From: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [DML] Digest Number 2653
Date: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:49 PM

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. RE: Insurance?
From: "Darkstar" <darkstarmedia_at_dml_comcast.net>

2. Radiator air flow and license plate
From: "sweetp01569" <paul.sweet_at_dml_fmglobal.com>

3. Re: Value of a "restored" DeLorean
From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj_at_dml_yahoo.com>

4. Re: AC blows intermittently
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

5. Re: Frame-up restorations/refurbished cars
From: <eric_at_dml_seviernet.com>

6. Re: USAA insurance
From: "Palatinus, Joe" <jopalatinus_at_dml_davidson.edu>

7. Hood rarity
From: "alex morgan" <mauibarber_at_dml_hotmail.com>

8. Re: New Gull Wing Mercedes
From: Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com>

9. Re: Frame-up restorations/refurbished cars
From: mike.griese_at_dml_worldnet.att.net

10. Re: New Gull Wing Mercedes
From: Christopher Mack <christopher_mack_at_dml_yahoo.com>

11. portable garage
From: "JSJB100" <jsjb100_at_dml_yahoo.com>

12. RE: portable garage
From: Wagner Wayne-W13803 <Wayne.Wagner_at_dml_motorola.com>

13. Re: Radiator air flow and license plate
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>

14. Re: Radiator air flow and license plate
From: PRC1216_at_dml_aol.com

15. Re: Insurance?
From: Mike Green <mikedx_at_dml_gmail.com>

16. Friday Car Show At Tower Shops, Davie, FL
From: "Dan Harris" <whocruiser_at_dml_aol.com>

17. Re: Radiator air flow and license plate
From: Rod Dillman <rhdillman_at_dml_yahoo.com>

18. Re: Hood rarity
From: Jake Kamphoefner <jakekamp_at_dml_sbcglobal.net>

19. Re: Hood rarity
From: "conundrum1984" <jeepno1_397_at_dml_hotmail.com>

20. Re: Radiator air flow and license plate
From: "sweetp01569" <paul.sweet_at_dml_fmglobal.com>

21. Re: Insurance mis-statement?
From: "Lauren" <LPLand_at_dml_earthlink.net>

22. RE: Re: USAA insurance
From: "Jason Perkins" <jperkins_at_dml_microsoft.com>

23. Re: Radiator air flow and license plate
From: "David Sontos" <dsontos_at_dml_verizon.net>

24. Re: Hood rarity
From: mike.griese_at_dml_worldnet.att.net

25. Re: Insurance?
From: "Matt Spittle" <supermatty_at_dml_psu.edu>





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:06:44 -0700
From: "Darkstar" <darkstarmedia_at_dml_comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Insurance?

I put it under my moms name and we pay about $300 for 6 months as long as we
keep it under 7500 miles/year.

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com [mailto:dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of Lauren
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:47 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] Insurance?

SF has always been good to me as well and they were happy to add
my D for full coverage.  But - BIG but here -- SF charges me
$880/year and Hagerty just quoted me $283 for basically the same
coverage.

.............................LP
10440

> On 6/1/05, Darkstar <darkstarmedia_at_dml_comcast.net> wrote:
> > Interesting... I have state farm and they do full coverage on my
> > D... They have always been very good to me.









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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 17:59:51 -0000
From: "sweetp01569" <paul.sweet_at_dml_fmglobal.com>
Subject: Radiator air flow and license plate

How much does a license plate in front of the radiator affect airflow 
and cooling?  Looking at it, the plate effectively blocks about 50% of 
the opening in front on the car.  I would think it would make the fans 
work harder, but wanted your opinions.  I know that there is a license 
pate holder available that puts the plate higher, up along the bumper.

I appreciate any thoughts or facts on this issue.

Thanks,

Paul






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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:10:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Value of a "restored" DeLorean

And the source of the book's information is.......??  
DMCH!

As someone pointed out to me, the book uses the term
"MAY".  Because they use the word "MAY", I suppose
they don't have to back up the claim with any data. 
Most users of these price guides assume the prices are
set by some real statistical process..  But this does
not seem to be the case at all.

So, it is just a (IMHO) manipulative plug for DMCH
anyway.


