vra,vraddatah-VRROOM!"  I softly sighed, thanked the Lord for getting me through the night, and I softly wiped away the one or two tears I had on my face.
So back I drove to the same Citgo.  This had been a long long night; it was time to enjoy the better sides of owning a DeLorean. Pop, the doors both open; I go to fill the car with 91 Mid-premium.  I get aout four or five guys at different times admiring her, talking to me, enjoying the car.  It was great.  Went to a chicken restaurant for a well-deserved dinner.  I called into work and told them to clock me out; I'm not coming back.  Then I went to see one of my friends while she was at work.  I asked her if she wanted a ride in the DeLorean.  She jumped at the opportunity (so did I  8) !!), and I took her for a 10 minute drive in the car.  I went home, got in big trouble for not telling my lady where I had been or what had happened (and she was right; I should have called).  I let her win, konked out for 5.5 hours or so, and here I am at work again typing this now.
Wow, what a night.  I'm still recovering from it.  I can't wait to tell that one to my grandkids!  I'll still have the car to prove it ;)!


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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 13:02:39 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: 2 SUBJECTS: TRANSMISSION & CAR INSURANCE

In a message dated 1/17/04 9:30:32 AM Central Standard Time, 
docrth_at_dml_verizon.net writes:
THEY REPLACED THE MASTER CYLINDER ($225.00) AND
THE SLAVE CYLINDER (139.15) PLUS $440 IN LABOR.  ALMOST IMMEDIATELY I
NOTICED THAT THE CAR WAS RUNNING MORE POORLY THAN WHEN THEY STARTED.  I
IMMEDIATELY RETURNED THE CAR.  ALMOST 4 WEEKS LATER I GET CALLED AND TOLD
THAT THE REPAIRS ARE FINISHED AND THAT THEY HAD TO REPLACE THE CLUTCH.  THE
ADDITIONAL COST IS NOW AN ADDITIONAL $1500.

          DOES THIS COMPUTE?
>>>>>>>>>

I don't know much about the insurance issue, but i do know the transmission.

The parts they ordered would have been about $125 cheaper from PJ Grady, and 
they would be the correct and highest quality part.  But they probably didn't 
know they could get parts for them there, and i'm sure they would have been 
more than happy to use your source if you would have told them you only want 
parts from a DeLorean vendor, of which you would supply contact information. 

I had no idea what i was doing when i first replaced my clutch master and 
slave, and i would say that it probably took me about 4 hours including learning 
how to bleed it.  i would hope they know better than I, so do they charge 
$110/hr for labor?  what IS their hourly labor rate?

I had the transmission dropped, cracked open, cleaned up, replaced the roll 
pins, and had a centerforce clutch installed for about $1000, parts and labor.  
again, what is their hourly rate?  remember that when you brought it back, 
they had to do a diagnosis so that will take more time to figure out what the 
problem is.

Since this is a 'high end' shop, by which i suppose you mean they specialize 
in Ferrari, Bentley, Rolls, Maserati, etc, i'm sure they have a high labor 
rate but they probably also know enough not to make things worse (such as when 
dealing with the fuel system).  For the clutch and transmission, i'm sure there 
other other places better than a Texaco but not as specialized as a high end 
shop.  Try to find a place that has been around a long time, has a very clean 
shop and waiting area, knowledgable staff, clean exterior and curb appeal, and 
they probably are booked solid because the best shops get around through word 
of mouth.  make sure you negotiate warranty and satisfaction standards before 
they start or do any work at all.

Anyway, back to your problem.  Does the transmission feel like brand new 
again?  the only part they didn't replace was the clutchline with a stainless 
braided variety.  You should probably get this done too, if you haven't had it 
done yet, especially in the heat of Florida.  For that price (which is probably 
fair because i'm sure their labor rate is high but posted, and you probably 
told them to 'fix my car', which implies you want them to do whatever is prudent 
and necessary.  remember, the typical Ferrari owner has deep pockets and is 
used to a high bill for repairs.  YOU came to THEM, so should they believe you 
to be any different?), i'm sure the transmission is buttery smooth now.  You 
got what you told them to do, and you probably could have gotten it done 
cheaper, but legally, you have no basis for non-payment, unless you already agreed to 
a cap on the repair bill, which they could have exceeded.  The real test is, 
are there still transmission problems?  If not, you had better give them what 
you owe them.

