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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 2263
Date: Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:18 AM

There are 14 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Update to anyone who has conntacted me about VIN 5898
From: "Jason" <>

2. AW: Re: Radio Upgrade
From: "Elvis Nocita" <>

3. Nothing up my sleeves...
From: "cruznmd" <>

4. Re: Funny sound behind dash?
From: "David Teitelbaum" <>

5. Re: The last place you Looked - Side stripes
From: "Stephen Card" <>

6. Re: Lockzilla or WingsAloft???
From: Chris Almy <>

7. Re: Nothing up my sleeves...
From: "David Teitelbaum" <>

8. Radio Upgrade
From: "bluemax86" <>

9. DML archive

10. Re: Re: Radio Upgrade
From: "Jake Kamphoefner" <>

11. RE: Archive (I'm doing something about it)
From: "Gene Caldwell" <>

12. Re: Turn signals/hazzard lights not working
From: "Richard" <>

13. headlight blackout covers
From: "stangboy70us" <>

14. DeLorean needed in NY

Message: 1
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 18:22:02 -0500
From: "Jason" <>
Subject: Re: Update to anyone who has conntacted me about VIN 5898

           Nothing here really. Just noticed that this is the closest vin to
mine that I've seen yet. That's it.

                                      Jason #5903

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mydmc5898" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 9:20 PM
Subject: [DML] Update to anyone who has conntacted me about VIN 5898

> Hi, this is just to update on the progress of my auto to 5-speed. My
> computer went down not long ago, and to make a long story short I
> lost a lot of emails I saved. Anyway the auto tranny is still in the
> car. It went in Monday and the work should begin soon. So as soon as
> the tranny and other parts come out to fit the 5-speed. I will try
> and find anyone who was interested and let you know the shipping
> cost. Since I don't know the full condition of the tranny and other
> parts I don't have any real set prices. So please don't think I blew
> anyone off, I just haven't had much time between work and school.
> Thanks for your time,
> Darryl
> VIN 5898


Message: 2
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 23:36:55 +0200
From: "Elvis Nocita" <>
Subject: AW: Re: Radio Upgrade

The original front speakers aren't that bad. Instead I would say
you have a hard time finding better ones that fit in there and sound better.

Just get new original ones for a few bucks and try them.
I wanted to replace mine because I thought they don't sound that good.
Bought 2 way speakers that I had to make fit first. Weren't cheap at all,
but didn't sound as good. Instead they originals are even louder due to the
lighter membrane.

At the end I guess that the old radio (aftermarket) was the problem
not the speakers.

Elvis & 6548

--- In, Chris Pilcic <chrisdmc82_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> I am as well putting a new stereo in the car... after a recent trip
> to indiana from saint louis.. I discovered i need a new one... I am
> right now trying to find front speakers that will fit without pushing
> up the dash... The problem i am finding is all of them have tweeters
> that are too big... anybody know what works?  As for the back I plan
> on rebuilding the back wall... and keeping the orig. and putting new
> speakers in there... facing the front of the car.. also XM radio is in
> the works... oh and as for the ant... mine doesn't work either... the
> motor is out...

[long quote trimmed by moderator]


Message: 3
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 00:41:56 -0000
From: "cruznmd" <>
Subject: Nothing up my sleeves...

Tonight I ran down to the base autoshop again and finally replaced 
my accumulator. (My wife's going to forget what I look like since 
I'm down there so much)

This is another job that some people make sound near impossible 
except for DeLorean One-ordained high-priests and lay-persons. If 
that's true then just call me the pope.

The biggest problem is access and leverage. Stubby wrenches are the 
key. For anyone who's been considering tackling this job, on the 
very bottom of the fuel parts page at, is a link 
complete with photos of exactly how to do the job.

By the way, is there a good replacement for the adhesive foam 
padding that wraps around the accumulator? The new one didn't come 
with it. I had to salvage the old one as best as I could.


Rich A.


Message: 4
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:29:02 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <>
Subject: Re: Funny sound behind dash?

