From: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [DML] Digest Number 2651
Date: Thursday, June 02, 2005 12:36 PM

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Fuel Pump Problem
From: "Marv Hein" <marvhein_at_dml_hotmail.com>

2. ebay delorean
From: "alex morgan" <mauibarber_at_dml_hotmail.com>

3. Spielberg interested in making Delorean movie
From: "bravoracer" <kingme8_at_dml_hotmail.com>

4. RE: Insurance?
From: "Kermit Poling" <KPoling_at_dml_Bellsouth.net>

5. Re: Insurance?
From: "Jake Kamphoefner" <jakekamp_at_dml_sbcglobal.net>

6. not much air from defrost vent
From: "dmcmike2002" <billsfanmd_at_dml_verizon.net>

7. Rear Wheel Squeak
From: "sweetp01569" <paul.sweet_at_dml_fmglobal.com>

8. Re: USAA Insurance
From: "Robert Lingo" <rlingo_at_dml_midsouth.rr.com>

9. Re: ebay delorean
From: mike.griese_at_dml_worldnet.att.net

10. RE: USAA Insurance
From: "Travis Goodwin" <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>

11. Re: Insurance?
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

12. Re: Value of a "restored" DeLorean
From: <eric_at_dml_seviernet.com>

13. Re: ebay delorean
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>

14. Re: Rear Wheel Squeak
From: Warren Wallingford <warren_at_dml_usadmc.com>

15. Re: Rear Wheel Squeak
From: "sweetp01569" <paul.sweet_at_dml_fmglobal.com>

16. Warranty (was: Value of a "restored" DeLorean)
From: "James" <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

17. Frame-up restorations/refurbished cars (was: Value of a "restored" DeLorean)
From: "James" <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

18. Re: Insurance
From: Travis Graham <tgraham_at_dml_noroads.com>

19. Re: Rear Wheel Squeak
From: "dmcmike2002" <billsfanmd_at_dml_verizon.net>

20. AC blows intermittently
From: "Greg Linstad" <glinstad_at_dml_aseptico.com>

21. Re: Frame-up restorations/refurbished cars
From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj_at_dml_yahoo.com>

22. Insurance mis-statement?
From: "Cecil Longwisch" <dmc1982_at_dml_msn.com>

23. Re: AC blows intermittently
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

24. Re: AC blows intermittently
From: "Mike Bosworth" <mike.bosworth_at_dml_btinternet.com>

25. New Gull Wing Mercedes
From: Jordan Gary <jordan_at_dml_investmentplanner.net>





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 03:43:15 -0000
From: "Marv Hein" <marvhein_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Pump Problem

Corey,


Chris is right, if you have a voltmeter and a large paperclip for the 
RPM relay jumper, it won't take long to diagnose.  

In case you don't have the manual for the car, maybe this will help.  
I spent a long time tracking stuff down, even with the manual.

1) I can't recall if fuse 7 is numbered at the fuse box but it is the 
middle fuse in the row closest to the front.

2) SpecialTAuto.com has a good diagram of a jumper for the RPM relay 
and a photo of the relay itself.  This relay is the farthest to the 
rear of three large relays that extend from front to back.  The front 
one is located just aft and left of the fuse box.  My RPM relay hangs 
at the end of a extender wire... not sure they all do.

3) The inertia switch is on the left wall under the driver's side 
dash. 

4) If you need help finding any of this stuff, feel free to drop me 
email off-thread and I'll walk you through it on the phone or I can 
send you some digital photos. 

I just went through all of this myself and it did prove to be my 
pump.  If it also proves to be your fuel pump and it's pretty new,  
you might consider a heat shield between the radiator and the fuel 
tank.  I nearly lost my new replacement pump the first week due to 
overheating due to radiator air drawn by the fans heating the gas 
tank to extreme temps. (I put a temp probe on the tank and saw it 
happen.)  A shield has really cleaned that problem up.

