From: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1846
Date: Friday, January 23, 2004 8:57 AM

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Lo-jack
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>

2. CIS = "Constant Idle Speed"
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

3. Re: CIS, abbreviation for what? (Was: Re: idle speed regulator)
From: "Andrei Cular" <acular_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com>

4. Long Island - New York DeLorean Motor Club
From: doctorDHD_at_dml_aol.com

5. DeLorean- Kruse auction
From: "Marvin" <marv_at_dml_printeddrinkware.com>

6. Lock Problems
From: Tom Watkins <dmctom_at_dml_earthlink.net>

7. It's time to release a new version of the DeLorean Owners Directory
From: "Montgomery, Ken" <kenm_at_dml_csus.edu>

8. heat shields
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

9. Dynosim
From: "savantprods" <TCConnors_at_dml_sbcglobal.net>

10. Re: CIS, abbreviation for what? (Was: Re: idle speed regulator)
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>

11. Re: New Photos! BTTF-3 DeLorean
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>

12. Replace fuse block with circuit breakers?
From: "supermattthehero" <supermatty_at_dml_psu.edu>

13. Re: Re: under sealed at dmc?
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

14. Re: New Photos! BTTF-3 DeLorean
From: "wayofcain" <wayofcain_at_dml_yahoo.com>

15. DeLorean made this?
From: "Tom Porter" <treehouse2000us_at_dml_yahoo.com>

16. ATTN: Moderator
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

17. Re: Lo-jack
From: "Henry" <henry_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>

18. Re: It's time to release a new version of the DeLorean Owners Directory
From: Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman_at_dml_fuse.net>

19. Re: Re: New Photos! BTTF-3 DeLorean
From: Louie Golden <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>

20. Re: DeLorean- Kruse auction
From: "Jeff Chabotte" <webmaster_at_dml_88-mph.com>

21. Re: CIS = "Constant Idle Speed"
From: DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683_at_dml_wi.rr.com>

22. RE: Replace fuse block with circuit breakers?
From: "jdub" <doki_pen_at_dml_yahoo.com>

23. RE: Lo-jack
From: "jdub" <doki_pen_at_dml_yahoo.com>

24. Re: 2 SUBJECTS: TRANSMISSION & CAR INSURANCE
From: "therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas_at_dml_cox.net>

25. RE: Replace fuse block with circuit breakers?
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:52:38 -0000
From: "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Lo-jack

I am investigating the installation of the "Lo-Jack" theft recovery 
system for my DeLorean.

It's very interesting. It costs $995.00, includes cell 
phone/email/pager notification if your car is moved by unauthorized 
personnel, starter disable, panic mode etc. It's no bigger than a 
pack of playing cards. They will NOT tell you or let you figure out 
where it is installed on your OWN vehicle. The $995 is a one time 
fee. There is no subsequent monitoring fee. The signal can be 
received in underground parking garages and metal shipping 
containers. The transmitter is active as soon as you file a stolen 
vehicle report.

There's more but you get the idea. Does anyone have this system? Are 
you happy with it? As far as collectables/exotics go, is the DeLorean 
worth doing it to? I'd think it is because of our small population 
but...

Thanks,

Rich A.
#5335




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:56:49 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: CIS = "Constant Idle Speed"

Please see Message #38414. I will bring Volvo and Bosch factory
literature to Mid Atlantic to show anyone interested in person.

Bosch never used the word "System" in either acronym.

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_w...> wrote:
> The actual correct meaning of CIS is Continuous Injection System as
> opposed to Pulsed Injection. This is a family of systems with
> K-Jetronic w/ Lambda Control (aka K-Lambda) being the one we are
> interested in.
> Another way to look at the acronym CIS is on an old Delorean that
> hasn't run in years is Corroded InSide. The idle system is called
> Bosch Electronic Idle Speed Control System. There is no acronym.
> David Teitelbaum
> vin 10757



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:10:12 -0500
From: "Andrei Cular" <acular_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: CIS, abbreviation for what? (Was: Re: idle speed regulator)

As far as naming goes it really depends on what book you are reading.  I
have a couple from Bosch one has CIS as Continuous Injection System and the
other has it as Idle Speed.  My Bentley for VW has it as Injection, for
Porsche has it as idle, but the best is the fuel injection only book that
has both.

