Subject:[DML] Digest Number 2984
From:dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Date:15 Nov 2005 23:13:48 -0000
To:dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com

There are 8 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: are you sure its R12?
From: "alex morgan" <mauibarber_at_dml_hotmail.com>

2. RE: New DMCH Performance Exhaust Inquiring feedback?
From: "Jeff Friday" <DeLorean_Type304_at_dml_msn.com>

3. Re: 911, engine running on 3 cylinders MORE INFO
From: "dmcchaser" <dmcchaser_at_dml_juno.com>

4. Re: Start-up RPM's
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

5. AW: Start-up RPM's
From: "Elvis Nocita" <elvisnocita_at_dml_gmx.de>

6. Re: New DMCH Performance Exhaust Inquiring feedback?
From: "Joe OBrien" <joeyoseppijoe_at_dml_yahoo.com>

7. RE: factory radio or aftermarket?
From: "Videobob Moseley" <videobob_at_dml_hotmail.com>

8. Re: Start-up RPM's
From: "coreysmoo" <coreysmoo_at_dml_hotmail.com>





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:48:54 +0000
From: "alex morgan" <mauibarber_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: are you sure its R12?

I am fairly confident.  I hooked it up to A/C guages that were for R12.  I 
dont think it would have connected correctly if it wasn't?  Is there any 
other quick way of checking to be 100%?
-Alex


Quote:

Quick question. Are you positive your AC system has r12 in it and not
r134a? If it's been filled with 134a then it should have different
fittings installed on the high and low side hookups. If it has had 134a
put in it, then your system is probably working just fine. 134a runs at
higher pressures, and doesn't cool nearly as well as r12.






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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 20:19:38 +0000
From: "Jeff Friday" <DeLorean_Type304_at_dml_msn.com>
Subject: RE: New DMCH Performance Exhaust Inquiring feedback?

Jason,

I had the chance of completing the install of the new "Jet Hot" coated 
exhaust from DMC while visiting DMCF a few months back.

I just tightened up a few loose items so I can't take credit for the install 
but it looked very simple.  Basically, eliminates the stock crossover pipe 
(those were tough to get on and off if you don't have a lift) and also 
replaces the stock headers with very nice high flow models and the CATs are 
very nice.  The sound was fantastic and the finish is just breathtaking in 
person.  I'd say a nice low tone with a good grumble.  Having a good valve 
adjustment really helps the sound.  To me the exhaust hangs "just right" and 
again, looks fantastic.  THe exhaust I witnessed was installed on a Stage II 
engine so the entire setup was very clean.  Some say it looks like a spiders 
web under the car but as an artist I found the appearance most appealing.  
Stage II most likley affects the sound of the exhaust because of the changes 
to the valve train.  I straight-piped a stock DeLorean and it sounded great 
but with the DMC Exhaust I believe it really complimented the car.  
Accelleration with either engine setup will definitely be improved because 
of less exhaust restriction.  The car I straight-piped had a very noticeable 
boost in acceleration.  And I did drive one of the DMC exhausted cars while 
in Florida.  VERY NICE!!

The DMC Exhaust is a bit on the more expensive side when compared to a 
complete system on most cars on the road.  However, the DeLorean is unlike 
anything on the road and in my opinion deserving of somewhat pricey custom 
upgrades.  If you got the money...go for it, but don't let the money make 
the decision.  It's really a feature that will set your DeLorean apart from 
the average car at a cruise in.

Also, I believe the exhaust has a very nice warranty from the "Jet Hot" 
company who did the coating.

Just my two cents from experience.  When I'm in a position to buy another 
DeLorean to replace the one I had to sell I will buy a refurbed car from DMC 
with the Custom Exhaust or have it added to a nice car I might come across.