Marv
#10820


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Chris Almy <chris.almy_at_dml_c...> wrote:
> There are several components to the fuel pump circuit that can 
cause this. 
> Let's start at beginning of the circuit:
> 
> Number 7 fuse - Is the fuse good? Contacts clean? Fuse box melted? 
If the 
> contacts are dirty, it can cause excessive heat which will melt the 
fuse 
> box and break the circuit.
> 




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 04:24:33 +0000
From: "alex morgan" <mauibarber_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: ebay delorean

It must have been some kind of fire to salvage the car.  Also, why was the 
clutch replaced if it only has 15,000 miles?  Was there excessive rust 
underneath the car.  It makes me nervous not seeing any underbody shots.  
Did the car drive well, start well and smooth?  I really really appreciate 
all this info you've given.  And just so I'm clear the trailing arm bolts 
were replaced with safer ones?
Thanks again,
Alex






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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 03:45:38 -0000
From: "bravoracer" <kingme8_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Spielberg interested in making Delorean movie

In the new June 2005 issue of the British import magazine "Car". It says that Steven 
Spielberg is seriously interested in making a Delorean movie. There is also a large 6 page 
article about John Delorean, and the Delorean automobile in that same issue.






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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 23:42:30 -0500
From: "Kermit Poling" <KPoling_at_dml_Bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: Insurance?

>>You can't go to the store, mall, and  never can you drive it to work
or school!<<

One of my main reasons in choosing Hagerty was that they allow me to
drive the car essentially anywhere, as long as I don't drive more than
7,000 miles each calendar year.  I specifically discussed this issue
with their agent, making clear that from time to time I just wanted to
be able to drive the car and not be limited as to the destination.  They
were very informative and agreeable.  Also, we set an agreed value on
the car and this can be updated at any time.  They also allow for the
car to be transported to my mechanic/shop of choice in the event of an
accident. They did require pictures of the car and where I keep it.
Hopefully I will never have to test their coverage, but they seem very
knowledgeable, reasonable and willing to let me drive the car.
KP
4547








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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 00:06:30 -0500
From: "Jake Kamphoefner" <jakekamp_at_dml_sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Insurance?

Ryan,

This is a thread that comes up a lot, so I'll try to be quick:  I've got a 
policy with State Farm.  The rates are essentially the same as on my normal 
car.  They are just slightly higher because I did an agreed value policy of 
about $20K (I don't remember the exact number, but they let me choose it). 
They've always been fair with me, but I've never had an accident -and my 
agent is a personal friend :-)

Jake Kamphoefner and 1063,
Both 24 years old to the month
11 Speeding tickets as of last week
1 very wealthy traffic lawyer
1 clean driving record  :-P




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ryan Wright" <ryanpwright_at_dml_gmail.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] Insurance?


> So then, for those of us who drive our DeLoreans daily, where do you
> go for insurance?
>





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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:47:55 -0000
From: "dmcmike2002" <billsfanmd_at_dml_verizon.net>
Subject: not much air from defrost vent

Have not posted in along time as my car luckily has had few problems. 
One thing that I wanted to get help with is how to fix/check. The
path 
to my defrost vent. Last year I had my entire dash apart to restore
my 
my a/c. The only thing that we may have to doublke check is if I 
messeud up something with the defrost door. I know that none of them 
blow a lot but mine seems to be really weak. Its not my fan as I get 
plenty of air on other settings. Is there an easy way to look up and 
correct whatever door is not opening correctly. We cleaned and 
lubricated each door as we reassembled. Hopefully its something
simple 
to fix cause I dont feel like taking it all apart again :-)

Mike C
2109







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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:53:39 -0000
From: "sweetp01569" <paul.sweet_at_dml_fmglobal.com>
Subject: Rear Wheel Squeak

I haven't pulled the drivers's side wheel off yet, but as I am rolling 
slowly without the brakes (which also squeak, but not worried about 
that at the moment), a high frequency squeak or squeal is produced as 
the wheel rolls.  Not very loud, but enough to concern me.  Are there 
bearings I need to possibly replace or grease?  The car has 26,000 
miles on it.

