Subject:[DML] Digest Number 2850
Date:9 Sep 2005 21:51:19 -0000

There are 7 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. RE: Re: air filter
From: Cirillo Ronald A NPRI <>

2. Re: Totaled DeLorean
From: Bob Brandys <>

3. RE: Missing Fuel Air Mixture Screw
From: "John Hervey" <>

4. RE: Hard start issue?
From: "John Hervey" <>

5. RE: DMCH in latest issue of Forbes...
From: "Videobob Moseley" <>

6. RE: Re: DMCH in latest issue of Forbes...
From: "Nelson, Allan" <>

7. Re: Totaled DeLorean
From: "Qume Fox" <>

Message: 1
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 12:47:41 -0400
From: Cirillo Ronald A NPRI <>
Subject: RE: Re: air filter


I have an old cross reference document that I can send to you or anyone else that wants it.  I don't think attachments will go through to the list so e-mail personally and I will send it to you in a Microsoft Word document.


 -----Original Message-----
From: 	John Macias [] 
Sent:	Friday, September 09, 2005 10:52 AM
Subject:	[DML] Re: air filter

Do you have, or know if there is a cross reference chart in any of
the forums with information like this for all the other consumable 
parts (oil filter, wipers, sparks, etc). Thanks


--- In, Steve Ableman <s.ableman_at_dml_w...> wrote:

>> Ed,
>>     For an after market air filter I use a Purolator A14275. Never 

had a 

>> problem finding one here. Works fine.
>> Steve


Message: 2
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 12:11:22 -0500
From: Bob Brandys <>
Subject: Re: Totaled DeLorean


I bought my time machine delorean from  a  junk yard in New Orleans 
back in 1992.  It had been under water for 4 months from hurricane 
Hugo(?).  The engine had one rusted cylinder- otherwise it ran.  The 
trans needed new lube.

The interior was rotted but I replaced it.   Also rebuilt the brake 
system and cleaned up the wiring.

Your car is not a total loss.   See if you can get it totaled by the 
insurance company and then buy it back for "parts"  really cheap.

Don't under estimate JZD design.



Message: 3
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 12:12:28 -0500
From: "John Hervey" <>
Subject: RE: Missing Fuel Air Mixture Screw

Paul, If there is no screw down inside the air flow meter where you inserted
the 3mm wrench, Unless someone has one or it isn't down inside the air flow
meter, then you will need to go to the wrecking yard and buy a similar set
up off an early Volvo and carefully take it apart. The screw is a very fine
thread and has a keeper on the bottom of it, so don't pull on it.
There is a picture on my fuel reference page as to what it looks like.
John Hervey

Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 9:09 AM
Subject: [DML] Missing Fuel Air Mixture Screw

I was about to check into the fuel air mixture for my idle problem.  
After pulling the plastic plug from the hole, I come to find out 
that I have no fuel-air mixture screw!  My 3 mm allan wrench simply 
passes through the open hole to the air flap mechanism (sorry for 
the nontechnical term for this).  A little hard to adjust without a 

Is there a replacement for this (the parts manual just indicates the 
rubber plug), or can I buy at a local hardware store?  Also, it 
looked like there were no threads in the hole.  Do I need to tap it?

Anyone else come across this?

To refresh, my idling problem is this.  Relatively smooth idle 
before I changed water pump, plugs, wires, distributor and cap. 
After the job, my cold idle seems smooth, but when engine reaches 
temperature, the idle goes up and down, almost stalling then catches 
up with a quick rev. It stalled a couple of time, too.  I am still 
looking for vacuum leaks as directed by some of you,  but wanted to 
investigate the mixture as well.




Message: 4
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 12:22:35 -0500
From: "John Hervey" <>
Subject: RE: Hard start issue?

Based on what your saying, I would adjust the mixture screw clock about
1/8th turn. The air flow meter deflection plate may no be rising the control
plunger high enough to pass fuel to the injectors. 
Does the car ever die at Idle or when you let off the gas going to a light.
John Hervey

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of
stefan diklich
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 5:48 AM
Subject: RE: [DML] Hard start issue?

The temperature yesterday was around 80 degrees. its weird though because it
can sit in my garage for two days and start fine cold but if it stays
outside it wont start. its the weirdest thing, and there is no hot start
problem, because if i drive the car and get it warmed up, and turn it off
and start it, it starts fine. The thing i had to do to start it was pump the
gas pedel and press it all the way down to get it to start. 

John Hervey <> wrote:What is the temperature where your
are, could be the hot start problem.
TTS switch isn't firing off the cold start valve. Either on could be bad.
Mixture screw could be out of adjustment.
Low battery causes a weak spark when trying to start. What is the battery
voltage when trying to start.
Vacuum leak.
John Hervey

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:19 PM
Subject: [DML] Hard start issue?

Ok, heres what happened, 

I drove the delorean to school today ( and dont worry i have a 
fairly small school where i dont have to worry about people 
vandelizing the car) and this is my 3rd day driving it. The first 
day when i go home the car starts up fine and takes me home. The 
second day it wont start, but about the tird try it finally turns 
over and starts. Now this is making me nervous. 