> Your misidentification is actually quite common:
>
> CI -- "Continuous Injection"
> CIS -- "Constant Idle Speed"
>
> These are Bosch's terms, adopted by Peugot, Renault, and Volvo.

Andrei






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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:20:50 EST
From: doctorDHD_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Long Island - New York DeLorean Motor Club

Yes, yes, yes I know about the Mid Atlantic Club because I am a member and I 
think it's great. I've had a lot of fun and learned a lot about the car going 
to their meetings.  It just seems that there are a lot of people in the Long 
Island ~ New York area that own DeLoreans and apparently were in the group here 
at one time.  I would like to be able to get together at least once a month 
if possible.  Obviously for me it would be easier here on Long Island. I sent 
letters to fifty names on the "New York" list.  I'll see if I get any replys.  
In reference to helping out I have offered to help Mike D. with the Fall Tour 
2004 and would be interested in helping organize any other get togethers here 
on LI.

Dave & 6530


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:32:12 -0500
From: "Marvin" <marv_at_dml_printeddrinkware.com>
Subject: DeLorean- Kruse auction

While in Florida, I went to the Kruse auction Jan 2, 3, 4  / 04, in Ft Lauderdale. Among the many neat vehicles for sale was a "back to the future" / time machine DeLorean. The car was documented with a binder showing the building of BTTF style car, and stayed very close to photos and promo material offered by the movie studio. I spoke briefly with the owner, whose name slips my mind. He said he had a reserve of $35,000.00 (USA). The car started immediately, ran smooth, looked sharp, and was very clean throughout. It appeared the accessories were held in place with double sided tape or glue. I could see no drill holes or screws on the body. The total vehicle looked really good, if you like that sort of configuration to a unique car in itself. The car apparently had a high bid of $ 30,000.00 and did not sell.
There was a sellers fee of, I think, 5% and a buyers fee of 10%. Many cars did sell. 

At $35,000.00 the gross sale would have been $40,250.00 plus tax. 

I left before the auction started for that car, as well as, a beautiful '64 Buick convertible (sold for only $14,000.00) and a cherry, old black Cadillac sedan that would have made a dynamite gangster rod, and a magnificently gorgeous red '64 or '65 T-Bird convertible. Had I stayed, I would have put in bids on several cars, been thrown out of my home, screamed at for years, smacked on the head, divorced, tortured, and forced to work for the rest of my days.

Because there was a DeLorean there, I thought the list might be interested. 
 
Marv.
# 17077
marv_at_dml_printeddrinkware.com


 


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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:30:54 -0500
From: Tom Watkins <dmctom_at_dml_earthlink.net>
Subject: Lock Problems

I had the exact same issue with my car.   Rob Grady tested my solenoids 
with a LockZilla unit and no...it does not correct faulty solenoids.  I 
purchased a set of his "Zilla"-noids as he calls them which I guess are 
more robust than stock units.  Anyway.....I installed both myself and it 
corrected the problem with no issues.  I would start with a new set of 
solenoids and go right to the heart of it.   I did buy the new Zilla 
control module as well as the Zilla remote door lock/unlock module. 
 Both work flawlessly and as a novice in this sort of stuff it was 
important for it to be easy for me to install.   I am looking forward to 
the door launch feature as well but have not heard when Bob will be 
making them available.    There are other vendors for some of these 
items as you will read.  I don't wish to "dis" anyone who sells stuff. 
 I have only dealt with Rob and Bob for the Zilla line of products and 
have been very happy with them, which is not to say that the other 
vendors items are inferior in any way.  I just don't have any experience 
with them to make any statement about them.

Tom
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:27:08 -0800
From: "Montgomery, Ken" <kenm_at_dml_csus.edu>
Subject: It's time to release a new version of the DeLorean Owners Directory

It's been since last March that there's been a new edition of the
DeLorean Owners Directory. Since then we've had about 120
additions/updates/corrections. I'd like to give everyone a couple weeks
to get into the next edition of the Directory. It will take me a couple
more weeks to type in all the entries and produce the PDF file.

If you've made or changed your entry since March 2003, it will be
reflected in the next edition and there's no need to enter your data
again. I will let everyone know when the new version is posted.