Thanks,

Paul







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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 01:20:01 -0500
From: "Robert Lingo" <rlingo_at_dml_midsouth.rr.com>
Subject: Re: USAA Insurance

Thanks for the good info. Bill. I will investigate further.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <bill.schafer_at_dml_us.army.mil>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:45 PM
Subject: [DML] USAA Insurance


> Robert,
>
>  You better check your USAA coverage carefully. I have been with them 
> since 1970 and this year was the first time I got into a lengthy 
> conversation with them about actual coverage amounts on my 1982 DeLorean. 
> From the best I can tell they will not pay replacement value but the value 




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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:06:48 +0000
From: mike.griese_at_dml_worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: ebay delorean

It doesn't take much of a fire to write off a car.  I have seen
cars with minor under-dash "fires" totalled because of the
cost of replacing the wiring harness, accessories, and any
piece of fabric in the interior because of smoke damage.
No scorched paint, no damage to the dash itself.

--
Mike


-------------- Original message from "alex morgan" <mauibarber_at_dml_hotmail.com>: -------------- 


> It must have been some kind of fire to salvage the car. 

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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 09:02:07 -0400
From: "Travis Goodwin" <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>
Subject: RE: USAA Insurance

That's the very reason I only carry liability. Comprehensive is too
expensive for a car that I only drive 250 miles a year. 

Mine's with State Farm and it $400 a year.

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com [mailto:dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of bill.schafer_at_dml_us.army.mil
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:45 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] USAA Insurance

Robert,

  You better check your USAA coverage carefully. I have been with them
since 1970 and this year was the first time I got into a lengthy
conversation with them about actual coverage amounts on my 1982
DeLorean. From the best I can tell they will not pay replacement value
but the value their adjusters think the car to be worth. I asked them to
give me a dollar figure and they couldn't do it. It sounds like no
matter what the condition your car is in they will only pay the average
condition selling price. 





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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:14:42 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Insurance?

This insurance thread comes up again and again. Because insurance
rules, limits, and coverages vary so much State to State there is no
blanket answer. Generally collector insurance is a better deal if you
can live with the limitiations. In all cases you have to understand
what will happen if the car was to "disappear". Do you get "Agreed
Value" or some arbitrary amount an adjuster makes a wild guess at?
Talk to others in your State about where they insure their cars and
what experience they have. You will meet them at car shows and cruise
nights. Adding a Delorean to your existing auto policy is not a good
idea. They usually go by "book" value and you could wind up with
$5,000 (less the deductable!) and no car. The car could get totaled
out for what could be fixable damage. In many States once a car is
totaled it gets a salvage title and can no longer be registered and
driven on public roads in that State. Grundy, Hagerty, and Taylor are
some of the larger companies that insure collector cars. Call them all
and get a quote. Ask them to work from an "Agreed Value" of $20,000.
You may decide to actually insure for a lesser value but get the
quotes anyway. State Farm and Allstate in many States won't even
insure Deloreans. Be sure to understand the rules and limitations. In
most cases you have a limit on the amount of miles you can drive a
year and you have to have another car you use for daily driving. There
is a BIG difference in premiums too. Collector insurance will cost
around $3-400 a year.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Cecil Longwisch" <dmc1982_at_dml_m...> wrote:
> This is an old, but continues to be an important thread. The
coverage is superior by collector car carriers but the limitations are
exacting and restricting.
> Those that choose to go the collector car insurance provider, please
remember that all of these that I am aware of do not allow you to d






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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 10:18:49 -0400
From: <eric_at_dml_seviernet.com>
Subject: Re: Value of a "restored" DeLorean

I am not sure that James Espey stated one way or the other about the
restoration work of the other DeLorean specialists- did I miss something?