In the future, i would take a few days to talk to other owners on the list in 
your area and find another safe but cost-effective repair shop.  Surely they 
are out there!  But I really dont think the place you went to did anything 
wrong or charged you astronomical prices.  Sounds about right for the Miami area.

Good Luck,
Andy


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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:44:28 -0800
From: "Bruce Benson" <delornut_at_dml_peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: Supercharger help

Mark,

You've asked a number of technical questions of which answers require entire
books to be written. You definitely need to do some research and gain a
thorough understanding of what changes arise in the combustion process when
going to a boosted intake system.You'll find opinions here on the list, some
with credentials and others merely speculative but there is so much more to
this than a few simple paragraphs on the list can cover. An excellent source
for books on super and turbocharging is www.classicmotorbooks.com. I notice
their web site is under construction right now. Their email is
mbibks(at)motorbooks.com..and their phone number is 1-800-826-6600. I strongly
suggest you gain as much technical information as possible before tearing
into this project. As a start I'd recommend keeping boost levels below 7 psi
unless you plan to do some radical engine modification such as reducing
compression with forged, dished, pistons. Ignition modifications are less
than perfect for a boosted intake when you're dealing with an odd firing
engine like the PRV. Intercooling is a benefit but with a rear engine car
that's creating a vacuum like atmosphere in areas around the engine
compartment while at speed, they can end up being only of marginal benefit
without some modifications to the area surrounding the intercooler.. You
will need a wastegate to maintain boost at a proper level. There are a few
tricks to getting a bit more fuel from the K-Jetronic system but you really
need a complete understanding of how the system works and an equally
thorough understanding of the super charging process.As I said, there's more
to it that a couple of paragraphs on the list can explain. Get a good book
on supercharging and read it thoroughly before you start.

Bruce Benson


> I am beginning planning for my install of the vortech >supercharger I
purchased.
> 1) What is a safe boost level (psi) to use with this   >setup on a stock
delo engine? I am thinking about >getting a 10 psi pulley and using an
adjustable pop->off valve to limit the max boost to whatever I set. Is
> this possible? Where can I get a pop-off valve? (I'm >not talking about a
blow-off valve)
>
> 2) What timing should I use?
>
> 3) I assume high-octane rating fuel and possibly >H2O/methanol  injection
may not be a bad idea?
>
> 4) Should I use an aftercooler? (where should I put it and where can I
purchase one that will fit?)
>
> 5) What is the best way to get extra fuel into the >system under boost?
>
> 6) What system can I piggy-back to the existing >system to control all
> of this or should I just replace the existing ignition >and fuel system?
>
> Is there anything else I am leaving out?
>
> Thanks for any help....
> #10901 will soon be worthy of it's looks!
> Mark





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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:18:18 +0000
From: "Alex Khavich" <prof_khavo_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Delorean on video game website

Hi everyone! I saw a link to a video game website on a message board, and on 
the page, the first thing I saw was a Delorean with Super Monkey Ball 
monkeys in it. I was wondering if this belongs to anyone on the list.

Here's the site: http://www.vortiginous.com/


-Alex



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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:25:27 -0000
From: "supermattthehero" <supermatty_at_dml_psu.edu>
Subject: Re: THREE SUBJETS RUST SPOTS AND SHIFTER BOOT AND MANUAL SHIFTER FIXED

This might sound dumb, but what if you just kept after it? :)
I mean, eventually, all of the steel that is in there will have 
rusted, and if you kept after it with the sandpaper, it will be 
removed.  Heck, it might even help to accelerate this rusting 
process.  After all the steel has turned to rust, apply some naval 
jelly or the like and then sand it away.  