Just a wild guess but the logic module for the key-in-ignition buzzer
is above the steering column just under the dash. Pull the ignition
key out or close the door, if the noise goes away that is what it is.
Other possible sources in that area is the flasher and the wiper module.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757

--- In, "John Rydholm" <ebondefender_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> Recently I read a post about a strange buzzing sound behind the 
> dashboard. However I couldn't find the original message. Could 
> anyone please enlighten me as to what this sound is? It's a strange, 
> faintly-quiet buzzing sound. It seems to becoming from somewhere in 
> between the luggage compartment and the console. None of my warning 
> lights were on, and I also had the fan and A/C unit off. Whut in 
> tarnation iz it?? Thanks! :)
> -Johnny


Message: 5
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:29:11 -0000
From: "Stephen Card" <>
Subject: Re: The last place you Looked - Side stripes

Nope, Check out John Hervey's set. 
under "Delorean Parts New"
Vin 3601

> The repros from tlpyl were only $120... your only source now, 
> unfortunately, looks to be VideoBob.
> James LaLonde 004009


Message: 6
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:57:59 -0700
From: Chris Almy <>
Subject: Re: Lockzilla or WingsAloft???

Sorry, I should have been more specific. The actuators are a great product 
and do prevent one of the major problems with the door lock controller. If 
I hadn't rebuilt one of the solenoids a month before Toby offered the 
upgrade, I would have bought them myself. The reason why I didn't suggest 
them to the original poster was because he wanted a simple solution. To me 
this means keeping the solenoids. Removing the door panels isn't simple or 
easy the first time around.

However, there's still the problem of how much standby current the lock 
controller uses. While probably not a problem for a daily driver, it still 
takes way more current then necessary. Regardless, nobody should be using 
the original controller with the solenoids. They should either rebuild it, 
replace it with a LockZilla, or simply disconnect it.

VIN 4099

At 07:19 PM 10/6/2004 +0000, you wrote:
>Not necessarily. The problems with the stock door lock controller stem
>primarily from it's being overloaded - the stock lock solenoids simply
>draw a LOT of power which the relays on the controller can't handle.
>If your module is currently working, it is a better idea to replace
>the lock solenoids instead of the control module. The stock lock
>solenoids are heavy, power hungry, and expensive at $110+ a piece if
>(not when) you have to replace them. For $100 total, you can get a
>pair of brand new linear actuators to replace the solenoids in both
>doors and some outboard relays to drive them - meaning your stock lock
>module will no longer be overloaded and should last the life of the
>car. This has the added benefit of reducing the strain on your door
>torsion bars & struts, reducing the strain on the electrical system,
>and it's a quarter the cost of replacing your lock module & solenoids.
>This kit is sold by as the "Wings-A-Loft Door
>Lock Actuator Upgrade", part #K2500DP. (direct link:


Message: 7
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 03:30:26 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <>
Subject: Re: Nothing up my sleeves...

It isn't that terrible a job. The big thing is not to twist the metal
lines. You do that and you'll wish you had someone else do the job
instead! The little rubber hose comes off easily. The 4 screws holding
the accumulater usually come out easy. The one hard fitting is the
rigid one. After that you pull the acumulater out and loosen the other
fitting. Be careful not to get gas in your face, eyes, mouth. I
recomend after a short time of driving you should replace the fuel
filter, I have seen chunks of the rubber diaghram coming out of the
lines after removing the acumulater so you can assume they are in the
filter too. Having small hands does make the job easier as do the
proper wrenches. A lift is a lot nicer than lying on your back on a
creeper too! The materiel I usually find wrapped around the acumulater
is a strip of rubber. If it is in bad shape just cut a strip out of an
old inner tube.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757

--- In, "cruznmd" <racuti1_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> Tonight I ran down to the base autoshop again and finally replaced 
> my accumulator. (My wife's going to forget what I look like since 
> I'm down there so much)
> This is another job that some people make sound near impossible 
> except for DeLorean One-ordained high-priests and lay-persons. If 
> that's true then just call me the pope.