Eric Itzel
vin 4433

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marc Levy" <malevy_nj_at_dml_yahoo.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:09 PM
Subject: [DML] Value of a "restored" DeLorean


> I am not sure why a DeLorean restored by DMCH is any
> better (or worse) than Dave Swingle, Rich Weissensel,
> Rob Grady, or even DeLorean One...
>





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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:23:40 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_dmcnews.com>
Subject: Re: ebay delorean

Recall that this fire occurred in 1985. While localized under the 
dash, smoke damage would have permeated all the "soft" parts of the 
interior. In 1985 there were no cheap "used" parts available, and the 
cost of replacing an **entire** interior including the radio panel,
A/C, and wiring harness with new parts (which at that time were
 thought unavailable) was prohibitive enough to write the car off.
 (Remember the other economics of the time - this was an orphan car
 from a recently defunct company. Most shops would not even touch
 them.) This was also a period of time where the parts were much
harder to obtain than they are now. 


At this point you'd be hard pressed to find any evidence of this 
damage on the car. 

Regarding the clutch, as the car had not been driven in 20 years the 
clutch disk had frozen to the flywheel, the bearing to the trans 
shaft, and all the clutch and brake hydraulics were completely 
jammed. The clutch was by no means worn out. This was the first car 
I've ever seen where, when I got in, all three pedals would not move 
(had to replace the throttle cable too!).

It drives fine now, although about what you'd expect (stiff) for a 
car with 25-year-old Girling shocks. 

Dave S


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, mike.griese_at_dml_w... wrote:
> It doesn't take much of a fire to write off a car.  I have seen
> cars with minor under-dash "fires" totalled because of the
> cost of replacing the wiring harness, accessories, and any
> piece of fabric in the interior because of smoke damage.
> No scorched paint, no damage to the dash itself.
> 
> --
> Mike
> 
> 
> -------------- Original message from "alex morgan" 
<mauibarber_at_dml_h...>: -------------- 
>
> > It must have been some kind of fire to salvage the car. 







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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 09:40:27 -0500
From: Warren Wallingford <warren_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Re: Rear Wheel Squeak

Bearings make a low-frequency rumble, louder as the bearing 
deteriorates.  Wheel bearings on the Delorean are sealed.  You can't 
pack them.  High frequencies come from something rubbing.  If the noise 
disappears when you put on the brakes, it has to do with the brakes.  If 
it disappears when you take the wheel off, look for something contacing 
the disc or hub on the inside.  If a front wheel is noisy, check to see 
that the inner and outer axle nuts are tight and that the spacer behind 
the bearing is whole.  I've seen loose calipers cause a noise like this. 
  Just put the wheel in the air and spin it.  Keep looking and suspect 
everything.  If the rear wheel won't make the noise, go to the front. 
It's hard to tell exactly where a noise is coming from as you go down 
the road.
Warren at DMC


sweetp01569 wrote:
> I haven't pulled the drivers's side wheel off yet, but as I am rolling 
> slowly without the brakes (which also squeak, but not worried about 
> that at the moment), a high frequency squeak or squeal is produced as 
> the wheel rolls.  Not very loud, but enough to concern me.  Are there 
> bearings I need to possibly replace or grease? 




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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:50:44 -0000
From: "sweetp01569" <paul.sweet_at_dml_fmglobal.com>
Subject: Re: Rear Wheel Squeak

Thanks Warren,

I'll check the items you mention when I have the chance.

Paul

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Warren Wallingford <warren_at_dml_u...> 
wrote:
> Bearings make a low-frequency rumble, louder as the bearing 
> deteriorates.  Wheel bearings on the Delorean are sealed.  You 
can't 
> pack them.  High frequencies come from something rubbing.  If the 
noise 
> disappears when you put on the brakes, it has to do with the 
brakes.  If 
> it disappears when you take the wheel off, look for something 
contacing 
> the disc or hub on the inside.  




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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:58:20 -0000
From: "James" <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Warranty (was: Value of a "restored" DeLorean)

The warranty on a remanufactured car is two years, unlimited miles on
powertrain, and six months or 6,000 miles "bumper to bumper". We're
working with our warranty company to get it a two year "bumper to
bumper" warranty and we'll announce more on that when it comes to
fruition.