You can add your car by filling out the form on the dmcnews website:
www.dmcnews.com/directory.html

Adding your car to DeLorean Owners Directory also adds you car to the
VIN chronology. After I confirm your entry, you can send a separate
request for an access account to download your own copy of the
Directory*.

* I first make sure your entry fits properly into the list, such as
having a VIN that matches the build dates of the other cars close to
your VIN # and that the car isn't already in the Directory under another
name).

Ken

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Ken Montgomery	Sacramento, CA  VIN #10911  'OUTTIME'
http://www.time-traveler.org/delorean/
mailto:kenm_at_dml_csus.edu
President, Northern California DeLorean Motor Club
http://www.ncdmc.org
Keeper of the International DeLorean Owners Directory
http://www.dmcnews.com  mailto:directory_at_dml_dmcnews.com
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:11:46 -0500
From: kKoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: heat shields

Anyone out there have a decent used heat shield I can use for the raffle car.

Looks like I am gonna have to make some if I cannot find it.
The ones I have are kinda sorry and I won't put them back on.

If you have some or know where I can it reasonable e-mail me privately.

Ken



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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:44:00 -0000
From: "savantprods" <TCConnors_at_dml_sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Dynosim

Does anyone (especially anyone familiar with Pro Racing Sim in 
Tennessee) know if our PRV is in the engine database for the Dynosim 
engine simulation software?

I am interested in the program, which calculates the horsepower of 
any particular engine setup.  However, I do not want to have to enter 
all of our engine component information from scratch.

If a reliable PRV model is available, the software could provide an 
interesting and efficient way to test the power rating of different 
Delorean buildups.




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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:37:07 -0500
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Re: CIS, abbreviation for what? (Was: Re: idle speed regulator)

Here are the first 5 sites that I found that say CIS stands for
Continuous Injection System.  I found none that said anything about idle
speed.  The K-Jetronics is a fuel injection system, oftne associated with
"CIS".  Since the fuel injection system has absolutely NOTHING to do with
idle speed, which is an air-valve, it seems very unlikely to me that
"CIS" has anything to do with idle speed.
Also, is there a bold alternate fuel injection system called "RFIS"- with
"Randomly Fluctuating Idle Speed"?

Bill, you should recheck your acronyms, i think you have made a mistake. 
Even if your book does say exactly what you're saying, it is possible
that it is wrong as well.

www.aircooledtech.com/CIS_injection/
"The acronym CIS stands for "Continuous Injection System". "

www.peugeotclub.org/peugeot/archive/General/2000/Oct/0055.html
"CIS stands for Continous Injection system and K-Jetronic is Bosch's
name for such system"

www.audifans.com/archives/1999/04/msg00305.html
"the CI in CIS stands for continuous injection"

www.c2turbo.com/ forums/showthread.php?goto=newpost&threadid=511
"CIS stands for Continuous Injection System"

www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/subaru/1/CIS/
"CIS stands for Continuous Injection System"

Jim
1537


On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:16:14 -0000 "content22207"
<brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net> writes:
> Your misidentification is actually quite common:
> 
> CI -- "Continuous Injection"
> CIS -- "Constant Idle Speed"
> 
> These are Bosch's terms, adopted by Peugot, Renault, and Volvo.
> 


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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:57:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>
Subject: Re: New Photos! BTTF-3 DeLorean

John,

The good news is that you were right - judging from the quality and
presentation of the DeLorean, the restaurant doesn't seem that great.

It's a little hard to tell from the pictures, but it looks like it's just
the stainless panels and the big exhaust vents on the back. I wonder if
this is one of the cars from the movie, and if so, I wonder what happened
to the rest of it...

-Christian

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com wrote:

> I want to shoot myself. I was recently in Waikiki, and stayed at a hotel near
> the Planet Hollywood. I never went in, and I remember talking to my friends
> on how the restaurant wasn't that great. 
> John
> 4275



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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:21:03 -0000
From: "supermattthehero" <supermatty_at_dml_psu.edu>
Subject: Replace fuse block with circuit breakers?

I replaced a fuse today in my car and realized then that my fuse 
block holds my fuses very loosely.  I can nearly pull them out with 
a single finger.  After looking around for replacement fuse blocks, 
I thought, why not replace them with circuit breakers of the same 
size?  I was planning on getting some panel-mount, manual-reset 
types.  They could be affixed to a cut piece of stainless in the 
relay compartment, and it would clean things up a bit.  Any 
thoughts/concerns about this?  

thanks,

Matt
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:42:08 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: under sealed at dmc?