Message: 8
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 02:25:07 -0000
From: "bluemax86" <>
Subject: Radio Upgrade

I replaced my front speakers with 3 1/2 inch Alpines. They had
tweeters but did not stick up past the lip so they fit perfectly.
Depending on what you want to do, I added a custom built shelp behind
the seats and added 2 6 x 9 Eclipse speakers and 2 10" Eclipse
Subwoofers in the customer shelf. I also left the stock radio in and
added and Alpine unit in the custom unit between the seats. Then I
added another set of front speakers in some kick panels. I have 2
Kicker amps (1 800 amp and 1 400 amp) in the trunk and a capacitor to
drive the subwoofers. All in all I like the setup, great lound sound
with good quality.



Message: 9
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 01:01:47 EDT
Subject: DML archive

Ryan -

You've done a terrific service to the DML with your archive. Thank you from 
those of us who search first, and ask questions later.

Jay S.
83 vin 16900
81 vin 01001

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 23:01:44 -0500
From: "Jake Kamphoefner" <>
Subject: Re: Re: Radio Upgrade

Or....if you act now... Don't delay!!  Quantities are running out!  :-)

(Ok, not really)

A five-minute Internet search will reveal these Pioneer TS-877 speakers, 3
1/2 inch, 40W, flush mount, including the tweeters for about $20.

Find them here:

And here:

I think I'm going to try this set in 1063, as is (I think) the original
poster of this message, Chris Pilcic in 10882.

Jake Kamphoefner
Thinking: for 20 bucks they're worth a shot...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Videobob Moseley" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 5:52 PM
Subject: RE: [DML] Re: Radio Upgrade

> I agree with this, but for those of you not willing to make the investment
> or the changes I have a
> solution for the front dash speakers at least.
> I have found some decent 3 1/2" speakers that will fit in the dash that do
> not have tweeters
> in the middle. They have a nice mid sound and are much better than the
> original and will
> fit without modification.
> The best part is that they are CHEAP!
> I can sell you a set for only $29.99 including the shipping.
> I will add them to my website soon, or you can contact me directly.


Message: 11
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 02:51:55 -0400
From: "Gene Caldwell" <>
Subject: RE: Archive (I'm doing something about it)

Ryan, WAY TO GO!  Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: ryanpwright [] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 6:52 PM
Subject: [DML] Archive (I'm doing something about it)

> OK, I'm not the only one who has had problems searching this list and
> finding archived items. It's always annoyed me but now that I know it
> also annoys others, I've done something about it.
> Behold the DMCNews Mailing List Archive:
> Beginning immediately, all new messages to this group will be
> automatically archived there without my having to do a thing. They
> will be sorted by month, then further sorted by thread, and the whole
> darn thing will be fully searchable as soon as I get a proper search
> engine online (give me a week or two - there aren't any messages in it
> now, anyway).
> This process is fully automated. Which means it should always work and
> always be up to date - no waiting on me.
> Enjoy...
> -Ryan

[moderator snip]


Message: 12
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 08:40:35 -0000
From: "Richard" <>
Subject: Re: Turn signals/hazzard lights not working

--- In, "Roland Smith" <roland_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> How do we acquire this program?
> Roland Smith
> Oakland, California
> 6667
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard" <dmc_driver_at_dml_y...>

> > I used Knut's "Find DMC Part" program and it gave me a cross-reference
> > to a Volvo 1259615-1 and picked one up a a local auto supply store.
> > Comparing it to the original one, the SAE numbers are identical, as

I downloaded it from <Downloads>

or you can get it here:



Message: 13
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 12:40:47 -0000
From: "stangboy70us" <>
Subject: headlight blackout covers

I have been looking all over for these covers?  Can anyone PLEASE 
help me find a set or direct me to someone that sells them?  Thanks 
in advance.

Rick #17160


Message: 14
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 08:07:14 EDT
Subject: DeLorean needed in NY


I got this email this morning.  Maybe someone in the NY area could help them 

I am writing from a university office for student affairs from just outside 
New York City.  We are looking for a DeLorean owner and driver who would be 
interested in "renting" their automobile (to be driven by the owner) for our 
university homecoming parade.  This is a new, time-sensitive idea based on the 
fact that a DeLorean would be conducive to our theme (1980s) so if there is any 
interest we would very much like to hear from you shortly.  All travel expenses 
(including overnight accommodations) and services would be compensated by the 
university.  The event will be Saturday, October 16th.
Please reply if there is interest.  If not, apologies for the bother.

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