James Espey
DMC (Texas)
http://www.delorean.com
800/USA-DMC1

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Dave Swingle" <swingle_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> For one thing, I don't give much of a warranty - basically the end of 
> the driveway on labor (not really that bad, but close), the vendor's 
> warranty on parts. But I work cheap. 
> 
> Dave








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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:54:55 -0000
From: "James" <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Frame-up restorations/refurbished cars (was: Value of a "restored" DeLorean)

First, here are some photos of a remanufucatured car in progress here
at DMC (Texas). These photos were taken a couple weeks ago, but show
the frame being assembled. Note that this started as a bare frame and
was built to this point. Attendees to the DMC (Texas) Open House event
will be able to see this completed car, as well as the next one to be
assembled.

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/files/DMCH%20Refurbished%20Cars/

or

http://tinyurl.com/cocrd

There is a difference between a restored car and a remanufactured car
here at DMC (Texas) as far as terminolgy goes and the distinction is
important to note.

A "restored" car, as we use the term, is a client's car that has been
brought in for service work. The extent of the restoration is limited
only by the client's budget :-) and be as deep as a frame-up or simply
a mechanical restoration or a cosmetic restoration. When looking to
purchase a "restored" car FROM ANYONE, ask to see the receipts for the
work that was completed, they should be obtainable either from the
seller or the company that completed the work (for cars done here,
that requires the seller's authorization).

A "remanufactured" car (we formerly referred to them as refurbished
cars) are DeLoreans that we have purchased, stripped to a bare frame,
(sandblasted, powdercoated and chemically treated the cavities) and
thn rebuilt using new parts (NOS, replacement and reproduction) from
the inventory here. Each car varies slightly in what is replaced (we
won't replace a quarter panel that has no damage for the sake of
replacing it, for example) but as the photos show in the link above,
and as open house attendees will see, the work peformed and parts
replaced is extensive.

James Espey
DMC (Texas)
http://www.delorean.com
800/USA-DMC1


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Marc Levy <malevy_nj_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> You know this as fact?
> 
> 
> --- Soma576_at_dml_a... wrote:
> 
> > Well, they do strip them down to the frame which is
> > more than a lot of supposed 'restorations' see done.
> >  
> > Andy







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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 10:19:42 -0500
From: Travis Graham <tgraham_at_dml_noroads.com>
Subject: Re: Insurance

A good question, Ryan.  Insurance is a cyclical thread and the same  
answers always seem to come up each time around.  Hagerty is great if  
you can live with the restrictions, State Farm is a mixed bag, and  
many of the other alternatives are only for military personnel,  
veterans, AARP members, people in specific geographical regions, or  
people with some other qualification... these options just aren't  
available to many of us.

So, what does one do if none of the usual suggestions work?  One way  
to do it is to go to an insurance broker and let them do the work.   
They have no allegiance to one insurance company, so they'll query  
many of them and find the best policy to suit your needs.  And since  
the broker gets paid a commission from the insurance company, it's no  
extra money out of your pocket.

Yes, it is definitely possible to get a policy to insure your  
DeLorean as a daily driver with absolutely no restrictions AND with  
fair treatment on claims.  I have a policy on the DeLorean through  
Fireman's Fund and it's quite reasonable.

Travis Graham
#06344


On Jun 2, 2005, at 9:00 AM, dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com wrote:

> So then, for those of us who drive our DeLoreans daily, where do you
> go for insurance?



