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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 2168
Date: Thursday, August 12, 2004 4:19 AM

There are 17 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. glove box
From: "andy" <andydandy777_at_dml_aol.com>

2. Re: New shocks and springs
From: "austinbrumley" <austinbrumley_at_dml_delorean.com>

3. Re: Horrible Idle problem
From: "austinbrumley" <austinbrumley_at_dml_delorean.com>

4. Re: Horrible Idle problem
From: Enid/Jeremiah <hispanicangeleyes_at_dml_yahoo.com>

5. Re: Cincinnati DeLorean Tech Session, Sept 12th
From: "austinbrumley" <austinbrumley_at_dml_delorean.com>

6. Electronic Speedo
From: doctorDHD_at_dml_aol.com

7. Re: More shameless ebay store self promotion...
From: "Vicky Miller" <delo1_at_dml_mindspring.com>

8. Re: Vacuum questions
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

9. Car Show/Fund Raiser in NJ
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

10. Re: steering wheel removal
From: kevin creason <kcreason77_at_dml_yahoo.com>

11. Re: Vin#1790 Alaskan Delorean?
From: kevin creason <kcreason77_at_dml_yahoo.com>

12. Re: Vin#1790 Alaskan Delorean?
From: "miller99501" <kamiller_at_dml_gci.net>

13. Re: Auto Trans Shift Points
From: "Michiel.bohmer" <michiel.bohmer_at_dml_infram.nl>

14. Re: swimming pool
From: klaus.steiner_at_dml_t-online.de

15. Re: Turn signals/hazzard lights not working
From: "Richard" <dmc_driver_at_dml_yahoo.ca>

16. Where lives John DeLorean now ?
From: "Elias Pierro" <dmc-delorean_at_dml_web.de>

17. RE: John DeLorean's Former Estate
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:22:58 -0000
From: "andy" <andydandy777_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: glove box

I need a fix for keeping my glove box closed, adjusting doesn't seem 
to do it, help.

Andy 03513




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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:00:57 -0000
From: "austinbrumley" <austinbrumley_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Re: New shocks and springs

Chris,

         If he backs out i'll buy them from you. Let me know.


                                                  Austin  




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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:28:09 -0000
From: "austinbrumley" <austinbrumley_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Re: Horrible Idle problem


1983 Delorean   = $9,100  <--- Ebay ripoff, The guy lied out his ass.
Shipping           =$695
Engine             =$1700
Motor shipping =$250
Gasket kit         =$120
Relay update     =$250
Clutch kit          =$350
Starter              =$190
Fan fix module =$160
Slave cylinder  =$20
Fuel distrib      =$350
O2 sensor        =$40
EST labor         =$2,000
New hoses        =$40
New thermostat =$25
New belts          =$17
Optima Battery  =$137
New fuse box    =$100
Rebuilt alt.         =$60
Led lighting       =$35		
Gas tank cleaned=$45


Current total  = $15,684.00 &  I've never driven it!




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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 15:55:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Enid/Jeremiah <hispanicangeleyes_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Horrible Idle problem

Best thing you can do without a dwellmeter is unplug
the lambda sensor behind the driver's seat.  Once you
do that, start your car and lean it until it almost
literally dies right there, then start to enrichen it.
 Enrichen it until it runs smoothly, but be cautious
enriching too much.  You can fry spark plugs or do
other far more serious damage.


		
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:05:00 -0000
From: "austinbrumley" <austinbrumley_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Re: Cincinnati DeLorean Tech Session, Sept 12th

Josh the following is a list of what i've had to do to my car since i 
bought it.

Delorean restoration tally.
1983 Delorean   = $9,100 
Shipping           =$695
Engine             =$1700
Motor shipping =$250
Gasket kit         =$120
Relay update     =$250
Clutch kit          =$350
Starter              =$190
Fan fix module =$160
Slave cylinder  =$20
Fuel distrib      =$350
O2 sensor        =$40
EST labor         =$2,000
New hoses        =$40
New thermostat =$25
New belts          =$17
Optima Battery  =$137
New fuse box    =$100
Rebuilt alt.         =$60
Led lighting       =$35		
Gas tank cleaned=$45


Current total  = $15,684.00

And thats with out new carpet or seat covers & god knows what else. 
If i towed it up there could you guys lend a helping hand?

Thanks Austin
Vin #16182




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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 19:42:22 EDT
From: doctorDHD_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Electronic Speedo

Dave S.  I read your post that said...

RPM (hint - this could drive an electronic speedo!!)  >>

Can you elaborate on your hint as it seems that the output of the "generator" 
which is indeed a function of vehicle speed, gets decrased by the 
potentiometer connected to it and the throttle cable .  There seems to me no reasonable 
way to get the raw speed data.  

