Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:25 AM
Subject: [DML] Digest Number 3187

There are 4 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Brush with Death
From: "Jake Kamphoefner" <>

2. Re: BAE Turbo Documentation
From: Markus Knöpfle <>

3. Re: top speed
From: Martin Gutkowski - DMC Ltd <>

4. Re: Hello from new member!
From: "John Spangler" <>

Message: 1
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 23:14:51 -0500
From: "Jake Kamphoefner" <>
Subject: Re: Brush with Death

Did you guys use locktite on the nut when reinstalling?  I recently had my rear end apart to fix the ol' DeLorean clunk syndrome and I put locktite on it for reassembly with no issues so far (about 400 miles or so).

I also torqued the bejesus out of the thing :-)

Jake Kamphoefner

----- Original Message -----
From: "Erik Geerdink" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] Brush with Death

> I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one that this has happend too.  I 
> replaced my frame last spring.  WHen I went to drive the car I noticed the 
> rear end swayed a bit.  I know I torqued EVERYTHING down to spec as I made 
> a check list.  I drove it like this for about 50 city miles as I worked 
> other things out.  I figured i needed an alignment.  I went to do some 
> brake adjusting in the rear and notice my rear drivers wheel was loose on 
> the hub!  I retorqued it down and now my handling is perfect.
>  erik
> Woody <> wrote:
>  Replying to the "Top Speed" took me back to a near disaster experience
> I had a couple weeks ago and the lesson learned.
> My present daily driver Delorean is a car I purchased on e-bay 2 years
> ago. The car had not been driven in 10 years so I went thru all of the
> fuel and fluid systems. As part of the process of rebuilding the rear
> brakes I removed the rotors and hubs. It took my impact wrench to
> remove the nut that holds the hubs on the axles. During reassembly, I
> retorqued the hub/axle nut to spec.
> For several months I have felt like the car has not been handling as
> well as my previous D, and after checking the wheels for axle movement,
> discovered some play in the front axle. I replaced the bearings in
> this wheel but still had the feeling of oversteer. I suspected that
> the original shocks were the culprit, but I still planned to pull all
> of the wheels again to double-check the axles.
> Before I "got around" to a second check of the wheels, I experience a
> drive train failure while going about 15 mph. When I'd engage the
> clutch, there was grinding sound and no movement forward in reverse.
> At my shop, I lifted the rear of the car expecting to find a clutch or
> transmission problem. Instead, I discovered an axle nut that was so
> loose that the wheel was about to fall off of the car! The splines on
> the hub were completely worn away; fortunately, the axle is made of a
> harder steel and the splines were still intact on the axle.
> The lessons learned or relearned:
> 1. It's very important to recheck torques after removing/replacing
> critical components.
> 2. When something doesn't seem right on the car, immediately find and
> correct the problem before driving the car again, particularly if it
> may be related to a drive, suspension or fuel system. This failure
> cost me an $80 hub, but it could have cost me my life (see 120 mph post
> earlier today). Same thing applies to fuel systems (A local mechanic
> was not as lucky when received severe burns as a result of a fire
> caused by fuel leaking from a banjo fitting on the fuel distributor of
> a Delorean.)


Message: 2
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:51:39 +0200
From: Markus Knöpfle <>
Subject: Re: BAE Turbo Documentation

Many thanks for all your response!!!

Bruce: You're right, especially in the lower RPM the ignition is too early. Guess I spend the next weekend on the turbo.

Roy: My VIN is 01460


*Gesendet:* 03.04.06 18:12:41
*Betreff:* Re: [DML] BAE Turbo Documentation

When you say it's not working I'd take that to mean you're lacking power or 
not getting any boost. It's been discussed here a zillion times but the 
older turbos like the Rajay used in the BAE kits are susceptible to oil 
coking in the bearing area. Newer turbos use water cooling and even space 
age ceramic bearings but the Rajay floated the center shaft in oil routed 
though the turbo center section from the engine. If the oil was too hot at 
shut down it can turn to coke and block the oil passages preventing further 
lubrication. That's why it's recommended to allow the engine to idle for a 
few minutes before shutting down, especially after running hard. My guess 
from your limited description would be the turbo is no longer spinning and 
needs a rebuild. The car probably lacks power because the mechanical advance 
in the ignition distributor has been modified to limit advance and the turbo 
isn't providing any boost. The advance modification was done to prevent 
pre-ignition, an unfortunate by-product of turbocharging. There are several 
places around the country that can rebuild turbos. Turbonetics in California 
is one good source and I believe they now own the Rajay name. If you look 
for local rebuilders look for diesel repair shops. Almost every large diesel 
engine used in trucks and motorhomes is turbocharged and most will rebuild 

Bruce Benson


> Hi Folks,
> I just bought a '81 DeLorean with the BAE Turbo Kit installed.
> Unfortunally it seems like its not working.
> Does anybody have the Dokumentation (Installation Instruction, Drawings) 
> of the BAE Turbo Kit and can tell we what parts i need to remove it and 
> check the engine without turbo?
> TY
> Markus Knoepfle
> 156 Sea Street
> Virginia Beach, VA 23451


Message: 3
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 09:46:36 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski - DMC Ltd <>
Subject: Re: top speed

andy wrote:

> I don't recall the exact speed they listed but I think it 
>was in the 150's. 
No way..... the Alpine GTA V6 Turbo has a top speed of 156 which it 
achieves in part thanks to a taller 4th and 5th (and 200+hp), and a more 
streamlined body, lighter weight.... etc

I think R&T listed 109, but I'm sure someone will confirm for sure.



Message: 4
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:45:28 -0000
From: "John Spangler" <>
Subject: Re: Hello from new member!

Congrats on new D ownership!  I'd like to suggest the Arizona DeLorean
Club as we've got a few members in the Vegas area.  In
fact several of us just had a meeting there this past weekend.  We're
also in the Yahoo groups and we have a web chat every Wednesday night.

Sounds like you've got a great car!  Is it a 5-speed/Auto Gray/Black


--- In, "delorean_lady" <delorean_lady_at_dml_...> wrote:
> Just saying hello from Las Vegas!
> Are there any other DeLorean owners in Nevada in this group?
> I've posted some photos of my DeLorean in the group's photos section.


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