Matt
#1604


> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, John Podlewski <john_podlewski_at_dml_y...>
> wrote:
> > Question on rust, years ago when I bought my Delorean I used steel
> wool to polish the car, as I was told, I didn't know any better. 
> Needless to say, now I'm left with steel rust spots embedded in my
> hood, fenders and other panels (NOT PRETTY).  It cleans up nice, but
> comes back 3-4 months later.  Is there any way to rid of this 
problem
> FOREVER?????  Or am I screwed!!
> >




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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:35:25 -0000
From: "dcsj4465" <dcsj_at_dml_excite.com>
Subject: The Latest Issue of DW from DOA

I just wanted to give High praise to the Design team that put 
together the the latest issue of DW I'm thuroughly impressed!
This is truly a first class presentation issue.

For those who aren't DOA members, All I can tell you is that the 
cover design uses the same type of Black heavy paper that was used in 
the original large DMC promotional Booklet. It is embossed with a 
large version of the DOA logo highlighted in silver. 

Also as an interesting tidbit D1 included a DVD with a 2.5 minute 
commercial for them. From all the different up close angles that they 
shot the Featured DMC,I would Have to say it is as FLAWLESS a 
Delorean as I have ever seen. Irreguardless of anyones personal views 
about Mr. Bernstein. He does offer A first class product to those who 
can afford it. 

Just my 2 cents

Dennis 5180




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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:53:51 -0000
From: "deloreanchuck" <chuckkay_at_dml_comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Brake Master Cylinder

Jon,
    I bought a rebuild master cylinder last April for 10610.  It is 
the same as a 1979-1986 Sabb 900.  I have had no problems with it.  I 
got it at a local auto parts store for $92.  www.Autopartsgiant.com 
and www.partsamerica.com both have it. 

                                              Chuck

> Hi there everyone,
> 	I need to replace the master cylinder in my D.  Am I stuck 
ordering one
> specifically for my D? or are there other options? ie: master 
cylinder from
> a saab or volvo or something less exotic? Thanks!
> 
> Jon




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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:56:41 -0000
From: "darrendiver" <darrendiver_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: mileage

What kind of mileage should I expect from a properly tuned DMC?  I 
just got mine running and am getting about 10 mpg.  It is running 
rich, as I had an emissions test on it.  How can I lean it or what 
should I check for.  It does not smoke on start up or while it is 
running.  It does however put out some soot on the garage floor from 
the exhaust.Thanks.
Darren




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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:09:54 -0000
From: "westleymills2003" <westleymills2003_at_dml_yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: interia panels

hi im wanting to remove the interia panel that goes along the bottom 
of the rear window.to do this it looks like i have to remove the 
quater interia panels,if so how do i do it,
thanks wes




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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:53:54 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>
Subject: Re: 2 SUBJECTS: TRANSMISSION & CAR INSURANCE

Of course if you take your car to a non-DeLorean Service center, it's 
logical to assume that the shop is going to mark up the parts. That's 
part of the business. I don't believe that "regular" car places get 
any kind of discount from the vendors, and I would not expect a shop 
to pass parts thru at-cost and not even cover shipping. 

Dave S

> The parts they ordered would have been about $125 cheaper from PJ 
Grady, and 
> they would be the correct and highest quality part.  But they 
probably didn't 
> know they could get parts for them there, and i'm sure they would 
have been 
> more than happy to use your source if you would have told them you 
only want 
> parts from a DeLorean vendor, of which you would supply contact 
information. 
> 





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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:25:24 -0500
From: Samuel <samuel_yahoo_at_dml_lightspeed.cx>
Subject: Re: interia panels

I just replaced mine. Due to the length of the piece, I was able to 
insert one side (little fiddling with it to get it behind, I also had 
the back panel out when I did it) and carefully bent it to fit into the 
other side.

Samuel
#5096

westleymills2003 wrote:

>hi im wanting to remove the interia panel that goes along the bottom 
>of the rear window.to do this it looks like i have to remove the 
>quater interia panels,if so how do i do it,
>thanks wes



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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:30:19 -0500
From: Samuel <samuel_yahoo_at_dml_lightspeed.cx>
Subject: Re: interia panels

[correction i misread it originally for putting one in/replacing instead of taking out]

There isnt much behind the sides. I replaced mine and due to the length, 
i bent it downwards in the middle to remove it as I did not want to deal 
with removing the sides to get it out. I ended up with the vynal coming 
undone, but i just pushed the various hole pieces back into the backboard.