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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 15:47:37 -0000
From: "dmcmike2002" <billsfanmd_at_dml_verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Rear Wheel Squeak

Also check the emergency brake pads. It seems alot of cars have 
emergency brakes that either dont work or give them troubles. Mine 
would squeak a little bit around certain turns. I backed off the 
emergency brake pad a half a turn on the rear caliper and it took 
care of it (Instructions for this are on the Tech session)

Mike C
2109







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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:58:45 -0700
From: "Greg Linstad" <glinstad_at_dml_aseptico.com>
Subject: AC blows intermittently

After working perfectly last year in VIN #6214 (automatic trans), my AC
now blows steadily at idle or coasting at any speed, but rapidly slows
down to almost no air movement upon acceleration. It acts like old
vacuum actuated wipers where going up a steep hill made the wipers stop,
and you had to let off on the gas momentarily so the wipers would start
again. The car runs perfectly, no obvious vacuum leeks or hissing sounds
from the switch area, and no loose or disconnected hoses that I can
find. And as I said before it worked perfectly last year. Additionally,
it now only blows out the armrest vents, not the ones above the radio.
This seems like it is a vacuum related problem, but I'm stumped as to
how too find and fix it. When I first noticed this I did get the center
vents to work by moving the mode switch back and forth between settings,
but now no setting causes them to work.

Any ideas? 

 

Greg Linstad (my real name)

VIN #1216 (just got this 8000 mile car, sold my trusty VIN #3507 to my
Brother Jeff)

VIN #6214 (11,000 miles)



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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:56:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Frame-up restorations/refurbished cars

Based on your definition of "Restored", I think the
statement made in message 52700 is unfair...  This was
a quote from the NADA price guide, to which I believe
DMCH is the official source for (last I checked NADA,
IIRC it mentioned Stephen by name).

"Models professionally restored or refurbished by
DeLorean Motor Company MAY BRING UP A CONSIDERABLE
PREMIUM (UP TO 30%) OVER VALUES LISTED."

Given that a "restored" car is a meaningless
description (based on what you say below) because it
does not define the car's condition...  Only that some
work was done on the car "limited only by the client's
budget".  So, if I bring a $4000 parts car to DMCH and
pay $25 to have the windshield wipers replaced because
that is all I can afford, The car value will increase
up to 30%?  Even more so, my question remains
unanswered about why if this work is done at DMCH
versus some other well respected DeLorean professional
is it worth more?

The "re-manufactured" process sounds impressive, and
agree that if a car has been documented as gone
through this process it will certainly be worth more..
 But the question again comes up as to why an official
publication like NADA would conclude that if the car
was "re-manufactured" at DMCH versus another vendor it
is worth more?

What is it about DMCH that makes the car more valuable
than another vendor, or professional?  Other than DMCH
being the official consultant for NADA?  Is there some
official data to back up this claim that a car
"restored or refurbished" (*1) by DMCH will re-sell
for up to 30% more? (Note, I said RE-SELL).

*1 The quote from NADA includes "DeLorean Motor
Company".  Yet another example of how the selection of
this corporate name is confusion by design.


--- James <james_at_dml_usadmc.com> wrote:
<SNIP>
> There is a difference between a restored car and a
> remanufactured car
> here at DMC (Texas) as far as terminolgy goes and
> the distinction is
> important to note.
> 
> A "restored" car, as we use the term, is a client's
> car that has been
> brought in for service work. The extent of the
> restoration is limited
> only by the client's budget :-) and be as deep as a
> frame-up or simply
> a mechanical restoration or a cosmetic restoration.
> When looking to
> purchase a "restored" car FROM ANYONE, ask to see
> the receipts for the
> work that was completed, they should be obtainable
> either from the
> seller or the company that completed the work (for
> cars done here,
> that requires the seller's authorization).
> 
> A "remanufactured" car (we formerly referred to them
> as refurbished
> cars) are DeLoreans that we have purchased, stripped
> to a bare frame,
> (sandblasted, powdercoated and chemically treated
> the cavities) and
> thn rebuilt using new parts (NOS, replacement and
> reproduction) from
> the inventory here. Each car varies slightly in what
> is replaced (we
> won't replace a quarter panel that has no damage for
> the sake of
> replacing it, for example) but as the photos show in
> the link above,
> and as open house attendees will see, the work
> peformed and parts
> replaced is extensive.
> 
> James Espey
> DMC (Texas)
> http://www.delorean.com
> 800/USA-DMC1



		
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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:59:39 -0400
From: "Cecil Longwisch" <dmc1982_at_dml_msn.com>
Subject: Insurance mis-statement?