--- "Steven L. Alves" <steve_at_dml_fotofx.net> wrote:

> I think you missed James's point... THE BLUE BOOK
> says that a vehicle 
> restored by DMCH has the higher value. James was
> just quoting the book 
> properly where the eBay seller was misquoting the
> book.
> 
> Steve
> #2700


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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 18:28:24 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Re: AC blows intermittently

Do you lose the door vents at acceleration as well? If so, your vacuum
canister isn't holding vacuum -- either a bad check valve or a leak
somewhere after the check valve. The line from the canister to the
front of the car is hard plastic, just like an OEM clutch line (line
back to the heater core shutoff valve is hard plastic as well). Mine
cracked, creating a vacuum leak that ultimately melted my driver's
side spark plugs but mercifully not the pistons (see the pic in
#5939's photo album). The passenger side intake rail, which supplies
HVAC ductwork vacuum, also feeds the driver's side cylinders.

Use a hand vacuum pump to pull a vacuum on the HVAC plumbing
immediately after the check valve. It is holds, check valve itself is
bad (has a little diaphragm inside that can leak). If not, start
checking the plumbing at each junction forward. In lieu of the hand
pump you can pull a rudimentary vacuum by simply sucking on the hoses,
but not until after the canister (takes a fair amount of vacuum to
fill the canister). HVAC supply line runs under the console, inside
the passenger compartment (as does the little line back to the heater
core shutoff valve).

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Greg Linstad" <glinstad_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> After working perfectly last year in VIN #6214 (automatic trans), my AC
> now blows steadily at idle or coasting at any speed, but rapidly slows
> down to almost no air movement upon acceleration. It acts like old
> vacuum actuated wipers where going up a steep hill made the wipers stop,
> and you had to let off on the gas momentarily so the wipers would start
> again. The car runs perfectly, no obvious vacuum leeks or hissing sounds
> from the switch area, and no loose or disconnected hoses that I can
> find. And as I said before it worked perfectly last year. Additionally,
> it now only blows out the armrest vents, not the ones above the radio.
> This seems like it is a vacuum related problem, but I'm stumped as to
> how too find and fix it. When I first noticed this I did get the center
> vents to work by moving the mode switch back and forth between settings,
> but now no setting causes them to work.
> 
> Any ideas? 
> 
>  
> 
> Greg Linstad (my real name)
> 
> VIN #1216 (just got this 8000 mile car, sold my trusty VIN #3507 to my
> Brother Jeff)
> 
> VIN #6214 (11,000 miles)
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]








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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 14:17:47 -0400
From: <eric_at_dml_seviernet.com>
Subject: Re: Frame-up restorations/refurbished cars

Restored vs. Refurbished- the biggest difference between the two terms is who owns the car at the time that the wrenches are being bent on the car!

>Even more so, my question remains unanswered about why if this work is
>done at DMCH versus some other well respected DeLorean >professional is it worth more?
 
Please reference a direct quote of someone stating that- I've missed that
posting somehow.

If I had the money, I would be very proud & pleased to have DMC restore #4433, and at that time I would not consider that "a meaningless
description" of my car's state of being.

As far as the NADA representation goes, wouldn't the largest DeLorean
service company have the right to make the entry for the DMC-12?

BTW- one more thing- this goes to all the vendors- I'm happy to see your
input on this list. All of you have stepped up to defend yourselves when
need be, and offer insight and experience whenever you can. Good job!

Eric Itzel
vin 4433

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marc Levy" <malevy_nj_at_dml_yahoo.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [DML] Frame-up restorations/refurbished cars


> Based on your definition of "Restored", I think the
> statement made in message 52700 is unfair...  This was
> a quote from the NADA price guide, to which I believe
> DMCH is the official source for (last I checked NADA,
> IIRC it mentioned Stephen by name).
>
> "Models professionally restored or refurbished by
> DeLorean Motor Company MAY BRING UP A CONSIDERABLE
> PREMIUM (UP TO 30%) OVER VALUES LISTED."
>




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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:04:11 -0400
From: "Palatinus, Joe" <jopalatinus_at_dml_davidson.edu>
Subject: Re: USAA insurance

I just recieved a wake up call from USAA as well.  We have had two deloreans on their policy and have just received word that for normal comprehensive they will only pay low blue book value (9500 I believe)  this is a problem for me since my daily driver is worth significantly more than that (at least 15-18k).  They did say however that you could move it to a USAA collectable car policy if it is garaged and driven only by someone with 10 years driving experience.  Again this is a problem for our garaged car, because I am only 21 and have only had 5 years driving experience and I am the only one in the family who likes to drive it.  For the collectable car policy USAA said we could name the price however, so for those of you old guys (26+) on USAA you can probably move it to collectable policy so long as it is garaged and not driven more than 2500 miles a year.
Joe P.
VIN 17167 6808


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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:13:16 +0000
From: "alex morgan" <mauibarber_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Hood rarity


I searched for this question in the archive but couldn't find it.  Does 
anybody know the rarest hood for the delorean?  I see in many ads that 
sellers say there delorean, "has the rare gas flap", but does this actually 
add any value to the car?
-mahalo,
Alex







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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:45:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: New Gull Wing Mercedes

Very cool!
... but "technically" they are Butterfly doors.