Samuel

westleymills2003 wrote:

>hi im wanting to remove the interia panel that goes along the bottom 
>of the rear window.to do this it looks like i have to remove the 
>quater interia panels,if so how do i do it,
>thanks wes



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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:17:46 EST
From: PRC1216_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Broken Power Mirror Switch for sale

Hey, if anyone needs a power mirror switch to play around with and fix, I 
have one.   There are no ball bearings left in it, but there are 2 springs.   The 
wiring harness for it is in great shape too.   I am willing to let it go for 
cheap.

Email me off the list,
Patrick
1880


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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:09:00 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Supercharger help

All of this is great advice. In general if you take the "road less
traveled" and go off on your own trying to design things yourself it
takes a lot more time and money than going with what already is
available and works. If you are unfamiliar with this type of thing
then maybe you should consider Island Turbo and their 2 turbo set-up.
They can be reached _at_dml_ 800-303-1924, This is not a plug, only a
possible option if you are going in this direction. If you are not
doing the actual work yourself but instead are going to have a shop
experiment for you then you should have "deep pockets" as they are
going to be learning on your dime. Also this is a case where "If a
little is good a lot is better" NOT!!!!!! Any boost over 6 PSI will
damage your engine, less if the mixture leans out or the timing is too
advanced. I also don't think an automatic should have forced
induction. The transmission in  the Delorean is not robust enough to
live a long time especally if you push it hard. The manual is more
rugged and even it will be damaged by rough handling. No less an
authority than Fred Dellis (of Legend Industries) has said that they
could get all the power out of the PRV-6 that they needed, the weak
point is the transmission. DMC spent MILLIONS with Legend Industries
and they could not get around the transmission problem. The long term
answer (acording to Fred) was that they were planning to get away from
the French and source another transmission and final drive. If you do
boost the engine remember to to something about the vacuum modulater
on the automatic transmission (it need vacuum to soften the shifts).
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Benson" <delornut_at_dml_p...> wrote:
> Mark,
> 
> You've asked a number of technical questions of which answers
require entire
> books to be written. You definitely need to do some research and gain a
> thorough understanding of what changes arise in the combustion
process when
> going to a boosted intake system.You'll find opinions here on the
list, some
> with credentials and others merely speculative but there is so much
more to
> this than a few simple paragraphs on the list can cover. An
excellent source
> for books on super and turbocharging is www.classicmotorbooks.com. I
notice





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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:29:42 -0800 (PST)
From: John Podlewski <john_podlewski_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: DELOREAN FIXED (MY STORY) RE:TRANSMISSION AND CAR INSURANCE

I only hope the shop in South Florida that did the transmission repair is not G.T Car Center in Ft. Lauderdale, they work on exotic cars.  Among the many complaints: had my Delorean there for over 2 1/2 months for you guessed it transmission installed, not ever repaired.  I installed the clutch myself first took it into the JAG SHOP.  Where they told me I had the wrong clutch on the car (I didn't).  I don't even think they looked at it as it sat there for 8 weeks same spot back lot (blocked in).  I had enough and had it towed to G.T Car Center.  Well I waited and waited and waited while I was waiting I noticed another Delorean(hope it was not the one on the list).  
Anyway, after they installed the tranny, and $1300 later and other misc. work done.  I picked it up but it would not shift into all the gears(just fixed that a couple days ago) so I bought it back.  They insisted they would fix it and that it needed a tune-up.  Giving them the benefit of the doubt(I won't do that again) I reluctantly gave them permission for the tune-up. Well that turned into fuel problems i.e injectors and a new F.D-I don't think so!
Well 7 weeks later and after seeing my Delorean on a weekly basis getting worse(It didn't even accelerate above idle only stalled and sputtered), it ran fine before!  So I told them I was taking it out of the shop.  Especially when they tell me they are looking for parts at a nearby junkyard and witnessing the mechanic playing with the 3 brass screws on the top of the butterfly valves in an effort to mask a major problem. 
Here's the good part they wanted another $600 for the work.  I said what work, almost all the parts I supplied(injectors, C.V boots)!  When I told them I was not paying a dime for damaging my Delorean, they called me every name in the book, as I moved my two cars off the property and left!  I disputed the 1st charge with the credit card, always use a credit card, and WON!
Morale-DON'T LET ANYONE WORK ON THE FUEL SYSTEM UNLESS YOU KNOW THEY CAN FIX OR REPAIR IT 100% I MEAN 100%.
 
