Subject:[DML] Digest Number 2855
From:dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Date:12 Sep 2005 16:35:29 -0000
To:dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. distributor cap and rotor
From: "Josh Krady" <josh_at_dml_joshandjessica.com>

2. Engine Compartment Cover Hinges
From: "Bernie" <bmanderville_at_dml_comcast.net>

3. ANYONE? UK's catalytic converter pipes
From: "stainlessilusion" <5n-_at_dml_gmx.net>

4. Re: Selling my DeLorean 10961 Gray /5 spd>
From: Aaron Crocco <acrocco_at_dml_gmail.com>

5. Moderating ones own commentary
From: "twinenginedmc12" <twinenginedmc12_at_dml_gendreaumicro.com>

6. Re: Engine Upgrades.
From: "therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas_at_dml_cox.net>

7. looking for a part
From: Qumefox <qumefox_at_dml_brazi.net>

8. Mike Substelny's time has come and gone. Please resign your post.
From: "M. P. Olans" <mpolans_at_dml_creeper.com>

9. Re: Re: Production twin turbo PRV
From: Martin Gutkowski <martin_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

10. Concours Lovers - Possible Car For Sale Colorado
From: Dan Haney <DRHANEY_at_dml_peoplepc.com>

11. Re: I come to praise Marc Levy, not to bury him!
From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj_at_dml_yahoo.com>

12. Re: Engine Compartment Cover Hinges
From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj_at_dml_yahoo.com>

13. Re: Engine Compartment Cover Hinges
From: "Stephen Card" <stephen_at_dml_procomroofing.com>

14. Ultimate 1/24 Scale DeLorean Model
From: "John Spangler" <johnspangler_at_dml_netzero.net>

15. RE: distributor cap and rotor
From: "Jeff Friday" <DeLorean_Type304_at_dml_msn.com>

16. Radio
From: Joey Morgan <jlm1701music_at_dml_yahoo.com>

17. Re: Re: Selling my DeLorean 10961 Gray /5 spd>
From: kayoong_at_dml_aol.com

18. Re: Ultimate 1/24 Scale DeLorean Model
From: "Joe OBrien" <joeyoseppijoe_at_dml_yahoo.com>

19. Re: ANYONE? UK's catalytic converter pipes
From: Martin Gutkowski <martin_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

20. Re: distributor cap and rotor
From: "Mike Bosworth" <mike.bosworth_at_dml_btinternet.com>

21. Re: distributor cap and rotor
From: "sweetp01569" <paul.sweet_at_dml_fmglobal.com>

22. Re: distributor cap and rotor
From: "spaceboy_2912" <seanmm_at_dml_alltel.net>

23. Stolen in Seattle
From: "brentbeecher" <brentbeecher_at_dml_yahoo.com>

24. Re: Radio
From: "mr.pants_at_dml_ca.inter.net" <mr.pants_at_dml_ca.inter.net>

25. Re: Stolen in Seattle
From: Todd Nelson <tan5732_at_dml_rit.edu>





Message: 1
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:52:01 -0400
From: "Josh Krady" <josh_at_dml_joshandjessica.com>
Subject: distributor cap and rotor

Are there instructions on how to remove and even get to the distributor cap
and rotor?

Thanks,

Josh





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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:38:41 -0000
From: "Bernie" <bmanderville_at_dml_comcast.net>
Subject: Engine Compartment Cover Hinges

Does any vendor offer these hinges (101542) in Stainless Steel?  I 
think it would set off the upper area under the louvers just right.  
Just a little bit of stainless there, without over doing it.

Thanks,

Bernie







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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:16:14 -0000
From: "stainlessilusion" <5n-_at_dml_gmx.net>
Subject: ANYONE? UK's catalytic converter pipes

Does anyone at least have these pipes they could lend me? I just need 
to pass emissions and if I didn't have to spend 700+ for these pipes 
and shipping just to put on my car for one day that would really help 
me out.


>> If anyone has Stainless Exhaust Specialist's catalytic converter
>> pipes, and you're willing to sell or looking to trade(+$) for the
>> non-cat pipes, please E-mail me offlist! -----Dani B. #5003







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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:58:25 -0400
From: Aaron Crocco <acrocco_at_dml_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Selling my DeLorean 10961 Gray /5 spd>

For anyone who wants the real scoop on this particular delorean, contact 
me via email off-list.