A nice definition page with pictures here:
http://www.importprecision.com/faq_vls_door_tutorial.htm
(thanks Robert of Vegas for the link in a prior post)

Shannon Y
16506


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Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:11:49 -0500
   From: Jordan Gary <jordan_at_dml_investmentplanner.net>
Subject: New Gull Wing Mercedes


Yesterday I stumbled on an advertisement for a new Mercedes Benz sports 
car with gull wings.\




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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:16:17 +0000
From: mike.griese_at_dml_worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: Frame-up restorations/refurbished cars

It's not at all unusual for there to be a heirarchy of restoration shops
in terms of resale value.  This is true in the world of European
sports cars (Jaguar, Ferrari, Mercedes (300SLs in particular) and 
certainly true for pre-war classics.  The name of the restoration
shop is very important, as is the kind of car restored.  For example,
you will not get the same bump in resale price for a Ferrari 250
restored by a Jaguar specialist, and some Jaguar shops will specialize
in certain models.  An E-type restored by a recognized D-type shop
won't do as well as a car restored by an E-type specialist.  It is also 
true that almost any restoration shop car will earn a higher price than 
a car restored in someone's garage.

Reputation is key in this industry and the marketplace rewards 
a good reputation.  It is almost impossible to displace a leader in 
a particular segment unless that leader starts delivering sub-par
restorations.  Reputations are built on knowledge, skill, access to
information, parts sources, attention to detail, salesmanship, 
presentation, word of mouth, auction results, Concours results,
sales results, and marketing.  

A key thing to keep in mind is that cars at this level are not 
considered "used cars" by their owners or the market.  If 
you are looking for a nice daily driver or fun weekend car, 
there are much more economical ways to get what you want
than going the restoration or refurbishment route.  On the other
hand, these kinds of tides lift all boats, because as restored
cars become more valuable, the cores for those restorations
also become more valuable.  Not necessarily a bad thing.

--
Mike


-------------- Original message from Marc Levy <malevy_nj_at_dml_yahoo.com>: -------------- 


> 
> What is it about DMCH that makes the car more valuable 
> than another vendor, or professional? Other than DMCH 
> being the official consultant for NADA? Is there some 
> official data to back up this claim that a car 
> "restored or refurbished" (*1) by DMCH will re-sell 
> for up to 30% more? (Note, I said RE-SELL). 
> 

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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:13:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christopher Mack <christopher_mack_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: New Gull Wing Mercedes

Jordan (and list),

Just over two months ago I was driving my DeLorean in
the Gaslamp District in Downtown San Diego on Fifth
Avenue and I spotted a silver Gullwing SLR McLaren
parked on the side of the street with the doors open. 
The owner gave me an odd look when I passed in my
DeLorean.  Looks like a very nice and very expensive
car.  However, the gullwing doors are different than
those on the DeLorean, Bricklin SV-1 and Mercedes
300SL as the doors are hinged on the A-pillars and not
the middle of the roof.  Still a neat car though,
however a bit pricey at nearly $500K

-Chris
#6453


--- Jordan Gary <jordan_at_dml_investmentplanner.net> wrote:

> 
> Yesterday I stumbled on an advertisement for a new
> Mercedes Benz sports 
> car with gull wings.

> 





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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:49:53 -0000
From: "JSJB100" <jsjb100_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: portable garage

Hey List

Does anyone have any recommendations for portable or temporary 
garages?  I seem to recall seeing one that was heated with air blown 
into it, but I can't seem to find it on line.

Thanks

Joe B
OUTTATYM
#2957







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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 14:55:35 -0500
From: Wagner Wayne-W13803 <Wayne.Wagner_at_dml_motorola.com>
Subject: RE: portable garage

Try searching for "carcoon".  I haven't tried searching yet.   I was made aware of this storage unit just recently.

Regards,
Wayne / #2447
www.AA9DY.com

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com [mailto:dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JSJB100
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 2:50 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] portable garage

Hey List

Does anyone have any recommendations for portable or temporary 
garages?  