In a message dated 1/22/04 9:48:37 AM Central Standard Time, 
stuartalexander_at_dml_hotmail.com writes:
I believe only the '83 models exported to the east coast have black 
underseal.  Those that went to the west (with similar production 
dates) don't seem to have it.  This implies that it was done in the 
US and not in NI.

Stuart

vin 16686 (with black underseal)
My car is an early '82 and is undersealed.  In fact, the reason for the 
sealing is found in stainless steel illusion, where it says that the cars sitting 
in the dock (there were 435) in Long Beach, CA had been sitting for quite a 
while exposed to the salt air, which was causing corrosion problems.  the book 
claims that the epoxied frames were unaffected, but other sources such as Rob 
Grady have maintained that it did indeed cause frame problems, and the cars were 
undercoated before delivery to dealers for extra protection.

ironically, the black undercoating is a terrible problem.  it is rubbery and 
allows moisture to get between it and the expoxied frame.  it actually 
accelerates rust problems instead of preventing them, as my car has experienced.  be 
especially wary of buying a later car with black undercoating.

oh yes, another thing.  the undercoating got all over all of the fasteners on 
the bottom end of the car such as the fuel tank plate bolts.  tried to remove 
one once and it broke right off due to moisture under the sealant corroding 
the bolt.  not fun.

Andy


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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:59:54 -0000
From: "wayofcain" <wayofcain_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: New Photos! BTTF-3 DeLorean

Was this the one that was hit by the train? It doesn't look like 
there is much Delorean left there. I was really hoping it was the one 
with the whitewall tires and the hopped up suspension for driving 
through the rough terrain. I loved that look.

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "malevy_nj" <malevy_nj_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> Finally had time to scan in some pictures I took while in Hawaii a 
> few weeks back.
> 
> This is the "Time Machine" from BTTF 3.  It is in the Planet 
> Hollywood (Waikiki beach, if I remember correctly).
> 
> No, the photos are NOT upside-down..  The car is suspended from the 
> ceiling!
> 
> Enjoy,
> Marc




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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:42:28 -0000
From: "Tom Porter" <treehouse2000us_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: DeLorean made this?

Hey guys, I just come acrost this while looking (once again) for a 
car.... this is certainly the funniest looking DeLorean I have ever 
seen.  Hope you guys get a kick ...

http://adcache.collectorcartraderonline.com/10/3/8/63807638.htm

Tom Porter
<--- Not looking for 'this' car




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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 01:27:25 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: ATTN: Moderator

I do not have a scanner, so could you please add these two URL's to my
earlier post Re: definition of CI vs CIS:

CI (Continuous Injection):
http://i2.ebayimg.com/01/i/01/22/78/1f_1.JPG

CIS (Constant Idle Speed)
http://i3.ebayimg.com/01/i/01/21/00/4f_1.JPG
(Kind of hard to read in this image, but in the upper right brown box,
between "Constant Idle Speed System" and "1981", are the letters "CIS"
in parentheses).

Thanks,

Bill Robertson
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:07:16 -0500
From: "Henry" <henry_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Lo-jack


I've had lojack in two of my (non-delorean) cars, and luckily, I've never had to use/activate it.  In both cases,  I found the unit while working on other things in the cars.  I wouldn't let them touch the Delorean - you have no idea where they are going to install it, or how they will tie into the electrics - which we already know can be problematic.   You also don't want them cutting into the fiberglass, which they might do - and you can't be there to help them understand any of the quirks about the car.   There are better ways to disable the car from being driven away (battery cut-off, inertia switch, standard alarm, etc) - that I don't think lojack is needed for a Delorean.  From what I've heard, vandalism is a much bigger problem than theft.

-Hank  #1619

----- Original Message ----- 

> I am investigating the installation of the "Lo-Jack" theft recovery 
> system for my DeLorean.
> 



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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:12:43 -0500
From: Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman_at_dml_fuse.net>
Subject: Re: It's time to release a new version of the DeLorean Owners Directory

Ken,

What if a car that is listed in the directory has changed hands since it 
was first listed?