-Aaron Crocco
Vin 5591
NY plate: OUTATYM



>> Message: 5
>>    Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:59:27 -0400
>>    From: <bob.hlavacek_at_dml_snet.net>
>> Subject: Selling my DeLorean 10961 Gray /5 spd
>>
>> After 6 1/2 years, I'm selling my D.  I've had a great time with her 
>> but I
>> just don't use her anymore.  Gray interior / 5 speed, she's in 
>> excellent
>> condition in Naugatuck, CT.  29,879 miles.
>>
>> Call 203-597-7355 cell or 203-723-4884 home.  $18,000
>>






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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:42:36 -0000
From: "twinenginedmc12" <twinenginedmc12_at_dml_gendreaumicro.com>
Subject: Moderating ones own commentary

Hello Mike Substelny.

Moderating this list is a fiduciary responsibility, inspite of the 
crummy pay.  Any moderator who thinks he/she is capable of impartially 
moderating his/her own comments is probably wrong.

A moderator who chooses to post any messages at all while on the job, 
let alone  sarcastic ones designed to embarrass another message poster, 
has lost sight of the importance of impartiality and the appearance of 
impartiality. 

I hope you get your impartiality back.

I liked the Forbes article with Stevenn Whinn (sic)  




>> - Mike Substelny
>>    humbled to be moderating my own messages
>>   . . . the same week that Marc Levy deigns to post
>>  
>>  -------------------------------------------------
>>   "Yes, there have been jokes at my
>>     expense but I think James
>>     knows I can take it."  - Marc Levy







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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:56:53 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas_at_dml_cox.net>
Subject: Re: Engine Upgrades.

The problem is that it's not a perfected motor that they wrenched on, 
and suddenly got improvement out of. It was still a pretty early 
design by Renault, with lots of unrealized areas of improvement that 
they had yet to tap into. As well, there are ALOT of improvements 
that take place outside of the engine as well.

The only real engine modifications are custom cams, and ported and 
polished heads. All with the goal of flowing greater volumes of air 
and fuel into and out of the combustion chambers, at a much faster 
rate, for a more powerful explosion inside the combustion chambers.

Next is a beefier ignition system to help burn the fuel more 
efficiently, and the new exhaust system. Less restrictive than stock 
because of both physical obstructions inside the plumbing, larger 
diameter pipes to flow more gas faster, and shorter tubes. If you add 
this all together, the substansial gain in power output is realistic, 
if not impressive when according to DMCH, the stock tuning 
specifications are kept intact.

Plus there is peace of mind with the motor as well. Since this is not 
only a common modification of the drivetrain, but one that doesn't 
need any custom tinkering. That takes away alot of the stigma 
normally associated with engine swaps.

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Qumefox <qumefox_at_dml_b...> wrote:
<SNIP>

>> for all I know they could just
>> slap on a new exhaust, though I find it hard to believe that alone 

will

>> net the +65hp they claim.. probably 40 or so tops.)  and make some 

money

>> off me, or continue with how they offer it now, in which case 

they'll

>> make 0, at least off of that aspect, though the only thing I can 

think

>> of  off the top of my head that I absolutly have to buy from them 

are

>> the lowering springs.. I think I can find everything else i'll need 

to

>> finish my D from other places cheaper.
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Chris
>> VIN# 03209
>> http://badger.brazi.net/delorean





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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:06:41 -0500
From: Qumefox <qumefox_at_dml_brazi.net>
Subject: looking for a part

Hey all. I know this has been asked before but I haven't found a
suitable answer in either the archives or with google.

Does anyone out there know where I can get  a 0-438-140-038 CPR, as well
as a set of the 65.3mm highth pistons as well as liners used in the b28e?

Any help will be appreciated.

--

Chris
VIN# 03209
http://badger.brazi.net/delorean



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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:46:54 -0000
From: "M. P. Olans" <mpolans_at_dml_creeper.com>
Subject: Mike Substelny's time has come and gone. Please resign your post.