Jeff in NC



>>From: Jason McKee <tymchsr_at_dml_yahoo.com>
>>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>>To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: [DML] New DMCH Performance Exhaust Inquiring feedback?
>>Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 23:02:41 -0800 (PST)
>>
>>Hello group, Is there any body who has installed the
>>new performance exhaust from DMCH recently. I'm
>>concidering it, but its looks pricy, but very nice. 





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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 20:29:16 -0000
From: "dmcchaser" <dmcchaser_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Re: 911, engine running on 3 cylinders MORE INFO

  Are you certain that only three plugs are getting spark?  The 
reasons I ask are:  The car should be almost undriveable on only 3 
cylinders.  The car could not have passed its emissions test while 
missfiring that badly, the HCs would have been far too high.  It's 
very unusual to lose exactly half of the firing events in this way.
  That said, I don't doubt that your test is correct.  Let's take it 
a step further.  Pull the spark plugs out of the cylinders that 
aren't running and take a good look at the ends.  Are they clean and 
dry?  Or, are they wet with fuel?  Carbon fouled?
Now put your old plugs back in (to plug the holes) and take a known 
good spark plug and stick it into the end of one of the plug wires, 
lay the plug against a metal part of the engine, someplace secure, 
and start the car. (with all the other plug wires installed) You 
should see a nice spark jumping the plug gap.  If not we'll have to 
look elsewhere.
You might pick up a spark tester from your local auto parts store, 
which will make this whole process much easier.  They can be had for 
less than $20 and look like a spark plug with a big alligator clamp 
hooked to it.  There are several other designs also.

Matt Smith



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "odell_andy" <odell_andy_at_dml_y...> wrote:

>>
>> the distributor cap & spinning peg(?) are brand new, so are the 

leads.

>> plugs all test good. the white/slate wire is connected to the
>> distributor base. What would cause only the Left 3 plugs to fire?
>> distributor cap is on correctly. all parts are from delorean 

specialists.

>> any ideas? 
>> 
>> ps you would be amazed how well the engine runs on 3 cylinders. 

pretty

>> slow to accelerate from 0-10mph, then picks up well.(doesnt like
>> hills). i would prefer all 6 to work however. it has also just 

passed

>> its emmissions test in this state.
>> im not mistaken. to confirm i have pulled the 3 right hand leads off
>> the spark plugs with the engine running.(don't try yourself!) it 

makes

>> no difference to how the engine runs and sounds.
>> 
>> the new leads all test 3.3-3.5 ohms resistance. (also tested old 

set, 2.5)

>>









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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 15:42:45 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Start-up RPM's

 
 
In a message dated 11/15/2005 2:29:53 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
coreysmoo_at_dml_hotmail.com writes:

ve never  heard another DeLorean start up besides mine, so I'm not sure if 
this is  
normal.  Actually, I've never heard any other car start up like this,  so I'm 
fairly sure 
this is not normal.  Anyways, When I first turn  the key, the car starts up 
and shoots 
the RPM's up to around 3000 and  stays there for about 15 seconds.  Then it 
settles 
down to around  800.  The throttle does not move at all while this is 
happening.   Any 
thoughts?



>>>>>>

 
Corey,
 
No that is not right.  The car should start, then typically it will  cycle up 
and down for a few seconds (say from 600-1000 rpm) while the fuel  system is 
in warm-up mode, then it should settle down to around 700 rpm.  
 
Andy
 
Fargo, ND  
1982 DeLorean DMC12 VIN 11596



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:37:04 +0100
From: "Elvis Nocita" <elvisnocita_at_dml_gmx.de>
Subject: AW: Start-up RPM's

Corey,

I heared of several cars acting like this, but it is definitely not normal.
The idle speed ECU seems to have a problem. I'd like to get such an
ECU to see what the problem is. I do have the knowledge and equipment to
fix it. Do you drive your car over the winter ? This would be a great time
to take it apart.

let me know if you want me to ckeck it out

Elvis & 6548





Just a quick question...