Dave D 



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:38:36 -0400
From: "Vicky Miller" <delo1_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: More shameless ebay store self promotion...


Hi ! Lets clear the confusion......the couch belongs to ME.

 bob miller




> [Original Message]
> From: Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman_at_dml_fuse.net>
> Subject: Re: [DML] More shameless ebay store self promotion...
>
> It was going to be installed on the 1984 model cars. (haha)
>
> I guess that's what I get for starting an ebay store...now everybody I 
> know wants me to put their crap up for sale on there.
>
> I'll make you a deal.  If you buy a LH front fender, I'll throw the 
> couch in for free!  (haha)
>
> Take care man,
> Josh



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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 01:40:17 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Vacuum questions

There is a vacuum resovoir in the same space that the charchol
canister lives in (over the left rear wheel in the pontoon). In fact
you have to remove the canister to get at it. It's main purpose is to
supply vacuum for short periods of time to keep the actuators for the
A/C and heat from moving during acceleration when the vacuum from the
motor isn't available. I would suspect it is leaking and/or not
connected or maybe the check valve is not holding (maybe it isn't even
there). The charchol canister is supposed to trap fumes from the gas
tank when the car is not running. When the motor is running (supplying
vacuum) it is supposed to send the fumes into the motor to be burned.
There is a filter on the bottom. Snap off the bottom of the canister,
the part where the hose attaches, and you will find the filter. You
can get it in the local auto store or just shake it out. Make sure the
hose that attaches to the bottom plastic cover is not plugged up. For
the operation of the thermal vacuum valve in the coolant pipe just
look it up in the Workshop Manual. If you still have the vacuum label
on the underside of the engine cover it shows how it is hooked up.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> Where -exactly- is the check valve that maintains vacuum for the A/C 
> duct flapper?
> 
> When I firewall the throttle, I lose so much vacuum the flapper 
> shuts, cutting off my airflow. Also, no matter what position the 
> flapper is in when I shut the car off, vacuum leaks and the flap 
> falls to the shut position.
> 
> Also, please remind me of the operation of the thermal 3-port vacuum 
> switch in the coolant distribution pipe:
> 
> 1. Describe the different modes of operation _at_dml_ different temps.
> 2. 1 line goes to the vacuum advance solenoid.
> 3. 1 line goes to the intake nipple for a vacuum source.
> 4. 1 line goes ????
> 
> How does the charcoal evaporative cannister fit into all this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Rich A.




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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:00:37 -0400
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: Car Show/Fund Raiser in NJ


Hi everyone!  A fellow Delorean Enthusiast in NJ contacted the Delorean
Mid-Atlantic Club about a great event coming up in October.  It's a
classic car show, but what makes this one soooo much better then most
other ones is that proceeds are to go to the American Cancer Society!

Details, contacts, and registration info for the show can be found on
our club web page:
http://www.deloreanmidatlantic.com/updates/updates.htm

Let's try to have a great turnout, and raise some money for a good
cause!

Kevin Abato
Vin# 16680


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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:30:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: kevin creason <kcreason77_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: steering wheel removal

I saw two mechanics do it this way:
take the nut off, one pulls on the wheel and the other
uses a pneumatic chisel with a dull bit to hit the
middle of the column.
Apparently, it bounces it right off, but knocks the
mechanic pulling about a bit.


--- Michael T Twigger <marktwigger_at_dml_juno.com> wrote:

> How do you remove the steering wheel?



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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:37:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: kevin creason <kcreason77_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Vin#1790 Alaskan Delorean?

I looked into that, since I lived there in my pre-DMC
days.
As best as anyone knows, they were bought "outside"
and shipped "in".
I've always thought that there were at least two, but
was never sure. One was painted red and later stripped
back down by a member of the list. AFAIK, he's still
up there with it.

I wonder if yours was the one that I drooled on in my
neighborhood as a kid... pre '88, in Anchorage.


--- motarhedd_at_dml_aol.com wrote:

> Hey Folks,
> 
> i was just going through my NADA carfax, and
> realized that the first entry 
> was a title lien from 1988 in Soldotna, Alaska. it
> was renewed again in '91. 
> then in '95 shows up in Florida.
> 
> this just makes me wonder where it could have
> originated from. were there any 
> shipments to Alaskan dealers? or maybe Canadian?
> Just another interesting 
> thing about my D to follow up on.
> 
> any far north owners out there?
> 
> Thanks,
> Russell N.
> vin#1790
> "Have DMC Will Travel"
> 
> 
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 05:22:07 -0000
From: "miller99501" <kamiller_at_dml_gci.net>
Subject: Re: Vin#1790 Alaskan Delorean?