It took many many months to figure out the problems they caused and could not have done it without the DELOREAN COMMUNITY-THANKS EVERYONE!
Problems:Fuel hoses connected wrong at the fuel pump(OH BOY)-THAT" IT'S
Total blockage of CAT (they did something-enriched the mixture?)
Blockage of valve for dist. advance (silicone in hole of soild. valve) not advancing
New injectors and new seals for intake manifold(ALL)
Readjust throttle linkage (sticking)
NOTE: JUST BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU TAKE YOUR SMALL PIECE OF AUTOMOTIVE HISTORY
 






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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:33:54 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: The Latest Issue of DW from DOA

I have seen the latest DW too. I also give it high marks for the
craftsmanship and quality. Unfortuantly it is more of a travel log
than a publication for a car club. If you look at the front cover it says 

Travel Technical Lifestyle

It is heavy on the Travel and the Lifestyle, very light on the
Technical. I suppose coming from California this is what they
emphacise (sorry for the spelling!). Maybe most of the people in
California don't work on their cars so they have no need for much
technical?  What I look for (and I think most other do too) is more on
the technical and the activities of other groups around the country.
It is a shame this fine looking magazine isn't more representitive of
the entire country and the many different types of people that own,
maintain and operate their Deloreans. Not many Delorean owners can
identify with Kevin and Andrea. It is nice to know that even people
like them still like Deloreans too though. I guess we maybe do have
some things in common. Most car club publications have an upcoming
events section. I have to assume that in the world of DW only their
events are worthy of mentioning. Maybe they should have an article on
the world of Deloreans on the Internet. BTW by his own admission Ed
Bernstein does not claim to be a mechanic. Yet he (don't forget he is
also the editor/director)    is giving technical advice in the only
technical artice in the magazine. I guess since they are producing
less magazines per year they are going to spend more on each one.
This is all my own opinion and in no way reflects on the DML.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757 



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "dcsj4465" <dcsj_at_dml_e...> wrote:
> I just wanted to give High praise to the Design team that put 
> together the the latest issue of DW I'm thuroughly impressed!
> This is truly a first class presentation issue.
> 
> For those who aren't DOA members, All I can tell you is that the 
> cover design uses the same type of Black heavy paper that was used in 
> the original large DMC promotional Booklet. It is embossed with a 
> large version of the DOA logo highlighted in silver. 
> 
> Also as an interesting tidbit D1 included a DVD with a 2.5 minute 
> commercial for them. From all the different up close angles that they 
> shot the Featured DMC,I would Have to say it is as FLAWLESS a 
> Delorean as I have ever seen. Irreguardless of anyones personal views 
> about Mr. Bernstein. He does offer A first class product to those who 
> can afford it. 
> 
> Just my 2 cents
> 
> Dennis 5180




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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 00:32:05 EST
From: billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: PJ Grady steering sale....

I just thought I would mention on Rob Grady's site he is selling his steering 
racks for a great price now.... I had one of his rebuilt racks put on my car 
by my shop about a year and a half ago (car failed inspection). Once I got the 
rack put on I then redid my tie rod ends and now have new tires. My car now 
drives a like a new car. It handles perfectly around corners and I have 
complete confidence in the front end of my car. I have also replaced all my 
stabilizer bushings that I bought from Rob as well.