Look up "inappropriate" in Webster's....it references this post,
     I am not sure where to start.  Definitely abuse of moderator
powers.  I seriously doubt that ANYONE ELSE who had tried to submit
this to the DML would have gotten it approved by you.  Not even Marc
himself.  Time to re-read the rules of the DML, Mike.  You blew it. 
     This isn't about whether or not Marc Levy can take it.  We all
know he can or he wouldn't spark such debates.  This is about your
abuse of power as a moderator.  You subjected all of us on the DML to
your post so in fairness I am responding on the DML instead of
privately.  I see no DeLorean content in your response here, save
references to the DML.  Just Levy-bashing.  
     You've earned your place in the DeLorean dunking booth....:) 
Ken, please add him to the distinguished (and ever-growing) list.  

This is all very disappointing behavior.  I fart in your general
direction.

Matt Olans
VIN 16816

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Michael Substelny" <msubstel_at_dml_l...> wrote:

>> Marc Levy wrote:
>> 
>
>>> > I presented some facts, and gave my opinion on them.
>>> >
>>> > Did I pass judgment?
>
>>  
>> Given that Marc Levy's opinion requires no judgment, his opinion

must be fact.   Socrates came to this conclusion about 2,400 years
ago.  This would make Marc Levy's opinion far superior to our mere
human opinions.  But longtime readers of the DML knew this already.

>>  
>> Behold, his superhuman presence graces the DML!
>>  
>> Marc Levy also wrote:
>>  
>
>>> > And you all thought DMCH were in it for the love of
>>> > the car.. LOL!!
>
>> 
>> Allow me to be the first DMLer to thank Mr. Levy for explaining our
>> thoughts to us.  Without his superior insight, we might never have

known that we think this.

>> 
>> Marc Levy also wrote:
>> 
>
>>> > Now my opinion on the DMCH run Concours event is dead
>>> > on.
>
>> 
>> Followed by:
>> 
>
>>> >  Yikes! I am not sure how you got all of that out of
>>> >  my comments, but...
>
>> 
>> Thank goodness Marc Levy is watching us.  Only his superior opinion can
>> make us understand that criticism is praise.  Perhaps he will also
>> remind us that freedom is slavery and ignorance is strength.  Clearly
>> his thoughts arise on a plane higher than our own.
>>  
>> Marc Levy also wrote:
>>  
>
>>> > They have done nothing to me personally.  I have no
>>> > vendetta against them.  No agenda...   If I did, then
>>> > my opinions would not be worthless??  I think the
>>> > opposite would be true.
>
>> 
>> Obviously this statement cannot make logical sense to any mere

human.  I dare not contemplate the true nature of Marc Levy, for fear
he may smite me . . . and my little automobile, too.

>> 
>> Finally, Marc Levy said:
>> 
>
>>> > When did I ask to be honored?
>
>>  
>> Such plainspoken humility.  Does anyone dare respect Mr. Levy's wishes
>> and convey less honor to him?  Surely, not I.
>>  
>> - Mike Substelny
>>    humbled to be moderating my own messages
>>   . . . the same week that Marc Levy deigns to post
>>  
>>  -------------------------------------------------
>>   "Yes, there have been jokes at my
>>     expense but I think James
>>     knows I can take it."  - Marc Levy








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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:46:31 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <martin_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: Production twin turbo PRV

I'm going to measure my words carefully in this e-mail (or try to  :-) 

Without reciting a lot of Venturi-related history, which I have been 
very interested in since discovering that Venturi produced an Esprit 
competitor with a PRV engine that happens to be stunningly beautiful 
(IMO), the Atlantique 300 single-turbo, which I absolutely and 
completely must own one day, you can read about it here

http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=103&i=3624

(The 300 had a 12v, contrary to that article)

Are they the best people to talk to about engineering a new PRV version 
for the D? If the same engineers are still there with access to the same 
data, then yes. They did more with that engine than anyone else. But 
this was 10 years or so ago and the knowledge has seeped into owners 
clubs here there and everywhere with an interest in the PRV, much the 
same way as we have access to the workshop manuals for the DeLorean. The 
knowledge is freely available if you look hard enough.