Hey Russell
There was no dealer selling D's here, most of them were brought up 
from the lower 48. There are about 10 of them here, with the most of 
them in Anchorage. 


one of the 10 
Kevin 
#4556 



-- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, motarhedd_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Hey Folks,
> 
> i was just going through my NADA carfax, and realized that the 
first entry 
> was a title lien from 1988 in Soldotna, Alaska. it was renewed 
again in '91. 
> then in '95 shows up in Florida.
> 
> this just makes me wonder where it could have originated from. 
were there any 
> shipments to Alaskan dealers? or maybe Canadian? Just another 
interesting 
> thing about my D to follow up on.
> 
> any far north owners out there?
> 
> Thanks,
> Russell N.
> vin#1790
> "Have DMC Will Travel"
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 9:34:47 +0100
From: "Michiel.bohmer" <michiel.bohmer_at_dml_infram.nl>
Subject: Re: Auto Trans Shift Points

Hello Dave,

I'm reading the discussion about changing the shift points of the automatic
transmission with greast interest. You stated the following:

"You might be able to fake it into shifting a little bit later by
pulling the throttle input cable all the way up, but conversly it would
downshift sooner too."

I was wondering if this procedure won't destruct the construction of
Govenor. As I recall you adjust the cable by full throttle and then you have
to stay away something like 0,3 mm to a little pin that holds the lever on
the govenor to a maximun travel. If you keep pulling the cable, won't it
break that pin? And can the lever be turned more then this "end point pin"
indicates?

Otherwise it would be a very easy job to change the shift points. At least a
little?

Regards,

Michiel Bohmer
#4349




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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 12:54:00 +0200 (CEST)
From: klaus.steiner_at_dml_t-online.de
Subject: Re: swimming pool

> Message: 18        
>    Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 10:18:55 -0700 (PDT)
>    From: jordan rubin <nuttenschleuder_at_dml_yahoo.com>
> Subject: AC Temp readings
> 
> Hello,
Pictures of Jordan draining his car are here:

http://www.steinerklaus.de/dmc/ogp2004/index.htm

Klaus 
05980 - Germany

> 
>  Today my drain hose for the AC was repaired and
> the swimming pool in the passanger side is gone. 
> Thanks to the DCD folks at Nurburg ring for finding
> the problem this weekend. (I thought it was a leak
> from the rain weve been having)
> 
> Jordan
> 11613



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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:03:54 -0000
From: "Richard" <dmc_driver_at_dml_yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: Turn signals/hazzard lights not working

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Martin Gutkowski - DMUK <martin_at_dml_d...>
wrote:
> Did you replace the flasher relay with one from a DeLorean
specialist? 
> Our experiences this side of the pond are such that generic 3-pin
ones 
> don't work in the DeLorean. I've not investigated why, but it's a 
> starting point. I'm surprised the fuse hasn't blown. When you say
the 
> indicators come on but don't flash - do you mean the actual
indicators, 
> or that the front parking lights come on?
> 
> Martin
> 


Hi Martin,

I used Knut's "Find DMC Part" program and it gave me a cross-reference
to a Volvo 1259615-1 and picked one up a a local auto supply store. 
Comparing it to the original one, the SAE numbers are identical, as
are the values next to each of the pins where it plugs in.  Also, I
meant that the actual bulbs light up (but only if the headlights are
on).  They just don't flash.  The rear ones don't work at all but the
bulbs are fine.  The indicators on the dash are completely dead. 
Moving the lever either way doesn't do anything.  I'll probably just
order the proper module from the vendors anyway, but I think the
problem is with something else.  There's a large black resistor near
where the flasher relay plugs in and I'm wondering if it's blown. 
Can't tell what rating it is because the numbers on it are rubbed off.

Of course, I could have avoided all this if only I had remembered to
take the battery back out of the car again before putting things back
together.  Another lesson learned the hard way, I guess.  

Richard
5853




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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:35:15 -0000
From: "Elias Pierro" <dmc-delorean_at_dml_web.de>
Subject: Where lives John DeLorean now ?

Hello!
Knows anybody where John DeLorean now lives ?

Thanks for answers !

Elias
www.dmc-delorean.de




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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:07:33 -0400
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: RE: John DeLorean's Former Estate

Kinda like "Old Man Peabody's Farm" that was turned into a Mall.  ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: DmcGman_at_dml_comcast.net [mailto:DmcGman_at_dml_comcast.net] 
Subject: [DML] John DeLorean's Former Estate


Just thought I would share this with the group.  I was at John
DeLorean's former estate today in Bedminster NJ, which is now the Trump
International Golf Club.  The golf course is really something.



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