Anyone unhappy with how your car handles should take advantage of this 
offer...No, Rob did not pay me for this :-) Just saw the discount on his site and 
since I bought one of his racks before I just wanted to pass on how nice my car 
now handles...

Mike C
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:17:21 EST
From: PRC1216_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: DeLorean Ski Rack Anyone?

Does anyone have the DeLorean ski rack?   I think it looks pretty interesting 
and would like to see some pictures of it, other than the small one on the 
old DMC Accessories sheet.   

Patrick
1880


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Message: 23
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:27:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Louie Golden <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Re: mileage

My car gets roughly 20 city and 30 highway. It's worth noting the automatics don't get as good of mileage as the 5-speeds because of their gear ratios, and lack of a true "overdrive" gear. As probably know the automatics had only 3 gears. My quoted mileages are for my 5-speed car. 

To lean the car out remove the airbox which houses the air filter. It is fastened to the intake manifold with 3 bolts. Once it is removed, behind the air intake plenum should be a wire handled rubber plug. Many cars have lost this along the way, and previous owners have found all sorts of ways to plug this hole (most often you will find this opening closed with a screw in those cases). It's worth noting that the car will have a terrible vacuum leak if this hole is not secured. Anyways, after removing the plug you simply stick an allen head wrench down into the hole and you will find the fuel adjustment screw. I can't remember the size of it off the top of my head... sorry. To lean the car turn the screw left, to richen the mixture turn it right. You can test the car by either driving it, smelling the exhaust, or mapping your fuel economy. You'll know if you lean it too much as the car will either die or clatter. Remember a fraction of a turn COULD be all that's necessary to get your mixture just right. Make sure to check your spark plugs after your experimenting to make sure you're not leaning the mixture out too much. Remember cars perform best running slightly lean, but you don't want to barbeque your engine either. Spark plugs can tell you a world of information about what's happening in your engine. I'd look at their current condition before doing anything at all actually. Play with the fuel mixture in small increments until you get your desired result. 

Also consider upgrading your ignition system at this time... you'd be absolutely amazed what a new pair of sparkplugs and a new coil will do for your engine. Not only will your car be able to give a more complete burn to the fuel in the cylinder with this, you'll also feel a notable increase in performance, smoothness, and flexibility. Checking your engine timing would also be a good idea at this juncture. Let us know your results, and if we can help you any further.

Louie Golden
VIN 5252 Charlotte, NC


--- "darrendiver" <darrendiver_at_dml_yahoo.com> wrote:
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Message: 24
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:48:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Louie Golden <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Re: The Latest Issue of DW from DOA

--- "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net> wrote:
IIt is a shame this fine looking magazine isn't more representitive of
the entire country and the many different types of people that own,
maintain and operate their Deloreans.


That's my exact sentiments on the DOA and DeLorean World. I think they've horrifically midjudged their POTENTIAL audience. Almost every DeLorean owner I've ever met has been in their 20s and 30s and are very modest middle class average kind of Joe people. The DeLorean is a fun affordable and very attainable classic/exotic car to them. It stretches most of their budgets to own the car, but they enjoy all of the spoils of ownership just the same. Instead of this main audience, the DOA has chosen a TARGET AUDIENCE... those who are really more interested in a lifestyle than a car. They want to flaunt DeLorean ownership as an experience akin to being a member of an elite country club which has an exclusionary membership policy, but once you're in, it's for life! I really think their only goal with all of this is to try and bolster the value of the car. While I highly disagree with what they think DeLorean ownership is all about, I DO think it's important that we have all views represented of exactly what the DeLorean "experience" is. For some it IS champagne and cavier on the beaches of Santa Barbara, and for others it's all about getting together with your buddies to finally install that part you've been saving up for. That's why I think it's so great that there are a variety of magazines for DeLorean owners that are tailored to different interests. Variety is the spice of life they say, and I for one am glad we have them all.

Louie Golden
VIN 5252 Charlotte, NC

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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:53:07 EST
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Recovering seats

I posted a complete procedure for replacing seat covers in the files section.
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/files/

Wayne A. Ernst
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