The bottom line is this: You can make the PRV into anything you like - a 
fire-breathing 800hp monster can be done..... for the right money. (WM 
Peugeot LeMans team springs to mind!) but if you insist on starting with 
a 91mm bore block like we have, and especially if you want to keep it 
odd-fire, you're going to hit trouble pretty much as soon as you start 
if you want to use off-the-shelf parts, unless you're happy to drop the 
capacity to 2458cc which is quite a mental hurdle when you know that the 
3 litre 12v even-fire engines, extermally identical, are capable of 
substantially more power for the same money.

Bottom line: There's a realistic limit of around 300hp for normally 
aspirated PRV's (and that requires replacing pretty much all the 
internals). A useable, drivable turbocharged engine of similar power can 
be done for less money because there are lots of donor engines and parts 
are readily available to do it. Much above 350hp on a single turbo a la 
A610 / Atlantique 300 means going for a stupidly laggy turbo, or twin 
turbos, whereapon you jump back into "custom parts" territory in a big 
way - and there's a lot less room in the DeLorean engine bay than an 
A610, I can tell you! Although we do have considerably better 
ventilation (lots on the D vs pretty much none on the A610!)

I could write a very long essay on all this stuff, but it's late, I'm 
tired and perhaps I'll write a webaite all about it  :-) 

Martin


Shannon Yocom wrote:


>>Wait a minute!
>>The day we hear about the Forbes article 
>>( http://www.terradisedesign.com/delorean/stephen1.htm - or here:
>>http://www.dfwdmc.com/media/Forbes_0905_DMCH.pdf ) 
>>that boasts a possible new 300 & 400 hp engine offered by DMCH via Venturi... is
>>the same day you post about a 600hp Venturi engine...? [tounge in cheek now] are
>>you the new SonnyV ?   :-)   Just kidding. 
>>
>>The Forbes article states the stock HP is 135hp. 
>>- 60hp more cost an extra $5,300 (DMCH's 195hp engine) . 
>>- 165hp more "might" cost an extra $10,000 (via the DMCH/Venturi 300hp engine). 
>>I'd hate to see what the 600hp upgrade would cost. After the 300hp engine comes
>>out (if it is infact only 10k) one would be silly to purchase 60 extra horses for
>>$5,300.
>>
>>Shannon Y
>>16506
>>







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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:29:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dan Haney <DRHANEY_at_dml_peoplepc.com>
Subject: Concours Lovers - Possible Car For Sale Colorado

I recently had the pleasure of meeting another Delorean owner here in Colorado and he is "potentially" interested in selling his car. I saw and drove this wonderful car on Friday. (Personal Qualifications to judge this car- while I'm not an expert by any means, I am a fair mechanic and have had a relationship with my Delorean since 1985 when it had less than 6,000 Miles on it. I have also been a DML list member for quite a while.)

Vin 06116 Vital Statistics:
12,100 Miles (I am 99.9999% certain these are the true miles this car is "FRESH")
Speedometer was working brilliantly
Nov 81 Build
5 Speed
Gray interior
No Gas Flap but hood is grooved
Craig radio with rear drivers side factory mounted automatic antenna
(The passenger side front quarter panel was not butchered by a mast antenna like vin 3254!)
It also has the later model door straps and not the ring loop straps.
Door guides are intact all of the struts are correct but new.
1 piece trim pads along side the door

I took my car out to compare against this car and I like the looks of mine and think its in pretty good shape but this car, WOW! It is like brand new. The owner bought it with 11,400 miles on the clock as a toy & investment in 1992. Well due to his lifestyle and other interests he has driven it less than a thousand miles in the past 13 years. He even admitted this was the wrong investment, at the time he had the opportunity to buy a REAL unmolested Cobra for only a couple of grand more.... He said that car was sold again recently for over $100K.

As I said the car is fresh, the seats look like new and I don't mean new as in dried out new. It has original 1981 floor mats that could be sold as new. The gas, brake and clutch pedals look new. The interior is amazing, including the headliner. The switches are all untouched. This car doesn't need a new headlight switch because his looks and works showroom fresh as do his window and defrost switches. The clock works as does everything else. The exterior is perfect. The original headlights are still on the the car and work/look great. The car has not been driven at night even one time in the past 13 years. The front and rear facias look great, the tail and marker lights are bright and look new. All of the black trim including the louvers and mirrors are black and perfect.

