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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 2287
Date: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:25 AM

There are 3 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Old John DeLorean Commerical
From: "therealdmcvegas" <>

2. Re: Re: DeLorean Handling

3. Re: Re: DeLorean Handling

Message: 1
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 01:34:26 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <>
Subject: Old John DeLorean Commerical

While searching around on the internet, I found this snippet over on
DIY Network's website:

The 1968 Pontiac GTO was the first car to offer polyurethane bumper
covers. The bumpers were introduced in a memorable television campaign
with an ad featuring John DeLorean attacking a GTO bumper with a
sledge hammer."

Does anyone have this video? I'd really like to see this if possible.
And would love even more a screen cap of JZD beating the hell out of a
GM car for my desktop! ;)

vin 6585 "X"


Message: 2
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 02:01:44 +0000
Subject: Re: Re: DeLorean Handling

DeLoreans are easy to spin.  Just go into a turn at high speed, lift 
off the throttle quickly and tap the brakes.  A couple of years ago,
Bruce Benson and I wrote an article comparing the DeLorean to
my 1983 Lotus Esprit Turbo.  I think it was printed in the DMCH
magazine in the last year or two.  Anyway, in that article I did a 
handling comparison of the two cars on a stretch of road near
my house.  

Every few years, the county resurfaces the roads by putting down 
a layer of oil followed by loose gravel.  The theory is that the gravel 
is pressed into the oil by traffic.  Since it covers the entire road, they 
put small plastic reflectors down the center line to mark the lanes - 
instant slalom.  Another feature of the gravel is that it collects in a 
ridge along the center of the road.  Slaloming over the ridge gets
the rear of the car light on a low friction surface.  There was a 
marked difference between the mid-engined Esprit and the rear
engined DeLorean on identical tires (Yokohama AVS Intermediates).
The Esprit was much quicker through the gates and much more
planted.  Both cars were predictable, but you could really feel 
that weight behind the rear axel.


-------------- Original message from "David Teitelbaum" : -------------- 

> I have pushed my car hard and never lost it in a turn but I have new 
> tires and never tried it in the rain. I suspect you could probably 
> push it over the edge because it would not give you any warning just 
> before you lose it, unlike most stock cars with much better weight 
> distribution. This is not a recomendation to try anything stupid, it 
> is just that a Delorean can corner a whole lot better than most 
> anything that most drivers are familiar with. With it's low center of 
> gravity and it's large rear footprint a Delorean can achieve higher 
> cornering forces than your daily driver. Wet pavement, gravel, an oil 
> spot, and all bets are off! Of course because you are so low to the 
> ground you get the illusion of traveling faster than you think. Kind 
> of like driving a Go-Kart! 
> David Teitelbaum 
> vin 10757 

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 02:11:30 +0000
Subject: Re: Re: DeLorean Handling

I'm not sure I agree that a rear weight bias is easier to catch than
a mid or front weight bias, particularly with the DeLorean because
it is almost impossible to steer with the throttle.  Coupled with a
light front end, once it goes, it's gone.


-------------- Original message from "LJScarlet2" : -------------- 

> Handling? Who had time to think about the handling? I was fearing 
> for my life--and screaming! Plus, that burning rubber smell really 
> demands your attention. 
> In all fairness to Marc, and to his lovely vehicle, it was nothing 
> but pure driving skill coupled with a slow-to-fishtail car that 
> stopped us from plowing backwards into an SUV. 
> In normal driving conditions, I have found the cornering to be quite 
> good. Then again, I drive like a grandma ;) 
> And, if my car has to spin, I'd rather the weight be in the back 
> because it is easier for you to regain control since it is less 
> disorienting than if the front was pushing the spin. 

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