Just curious, as that is/was my situation,
Josh


Montgomery, Ken wrote:

>* I first make sure your entry fits properly into the list, such as
>having a VIN that matches the build dates of the other cars close to
>your VIN # and that the car isn't already in the Directory under another
>name).
>
>Ken
>
>=======================================================
>Ken Montgomery	Sacramento, CA  VIN #10911  'OUTTIME'
>http://www.time-traveler.org/delorean/
>mailto:kenm_at_dml_csus.edu
>President, Northern California DeLorean Motor Club
>http://www.ncdmc.org
>Keeper of the International DeLorean Owners Directory
>http://www.dmcnews.com  mailto:directory_at_dml_dmcnews.com
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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:18:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Louie Golden <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Re: Re: New Photos! BTTF-3 DeLorean

Universal still owns the white wall tire BTTF 3 DeLorean... it's rotting away in their back lot. I wish they'd sell their BTTF DeLoreans to someone who would really appreciate and take care of them. Here are some fairly recent pictures of the white walled BTTF 3 DeLorean-

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5142/uni3.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5142/uni4.jpg
http://www.chesco.com/~silknitt/jeff/backlot.jpg
http://www.chesco.com/~silknitt/jeff/uni.jpg
http://www.chesco.com/~silknitt/jeff/front.jpg
http://www.chesco.com/~silknitt/jeff/back.jpg

-Louie Golden
VIN 5252 Charlotte, NC


--- "wayofcain" <wayofcain_at_dml_yahoo.com> wrote:
Was this the one that was hit by the train? It doesn't look like 
there is much Delorean left there.



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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:41:55 -0500
From: "Jeff Chabotte" <webmaster_at_dml_88-mph.com>
Subject: Re: DeLorean- Kruse auction

I believe the Delorean at that auction was converted by none other than "the
list's" own Gary Weaver.  I'll let him chime in on any details if he so
wishes.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marvin" <marv_at_dml_printeddrinkware.com>
Subject: [DML] DeLorean- Kruse auction


> While in Florida, I went to the Kruse auction Jan 2, 3, 4  / 04, in Ft
Lauderdale. Among the many neat vehicles for sale was a "back to the future"
/ time machine DeLorean. The car was documented with a binder showing the
building of BTTF style car, and stayed very close to photos and promo
material offered by the movie studio. I spoke briefly with the owner, whose
name slips my mind. 



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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:27:00 -0600
From: DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683_at_dml_wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: CIS = "Constant Idle Speed"

(Moderators Note: Based on this posting, this thread is now closed. It appears different publications say different things, just another unique part of Delorean ownership. Marty, this weeks moderator) 



It says "continuous injection system" in my 1981 Delorean owners manual.

Mark


On Thursday, January 22, 2004, at 09:56 AM, content22207 wrote:

> Please see Message #38414. I will bring Volvo and Bosch factory
> literature to Mid Atlantic to show anyone interested in person.
>
> Bosch never used the word "System" in either acronym.
>
> Bill Robertson
> #5939
>
>> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_w...> 
>> wrote:
>> The actual correct meaning of CIS is Continuous Injection System as
>> opposed to Pulsed Injection.



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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:31:56 -0800
From: "jdub" <doki_pen_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Replace fuse block with circuit breakers?

While this sounds good on paper I regret to inform you that a fuse is the
only fast response in case of a circuit overload.  Circuit breakers take too
long to throw because the bi-metal inside of them has to heat up to break
the connection.  This can become a dangerous situation.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: supermattthehero [mailto:supermatty_at_dml_psu.edu]
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 2:21 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Replace fuse block with circuit breakers?


I replaced a fuse today in my car and realized then that my fuse
block holds my fuses very loosely.  I can nearly pull them out with
a single finger.  After looking around for replacement fuse blocks,
I thought, why not replace them with circuit breakers of the same
size?  I was planning on getting some panel-mount, manual-reset
types.  They could be affixed to a cut piece of stainless in the
relay compartment, and it would clean things up a bit.  Any
thoughts/concerns about this?

thanks,

Matt
#1604



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Message: 23
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:39:05 -0800
From: "jdub" <doki_pen_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Lo-jack

I agree with Henry. Setup some trick immobilization circuitry.  Even if my
lo-jack protected car was stolen I wouldn't trust the police to follow up,
track down, and then dispatch a unit to recover it.  We have some pretty
nasty areas around where I live and sometimes i think the cops are more
scared than i am to travel in to them.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: cruznmd [mailto:racuti1_at_dml_delorean.com]
Subject: [DML] Lo-jack


I am investigating the installation of the "Lo-Jack" theft recovery
system for my DeLorean.