This car is truly unmolested except for these items:
New Lowered suspension & Shocks from DMC Houston - Installed earlier this summer
AC system has been converted to R134
Battery shut off switch installed.
The overfill bottle has been replaced with a metal one (Not stainless).
But he does have the original and it is in great shape - replaced as a precaution.
Tires are Michilen Pilots  (But he has the original NCT's for the rear and they look Brand new.)
The fronts were burned to the core on the inside edge due some recent driving on the saggy old suspension and he didn't notice the problem until it was too late.)

The car has been living in heated/cooled garage all of its life -  original owner too. It has been stored correctly and driven a few miles every few months except when stored. It fires up easy and drives like a dream. The transmission shifts like butter. I had never driven a 5 speed Delorean in my life but this was one of the smoothest 5 speeds of any kind I have driven.  Even putting it in reverse was golden. The brakes are hard, firm and except for a bit of a squeak in the first few miles work beautifully even in a panic situation, no brake fade at all.  He encouraged me to drive it hard!

It is so clean (Dusty but clean) that even the emblems in the engine bay still have the pure white background, although the vaccum hose routing label appears too have dried out and wrinkled a bit (Another concourse hit for a $6.00 part). Even the frame looks new, I could see absolutely no cracking of the epoxy at all, which is what you would expect for a car from Dry Colorado that has never been driven in the elements. It even has the factory paint dabbs on the front stabilizer bar so the recalls in that area were done.

The car doesn't leak anything at all and the engine compartment looks great. As I said it rides great and runs really cool. It was 95 outside the day I drove it so I can also vouch for the AC.

The owner has been a pilot for 40 years and really takes care of his equipment and knows how to store things away for long periods correctly. He's well to do but does his own work, you can tell he doesn't cut corners just to save a buck! He lives outside the Denver area on 40 acres with his own runway and has a hanger for his plane and a 4 car garage for his toys.  Which include 1979 Mercedes Convertible, 1965 Ford Mustang GT and the Delorean. His 1st love is the Mustang GT which he's owned since 1972.

I say this car is potentially for sale because the owner doesn't need the money, he's 66 and has everything he needs plus he's building a second home outside Phoenix (The Mercedes is headed down there.) to be near his daughter in the winter. He has no plans to put the car in the paper because he doesn't want a hundred looky-lous showing up at his house simply to see the car and he won't E-bay. But if an interested person who wanted to enjoy the car took a look gave him a a fair offer, he would sell. He knows generally what Deloreans are worth and he hoped his would be at the top end, but since he had never even seen another one he wasn't certain. I can vouch for this car and it is at the very top of the price range. 

I will be going over to see this beautiful machine again soon and since the owners home garage also has a pit, I will get all kinds of pictures of every inch of the car to verify what I have written today. We both were too excited to get out on the road and drive Friday to take many pictures, but I will happily share the ones I did take. I am no concours expert but after a bath (We did drive the car....) this car could place in any show as though it came right out of the box.

I would buy this car myself, but since my car is a family heirloom and I don't have room for two Deloreans I can't really justify it. Contact me off line if you are interested and I can put you in touch with the owner.  
 
Dan Haney
Vin 3254 (Very jealous of vin 6116) 




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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:44:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: I come to praise Marc Levy, not to bury him!

sense or humor? 

Don't you mean sense and humor?


--- Delorean3_at_dml_aol.com wrote:

<snip>

>> humor!!!   Levy too!!! (even 
>> though he has no sense or no humor)





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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:47:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Engine Compartment Cover Hinges

I saw a set of SS hinges at PJ Grady.