I've never heard another DeLorean start up besides mine, so I'm not sure if
this is
normal.  Actually, I've never heard any other car start up like this, so I'm
fairly sure
this is not normal.  Anyways, When I first turn the key, the car starts up
and shoots
the RPM's up to around 3000 and stays there for about 15 seconds.  Then it
settles
down to around 800.  The throttle does not move at all while this is
happening.  Any
thoughts?

Also, I did fix the brake master cylinder problem.  I don't really feel like
revisiting the
event, but I'm sure everyone would get a laugh out of the story.  So just
know that the
problem is gone, and I have a new, never used, still in the box master
cylinder if
anyone needs one.  :) 

Corey
2423







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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 20:55:32 -0000
From: "Joe OBrien" <joeyoseppijoe_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: New DMCH Performance Exhaust Inquiring feedback?

I went to their website, but didn't find any info on the performance 
exhaust, havent for several months now.

Do you have a link, cause I can't find one on their site.


-Joe O'Brien










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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:50:53 -0600
From: "Videobob Moseley" <videobob_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: factory radio or aftermarket?

They did a lot of weird stuff on the 83's, if it was a KAPAC car you never 
know.
This may have been the latest upgrade of the Craig stereo available on the 
retail market, and since it was close to the original they put it in there, 
maybe because they were out of ASI radios,
or maybe a previous owner found that radio and put it in as a replacement or 
to make it look more original. Either way it is crap - pull it out and put 
in a decent CD/MP3 player!
Cassettes, and cassette adapter suck.
Your only other hope would be to run a RF modulator through the antenna and 
then you
could tap into it that way...but then you still have a low wattage old 
crackly radio.
I held on to my original for a long time, when I finally replaced it with a 
decent Sony
head unit (with 10 gig hard drive, MP3 player, etc) I have been a much 
happier guy.
Simply save your faceplate and radio and stuff it in the garage, and buy a 
pre-cut
plate from DMCH for a DIN radio and install it.

You can also get a harness adapter that will allow you to simply plug into 
the harness
with out doing ANY cutting to  your harness what so ever.
I sell them on my site - http://www.dfwdmc.com
You will want to run new speaker wires to the NEW speakers you will want to 
install
(at toss thos paper Craig speakers to the curb)!

Just one man's opinion.
- VB



>>From: "Dan" <djdanwilson_at_dml_yahoo.com>
>>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>>To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: [DML] factory radio or aftermarket?
>>Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 08:53:49 -0000
>>
>>I'm trying to figure out if my stereo is factory installed, a warranty
>>replacement, or aftermarket.
>>
>>My car is an '83, VIN 16192. In theory it should have come from the
>>factory with an ASI, but it has a Craig with an integrated clock on
>>the cassette door. There is no clock on the center console forward of
>>the shifter.
>>





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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:05:14 -0000
From: "coreysmoo" <coreysmoo_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Start-up RPM's

Elvis-
That would be great.  E-mail me off list to potentially work this out.

Corey
2423
coreysmoo(AT)hotmail.com

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Elvis Nocita" <elvisnocita_at_dml_g...> wrote:

>>
>> Corey,
>> 
>> I heared of several cars acting like this, but it is definitely not normal.
>> The idle speed ECU seems to have a problem. I'd like to get such an
>> ECU to see what the problem is. I do have the knowledge and equipment to
>> fix it. Do you drive your car over the winter ? This would be a great time
>> to take it apart.
>> 
>> let me know if you want me to ckeck it out
>> 
>> Elvis & 6548
>> 
>> 
>> Just a quick question...
>> 
>> I've never heard another DeLorean start up besides mine, so I'm not sure if
>> this is
>> normal.  Actually, I've never heard any other car start up like this, so I'm
>> fairly sure
>> this is not normal.  Anyways, When I first turn the key, the car starts up
>> and shoots
>> the RPM's up to around 3000 and stays there for about 15 seconds.  





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