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Message: 24
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:21:42 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas_at_dml_cox.net>
Subject: Re: 2 SUBJECTS: TRANSMISSION & CAR INSURANCE

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Richard T. Herrick, MD"
<docrth_at_dml_v...> wrote:
<SNIP>
>     BEING IN A NEW AREA I'M HAVING TO ADJUST TO FINDING A NEW
MECHANIC.
> 
>          WHEN THE TRANSMISSION STARTED TO GRIND GOING INTO
REVERSE - NO
> PROBLEM WITH THE ENGINE NOT RUNNING- I TOOK MY CAR TO A SHOP 
SPECIALIZING IN
> HIGH-END AND IMPORT CARS. THINKING THAT THIS WOULD BE A SAFER
AVENUE 
THAN A
> TEXACO STATION MECHANIC.  THEY REPLACED THE MASTER CYLINDER
($225.00) 
AND
> THE SLAVE CYLINDER (139.15) PLUS $440 IN LABOR.  ALMOST IMMEDIATELY
I
> NOTICED THAT THE CAR WAS RUNNING MORE POORLY THAN WHEN THEY
STARTED.  
I
> IMMEDIATELY RETURNED THE CAR.  ALMOST 4 WEEKS LATER I GET CALLED
AND 
TOLD
> THAT THE REPAIRS ARE FINISHED AND THAT THEY HAD TO REPLACE THE
CLUTCH.  
THE
> ADDITIONAL COST IS NOW AN ADDITIONAL $1500.
> 
>           DOES THIS COMPUTE?
> 
> 
> Dick Herrick
> docrth_at_dml_v...

$1,500 IMO is way too much money, and 4 weeks is definetly too much
time. When I 
had my clutch replaced, my local garage dropped/reinstalled the
tranny, resurfaced 
my flywheel, installed a new Rear Main Seal, new Slave Cylinder,
flushed my clutch 
hydraulics, adjusted my shift linkage, AND even test drove my car.
And that cost me a 
little over $480 in labor, and about 4 hours of my time.

When looking for a suitable DeLorean mechanic, you may not want to go
for "Exotic & 
Specialty" garages. Your safest bet for engine work may be in looking
for a mechanic 
who is experienced in "Early Volvo & BOSCH." K-Jetronic, Constant
Injection Fuel 
Injection isn't all that complicated, but it seems to really
intimidate a fair amount of 
mechanics, which in turn leads to you having to pay for someones
"on-the-fly" 
education in repairing/tuning the system.

A good idea though is to always first check a shop's references, no
matter what kind 
of car you plan on taking to them. Especially with specialty garages,
which almost 
always seem to take longer than normal garages, and are usually
priced higher too. 
Plus, feel free to question the garage too, and ask them questions.
After all, they're 
there to no only work on your car, but to earn your business as well.
How many other 
DeLoreans have they worked on, and just what type of work was
performed? Another 
good test is to ask whom will be working on your car. While some
garages may have 
mechanics that have specialties, such as rebuilding automatic
trannys, everyone there 
should be competent enough to work on your DeLorean equally. In my
experiences, 
I've found that when a garage tells me "We have a guy who works on
DeLoreans.", 
what I'm really hearing is, "Yeah, we've got a designated guy that we
trust to tinker 
with cars we're not 100% comfortable working on."

But just as the saying goes, YMMV...

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"




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Message: 25
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:15:55 -0600
From: "John Hervey" <john_at_dml_specialtauto.com>
Subject: RE: Replace fuse block with circuit breakers?

I wouldn't do it with circuit breakers..
John Hervey
www.specialtauto.com



-----Original Message-----
From: supermattthehero [mailto:supermatty_at_dml_psu.edu]
Subject: [DML] Replace fuse block with circuit breakers?


I replaced a fuse today in my car and realized then that my fuse
block holds my fuses very loosely.  I can nearly pull them out with
a single finger.  After looking around for replacement fuse blocks,
I thought, why not replace them with circuit breakers of the same
size?



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