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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 13:02:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Radiator air flow and license plate

Get the license holder that all the vendors now sell. 
It eliminates drilling holes in the bumper and has no
adverse effect upon air flow.

Dick Ryan
VIN 16867

--- sweetp01569 <paul.sweet_at_dml_fmglobal.com> wrote:

> How much does a license plate in front of the
> radiator affect airflow 




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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:54:01 EDT
From: PRC1216_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Radiator air flow and license plate

The plate was always meant to be up on the bumper, which is why many cars 
have the factory bracket installed there.    Grady and Hervey sell the stainless 
license plate holder, which holds the plate up along the bumper without 
needing to drill any more holes in the car.   It uses existing bolts.   I think 
putting the plate in front of the radiator is a bad idea if you drive your D a 
lot, it appears to block a lot of airflow as you mentioned.   Why risk 
overheating because of a stupid license plate?

-Patrick C.
1880


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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 21:03:56 +0100
From: Mike Green <mikedx_at_dml_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Insurance?

Hey folks. interesting insurance discussion.

I have to ask though, these insurance policies with mileage limits,
whats the situation with this? is it purely a case of honesty or do
they actually check? (and even if they do check, how can they tell
that somebody else hasnt run up any other miles on the car?

Ive never had to prove my 10,000 mile per year limit.. nor had reason to.

Mike


On 6/2/05, Darkstar <darkstarmedia_at_dml_comcast.net> wrote:
> I put it under my moms name and we pay about $300 for 6 months as long as we
> keep it under 7500 miles/year.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com [mailto:dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
> Of Lauren
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:47 PM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [DML] Insurance?
> 
> SF has always been good to me as well and they were happy to add
> my D for full coverage.  But - BIG but here -- SF charges me
> $880/year and Hagerty just quoted me $283 for basically the same
> coverage.




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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 20:12:15 -0000
From: "Dan Harris" <whocruiser_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Friday Car Show At Tower Shops, Davie, FL

Hi Guys -

As usual, I'll be there this Friday night, and will try to grab an 
extra space or two together for anyone else who can make it.  The usual 
spot, beneath the #18 light post, if I can get it.

Dan Harris - VIN#1662 - FL Tag# MY 81DMC

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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 13:10:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rod Dillman <rhdillman_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Radiator air flow and license plate

Paul,  It sounds to me as if you have a car with the plate holder installed improperly. All the plate holders that I have seen place the plate in front of the bumper-not in front of the air screen.  If it is in front of the air screen it will be so low it could drag when going up or down steep inclines. Rod 10921

sweetp01569 <paul.sweet_at_dml_fmglobal.com> wrote:How much does a license plate in front of the radiator affect airflow 
and cooling? Looking at it, the plate effectively blocks about 50% of 
the opening in front on the car. I would think it would make the fans 
work harder, but wanted your opinions. I know that there is a license 
pate holder available that puts the plate higher, up along the bumper.

I appreciate any thoughts or facts on this issue.

Thanks,

Paul




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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 13:25:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jake Kamphoefner <jakekamp_at_dml_sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Hood rarity

That's an easy one.  The older the hood style, the rarer it is.  If you've ever shopped for a hood, you'll find this out really quickly.
 
1. Gasflap (rarest by far)
2. Relief lines (rare and getting rarer)
3. 82-83 flat style (not rare at all, and still available NOS)
 
As far as adding value??  Well, I guess it depends on how badly the buyer wants a gasflap!
 
Jake Kamphoefner
1063


alex morgan <mauibarber_at_dml_hotmail.com> wrote:

I searched for this question in the archive but couldn't find it. Does 
anybody know the rarest hood for the delorean? I see in many ads that 
sellers say there delorean, "has the rare gas flap", but does this actually 
add any value to the car?
-mahalo,
Alex



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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 20:44:50 -0000
From: "conundrum1984" <jeepno1_397_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Hood rarity

I don't know if it does add any value.  But I would rather have the gas 
flap hood, which I do for easy access.