I must firmly disagree with the statement that Hagerty will let you drive 
your car anyewhere you want.
I am positive this is NOT  a true statement! please check with your agent 
before you have an accident  or the car is stolen and you are stuck!

I would not want others to purchase insurance based on your statement.

Cecil Longwisch
#10663



>From: "Kermit Poling" <KPoling_at_dml_Bellsouth.net>
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [DML] Insurance?
>Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 23:42:30 -0500
>
> >>You can't go to the store, mall, and  never can you drive it to work
>or school!<<
>
>One of my main reasons in choosing Hagerty was that they allow me to
>drive the car essentially anywhere, as long as I don't drive more than
>7,000 miles each calendar year.  I specifically discussed this issue
>with their agent, making clear that from time to time I just wanted to
>be able to drive the car and not be limited as to the destination.  They








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Message: 23
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 16:32:44 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: AC blows intermittently

If the fan speed isn't changing then the duct actuators are moving
when you accelerate. They are not supposed to be affected by momentary
lapses in vacuum. The vacuum source is from the vacuum resovoir in the
left pontoon ahead of the vapor cannister. I would suspect some kind
of a vacuum leak in the hose from the resovoir and/or a problem with
the check valve or vacuum resovoir itself. Check the vacuum line going
to the modulator on the front of the automatic transmission. There is
a short piece of rubber hose coming off the intake maifold to a metal
pipe and then after it gets to the front of the trans there is another
short piece of hose connecting it to the modulator. The rubber hoses
fall off or get old and crack. You may also have to lubricate or
rebuild the mode switch. You may have also knocked off a vacuum hose
under the dash. 
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757 


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Greg Linstad" <glinstad_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> After working perfectly last year in VIN #6214 (automatic trans), my AC
> now blows steadily at idle or coasting at any speed, but rapidly slows
> down to almost no air movement upon acceleration. It acts like old
> vacuum actuated wipers where going up a steep hill made the wipers stop,
> 






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Message: 24
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 16:40:27 -0000
From: "Mike Bosworth" <mike.bosworth_at_dml_btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: AC blows intermittently

Really sounds like your mode switch to me and the little maze inside 
that directs the vaccumm to the relevant flaps. Take this mode switch 
out and carefully disassemble / check. You will probably find the 
maze inside is just spinning and not seated properly any more ( mine 
had the little locator lugs on the rear snapped off). Clean, restick 
maze in the right orientation ie to line up with the missing locator 
tabs , silicone grease it up and carefully reasemble. You can buy new 
repair lits from you favorite vender. 

Regards

Mike Bosworth
Yorkshire, UK
#2001

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Greg Linstad" <glinstad_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> After working perfectly last year in VIN #6214 (automatic trans), 
my AC
> now blows steadily at idle or coasting at any speed, but rapidly 
slows
> down to almost no air movement upon acceleration. It acts like old
> vacuum actuated wipers where going up a steep hill made the wipers 
stop,
> and you had to let off on the gas momentarily so the wipers would 
start
> again. The car runs perfectly, no obvious vacuum leeks or hissing 
sounds
> from the switch area, and no loose or 





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Message: 25
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:11:49 -0500
From: Jordan Gary <jordan_at_dml_investmentplanner.net>
Subject: New Gull Wing Mercedes


Yesterday I stumbled on an advertisement for a new Mercedes Benz sports 
car with gull wings.
It is a 2005 SLR McLaren.  This sport coup have over 600 HP for all you 
who are so disappointed in the HP of Deloreans.  It goes over 200 MPH
for all of you who have access to a race track.  And it costs only 
$452,000 plus taxes.  How many of us will be buying them?
Here is the promo web site
http://www.mbusa.com/microsite/slr/index.jsp
Have fun watching it.  Jordan Gary vin 0787

>  
>


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