--- Bernie <bmanderville_at_dml_comcast.net> wrote:


>> Does any vendor offer these hinges (101542) in
>> Stainless Steel?  I 
>> think it would set off the upper area under the
>> louvers just right.  
>> Just a little bit of stainless there, without over
>> doing it.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Bernie
>>


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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 00:09:15 -0000
From: "Stephen Card" <stephen_at_dml_procomroofing.com>
Subject: Re: Engine Compartment Cover Hinges

I believe that Rob was working on these in stainless. I actually saw
a prototype set.
www.pjgrady.com
Stephen
Vin 3601








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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 01:39:41 -0000
From: "John Spangler" <johnspangler_at_dml_netzero.net>
Subject: Ultimate 1/24 Scale DeLorean Model

I just finished restoring my 1/24 Scale DeLorean model.  I first
finished it in 1994 and some of you may have seen it at DOA events in
years' past.  I'm proud to announce it's back in top condition again,
and I made a webpage for it at my site with my other models:

http://www.johnspangler.com/models

I uploaded a few pics of it to the Photos section of the Yahoo Groups
as well.  Enjoy!

-John
#5572






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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 02:21:50 +0000
From: "Jeff Friday" <DeLorean_Type304_at_dml_msn.com>
Subject: RE: distributor cap and rotor

Well first off if you don't have a workshop manual get one!!!  DMC sells 
great books.

Second, if you have competent mechanical skill it's not too difficult to 
access the Ignition Distributor.

Without typing a book here goes:

Remove All Fuel lines from Fuel Distributor but remove the cold start line 
first.
Remove Idle Speed Motor
Remove Mixture Control Unit with Fuel Distributor attached if you'd like to. 
  Make sure to loosen the throttle connecting rod from the spindle by 
removing the clip at the end of the shaft and unplug the thin vacuum line 
coming from the throttle body that connects by the AC Compressor and unplug 
the microswitch and vacuum solenoid behind the Mix Unit.

You have access to the distributor.

Now just pry back the clips with a flathead remove cap and replace with new 
parts from DMC (Houston or Florida.)

Reinstallation is a breeze but I would HIGHLY recommend that you purchase 
the service manual and it is a good idea to replace the copper washers for 
the fuel lines.  Be sure not to overtighten the fuel line bolts.  If you're 
strong it is very easy to snap them off (I did it a few times) so torque 
them down to book specifications.

Also, be sure when you reinstall the Mix Unit that the Cup Seal is properly 
seated and lube the o-ring for the idle speed tube to pass through.  I 
usally put grease on the tube itself also.

Let us know how it goes.

Jeff in NC



>>From: "Josh Krady" <josh_at_dml_joshandjessica.com>
>>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>>To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
>>Subject: [DML] distributor cap and rotor
>>Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:52:01 -0400
>>
>>Are there instructions on how to remove and even get to the distributor cap
>>and rotor?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Josh





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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:16:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joey Morgan <jlm1701music_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Radio

Hey gang,

Who here has ever taken their radio out..in one
piece??? My radio is not working and I want to see if
it is hooked up. I got the vents out over the radio
and I want to take the radio out through the hole
where the vents go. The problem is that I cant get to
the bracket on the back of the radio and if and when I
do get the bracket off, the radio is not going to go
back far enough for me to lift it up and pull it out
through the vent hole. Any advice? I NEED MY TUNES!!!!

Thanks:)

Joey
#6297


	
		
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 02:35:49 EDT
From: kayoong_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Selling my DeLorean 10961 Gray /5 spd>

Aaron:

Wazzzzupppppppppp with this Delorean?
Is is worth it?

Kayo


In a message dated 9/11/05 7:29:21 PM, acrocco_at_dml_gmail.com writes:



>> For anyone who wants the real scoop on this particular delorean, contact
>> me via email off-list.
>> 
>> -Aaron Crocco
>> Vin 5591
>> NY plate: OUTATYM
>> 
>> 
>
>>> > Message: 5
>>> >    Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:59:27 -0400
>>> >    From: <bob.hlavacek_at_dml_snet.net>
>>> > Subject: Selling my DeLorean 10961 Gray /5 spd
>>> >
>>> > After 6 1/2 years, I'm selling my D.  I've had a great time with her
>>> > but I
>>> > just don't use her anymore.  Gray interior / 5 speed, she's in
>>> > excellent
>>> > condition in Naugatuck, CT.  29,879 miles.
>>> >
>>> > Call 203-597-7355 cell or 203-723-4884 home.  $18,000
>>> >
>
>> 
>> 




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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 08:43:46 -0000
From: "Joe OBrien" <joeyoseppijoe_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Ultimate 1/24 Scale DeLorean Model

WoW,



John, your models are great. Props to you for such dedication!