I talked myself into brining it to school today and see if it was 
just a fluke. Well it starts up fine every morning out of my garage. 
But after school i go to start it, it wont start. its trying to turn 
over but just wont. So after about the 6th try i give up, call my 
dad to pick me up. He tries it twice and it starts. But he had to 
pump the gas pedal and put it right to the floor to get it to start. 
So i have the car now in my garage. and im not taking it to school 
again for a while until i solve this problem. The weird thing is 
that it happend two days in a row. the second day the worst, and its 
as if, when it sits in the sun all day, it wont work, but i can 
start it after sitting a few days in my garage. Could the 
temperature outside have anything to do with this? I dont think it 
would but maybe im wrong.

So if anybody here has any idea of why this is happening or what 
valves to check etc. Let me know. Thanks everybody and i appreciate 
the help.

PS this was happening to me before when i first got the car but all 
i did was just change the spark plugs (because they were 
contaminated) and it started up fine for the last 3 months.


Message: 5
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 12:07:30 -0500
From: "Videobob Moseley" <>
Subject: RE: DMCH in latest issue of Forbes...

There is no doubt that Stephen loves the DeLorean, you have to have a 
passion for something in order to go into that field and to hit up your 
family and friends for the MILLIONS of dollars it took
to buy all those parts, set up that facility and maintain it.
Stephen is in BUSINESS and has to pay the note on that 40,000 square foot 
pay all those employees, pay all those utilities and services and on top of 
that make a profit
to eat on....after he has paid all the interest to the bank and investors.

These stainless steel parts are not exactly flying off the shelves.
If it were not for Stephen organizing all these parts and keeping them all 
safe who knows
where all this stuff might have ended up.
Hell, a large majority if it might have ended up as metal scrap!
They would be selling DeLorean hood coffee tables at the flea market or 

As far as their licensing of the "DMC" name, I suppose he was given a 
blessing from JZD,
and the good side of them regulating the name, logo and image likeness of 
the car they would
make sure that toy manufacturers get the car accurate, and might prevent the 
image of the
car from being shown in a negative light.

All that said, I would like to offer you this question.
If you are more righteous than thou, what have you done for the DeLorean 
that allows you to judge another?
Explain to all of us how it is you deserve to be honored and to allow you to 
negatively of DMCH?
Unless they have done something to you personally, I would think your 
opinions are worthless.

- Videobob

>>From: Marc Levy <>
>>Subject: [DML] DMCH in latest issue of Forbes...
>>Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 05:57:30 -0700 (PDT)
>>"Everything we do is geared toward selling more
>>And you all thought DMCH were in it for the love of
>>the car.. LOL!!
>>Now my opinion on the DMCH run Concours event is dead
>>This Article confirms a lot of what I have said over
>>the years.
>>--- Josh Haldeman <> wrote:
>>> > is a link:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -Josh


Message: 6
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 12:41:53 -0500
From: "Nelson, Allan" <>
Subject: RE: Re: DMCH in latest issue of Forbes...

Well said, David!  Last time I checked, "the love of the car" didn't pay too
well.  If I could take a hobby I'm passionate about and weave it into a
full-time business that supports me and my family, I would be one happy guy.
I applaud those like Stephen who can pull off what most of us can only dream
about.  Perhaps it is easier for some people to resent this success rather
than commend it.

I am also sick of the "anyone who dares make a profit is evil" mentality
that seems to be so trendy lately.  Everyone is against "big business",
whatever that is.  Capitalism built this country.  "Go ahead and make a
profit...but not too much!"  It seems as long as there's someone bigger or
more successful than you, you're ok.  Make it to the top and you're fair
game for the protestors de jour.

Sorry for the rant.  And now back to your regularly scheduled hot start
questions.   :-) 


-----Original Message-----
From: David Teitelbaum []
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:01 AM
Subject: [DML] Re: DMCH in latest issue of Forbes...

Since when did the word "Profit" become a dirty word? 

--- In, Marc Levy <malevy_nj_at_dml_y...> wrote:

>> "Everything we do is geared toward selling more
>> parts"....  
>> And you all thought DMCH were in it for the love of
>> the car.. LOL!!


Message: 7
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 18:02:12 -0000
From: "Qume Fox" <>
Subject: Re: Totaled DeLorean

>>  I plan on keeping the car after they total it and based on the 
>> widespread distruction my agent advises they may allow me to do so 

free of 

>> charge. They have so many cars to haul out of here its a logisitcal 
>> nightmare.
>>  Looking to rebuild and move on I may be moving to Germany with a 

new job 

>> soon. I can't wait to tool around on the Autobahn in my new 

DeLorean, this 

>> time make it a turbo!
>>  Signing off for now,
>> Jeff Phillips
>> #No Vin

I'm sorry to hear this.. but actually, even though your insurance 
company totaled the car, you'd be suprised as to what can be salvaged 
after a flood. I bet the car could be made roadworthy again for possibly 
as little as $2k, depending on how mechanically inclined you are and 
how much of the work needed you can do yourself.  But remember this.. 
The longer the car sits untouched after being flooded, the more it will 
cost and the harder it will be to restore it as it continues to deteiorate. 

I realize that if you lost everything in the flood, then your probably a lot 
more interested in trying to put your life back together than worrying 
about a car. But if you are planning on rebuilding the D, then you should 
get the process underway as soon as you can or it will cost a fortune.. 
especially if the frame starts rusting from the epoxy being cracked in 
places that normally don't get wet. 

VIN# 3209


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