Tom
#2953

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "alex morgan" <mauibarber_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> 
> I searched for this question in the archive but couldn't find it.  
Does 
> anybody know the rarest hood for the delorean?  I see in many ads 
that 
> sellers say there delorean, "has the rare gas flap", but does this 
actually 
> add any value to the car?
> -mahalo,
> Alex







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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 20:46:11 -0000
From: "sweetp01569" <paul.sweet_at_dml_fmglobal.com>
Subject: Re: Radiator air flow and license plate

Thanks,

It makes sense to me to move it up.  I'll get one of the preferred 
holders,

Paul

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, PRC1216_at_dml_a... wrote:
> The plate was always meant to be up on the bumper, which is why 
many cars 
> have the factory bracket installed there.    Grady and Hervey sell 
the stainless 
> license plate holder, which holds the plate up along the bumper 
without 
> needing to drill any more holes in the car.   It uses existing 
bolts.   I think 
> putting the plate in front of the radiator is a bad idea if you 
drive your D a 
> lot, it appears to block a lot of airflow as you mentioned.   Why 
risk 
> overheating because of a stupid license plate?
> 
> -Patrick C.
> 1880
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:27:21 -0700
From: "Lauren" <LPLand_at_dml_earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Insurance mis-statement?



I just phoned Hagerty and they confirmed that while driving a 
regular route (i.e. to work or school) isn't covered, "pleasure driving" 
IS covered.   I told him it was always a pleasure to drive my D and 
he laughed and told me that's fine according to their policy.

..........................LP
10440


Cecil wrote:

> I must firmly disagree with the statement that Hagerty will let you
> drive your car anyewhere you want. I am positive this is NOT  a true
> statement! please check with your agent before you have an accident 
> or the car is stolen and you are stuck!





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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 16:33:08 -0400
From: "Jason Perkins" <jperkins_at_dml_microsoft.com>
Subject: RE: Re: USAA insurance

Since I am 34, I have the USAA collectable car insurance policy.  I have
to drive the car less than 5K miles a year, and keep it in a locked
garage.  I think the price is about $250 for the year.  Also it is
appraised for 30K.



-----Original Message-----
From: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com [mailto:dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Palatinus, Joe
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:04 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Re: USAA insurance

I just recieved a wake up call from USAA as well.  We have had two
deloreans on their policy and have just received word that for normal
comprehensive they will only pay low blue book value (9500 I believe)
this is a problem for me since my daily driver is worth significantly
more than that (at least 15-18k).  They did say however that you could
move it to a USAA collectable car policy if it is garaged and driven
only by someone with 10 years driving experience. 




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Message: 23
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 17:23:06 -0400
From: "David Sontos" <dsontos_at_dml_verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Radiator air flow and license plate

I tried this and it causes a reverse turbulence in front of the radiator and
you get zero air flow which causes the car to overheat. Don't do it.
Dave Sontos
vin 02573
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "sweetp01569" <paul.sweet_at_dml_fmglobal.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 1:59 PM
Subject: [DML] Radiator air flow and license plate


> How much does a license plate in front of the radiator affect airflow
> and cooling?  Looking at it, the plate effectively blocks about 50% of
> the opening in front on the car.  I would think it would make the fans
> work harder, but wanted your opinions.  I know that there is a license
> pate holder available that puts the plate higher, up along the bumper.






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Message: 24
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 22:28:17 +0000
From: mike.griese_at_dml_worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: Hood rarity

All else being equal, a gas flap hood is more valuable to me than
one without the flap.  It is much more convenient to use than 
raising the hood every time you need a fill.  The problem is,
all else is rarely equal.  The other problem is, the value is 
determined by the buyer, not the seller, so it really doesn't
matter what the seller says.

--
Mike


-------------- Original message from "alex morgan" <mauibarber_at_dml_hotmail.com>: -------------- 


> 
> I searched for this question in the archive but couldn't find it. Does 
> anybody know the rarest hood for the delorean? I see in many ads that 
> sellers say there delorean, "has the rare gas flap", but does this actually 
> add any value to the car? 
> -mahalo, 
> Alex 
> 

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Message: 25
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 22:12:18 -0000
From: "Matt Spittle" <supermatty_at_dml_psu.edu>
Subject: Re: Insurance?

They've never checked mine in 2 years, and actually, the first year I
owned my car I reported the wrong mileage.  The year after that, I
reported it correctly and it was *less* miles than the previous year!
 No one has blinked an eye, so to speak.  

Matt
#1604


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Mike Green <mikedx_at_dml_g...> wrote:
> Hey folks. interesting insurance discussion.
> 
> I have to ask though, these insurance policies with mileage limits,
> whats the situation with this? is it purely a case of honesty or do
> they actually check? (and even if they do check, how can they tell
> that somebody else hasnt run up any other miles on the car?
> 
> Ive never had to prove my 10,000 mile per year limit.. nor had
reason to.
> 
> Mike




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