-Joe O'Brien

2524,
16634,
16851









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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:34:38 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <martin_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: ANYONE? UK's catalytic converter pipes

AFAIK even including the systems sent to the US, they have only ever 
made one pair - and that's the ones featured in the article.

Martin

stainlessilusion wrote:


>>Does anyone at least have these pipes they could lend me? I just need 
>>to pass emissions and if I didn't have to spend 700+ for these pipes 
>>and shipping just to put on my car for one day that would really help 
>>me out.
>>
>>  
>>






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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:02:29 -0000
From: "Mike Bosworth" <mike.bosworth_at_dml_btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: distributor cap and rotor

Try, 

http://retroserver.no-ip.com/delorean/distributor.html

Regards

Mike
#2001

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Josh Krady" <josh_at_dml_j...> wrote:

>> Are there instructions on how to remove and even get to the 

distributor cap

>> and rotor?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Josh









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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:30:50 -0000
From: "sweetp01569" <paul.sweet_at_dml_fmglobal.com>
Subject: Re: distributor cap and rotor

How much does not greasing the idle speeb pipe and cup seal affect 
idling.  I have a hot idle problem that the idle goes up and down, 
to the point of the engine almost stalling, then catching itself.  
The tube is inside the O-ring, but I did not lube it when I 
reinstalled.  Can a lot of air pass through this?  Does the grease 
prevent the vacuum leak?  Also, what kind of grease, like wheel 
bearing grease?


Thanks,

Paul

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Friday" 
<DeLorean_Type304_at_dml_m...> wrote:

>> Well first off if you don't have a workshop manual get one!!!  DMC 

sells 

>> great books.
>> 
>> Second, if you have competent mechanical skill it's not too 

difficult to 

>> access the Ignition Distributor.
>> 
>> Without typing a book here goes:
>> 
>> Remove All Fuel lines from Fuel Distributor but remove the cold 

start line 

>> first.
>> Remove Idle Speed Motor
>> Remove Mixture Control Unit with Fuel Distributor attached if 

you'd like to. 

>>   Make sure to loosen the throttle connecting rod from the spindle 

by 

>> removing the clip at the end of the shaft and unplug the thin 

vacuum line 

>> coming from the throttle body that connects by the AC Compressor 

and unplug 

>> the microswitch and vacuum solenoid behind the Mix Unit.
>> 
>> You have access to the distributor.
>> 

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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:06:28 -0000
From: "spaceboy_2912" <seanmm_at_dml_alltel.net>
Subject: Re: distributor cap and rotor

I would not recommend removal of the fuel lines as it is not 
necessary and requires you to replace all those copper seals, about 
$20, and you risk exposure of dirt and debris to the fuel system 
after the fuel filter. If you simply remove the throttle tubes and 
linkage then maneuver the mixture unit, hoses and all, out of your 
way you can access the distributor. In some cases it may be 
necessary to remove the CSV line as Jeff stated but not always 
required. I've done this procedure on at least 20 DeLoreans and have 
never removed the fuel lines, short of the occasional CSV hose. But 
you defiantly need to invest in a workshop manual and since all the 
vendors pretty much have the same workshop manual just buy one from 
your favorite.
Best of luck 
seanM


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Friday" 
<DeLorean_Type304_at_dml_m...> wrote:

>> Well first off if you don't have a workshop manual get one!!!  DMC 

sells 

>> great books.
>> 
>> Second, if you have competent mechanical skill it's not too 

difficult to 

>> access the Ignition Distributor.
>> 
>> Without typing a book here goes:
>> 
>> Remove All Fuel lines from Fuel Distributor but remove the cold 

start line 

>> first.
>> Remove Idle Speed Motor
>> Remove Mixture Control Unit with Fuel Distributor attached if 

you'd like to. 

>>   Make sure to loosen the throttle connecting rod from the spindle 

by 

>> removing the clip at the end of the shaft and unplug the thin 

vacuum line 

>> coming from the throttle body that connects by the AC Compressor 

and unplug 

>> the microswitch and vacuum solenoid behind the Mix Unit.
>> 
>> You have access to the distributor.
>> 

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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:38:02 -0000
From: "brentbeecher" <brentbeecher_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Stolen in Seattle

Well, damn.  I woke up this morning and 892 was no longer parked in front of my house.  It 
was not towed.  Oddly enough, I was just at a PNDC tech session yesterday, and it had gotten 
a thorough once over by Rob Grady (who happened to be in Seattle), and I had a list of 
projects in the hopper.  For anyone who was at that tech session and saw the condition of my 
passenger-side TAB, you will know that anyone who was fleeing the crime scene at speed did 
so at his own peril.  I have never before hoped my TAB would break.  So, it's been a good 
ride.  If you happen to notice my car for sale, I would really appreciate a headsup.  Early 81, 
manual, all black interior.  64k miles.  Thanks to you all.

Brent Beecher 






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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:57:35 -0400
From: "mr.pants_at_dml_ca.inter.net" <mr.pants_at_dml_ca.inter.net>
Subject: Re: Radio

Hi Joey,

The radio should just come out from it's own slot, no?  Mine was mounted 
from the front of the console panel, so it slid right out, which may or 
may not be the correct way...  Sounds like your radio may be mounted 
from behind the center console panel, so I am assuming that's why you 
want to pull it out the air vents' slot (the radio's opening is too 
small for the body of the radio?)?

When I took mine out, I removed the center vents and their little rubber 
booties to get access with a very small pliers to manage to break loose 
the bolt on the back of the radio which secures it to that metal 
strap/bracket.  Once I loosened this tiny bolt, I could then remove it 
with my fingers & the radio just slid right out.  As I recall, there's 
quite a bit of room back there once the radio is free from the bracket 
strap, so you may in fact be able to wiggle it up and through...

Be VERY careful when you're in there, however, to not knock of the back 
of A/C mode switch, where all the vaccum lines connect to....  I did 
this, wnd panicked when I heard the "whooosh", but it reconnected just 
fine afterwards.

Good luck, hope this helps...
- ed
1982 DMC-12 (11594)


Joey Morgan wrote:


>>Hey gang,
>>
>>Who here has ever taken their radio out..in one
>>piece??? My radio is not working and I want to see if
>>it is hooked up. I got the vents out over the radio
>>and I want to take the radio out through the hole
>>where the vents go. The problem is that I cant get to
>>the bracket on the back of the radio and if and when I
>>do get the bracket off, the radio is not going to go
>>back far enough for me to lift it up and pull it out
>>through the vent hole. Any advice? I NEED MY TUNES!!!!
>>
>>Thanks:)
>>
>>Joey
>>#6297
>>
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-- Now Playing: ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 25 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:04:16 -0400 From: Todd Nelson <tan5732_at_dml_rit.edu> Subject: Re: Stolen in Seattle Wow, sorry to hear about that, I hope the police can turn up some information. Was the car unlocked? Were the keys in there? I'm wondering just how easy it is for someone to steal one of these cars. Todd Nelson, 1561, Vermont ----- Original Message ----- From: "brentbeecher" <brentbeecher_at_dml_yahoo.com> To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 10:38 AM Subject: [DML] Stolen in Seattle

>> Well, damn.  I woke up this morning and 892 was no longer parked in front 
>> of my house.  It
>> was not towed.  Oddly enough, I was just at a PNDC tech session yesterday, 
>> and it had gotten
>> a thorough once over by Rob Grady (who happened to be in Seattle), and I 
>> had a list of
>> projects in the hopper.  For anyone who was at that tech session and saw 
>> the condition of my
>> passenger-side TAB, you will know that anyone who was fleeing the crime 
>> scene at speed did
>> so at his own peril.  I have never before hoped my TAB would break.  So, 
>> it's been a good
>> ride.  If you happen to notice my car for sale, I would really appreciate 
>> a headsup.  Early 81,
>> manual, all black interior.  64k miles.  Thanks to you all.
>>
>> Brent Beecher
>>
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